Jimmie Bones (Kid Rock)

Jimmie Bones is most widely known as the longtime keyboardist, backing vocalist for Kid Rock and the Twisted Brown Trucker Band. He also has a solo career as a singer/songwriter.  In this episode we discuss his early musical beginnings, opening for The Rolling Stones, having Kid Rock as a boss, his solo career and more!

0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:13 - David Duchovny & Billy Bob Thornton
0:01:15 - Star Quality & Doing Interviews
0:04:05 - Jimmie's Path to Joining Kid Rock
0:08:45 - Beatles on Ed Sullivan Inspires
0:12:35 - Piano, Singing, Solo Career & Emotion in Music
0:15:57 - Touring with Peter Wolf of J Giles Band
0:18:37 - Opening for The Rolling Stones
0:20:05 - Beatles & Bob Seger
0:22:00 - Playing Football Games
0:23:40 - Kid Rock, It Factor & Initial Thoughts
0:28:00 - Devil Without a Cause & Early Years
0:31:05 - Kid Rock Getting Signed & Jimmie Joining
0:34:20 - Rest of the Kid Rock Band
0:37:30 - Drummers Who Sing
0:38:40 - Jimmie's Solo Band
0:42:05 - Great Songs & Outside Songwriters
0:46:20 - Writing & Recording with Sheryl Crow
0:48:45 - Kid Rock as a Boss & His Political Views
0:51:25 - Kid Rock White House
0:53:02 - Nashville Music Scene
0:56:00 - Touring with Metallica 
0:58:15 - Touring with Jason Aldean
0:59:50 - Super Bowl Halftime Show
1:01:10 - Touring & Traveling
1:03:50 - Promotions
1:08:10 - Outro

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Transcript

Jimmie Bones: 0:12

Now Yeah. I watched a couple of years I watched David New Covenant. It sounded like he was just talking into the right into those computers iPhone or so.

Chuck Shute: 0:24

Yeah, that was a fun one. Yeah, he's a cool guy. Oh,

Jimmie Bones: 0:27

yeah. Fan. So

Chuck Shute: 0:31

yeah, he had the X Files. His music is pretty good too. Like, he obviously hired like a really good backing band to help support him. And he even says, he's like, Look, I'm not. I know my limitations as a singer, you know, but he's, he's having fun. It's cool. Like those guys like Billy Bob Thornton, you said you've worked with him before too, right?

Jimmie Bones: 0:49

We they've opened for us with his band, his old band. And that was at the Harley Davidson 100th anniversary, not the current thing that he's got going on, which is really cool. But and then I've talked to him a few times, hung out with them, you know, at the Sunset Marquis and, and, you know, more informal buyer situations in it.

Chuck Shute: 1:14

Yeah. Do you notice that there's a there's a certain star quality that these guys like the David do companies and the Billy Bob Thornton's and the kid rocks. Like, they just had that like it factor. Like you just know, like, Oh, this guy's a star. Like it's just this personality that it's so they're so likable. You

Jimmie Bones: 1:31

said exactly it. It is the word that people that are are at that level. Have it, you know, or as or as David Lee Roth would say charisma harass.

Chuck Shute: 1:48

Yeah, that's a good word. Yeah, like that. Shows interesting when you do these interviews, like, and like D Schneider, that's another one where I'm just like this guy, just because that like personnel, like, it's almost like to I think there's a lot of this, like, I don't give a fuck what other people think about me, this is what I think and what you know, like it or leave it. And then, you know, some people don't like him, obviously. But there's enough that like him, that they have fame and success.

Jimmie Bones: 2:10

And I think deep down they really do. I mean, you know, even if I want to say hey, I don't care what people think about me, and I care what people think about me, you know, right.

Chuck Shute: 2:23

It's it. Maybe it's partly an act to especially like when you mentioned like a David Lee Roth. I'm sure that a lot of his stuff is an act.

Jimmie Bones: 2:32

Yeah, I've never met him. But yeah, he's definitely a performer. So you know, and he does have it. He's got charisma.

Chuck Shute: 2:40

Definitely. Yeah, I have a buddy who's like obsessed with him as a David Lee Roth centered podcast and wrote a book about him and I read the book. And so I think I probably know more about David Lee Roth than I should but yeah, he's an interesting guy.

