Jason DeVore (Authority Zero)

Jason DeVore is a singer, songwriter and artist. He is the frontman for the Arizona punk rock band Authority Zero, and also has a solo music career. His latest album ‘Til The Voices Goes Out drops on June 7th. We discuss the new album, the Arizona music scene, purpose in music, covering Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah”, Authority Zero lineup changes and more!

00:00 - Intro
00:13 - Growing Up in Mesa, Arizona
04:15 - Arizona Music Scene
09:53 - New Solo Song "Turn It Off"
17:45 - Producers
19:25 - Cover Art for Single & Music Video
22:05 - New Album & Other Songs
27:10 - Music Industry 
28:05 - Performing Live
32:13 - Celtic & Spanish Influences
33:58 - Doing Things to the Extreme
36:10 - Cover of "Hallelujah"
39:05 - New Album,  Singles & Courage Campaign
40:48 - Purpose in Life
42:47 - Authority Zero Lineup Changes
49:10 - Memorable Shows & Upcoming Shows
54:40 - Outro

Jason DeVore website:
https://jasondevore.com/

Authority Zero website:
https://authorityzero.com/

Chuck Shute linktree:
https://linktr.ee/chuck_shute

Transcript

Jason DeVore: 0:00

I have that running around and I was like, they're like, did you make the podcast? I was like, calling right now.

Chuck Shute: 0:19

works. I should have just came to your house. I'm in Scottsdale, you're in Mesa, right?

Jason DeVore: 0:23

Oh, yeah. I'm Tempe now. Yeah, but yeah. safezone Oh, okay.

Chuck Shute: 0:26

You're even close to them. I'm like South Scottsdale. Tempe is like I could probably throw a rock and hit you.

Jason DeVore: 0:32

Oh, yeah. I'm South Tempe. So we're right. We're neighbors. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 0:36

Talk about that about Arizona. Like, you grew up mostly in Mesa, right?

Jason DeVore: 0:42

Yeah, yeah, me and my buddies. With the band authorities era. We grew up in Mesa. My dad lived out there. I moved in with him when I was about 15. But I was visiting him for the summers a lot when I was a younger kid. And that's how I made friends with these guys. And then we all joined up and started a band together and just kind of got weird in the streets of Mesa, Arizona for years and years. Wait,

Chuck Shute: 1:03

so because were you in Wyoming? And then you had to come here for the summers?

Jason DeVore: 1:08

Yeah. So my parents divorced. I was born here and Mesa when I was one until I was one years old, and my parents divorced. My mom moved me to Wyoming. My stepdad worked out there and lived out there. So we lived out there in my early years. And my dad stayed here in Mesa. So I'd come and visit him in the summer times to do visitation rights kind of thing.

Chuck Shute: 1:27

Oh, that should have been back. You should have went to the summer in Wyoming. That would have been way better.

Jason DeVore: 1:31

I agree. Yeah. Now that I think about it, looking back, it makes complete sense.

Chuck Shute: 1:35

Yeah, Wyoming's beautiful, like, Oh, my God, there's so much I appreciate because I'm from Washington State. And I moved here for the sunshine. But then like, I took my girlfriend, she's from here, we went to Washington, and she was just like, amazed at the big tall trees and all this stuff that I just took for granted growing up there.

Jason DeVore: 1:53

I did the same thing, man. When I was a kid, it's like, I mean, I lived in the countryside too, like I lived like in the parts of Wyoming, like one of the South mid parts of Wyoming. But there was a time when I lived in the midsection, a place called Star Valley, which is just gorgeous. It's when he started getting a little more northern toward Jackson Hole. And it's beautiful. But it was like, you know, it was like a house per mile. There's the road I lived on. It was like the border of Idaho and Wyoming. So I'd ride dirt bikes out there all the time. And it was it was beautiful. But again, as a kid, I was like, give me the hell out of here. I want to go to the city and skate skateboard as much as I can. There's no concrete around here. This kind of sucks. But looking back, it's gorgeous. You know, it's a beautiful, beautiful landscape. And now being older, I'd love to go back and visit more. Appreciate it.

Chuck Shute: 2:38

Yeah, did you see a lot of nature? Because I think that's another thing you can sometimes take for granted is like just being able to see like deer and Buffalo and all that stuff.

Jason DeVore: 2:47

Oh, all the time. And there was like a herd of elk who would come down every season like right by the side of the highway that you passed by on the way to school every day. So you saw like all sorts of nature man like wildlife craziness. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 2:58

You ever see the Hava Llinas here in Arizona, because it's so funny, like, my parents live up north. And so my family would come and visit them and they'd stay with my parents like Cave Creek and they'd see how Abilene is all the time. I've lived here for like 15 years. I just saw my first Halina in the wild, like a few years ago. Yeah,

Jason DeVore: 3:16

we a funny story about a Halloween and my only story about a hobbit Lena here in Arizona was the band and I were actually up north in northern Scottsdale, recording it, Ryan Green's house. And it was pretty much in the, you know, in the desert areas, you know, kind of like the newer rebuild places or whatever. But we were in there and my guitars went to go outside and there was a pack of leaders right there. They attacked him toward the doors slammed the door. Nothing happened. But it was like our one Catalina experience and interaction.

Chuck Shute: 3:49

Yeah, that's crazy. Because they run in packs. Like I remember, I used to do Uber and I was like, driving down this dark alleyway. And that was the first time I saw him in the wild. And it was like, not only one came out, but an entire herd and they had the little babies and they just they went right in front of our car was there right there. I was like, wow, this is so cool.

Jason DeVore: 4:06

Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Man. They come in come in tribes.

Chuck Shute: 4:10

Yeah, it's amazing. So growing up in Arizona, when you when you moved here, and then you started the band. Tell me about the music scene back then. Because I think that, you know, I'm always fascinated by music scenes. I grew up in Seattle and the 90 So obviously, we had a music scene there. But I had its own music scene. And they were it was like, they were kind of saying it was going to be the next Seattle right.

Jason DeVore: 4:32

I think maybe Yeah, I mean, my experience I was super young. You know what I mean? When I was coming up in the scene, and we didn't really have a we didn't really have a connection too awful much in the beginning with the with the music scene. We didn't have a certain sound really, we had young going on and we really fit in anywhere. Which was cool, but it just didn't you know, we weren't the most welcomed all the time. You know, it was like kind of people confused by us. So, but it did slowly. Grover time that I saw, at least with a scene that we started seemingly building together with bands, we were all trying to work together with to help each other, you know, get to the next level of things. So in that regard, a couple years into it, it was really cool man really like a, like a big group of people that were doing really well. And they were their music was getting better and better. We were all pretty much like just learning how to play our instruments and sing and perform and do what we all were trying to figure out what we're doing as bands. And that's going for every band, we were playing with the same like so. It was cool being there and being a support group for each other. So yeah, so it's a cool thing. Like people were trying to build each other up. And they were really supportive of one another, you know, and that was kind of how it was, I mean, at least in the punk rock, little scene we had going on.

