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And"},{"speaker":"Ace Von Johnson","startTime":4645.83,"endTime":4650.15,"body":"I appreciate you always sticking"},{"speaker":"Ace Von Johnson","startTime":4645.83,"endTime":4650.15,"body":"up for me and getting to talk"},{"speaker":"Ace Von Johnson","startTime":4650.15,"endTime":4651.62,"body":"with us always a treat. So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4652.19,"endTime":4654.74,"body":"once again, the new"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4652.19,"endTime":4654.74,"body":"la guns album Black Diamonds"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4654.74,"endTime":4658.04,"body":"drops on April 14, or may"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4654.74,"endTime":4658.04,"body":"already be out depending on when"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4658.04,"endTime":4660.74,"body":"you're listening to this. 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