Jimmie Bones: 2:54

So we never we is this just recorded? Is this being real informal like yeah, this

Chuck Shute: 3:02

is it. We're doing it. Let's do it. Let's

Jimmie Bones: 3:04

get the dog starts barking I got a really large dog with a really aggressive deep bark, but he's a giant puppy. Oh, yeah, that

Chuck Shute: 3:13

happens so much. It's just the way it goes with Zoom and stuff. Yeah, one of these days I'm getting a real in studio and I want to I'm going to start getting people you know, because people tour Arizona comedians, and musicians and intellectual people doing, you know, lectures and stuff. I want to get people in person. That's the goal eventually, you know, but for now, zoom works. And so yeah, there's dogs barking, there's kids coming in and out. Well,

Jimmie Bones: 3:41

I've I watched your stuff. I love the intro with the wall breaking down and everything coming out. And you know, from behind the bricks or busting the wall down. And this is this works, man. That's it's I tell you what, man. I love what you got going on. It's really cool. Thanks.

Chuck Shute: 4:00

Yeah, I love what you've done. It's amazing like it because i really i Kid Rock was doing a couple interviews. Like I saw him on Rogen and stuff. And I was like, I want to get Kid Rock on my show. I'm like, Yeah, I can't get K rock. I was like, Well, what? Let me let me see like, can I get somebody in his band? Because I had Kenny. Kenny also. My brother. Yeah, he's hot. He was awesome. And I was like, who's the most senior member of his band. And it's you. You've been there since the beginning. So you must have you probably have better stories than he does. Because he might not remember all the stuff that happened. Well,

Jimmie Bones: 4:30

Kenny was actually there maybe a couple of months before me. But right around the same timeframe. We started working together. I was at the time, the way that I met Bob. I was in Robert Bradley's Blackwater surprise we were on RCA Records if you remember that. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 4:52

I remember you tell him I heard you tell the story that this guy was like a blind street singer assigned him and to the which is what Really cool. But you said something that some days he'd walk away with, like $800 cash tips just from playing on the street.

Jimmie Bones: 5:07

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, he was down. There's an area in downtown Detroit called Eastern Market. And there's just a bunch of barns and everything and people go there every weekend, you can buy everything from flowers to produce to live chickens to land to anything that you know. And it is it's a big open air market. It's huge. It's been there, probably for a century and a half, if not longer. But he used to perform down there on Saturday mornings and Bosque, and people would have his guitar, you'd have his guitar case out. And people would, you know, throw money and yeah, he would walk away 1200 bucks cash. And so on a good weekend, you know, which is, is quite often now. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 6:00

So you must you played in your first band was crossroads, and you are the singer. You were the frontman. So was it a lot more bands before you got that deal with RCA Records?

Jimmie Bones: 6:10

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, that was so. So crossroads. This was back in the 70s when I was like, in high school, and you know, and we were the I remember, I was in class. I was I was like, in the 11th grade and I'm playing my harmonica, you know, and sky couple of rows back from he's like, Hey, like, can you sing? And I said, Sure. And he's like, we need a singer man. We got a band. Let's pick come in. Do you want to come in Audition tonight and says yeah, pick me up give them the address. I go in. The first song I played with them was going down. You know, by you know, the Friday King song but you know, we we knew it from from Jeff Beck and everything. No piano there or anything. But I sang and played harmonica and the next song that I did, and they're like, all looking around, and like, Okay, I'm blown nose. And then they launched in the Never in my life by mouth. And I sang that. And then we did keep playing that rock and roll by Edgar Winter, white trash. And they're looking around and I'm like, Oh, my that bad. And they're like, No, you're in a bad you know? So that's cool. You never stopped rolling since you know.

Chuck Shute: 7:36

Did you ever meet Edgar Winter I had him on the show. He's so nice. He's kind soul. I

Jimmie Bones: 7:41

have not. But one of the guys that that plays on a lot of my live gigs and is probably he's on everything that I've released pretty much and, and everything that I've ever been in a session on. He's on probably about 80% of his Johnny BB to angelic. He was the original founding drummer and Mitch Ryder and the Detroit wheels with Jim McCarty, and then later the rackets. But B is also recorded with Alice Cooper, that's all him on play a non Welcome to my nightmare. But that's be playing with Edgar Weiner, who he toured with as well. But that's him playing on Frankenstein, on. We all had a real good time and free ride. So you know, I've never had the chance to meet Edgar, but it hurt. I've heard so many stories about him just through Johnny B.