Chuck Shute: 5:43

So did you so then, obviously, later, I know. I'm sure that you're friends now with Roger Klein. But back when he was in the refreshments, did you come across them? Or the Gin Blossoms at all back then? Or was that was that a little bit before your time?

Jason DeVore: 5:56

That was before our time? Yeah, we were just a bunch of kids. And they'd already been like on the map and doing their thing and it was a whole different scene there. But now we're friends like you say yeah, as time has grown on I've done some stuff with him down to Rocky Point is circus Mexico because of any doubt down there. And quite a few times with them and I've gotten to get in and gotten really pretty close to him and as his wife. So it's it's been a cool relationship building and kind of a turn of events from the early years to like now, kind of playing in the same stages, you know?

Chuck Shute: 6:26

Yeah, that's quite senior a couple of I think, did you do the wind because the black moods they also it's another local Arizona band for people who don't know one of my favorites and they do a similar thing that Roger Klein does the circus Mexican or they did and I forget the name of it. I don't think they did it last year, but I think I saw you one time down in Rocky Point on their little festival.

Jason DeVore: 6:47

Yeah, I'm trying to think with that little bit too, because I mean, most most events I've done have been with Roger Klein and the peacemakers for circus or what I just did here in February was the January January also do Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 7:00

maybe. Maybe that may have been confusing because I've seen the January gym. I've never been for the circus MexicanUS but everyone says that one is like it's like January jam on steroids.

Jason DeVore: 7:09

Oh, big time and the January jam is like a nice warm up to get people prepped for the summertime. Big event and it's it's crazy. It's like the stage is massive out there on the beach and obviously all over rocky point but there's one massive stage in particular backed by Bandidos that he sets up and it's just epic.

Chuck Shute: 7:26

Really, okay, yeah. Then I need to I need to just pull the trigger and do that one of these years. And how's the weather in June because every time I've gone to Rocky Point, it's just been amazing. It's been so nice. It

Jason DeVore: 7:37

is down there in June, man. It's like it's it's warm, obviously, you know, but I mean, the ocean breeze gives it a nice, cool tinge. And it's pretty awesome. It's pretty beautiful time of year to go down there. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 7:48

that's everything's cleared up with the border and stuff because we were gonna go girlfriend's birthday this year. And, and it was like our big 40th birthday. And then it was like, Oh, the borders closed. You can't go to Mexico was the weirdest thing.

Jason DeVore: 8:02

Yeah, it was weird, dude, it was because that's when January jam was supposed to happen. Right? It got put off, it got postponed or whatever. And then it literally opened I think like a week or two before they decided to go ahead and go forward with the Festival in February instead. So you're like you know, people are kind of uneasy to even go down there because they don't know if they get back and have to take the roundabout way and all this stuff. So they didn't know how, how it would go as far as attendance even. But it turned out great. It was it was it was cool. I'm glad it opened that up because was a lot of fun.

Chuck Shute: 8:32

Yeah, absolutely. i We ended up going to Cabo. And I actually like Rocky Point. But for people who don't know, rocky point is it's what like four hours from Arizona. And it's just it's so amazing. Like, it's such an easy drive. And everything is so close and the people are so friendly and I love it. It's so such a great place.

Jason DeVore: 8:50

Oh, me too. Yeah, it's been I've been going there since I was a kid like probably 1718 years old with it with the with the band again, you know, because for one you can drink down there because you're illegal to do whatever really you want you feel like at least and so we've been going there for years and so it's it's always been close to my heart of F one place to go. Yeah, I

Chuck Shute: 9:07

was listening to your interview on Crystal makes podcasts and and you guys talked about you know, one of your biggest songs One more minute is written on the beach from in Rocky Point, right?

Jason DeVore: 9:17

Yeah, specifically that song is about those trips down there. Not wanting to come back to your shitty job and you know back then especially you were a kid you had not the coolest job. So you couldn't we just didn't want to leave. He's wanted to stay for one more minute and soak it in and just sit back one more Pacific go beer and hang with your buddies. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 9:36

I heard you say that. There's there's a karaoke version of that song. Is there a karaoke versions of any of your other songs too?

Jason DeVore: 9:42

I don't think so. I think just one more minute. Yeah, I think that's the one that made the made the cut.

Unknown: 9:47

Really? Okay.

Jason DeVore: 9:49

It's not even the right words, but it's funny. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 9:52

Well, I hope there's a karaoke version of your new song. This is the best song I think you've ever written. I think it's the best song I've heard. In 2024, I think I blew me away when I heard this, like, wow, this is like a song that you'd hear in like a movie. You know, at the epilogue, I don't know what you would call it. But like at the end of a movie, like, you know, when the guys like going to chase the girl or something like, like, it's just such a powerful epic song. How did tell me about writing the songs called? Turn it off? Yeah,

Jason DeVore: 10:22

that means a lot man for one. And that's cool. You say that about cinematic stuff because when I, as I've worked on this record, specifically, I talked to Bob Hogue, who works mixes everything lined blanket studios out here in Tempe, or Mesa, I'm sorry, Mesa. And I told him my vision for this record was to not just do the singer songwriter thing, you know, there's a lot of that going on. And I feel like it's been done a lot, I wanted to do something a little more expansive, and creative, I guess. And full. And the biggest word I used with him was cinematic, is that I want to make this record cinematic. It's like I've done the acoustic records, I've done the low quality stuff like now that we have the opportunity working with double helix records, to really make the record that I've always wanted to try and put together, let's just make it massive, you know, it's like, I'm just one dude. But I mean, we can, you know, bring in the right instrumentation, the right musicians, the right, the right sound, and the world's kind of our oyster. So we did that, and got a lot of the greatest musicians here locally that I played with three, throughout the years, that different shows and different bands, and have been performing this record rather than myself, just playing all the instruments, like I've done in the past to kind of get those instruments in there, at least, but not well, you know, so, we did that. And we just went for these really big sounds. And so with that record, the song, the song, in general, turn it off, is really just about the noise in your head, you know, it's like going through a lot the last couple of years with, you know, those are the pandemic again, keep bringing that up. It's like that type of music, touring, not being able to tour just the politics, the propaganda, the mix of everything that people people's differences, like back and forth throughout all of that. All just mushed up in your head, like what's right, what's wrong? Where do I, you know, not piss somebody off? Where do I say what I need to say without, you know, not saying it wholeheartedly. All these things, you know, like, just combine, in all the noise in the static, it's just about turning off all that noise and finding some kind of peace and serenity, and some calm. So that's really what the song is about. And I mean, that's, I mentioned it before, in an interview that I don't even know where it came from. It's one of those songs I sat down is sort of writing, you know, there was no rhyme or reason I just started writing and it you can kind of tell in the lyrical content that it's not like a pattern, love writing process. It's really like, random thoughts that happen to work together of a stream of unconsciousness, I guess.