Chuck Shute: 8:42

Yeah, that's cool. Like I heard you talking. I mean, it's such a different time. Like when you started in the band, what did you say that? That will kind of what inspired you? First was a scene The Beatles on Ed Sullivan? Like I always hear people talking about that. Obviously, I wasn't alive then. But was it? I was curious, like the next day? Was everyone talking about that at school? Like because? Before DVRs and reruns and stuff? Like what if you miss that? And ever? Like what have you are grounded that night? Or like you had to do homework or like your Bible study or something? Like was there kids that missed that? And then they're like, Damn, it's like, I missed this amazing moment. Well,

Jimmie Bones: 9:21

yeah, I was very much alive at the time, but not at an age where I would be aware of all the all of the hype and everything that was going on. I just happen to see it. We were at my grandparents house, as we often were on Sundays, and my grandpa always had to watch the Jackie Gleason show. And that was followed by the Ed Sullivan Show. So you know, caught that. And it definitely blew my wig back at about four and a half, five years old. You know what hair I had because my mom used to give me a bush cut all the time, you know? So that's

Chuck Shute: 9:57

like one of your first memories because I'm trying to Think if I can remember anything from age four or five, I guess there's not a lot.

Jimmie Bones: 10:03

It definitely made an impact, you know, certain things when they're huge. Doesn't matter how I remember things from even even much younger, but they made a huge impact. But that was definitely one of those moments that, you know, left an impression. And then the next day, my mom and dad went out and bought, you know, meet the Beatles. And the fact that I think this route is, wow, that is the copy. And amazing. Yeah, so. So my mom and dad went out and bought that, and they were listening on their little, whatever, RCA Victor, you know, record player in the living room.

Unknown: 10:51

So that how long from that moment, but really,

Jimmie Bones: 10:54

really fast? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 10:56

So how long from then until you like, picked up an instrument and started playing yourself? I'm

Jimmie Bones: 11:02

not until I was about 10 years old. Okay. You know, I started metal choice harmonica, because my grandfather played Okay. And, and I think I was about nine, or I think it was about nine or 10. And they got a Hammond organ. And with the Hammond organ that you bought from Grinnell brothers, or wherever you got it from she, you got free lesson. So my mom and my sister began taking lessons. And I started just messing around with it. Trying to play different things, you know, by ears strictly by ear. And, and, and then they said, Well, you want to try it, you know? And I said, sure thing, let's Yeah, I'll do that. You know, I'll try anything once. You know, at that age, it was doing whatever. And so they kind of fell by the wayside. And I ran with Wow. And then I, you know, I really have never had a piano lesson in my life. But although I did learn maybe about a couple, three, four years on, on on Hammond organ from jazz guys, and you know, guys that were playing standards and lounge kind of stuff, kicking bass pedals in that I really wanted to gravitate more towards piano from seeing Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, you know, hearing new Nicky Hopkins, Johnny Johnson, people like that, you know, that we're playing on all the junk berry records and Rolling Stones and everybody else, you know, that's way more towards that. You know that. Yeah. How did you ever beat on the piano stuff? Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 12:56

Right. So then how did you learn how to sing because for people who don't know, like, I went down the rabbit hole, and like, I checked out your solo stuff. I was like, wow, this is like, you're really talented. Like, I mean, you don't get to showcase it as much with Kid Rock. But I mean, you do the piano and sing by yourself. Like you could just just you with a piano and singing is amazing. It's like, you're super talented.

Jimmie Bones: 13:16

Thank you, thank you, thank you, you're, you're being very kind because, you know, there's days when I feel like oh my god, I should just, you know, I shouldn't be doing this. I I hear some of these people, you know, kids that are, you know, 12 1314 years old, and oh my god, these kids are ridiculous. But, but yeah, ever really bad. I didn't have any training, the training that I had was the record player in the records and just listening to it. And, you know, feel in it and hear and, you know, I guess I was blessed with a pretty good ear that I can recognize tones. And I just went for it and did what I could. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 14:00

Well, I think that's a difference because you talked about kids. And I've seen that too. Like on tick tock I mean, there's these guitar virtuosos who are very technically you know, they're amazing but like you can feel it when you listen to your when you listen to you sing and play the piano like you're playing with like Soul. Like I think that's the difference with that old school kind of blues jazz, like, you really can feel it. It's a different kind of a feel. And maybe sometimes it's not even technically correct. I don't know, because I'm not a musician, but it

Jimmie Bones: 14:28

definitely comes from the heart with me, the heart and the soul. I mean, music moves me, you know, there's pieces of music that'll bring me to tears, you know, anytime I hear it, I really like which songs Oh, holy night. can't listen to that song without my eyes. Well, yeah. So you know, things like that. You know, there's things and one of the coolest things is, I'll feel I feel really close. So I got my kids, the younger ones My one daughter is 12. And very, very in tune with the Beatles queen, The Rolling Stones, all the classic stuff. She played both of my girls, the 10 year old and 12 year old both played viola in, in the school orchestra. And so she said to me, she's like, Hey, yellows come in. And she knows that they've got a section. You know, they've got they've got these three gals that play cello and violin and viola. And she's like, let's go. So I got her tickets to CEO. Oh,

Chuck Shute: 15:39

wow. So do you get like, you get the Kid Rock like specialty backstage kind of amazing seats, or do you just have to buy regular tickets?

Jimmie Bones: 15:47

There's been times but I just bought a regular ticket for this and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna go enjoy it like I used to. When I used to buy tickets to shows and go see the Jay Geils Band when I was 16 years old at Cobo or kiss, you know? Yeah. Anybody? And didn't you?

Chuck Shute: 16:07

Tour with the guy from Jay Geils Band with his name? Well, yeah, yeah.

Jimmie Bones: 16:12

Yeah, we did a we did a tour, it was probably around I think 2003 I believe it was the Rock and Roll revival tour. And to our show, and we had a 15 minute intermission in between no opening act, we would come out do probably about five songs, you know, the way we normally do. And then Bob would introduce Peter Wolf, he would come out and do love sticks. Okay. And then he would leave, we do some more. And then we bring him back out to close the first portion, you know, before the intermission, and we would do ain't too proud to beg because Peter is such a, you know, soul r&b Dude, you know, so we did ain't too proud to beg and launched into Monster got lost, you know, and he did the whole repute of the beauty of speech and the whole thing and everything. So, I mean, that was huge for me, you know, after seeing that, and being able to actually perform somebody that I was a hero of mine. No, and then we then we would do centerfold. And then we'd have the intermission, and house lights would go down, and I come back out, did it it did it, did it. It did it, did it. And we're going to Rockbox run from Run DMC would come out, and we do a section with him. We would do our show, and we'd bring everybody back for the encore and do this little light. And

Chuck Shute: 17:53

this. So this was this was a tour with Run DMC.

Jimmie Bones: 17:57

While no, Ron was also on the tour as a guest along. Okay. So then Peter did, I believe four weeks of it. And he had other obligations. So he left the tour. And Dickey Betts joined us. And he ran for the rest of it. Oh,

Chuck Shute: 18:18

yeah. He recently passed away, right last week. Yeah. That's sad,

Jimmie Bones: 18:23

you know, but, you know, it's people that I that were heroes of mine, and that I grew up listening to, and studying it, and I get, you know, I get to actually perform with them. And

Chuck Shute: 18:37

yeah, the craziest one to me is like opening for the Rolling Stones. And you said Mick Jagger watched you guys side stage? That's

Jimmie Bones: 18:43

yeah. Back to Oh, yeah. I got the poster right back here, man. We did it at where was it? Oh, so at Ohio Stadium. In Columbus, Ohio. So yeah, we we opened with Bob with a BA. And I'm playing and and I look over to my right, because they had their own monitor console. You know, at that stage, right? I look and Mick is just, you know, 20 feet away from me. He's got a ball cap on and he's just, he's just grooving. And this MC doesn't. MC doesn't watch anything without study. You know, even the technical side of things, if he's going to see a band and watching the show. He's looking at everything. He's looking at the monitor desk. He's looking at the settings that they have. I mean, he is he's a genius as far as production and the whole business,

Chuck Shute: 19:43

you know, so you think he definitely looked you up and down at least at one point? Yeah, he's

Jimmie Bones: 19:47

he was like, Yeah, I don't want to be nothing like this guidance.