Chuck Shute: 12:44

Wow. Okay. So the lyrically, it's about turning all that noise off. So have you found a way to do that? Or is it just like writing the song, the cathartic thing that you did to turn it off in your head?

Jason DeVore: 12:56

Yeah, it's the cathartic thing I did, just to turn it off in my head. I mean, I found, you know, moments of peace from those times, you know, and the chaos of what was, of course, again, through music, and again, releasing a lot of these thoughts and a lot of these ideas and putting them to paper. And yeah, it's never, you know, ever changing process, you know, there's always stuff going on. So you're always cautious, constantly thinking and overthinking. And under thinking and thinking you didn't think about something that you might have missed, like your interview with the podcast a half an hour ago, or, you know, the chaos, the chaos of the world and of your own mind is always going to be there. But it's it's fun to write about, you know, try and get some of it out on paper and tape.

Chuck Shute: 13:37

Yeah, well, I think it's cool that you can share that because I can't write music. I suck but listening to it. I'm like, wow, this is like, it put me in a better mood last night, I listened to the song I don't know. 30 times since I downloaded it last night. It's so good. It's so catchy. Talk about how you musically put it all together? Because I always think like, why don't they make more songs like this is this really hard to write because I think sonically and musically it's just it's so brilliant how you've put these pieces together. I don't know how to describe it, without having people listen, but just the hook of it. It's so catchy in the way you've got little things here and there, that doing this and doing that. I mean, it just I don't know how to describe it. But it's, it's really good. It's what I'm trying to say.

Jason DeVore: 14:20

I appreciate that. Thank you very much, man. Honestly, the process but this song out of the gate was just me and acoustic guitar, which is how this whole album started. And it was one of those songs that almost didn't make the record because like this might be a song for my band, actually. Which is a kind of a new thing. I've kind of come to terms with it. Some of the solo stuff used to be just like oh, that definitely doesn't make sense with my group. So I'm gonna put this on a solo record. It's more of a singer songwriter kind of pretty song of sorts. But as time goes on, and and, you know, we're playing a lot more with the band again and touring a lot more. I'm just writing songs for just songs sake, you know in the coming out summer coming out as rock star Some are coming out as reggae songs, someone coming out the pretty gospel type sounding songs. And this one, again, was just an acoustic song. I was like, No, it's got some, it's got something there, I got a chorus for it, you know. And I played it for my friend Kristen Taylor at underdog studios. And she's like, dude, like, I think this is like, my favorite song that you should put on this record. I like really, you think there's something to this thing? And she's like, dude, absolutely. It's like, this could be the first song on the album, maybe your first single. And I was like, I don't see it. Because at the time, I didn't see it, it was like really bare bones. And I was like, it's cool and all but you need like a full rock band to pull this thing off, which is, you know, something I don't have at the time for the solo thing. So a lot of that went to play. But as it grew, developed, I started seeing that picture as well. And we just brought in my my bass, my bass player from authority, Mike Sparrow, and he threw out an a baseline to and I was like, well, now we need drums. You know, I call my friends show him like show you 1000 drums on this album. And that meant throwing drums on almost the entire album because of you just we're having the one song, in my opinion. So we started getting more creative and things just kind of really started snowballing and experimenting more and more. And then before you know, you're like adding bells, you're adding, here's that mariachi horn section, you know, it's like, things just grew, it became its own little there's a little baby was born and it went through life. And it became this adult with stories to tell.

Chuck Shute: 16:16

That's amazing. Because it does it's not. It's interesting to hear the demo and then hear the difference because it does sound it almost it's complex, but simple, like because it's so melodic. But there's so many things, little things going on that just add to the hook and the feel of the song make it catchy. And yeah, I think it's brilliant. So you've added these musicians helped you out and shaped it into what it is now?

Jason DeVore: 16:40

They did? Yeah, I mean, honestly, man, it's like, there's so much talent that was brought into this album. And I mean, a lot of the credit goes to them. I mean, I wrote the songs, but the spice that was added to it like the seasoning like any kind of soup, you make the ingredients, I guess it just added so much flavor to it and really brought everything more to life than it originally was. And the cool thing I think about the songs is that they're still, in my opinion, good songs, just acoustic, you know, so that's why I love writing just acoustic first even with the band, alright, acoustic songs, and it will be like let's make this into a punk song now, or elevate it, whatever we want to do. But that we always know that if you can play a song by itself acoustic and sing, then you know you got something good. You have to have all those elements, then you don't need to look back at what you did. We're lucky to have I think decent songs and then we just elevated them with a lot of this the additional instrumentation and minds so

Chuck Shute: 17:34

Bob helps co produce it and then but on that single you actually had Tom Lord who's worked with Blink 182 Weezer follow up but boy in the Rolling Stone. So how did you get him?

Jason DeVore: 17:47

There? Yeah, there's, there's some talent on this record man for from not just myself and whatever. But it's, they just reached out the label double helix was like, we really want to reach out to a couple of big producers. And for the first single, we wanted to get one of the best we can to introduce the album to the world. And they tracked down download algae, and they shot him an email, propose the idea. And everything's worked out. And so we did the first song with him. And I think we did a good job with picking that guy for the first song. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 18:16

so you just asked him hey, can you do this one song? Is he is he charged like a big fee? Or is it more like Hey, he's gonna help out like an indie more independent artist? No, he's not charging you the same as the Rolling Stones price I'm assuming?

Jason DeVore: 18:30

Oh, absolutely not no, he knows I'm an independent artists, he knows that. It's just the one song he knows also his value, you know, of course, so he knows that. It's going to help people turn their heads to and pay attention a little more. That means like people, listeners in general specifically radio stations on top of that, you know, whoever might want to play it on a grander scale. So with that, yeah, there's a there's a price there's a price tag on it, of course, but it's I'm imagining nothing like what the Rolling Stones would be paying this guy.

Chuck Shute: 18:57

That's good. I think that's cool. When when people do what does that like hit the line from? I think it's one of the Kevin Smith movies where it's like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon and they're talking about how like you do the art picture and then you do the blockbuster movie like you got to mix it up are similar for music right?

Jason DeVore: 19:15

Yeah, exactly. It's nice combo man you do like this this level here. You just only here to kind of make it all interweave. Yeah, well

Chuck Shute: 19:21

explain the cover art for the single because you're in like the Joker makeup. So I thought like oh, is this are you trying to get on to the Joker sat in the new Joker movie soundtrack or is it just a coincidence?