Chuck Shute: 19:52

No, that's awesome. That's crazy to think of Mick Jagger rocking out to Kid Rock. It's kind of a It

Jimmie Bones: 19:58

was fun. Yeah, it was. It was fun. Yeah, it was definitely an honor to be able to open up for the Rolling Stones. I hope we get to do it again. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 20:05

Now what about the Beatles? Did you ever have you ever met Ringo? Or Paul or any any of them?

Jimmie Bones: 20:10

I have not. No, I've never. Jason Krause. Our guitar player met Paul, really briefly. We were doing something in New York television performance. I think it was maybe an award show having to do with whoever MTV or whatever. And he comes back and he's I just met Paul McCartney. And he's, you know, told them I'm the guitar player from Kid Rock introduce themselves. And Paul just said, that great to meet you. Be careful. That was it.

Chuck Shute: 20:41

Yeah, so I see the post the other poster behind you the Bob Seger. That's cool. Because now Kid Rock and Bob Seger both from Detroit. So there's got to be some brotherhood there, right.

Jimmie Bones: 20:51

Oh, yeah, definitely. That's that's a that's a very close friendship. And we did some dates with them. Let's see Minneapolis and Fargo and that and you know, he's he's joined us on stage at our own shows come out to do the Encore. You know, do old time rock and roll rock and roll never forgets or some things like that. Oh, really?

Chuck Shute: 21:19

Is there? Is there video not? I'd love to see that.

Jimmie Bones: 21:22

I think there's I think you can find it on you too. Would be we had we had done. What what tour was it? There was a couple of them where we did 10 not sold out nights in Detroit at Pine knob, which is the outdoor amphitheater. So this would have been the second year that we did that. And he joined us on stage for the final light on core.

Chuck Shute: 21:52

Who is that? I was trying to figure out? Did you watch the Thanksgiving game? This year? The lions? Oh, that's Jack Harlow. I don't know if you watch the thanks. So every year you know the lions play on Thanksgiving episode. Yeah, they'll have some sort of Detroit music act. And this seems like they've screwed it up so many like they had Jack Harlow which I guess he's I never heard of them until that. But he came out and the performance was just to me, it seems so lackluster. I'm like why can't they why don't they get like a Bob Seger or Kid Rock? Have you ever played one of those Thanksgiving games? Or I don't think you've ever played a Super Bowl or anything like that. Well, yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 22:31

we definitely have we've, we've performed at the Thanksgiving game. I think it was the first year that they were at Ford Field. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we did. We did Thanksgiving that year. And that was that was really fun.

Chuck Shute: 22:49

Yeah, cuz that seems like that would be a better fit for for a mainstream audience. Like I think most people could get behind the songs that you guys do. I mean, you have so many hits, and it should get you guys again. I think it'd be awesome.

Jimmie Bones: 23:02

I'd love to do it. Yeah, I didn't. But I didn't see the I was watching the game in and out of the kitchen. I'm the chef around here on Thanksgiving. So I think all right, it's halftime. I gotta get back in the kitchen.

Chuck Shute: 23:16

Okay, when we get off this conversation, YouTube, Jack Harlow. I just want to get your thoughts. It's so interesting to me like, record. Yeah, maybe it's just because like, I'm old, and I just don't get I just he walks out there and he just looks like bored. I don't know. It's like, I don't know, really? I

Jimmie Bones: 23:36

don't know. No fire to it.

Chuck Shute: 23:39

No. Like, no, like when Kid Rock comes out. I mean, there's just this I remember when Kid Rock first, like broke or whatever became famous. They were saying he there was some comparisons or maybe this came from him. But Sebastian Bach from Skid Row was saying, Oh, they're saying Kid Rock is like the new version of me, you know, because it's about I'm a big Skid Row fan and Sebastian Bach. I mean, he just come out there. And this energy, it was just And that's Kid Rock hat. And so that to me, that's like rock and roll. Like, you gotta have that like, Worcester. Like we were saying, the beginning of the star power the it thing where you just, it's like, people are drawn to you and you're pumping up the crowd. And, you know, yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 24:17

Bob definitely does. He definitely has it. And he's, he's probably had it all his life. He's he's just knows how to draw people in. You know, make them feel what he's putting forth. Believe in. You know, there has been times where I thought oh, man, maybe this isn't gonna work. And for whatever reason, it the Dice just roll in his favor.