Jason DeVore: 19:33

What's funny dude is that I didn't know that was coming out until after we did this whole thing. Just kind of a bummer because I would have acted on that a lot faster. And that been the case. I told the label to I was like, Man, I wish the news was coming out because then we could have pushed this song to the movie and it would have been a whole thing. But no, I was actually watching. I was trying to come up with concepts for the video. Just on the road and I came across the original what's it called? The Original reel for like the promotional reel for the first Joker. And then I was just watching it on YouTube. And I was like, Man, I can like totally see my song in the background of this like seeing the cement cinematic once again, kind of atmosphere. And I did a little makeshift video my own and my little program I have on my phone of my son in the background of that exact clip is the one where he's walking down the hallway with his back to you know, he just lost his shit basically. And he's like, gets on the elevator and it turns around like maniacally insane, but also with peace. And all these things, you know, and I was like, this makes it just fit. And then it goes to the dancing scene down the stairs. And I'm like, This is awesome. Like, I need to send this to label real quick see what they think. Because this could be really something cool. And they started to like, Oh, that's a different thing completely. Then we were having in our heads. I'm like me too. But check it out. Let's see what we can do. And so it all came together like that, that was pretty much it. And then we reached out to Illmatic Eric with Illmatic videos, and he'd shot in some of the stuff on the label before and he was willing to do us a great deal for a few videos for these first few singles. And he flew out from Las Vegas, and we just put the script together and almost follow the initial the original Joker was walking Phoenix, video, storyline wise, front to back as best we could, you know, three and a half minute section. You know, so we just did recreations of that, obviously, it was a lot of fun, I got to you know, I've always enjoyed acting and pretending to act or trying to get into acting, I guess, performing I guess that the at the most and just entertaining. And so it was really a chance to break out of just being the guy singing the song. And here's the video camera. It's like, let's get weird with it. Let's get crazy, intense act pain, suffering happiness, all that entwined in a video and try to make it shine through with the song as the background meat of it. So I think we did a great job of doing that. I'm excited the way it came. That's cool.

Chuck Shute: 21:56

I haven't seen I don't think I've seen the video because I don't I mean, I don't think it was in the promotional thing I shouldn't I should ask for that. Because I don't know if there's an advanced copy that by digging advanced copy of the rest of the album. And so let's do that today. And I was like, oh yeah, this is so because I wanted to hear more this thing. I was like, I need to hear more. This is amazing. So you really got a great variety on this album. It's not because some of your other solo stuff is more just singer songwriter you and acoustic guitar stuff, right. But this is more, there's a lot more variety. I feel like there

Jason DeVore: 22:25

is it really is it's one of those records where I didn't know if it even made sense. When I was recording it. I was like, I don't even know if this is gonna make sense as a full record. And like it might just be like, put singles out here and again. And interestingly enough, after the production of it, the mastering of it all. Just a message or ID behind idea behind it. It all in the end, I listen to it on the test press vinyl. And I'm like this sounds like a record. It sounds like an interesting record. Absolutely. See,

Chuck Shute: 22:51

that's what I think I've used this example a million times on my podcast when I talked about this but you know, Guns and Roses Appetite for Destruction, such a great album, but I really liked the user illusion stuff. And it's all over the place. I mean, but it's really, to me, I liked the journey. I liked the variety. I liked that there's different stuff. I think that makes it interesting.

Jason DeVore: 23:10

Absolutely. Same here, man. And, you know, if anyone's heard our band authority, zero, you know, we're not one to stick to one style of music, it just gets boring as a band for one, you know, just playing the same song over and over again. Not for me, you know, it's like I just I like variety. I like too much music out in the world, especially throughout the years of coming up in, in my group with the eclectic mix of it, and just playing and touring with so many other bands and getting new influences. It's it's just like it just comes out the way it comes out. And I'm really, I hope people enjoy that as well because I do enjoy the journey on record myself as well as not stagnant. It keeps you on your toes and keeps you excited.

Chuck Shute: 23:47

Absolutely. Because it's not only different styles of music, it's different moods, you know, like you have the one song is it called? Is it just Wafu wha that's like such an upbeat, catchy fun song. And then the last song on the record beamer is a very slow acoustic, it's got the strings, it seems very sad.

Jason DeVore: 24:06

It is it's about Yeah, it's very dynamic. In that regard. When you say it's it takes you on an emotional rollercoaster for sure. This whole record does. Yeah, wife who is I'm not sure if I'm allowed to swear, but we're all effed up is which? Yeah, we're all fucked up as the actual title of the album, like, Yeah, you don't need to put all that like, well, it was kind of a fun title. And let people like just listen to it and see what it's all about. And it was, it was the one of the really standout pandemic songs I wrote. And lyrically, it's very clear, it's like, we're all fucked up, but we're leaning on each other. We're all corrupt sisters and brothers, you know, and it's like, there's a lot going on and you know, he's got to make it to the finish line kind of thing. And then like you say, going all the way to beamer which was, interestingly enough, my my mother in law's dog died in his name was Beamer. And she was super, super sad. She was crying. She was on FaceTime with me, my wife, and I was like so you can rise Tell me about it right Jason. I'm like, no other runs on right now about him. I ran literally into this office. She was still in FaceTime, I wrote the song and like in probably 10 minutes, came back out with my acoustic guitar I played for, and obviously waterworks, even more came, you know, it was a very honest, very emotional song just about life and death and about, you know, see on the other side, whatever that may be for whoever. And it just was a, you know, shine on in your, you know, in your life and your death and in your memory.

Chuck Shute: 25:28

Yeah, wow, that's what's that?

Jason DeVore: 25:32

I got a weird brain. It's kind of all. Like I say, it's kind of all over the place. But the thoughts like that all the time with the motions and things.

Chuck Shute: 25:38

No, I mean, I think that it's like you said, it's like the other song, we're all fucked up. I mean, we are all all fucked up just to different, different levels. I guess some people are more fucked up than others, for sure. But I think a little bit, especially if you can channel it, through the music is, I think that's so amazing. What a great gift that you have.

Jason DeVore: 25:54

Thank you. I appreciate that very much.

Chuck Shute: 25:57

I really enjoyed the record, especially that first single is so amazed. I think that should definitely, it seems so radio friendly. And I think there's a few singles that could be on this record, but it's just so hard to get music, does that even matter even care about that music on the radio anymore? Or is it more about getting on the playlists?

Jason DeVore: 26:14

I don't even know man, I just want people to enjoy it, honestly. Because I mean, I've, you know, we've we've done the radio thing a lot in the past with the band, like, you know, early days, I don't know how I know, it's still a relevant thing, you know, and I've got friends who work in radio, and I'm gonna reach out to them and see if they'll play it. And hopefully they will. And hope it catches on, you know, because, of course, that's going to reach more people in a broader span. And it's one of those constants, you know, with, with playlists, your, you know, you pick and choose what's coming up, what's not kind of thing with radio, it's constantly on in your car, so it doesn't hurt to have it out there. Obviously. It's nothing I chase anymore. You know, it's one of those things in the early days, like, oh, we gotta get on the radio. Whoo. You know, at the same time, you're fighting against being on the radio, because you were in a punk band in the early days. So it's like this inner turmoil thing you're going through? And you're like, we don't want to be on it. Right? Yeah. They'll do otherwise is like, cool shit. I think I've gotten caught up with that before. And I'm like, Whatever, dude, you know, you get the chance to have your song played on the radio you've probably taken. So yeah,

Chuck Shute: 27:09

because too, it's like, it's not I mean, you want to you want to make music for a living, you don't because there's some a lot of your band members from authority zero. They had to go get real jobs, because this didn't pay as much. And they had mortgages and families and things right?

Jason DeVore: 27:22

Oh, yeah, this this, this, this music industry is that every day is a hustle, dude. Honestly, it's like, when I'm home from playing tours with authority zero, I'm booking 15 acoustic solo shows over the weekend to gear up to go on another tour, we may or may not make money, but I need to pay my bills. So it's like, that's my job is to be a musician, and artists, whatever we want to call it. And it's not easy. It's like you know, whatever the broader audience you can get to, I think is, you know, the better because you can have more people listening to music, come to your shows, buying your T shirts, all of it. Gonna help sell

Chuck Shute: 27:54

the merch stuff helps. And then you're doing and you do like a lot of solo shows I noticed. Now, would you do some of these songs? Obviously, you're going to do some with just you and the acoustic guitar. But would you ever perform solo with a full band? Or have you done

Jason DeVore: 28:08

that? Yeah, no, I've done three piece stuff before. But I've not done the full band thing. But with this new record, I've already given some thought until I want to put a full band together. Absolutely. I think it needs to be represented the way it sounds on the record, at least for bigger shows, like trying to, like perform this on bigger shows or events even or whatever you want to say. Keep on doing them acoustic Of course, you know, because I'd love doing that. But I would love to present this album to people in the live production way that is on the album as best as I can. And let them feel that live rather than just on the record in their cars or house or whatever, you know. So that is something in the works, that we'll be putting together here in the coming days.

Chuck Shute: 28:47

Oh, that's cool. Okay, I'll definitely have to look for that. What is the best way to find tour dates for you? Because I noticed like on your website, I don't think it had I know you posted stuff on your Instagram story. But if I wanted to look at all your upcoming tour dates, it's not on the website, is it? Not

Jason DeVore: 29:01

yet? No, I'm actually redeveloping my website, Jason devore.com. So that will be the place to go. But we're getting my bands in town relinked up with that there's been some old bands in town. Information, I'm trying to gather up to get control of it again, to be able to re re invite into my website and let people have a better place to go find those days because yeah, right now Instagram is the only place I've been doing it. But I've definitely wanted to get something that's logged into my Jason devore.com account where it just pops up and you see it there. Almost the first thing you see, how does

Chuck Shute: 29:33

that work with the solo stuff? Like do you have like kind of a residency at some of these places? Or is it always just like, wherever they need you and they'll just book you weekly or monthly. They're

Jason DeVore: 29:43

just friends of mine at this point. I mean, I've been playing with a lot of these places since 10 years plus now. So you know, I started this thing back in 2006 with the acoustic solo thing and since then, I've made just really good relationships with a lot of the bar owners the venue's and it's kind of cool now It's like a very organic thing. I can just reach out to them. When I'm on tour and like, Hey, I'm coming home for two or three weeks and like you want to book Friday or Saturday or whatever, and it's like, oh, yeah, we're hoping this day. I'm like, Cool. Right on. We're, we're good. So it's, it's got me. Yeah, it's a cool way to, to keep keep working without having to, you know, pull your teeth out, you know, like, have these cool relationships with people. And

Chuck Shute: 30:23

you have like, kind of a local, hardcore fan base, like, do some fan fans come to all these shows? Or do you have some that are repeat customers at least?

Jason DeVore: 30:32

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool. There's, there's a tight knit community that keeps on they'll go like all the shows on one weekend, no matter what side of town it's on. They're awesome. They're just so awesome, dude. It's like, it's a really cool little clique of people.

Chuck Shute: 30:43

And that's, yeah, that's cool. I'm trying to think now you do authority zero songs solo as well.

Jason DeVore: 30:49

Not very, not very many. I'll do a couple like toward the end of my set, just to kind of like close it out to being you know, but no, I mean, I've put out three solo records for now coming up here. So it's like, I've got a lot of content, I've got another side project I did called the bollocks. It's an Irish full of punk band. So I've got that catalog as well. And I really tried to steer away from the authority zero music as much as I can, and save that for the shows here locally. And for the band, you know, what I mean? I think it's, there's enough material I think to perform. And I really wanted to push myself to stuff too, you know, when I, when I first started doing this whole acoustic thing, I would go out to open mics and like, just go under my name, I wouldn't do from authority zero, a kind of slide under the rug to try and just play the songs and get an actual audience based on the songs. And so cool. Yeah, I really enjoyed the organic, you know, element of that too. And the honest element of that too, that people weren't just like, floating my boat because they liked the authority stuff, and they're there to hear the other stuff too. I really wanted to see what that fan base was like and drop people in there were really touched by the music itself and get get that honest audience so yeah, I'll play a couple like if it's you know, people are fading out or whatever you know, it's my acoustic stuff is very singer songwriter. That can be a little bit sad a little sappy a little bit you know, harp string kind of stuff. So just get people you know, move in a little bit more like wake up. I'll play a couple authority songs maybe here in there. That's

Chuck Shute: 32:10

cool. You mentioned the Irish stuff. I cuz I thought like the song go for it on the new record that's acoustic, that had like an Irish music kind of thinking song vibe. Yeah,

Jason DeVore: 32:19

I'm a very big fan of Celtic music. I was happening. You know, I mean, like, played in the legacy of the group. Before long before I started the bollocks with my friend Keith, who's from Dublin, Ireland, like that just really made things click. I was always just a fan of Celtic music in general, like Celtic singing Celtic melodies, the culture all of it, you know what I mean? So since having formed that group, it's just been kind of in my bloodstream, and I've really just enjoyed melding and flourish I guess and like, presenting it wherever I can, you know, even with authority we've done like drunken sailor on there, like rattling bog you know, all that is drinking songs that people like what is going on? And I'm like, it's just in my head, you know, it's just who I am, I guess. So. Yeah, it definitely feeds over and bleeds into the solo stuff. Quite a lot. I get I get the people asking me what we're on from a lot of times I'm like, I'm from Arizona for me. Like Wait, what I'm like Yeah, it's weird. I know. I have this weird like, slurred or something about me that just kind of caught on with my singing and in trance you know, transposed into that as well. But yeah, I just love it man. Like I say so many different variations of music I mean, inspired by and that I really love and I don't try and fight when I'm writing music I just embrace it rather.

Chuck Shute: 33:33

Yeah, cuz like I'm on a beach. That's more the acoustic though the Spanish what would you call flamenco? Is that what do you say? Like, what is that? Is that a rocky point? I'm on a beach or which beach? Are you talking about?

Jason DeVore: 33:44

That was Rocky Point Beach again. Yeah, that song is all about that spot again. It's funny, because I quit drinking about two and a half years ago, because I like to have a lot of fun. And

Chuck Shute: 33:56

talking about that. Yeah. Yeah. And so stream person you said like, you're either you do think and that's, that's somebody else use that analogy to me about, like people who are alcoholics, they do things to the extreme. And you talked about being an extreme skateboarder, extreme musician. So when you did alcohol, it was maybe a little bit too much extreme. I'm

Jason DeVore: 34:13

an extremist, I really am. And to the fullest, that's the best way I could put it. Like, if I'm not doing something, I'm probably not doing it. Like quitting drinking. I'm like, nope, absolutely not. I'm good. I have my phone, I'm done, you know, or if I am, I'm 100% 100%. In you know, and that's what anything that's was relationships that with the band, you know, begin with 30 years from now, and things have come and gone. And people as well, unfortunately, which it's really hard, but it's I've set my mind to it. And it's, you know, that there's so much involved with that now, too, you know, so and other people as well. But yeah, so we're on a beach leaning back to that. I had quit drinking two and a half years ago and I was out in rocky point with my wife and her family. And now I'm getting up at 5am Because I'm exercising and running on the beach rather than being up all night still. So one morning I woke up and went down to the beach at five 30 And I was just sitting there watching the sunrise and it was like nobody on the beach of course. And I was looking around and I just said to myself, I'm like, I'm on a beach. There's no one around. And I just like being you know, idea popped in I ran upstairs really guitar again wrote the song and probably like 30 minutes played for the family that day on the beach. You know, it's kind of a joking song at first, you know, I was like, this can actually be something. And so I developed it a little more. And again, the production of it helped a lot to bring that to life quite a lot. And I started playing it in Rocky Point with Roger Klein in the peacemakers down there for circus Mexico's I was like your new song, like, I have no lyrics for the verses yet. But I have the chorus. Now when I say I'm on a beach, I just need you guys to say I'm on a beach. You got it. Got it. And that became like a hit Done in Rocky Point for myself, without even having lyrics for the verses. So it's now become a thing that people are waiting for this song that actually has words to it, and talks about what it means. And I can't wait to release that song coming this summer. That's

Chuck Shute: 36:01

awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to hear these songs live. It's gonna be awesome. And I'll probably be singing along terribly. So.

Jason DeVore: 36:08

I'll be right there with your brother.

Chuck Shute: 36:10

That'll be fun. And then the other interesting song is this the only cover that you have you do the cover of Hallelujah, the famous Leonard Cohen song. Yeah. Which is about him reflecting on his I didn't realize I had to look this up because I was like, what does that song about? It's about him reflecting on his Jewish heritage. Okay,

Jason DeVore: 36:28

mine is not about that.

Chuck Shute: 36:31

was not aware of the movie Shrek. So I don't know. I mean, I think there's artistic liberties with it. So

Jason DeVore: 36:37

absolutely. No, I always thought it was a beautiful song. And that's the thing is I'm not a big fan of doing covers, which is you know, you'll notice that my solo gigs. I know two or three cover songs. I know like a Bob Marley song. Stand by me and Ben Harper song and that is basically it. You know, I've never been a fan of like learning covers performing covers too awful much even though Mexican radio was was an authority zero cover we did. I was pulling, you know, they were pulling my teeth to record that for the album. Back in the day. I just didn't want to be known as the band that did the cover song. They got popular and people knew that band of that. So as I was fighting them tooth and nail. But with that said, with Ali Lujah. That was a full conscious decision because back in 2000, probably four I think it was I was on tour with the group on the east coast with a band called New Blood revival. And they're also an eclectic band. But the singer, Matt witty, he's out in New Jersey. He was a great singer songwriter himself, like he's the type of plucking like he still does. It's amazing. But he threw on Jeff Buckley, we wrote the band together one night, and he threw on Jeff Buckley. And this beautiful voice came out of the system. And it was the cover of La Lujah. And I was like, Who the fuck is this? And he's like, he's like, I'll just jump up. You know, Jeff Buckley was like, No. And so I learned about Jeff Buckley, then. Then the other Louis song, obviously. And then it'd be a Leonard Cohen song, and then my history and all that. And just hearing Jeff Buckley's sing, really made me rethink what I was singing and how I was singing and how I want to do perform. Also, I guess, not just what I was doing with the band. But it really opened my eyes in my mind to different demographics of where I could take my voice and use it and try new things experiment. And I was like, I think I could do that. I'm like, I like I think I can sing sing to rather than just scream at people all day. So I started, that's when I started getting into this whole acoustic thing was right around that timeframe and started practicing the acoustic guitar more trying to sing and play acoustic at the same time. And that was kind of how I spent my time in between shows on tour with the band was just learning and learning and learning. And then the song I've always wanted to do, and cover but I never could get it figured out. And this time around. I learned in about a year and a half ago, finally sat down just buckled down and learned it. And I was like I think want to take a chance and like try and record that this this album this time around. I think I'm at the point to where I can pull it off live and on the record and make it beautiful. And so I went for it and what came out came out. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 39:05

I think it's great. I think the whole album is great. It's amazing. It comes out in June right? I don't know what it was the exact date. I don't know if I have

Jason DeVore: 39:13

June 7 2024. Okay,

Chuck Shute: 39:16

but the single the first single is a is coming out May 4 and fifth grade.

Jason DeVore: 39:21

First singles coming out May 4. Yes. That is turn it off when you're talking about. And then second one is May 26, I believe is I'm on a beach. Okay,

Chuck Shute: 39:31

that's gonna be the same. And then as the song courage, I feel like that one's already out. Right?

Jason DeVore: 39:35

That's kind of out. I recorded that song four times. I mean, I did want to make my first acoustic album was like really raw. I've just gotten back home from tour and my voice has kind of blown out so it's kind of a cool thing on it, but it never I never recorded it the way I wanted to hear it like in the big once again cinematic, Braveheart kind of way, I guess you could say. So it also has kind of a Celtic tinge to it. You know, there you know I'm playing a tin whistle on that that I got from Dublin, Ireland back when was that? was in 20 years ago. So it's got a cool element to it, some strings on it. We're going to release that, again, I do a thing called the Courage Campaign that I started last year of Courage Campaign. And we're going to release this courage with the Courage Campaign coming up sometime in the middle of summer.

Chuck Shute: 40:17

What is that? What is the Courage Campaign,

Jason DeVore: 40:19

it's just, it's an idea of just giving people hope and strength in difficult times, you know, everyone's going through hardship all the time. You know, it's, it's a way to present the song, maybe listen to it, when you're having a hard time I've heard from a lot of people that have helped them in their hard times, and pulled them out of a really dark place. So it's almost just a reminder to not give up hope and your difficult situations in life and that step the strength to face them, take them on, and deal with the hardship that comes along with it to get to that better place. That's

Chuck Shute: 40:48

cool. Do you feel like that's like your kind of your purpose on earth? Is it just make this music to help people in that way?

Jason DeVore: 40:55

I don't know if it is van, but I mean, I do know that it's, it's, it's definitely I've gotten feedback that it has helped a lot of people, which makes me feel good about what I've done with it and gives me confidence that, you know, the way I'm writing through my own hardships, an expression of that and working myself through them, has helped people out. And it does feel like it might be something of at this point, maybe some kind of purpose. Yeah, I guess I could save maybe. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 41:21

So then yeah. Why would you doubt that? It sounds like that's exactly what's going on?

Jason DeVore: 41:25

Yeah, then I'll say yes.

Chuck Shute: 41:28

You heard a lot of those stories, like from fans, if you're solo or fans of authority zero that have approached you after shows and said, Hey, this song, or this album really helped get me through a tough time or? Absolutely,

Jason DeVore: 41:40

I mean, to know it, and that's honestly, why I still do the authority zero music to this day, is because of those fans and those stories in certain songs from the band, because it means what seems to be a lot to a lot of these people, you know, that have come to the shows throughout the years, and change their lives like detrimentally, I've heard, you know, I almost committed suicide all the way to that, you know, I'm, I'm sure a lot of bands have heard that. But it's when it's your song, and you just were this kid, you know, writing stuff in your garage, and you hear the stuff around the world, it blows your mind. And it makes you think, on a broader span, and I'm just writing tunes for whatever, you know, just because it's like, it's got purpose to it, and it's got got reason behind it. So it's, it's pretty, it's pretty hardcore. When people come up to you and talk to you about their, their hardships, and whether it be military. A lot of times I've had a lot of those stories come to me. You know, people, you know, again, on the edge of just committing suicide, it's it's pretty wild man.

Chuck Shute: 42:36

Yeah, that's amazing thing that music is and what it does and what you guys do as musicians, I think that's great. You mentioned something earlier, I wanted to ask you about when you said, members coming and going from authority zero, that's been really hard. So is that just, it's sad? Because I mean, it sounds like they're leaving on. It's like friendly terms, right? I mean, if it's the thing where it's like, hey, I need more money, it's not like a bitter thing, right? No,

Jason DeVore: 43:00

we've had I mean, it's the same with the band man is like any band, I'll tell you there's, there's, there's, there's dirt in there, you know, in between the lines, obviously, you know, and there's stuff that's gone down, when your band for that long, and we started as kids with not a care in the world. And obviously you grow up and you start these things started coming into play like marriages, kids mortgages, why'd you know all of it, and just people change, you know, people, actually, you're a kid, you're all just kind of like kids figuring it out. When you grow, start growing up, you start getting your own independence. And when you're just a group of four punk rock kids, but not appear in the world turning into like individuals, now things started kind of like, you know, head button a little bit here and there between members, which leads to some people saying, you get he's gotta go, or I gotta go, unfortunately, kind of stuff scenarios like that come up, actual facts come up, you know, like fights have happened in the band. And in the past. In the end, we're all still friends. But at that time, things get tense. And decisions need to be made on their end, specifically, if that's what they want to continue doing or not. Or if they want to move on and do something else, and vice versa. So it's been a lot, it's been a lot of hardships, which is, you know, the sad part about it, because these were my best friends coming up as a kid. And I pictured Aerosmith, that picture of us going until we're 4400 years old, and the same group of people, and then it became, I guess, a real band where things change and like, you know, new people come in, and I'm like, oh, man, I never saw this coming. How are we gonna deal with like, this new personality, this new guitarist explained to the fans, how's that going to work? But you figured out it doesn't work, you figure it out, you find a way you, you know, you just take it with stride, and you take it for what it is, and you grow with it, or you just stopped doing it. And, you know, at that point, and the first change has happened, I've already put 15 years of my life into it, you know, and so I was like, Well, this is what I do. This is like my life path. This is like, you know, it's the only thing I know, it's like I'm doing this since I was a kid I have this like degree or all these things, you know, it's like just kind of go off and do whatever else. I'm like, This is what I do. I wanted to do, it's what I've chosen to do. And it's what I love doing. And I love these fans of the band too. So it does take time, you know, to like heal those wounds a bit and come back to terms with like, some people get upset that you're still doing the band without them, which I understand. But there's also the other side where I'm I'm upset that you chose not to be a part of this anymore. So it's, it goes both ways. But in the end, we've all grown up. We're all adults. Now. We all noticed just like we're all doing our lives. And we're doing what makes us happy and surviving, you know? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 45:31

Is there anything that when you look back as a wiser person now? Is there something that you would have done differently? Or any advice you'd have for younger bands on how to work through those hurdles? Like, is this just maybe the part of the way things go? Sometimes?

Jason DeVore: 45:45

Yeah, it is part of the way things go sometimes. But what I would say is, I was very passive aggressive with my band throughout the years, because I was trying so hard to keep us together, you know, that I would like kind of eat the shit a lot, I guess to like, make sure that said person was happy to that person, I wouldn't say certain things are on my mind as much to cause an uproar and have someone leave. So that's one thing in my younger years that I would have probably changed. But then again, maybe I wouldn't, because maybe I wouldn't still be here. 30 years later, still doing the band, because I've decided to take the backseat with you to pick my battles, I guess more had just spoken up and ranted off, it might have been over a long time ago. But I think that, because of that what I've learned a lot is patience. A lot of patience understanding, because you know, everyone is once again individuals, your band, but you're all different people. And so you'll want to be keep an open mind to that and know that no one's going to think the same thing. You're thinking all the time, no one's gonna think that's the better one just saying something or play something. They've got their own idea and their own vision. And it's just a matter of being open minded to that and being patient with the people you're in the bandwidth to create the longevity as well as a happy environment, a happier environment, I guess, because you're you're in a van 24 hours a day, or 23 hours a day, you're on stage for one hour. You know, it's like, that's kind of way to look at it too. And then one hour on stage, you forget about all that stuff. So it's like the other 23 hours. I'd say also make sure you deal with people that you trust that you appreciate that you're friends with, but know that that can be a thing that will be conflicting as well at some point in time because it becomes business to some in some way or another if you're going to continue doing it.

Chuck Shute: 47:20

Wow. Yeah, that's great advice. Yeah, I think like two I think communication. You say passive aggressive, you wish you that you were more? Or that you'd said things more. But I mean, I think there's difference between being assertive and being aggressive, like, you can speak up and but you know, choosing your battles, I guess that is a good point as well. So yeah, and

Jason DeVore: 47:38

choosing the way you say things, I guess the passive aggressive thing. It's like, you can say what's on your mind. Just maybe take a breath before you do it. And so you don't say the wrong thing. And they actually listen, rather than just getting defensive.

Chuck Shute: 47:50

Yeah. Well, it sounds like you're you're learning a lot. That is tough. I mean, it's always interesting. You know, as a fan, you just look at bands and you go, why can't they stay together? And then, you know, after I've done these interviews, and it's not I've not only interviewed musicians, but you know, it's a lot of musicians and you learn these stories, and then you get it. And then you're like, oh, okay, I understand why these guys aren't together, why they broke up, or why this person left. And it makes sense, because it's thinking about your normal life, like, you know, coworkers and things and family members like being in a band. It's like, it's like a family, right? You're on a tour bus, like you said, 23 of the 24 hours. You're having to deal with each other. Yeah, we're

Jason DeVore: 48:29

in a van. You know, we're on tour bus.

Chuck Shute: 48:32

Right? Yeah,

Jason DeVore: 48:33

you're taking turns driving overnight, you're under slept, you're fucking hungover. You're like, you know, you're too close to this guy. He's just being an asshole that day looks ugly, you know, whatever it might be. It's like, she like that just adds up and piles up. And you're like, get me out of here, dude. And it's like, that's your life, like the rock and roll on stage. That's fucking awesome. But the rest of it can sometimes suck. Because it's like, it's not easy. It's a really difficult situation to be in. And you have to have pretty thick skin and have a strong, strong mentality of what you actually why you're there and why you want to be there to stay there.

Chuck Shute: 49:07

Yeah, so do you ever? What is the biggest show that you've done? I mean, you must have not always been in a van. Was there ever times where there was a tour bus? Or did you ever get like a charter plane or anything for like, some of these festivals or anything?

Jason DeVore: 49:19

We've done fun things like that. Yeah, we did the bus thing back in the day. We you know, the thing with the buses, man, like we do the bus, you come home with less money again, there's still bills to be paid. You know, again, we're not this huge band. We've got our people you know, of course, but we're not, you know, not making tons and tons of money. So so it's like, you need to pick and choose again, how you want to spend that money and what you want to come home with and, you know, explain to your families why you can't pay the bills or why you can. So it's like yeah, we didn't have a day we did like the bus tour. It was fun. It was great, but it's almost like I always prefer the van over that with the hotel rooms because then you get to clean sleeping space every night. Where's the bus? You're like stuck in this place with all the dudes this feed, you know, farts, you name it. So all that stuff has gone into picture. But we've done that. Also, there's like back in the early days, we did a, we did a charter. Was it a little private jet from Sacramento to LA? Because we had to do a performance after our show in Sacramento in LA that same night. And so that was a moment. I've got a videotape somewhere because it's like once in a lifetime, but pretty cool. Like, like five of us in the jet. You know, the pilots are right here was taken off and like it's going on right now. This is so awesome. That

Chuck Shute: 50:31

is cool. What other memorable shows do you have? Like, what are some really? You must have had some really crazy ones.

Jason DeVore: 50:38

Oh, man, I mean, yeah, half of I don't remember because like I said, like to party, but just like the work tours were always insanely awesome. You know, like all the work tours, you've done a lot of those stands out. I mean, the organizer tour we did on a bus that stands out quite a lot with pepper and penny wise. That was just a lot of fun. We were on the Jaeger master bus and there was no water, but there was like, actual Jaeger Maestro machine. So you get thirsty, you got to drink something. I got mugged. And I got mugged in San Francisco and attended to tenderloin district late night like 3am on that tour. And that's not really a show. I guess that's the stands out. But they've all just been crazy, man. It's all been a lot. It's been a wild ride. It's been a lot of fun. But a lot of intensity. One of the biggest ones stands out I guess is resurrection festival in Spain. That one's always a great one. It's like, cheese. 50,000 people. And you feel like every single person knows your songs, you know, and they're singing along, even if they don't know the words. You know, Japanese tours are crazy, same kind of feeling. You know, it's just so many good shows across the world. It's just been they've all been unique in their own way. And super special. That's

Chuck Shute: 51:48

cool. Do the shows. And the reaction from the crowd? Does that is that the thing that keeps you going? Because I would think too. Sometimes you maybe just get burned out doing this so long. And I just all the stuff like you said the logistics of the traveling and stuff would get tiresome at some point. You

Jason DeVore: 52:05

get exhausted, I mean, a obviously you get exhausted for sure. And that never kind of ends just get used to it, you know, you find a way to deal with it. But the fans Absolutely. Like I said, the fans are the thing that keep driving me to keep on doing this. I love music. And obviously I can go off and do with my solo stuff only. I think I have a lot of fun doing that. But there's something about the ying and the yang of what I do with the group as well as with this old stuff that it's just the fire inside me that kind of fuels all those things and the fans and their, again, their stories that intensity. That's the talks after the shows. Just the the looks on their faces from the stage looking at like me looking back at myself as a kid looking at the bands I love when I was younger. You know, that feeling I see in their face that I had when I was a kid, seeing the people I look up to. It just keeps me driven. You know, it keeps me inspired and excited.

Chuck Shute: 52:54

Yeah, that's so awesome. That's cool. I love what you're doing. I love the new album. So people can they can pre save the single and then the rest of the album will be out soon. Yeah, June 7, June 7 next month. So that's great. And then you've got some shows, and then you'll update the website. And I think authority Zero has got some shows coming up too, right? We

Jason DeVore: 53:14

do. Yeah, we have Lake Havasu in a couple of weeks. And then Las Vegas again for a festival out there.

Chuck Shute: 53:20

Have a zoo what's going on? Like how this is their festival.

Jason DeVore: 53:23

Now we're just playing there. You know, Frank from booty locals know, is the thing of the old singer. He's not in the band anymore. But he's throwing the show out there. Let me see if I could find the actual thing. Because it I

Chuck Shute: 53:35

will have to I might have to go to that if I if I'm around here. That's fine.

Jason DeVore: 53:40

Yeah, like obviously. Oh, there's no, there's no actual thing on my calendar as far as like where it's at. Yeah, it's on. May 12. Looks like I'm sorry. No. May 10.

Chuck Shute: 53:52

I'm assuming that's the weekend. Hopefully.

Jason DeVore: 53:54

That's the weekend. Yeah, it's Friday night. We'll be out there. It's only authority zero.com website if people want to check out that day.

Chuck Shute: 54:00

Okay, cool. So people can follow you on social media follow authority zero. New Music come in. And then as your new authority zero at some point, too.

Jason DeVore: 54:08

Yeah, this is our 30 year anniversary, like I mentioned. So we just got back on two weeks out in California. About four days ago. We got back on. We're on California for two weeks recording new authority zero music. And we're planning on doing something special this year for our to commemorate our 30 year anniversary for the fans. But also it's also working toward a new album coming out next year. 2025.

Chuck Shute: 54:31

Okay, awesome. Well, thanks so much for doing this. I appreciate it.

Jason DeVore: 54:34

Yeah, you too, man. Good conversation is good talking to you.

Chuck Shute: 54:37

All right, you too. See you later. Take care. Bye.