Chuck Shute: 24:50

Yeah. What did you think though? Because when you first joined his band, I mean, you're with Robert Bradley, who I'm assuming that was more of a traditional blues rock. And then you go to Kid Rock, who I think before his first the big album, The Devil Without A Cause I think he was like, basically a rapper. And then he kind of took some of that rap element, but then added a rock, and a country and a blues, like he just melded all these different genres, which was really cool. But what were your thoughts at the time? Are you thinking? This is a crazy idea?

Jimmie Bones: 25:23

No, not at all. I, I was introduced to him through Robert Bradley, we recorded that reverse Robert Bradley record, in a studio in Detroit, White Room studios. And when I would be in there tracking with the guys, Bob was in the back room, and at the time, and he was working on early morning stone pimp.

Chuck Shute: 25:49

Okay, good. Because that was one of those like, pure, pretty much pure rap albums. Right?

Jimmie Bones: 25:53

Yeah, yeah. Beef. Prior to that. I mean, this would have been maybe a couple three years before that. He was signed to Jive Records. And he put out grilled sandwiches for breakfast. And that was as he was out tour and with D nice. And yo, I think I think he was maybe only 15 years old or something like that. 17

Chuck Shute: 26:21

played on early morning stone pimps. Right? You're on that record? Well,

Jimmie Bones: 26:24

that's what happened. He ended up having me come in and track some piano. On on, I think it was paid. The track paid. Okay. That's also on the history of rock, which would have been that was released after Devil Without a Cause. So it was you wanted to put something as a sort of a retrospect to what got him to double die.

Chuck Shute: 26:50

And that's when Uncle Kracker who later ended up and you played with him on one album, and he ended up having a bunch of hits. He was like, Kid rocks, DJ.

Jimmie Bones: 26:59

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When when kid was doing pretty much a straight Hip Hop act, you know? Yeah, cracker was the DJ. And but both of them really had, you know, had their finger on the pulse with country music with rock and roll, r&b. Definitely, all of that huge. I mean, both of them are huge fans of everything. You know, Bob is a huge fan of everything that we do. And, you know, just the same as the Rolling Stones or the Beatles or anybody else is I think, I think musicians that whether you make it better or not, what keeps you wanting to do it as you're a fan of it? You know, you're still trying to be you're still trying to be who you're a fan of.

Chuck Shute: 27:56

Yeah, that's awesome. So that big breakthrough album The Devil Without a Cause. You co wrote the song cowboy, which is a great song huge hit. What was your contribution? Because looks like there's four songwriters on that song. Is it just like, you gotta Sauron credits just like if you change a lyric or something, or did you have more of a bigger role in that?

Jimmie Bones: 28:15

Go in the center of the song is a honky tonk piano break. And they had me play that and they say, alright, come up with a break down here. It's got to be like, eight bars or four bars or something. So just, you know, I had this I had a tack piano it was played on a on a digital piano that had some, you know, like, like Honky Tonk tag piano samples in it. But just I started messing around with something. I'm like, Alright, let's try this. How's this on? And, you know, they liked it, fit it in? And they said, Okay, you get a credit for it.

Chuck Shute: 28:56

Wow. Did you when you think when you were recording that album, do you? Did you think that was going to be this huge breakthrough album at the time? Or you have no, I always feel like people have no idea when stuff blows up.

Jimmie Bones: 29:08

I always, I always had a really good feeling that that Bob was going to do something at some point. When I was still with Robert Bradley, I asked him and you know, like, hey, why don't you know I do. So what happened? We were we shared a rehearsal place. And, and I would show up early for rehearsal, and fire up my rig. And then I just started jamming with his band, you know, then he asked me after it was like, Hey, can you jump in on some shows if you're not on the road with Robert so yeah, sure. And, and, and I, you know, played the first show, and he had sold out the State Theater, which is the Fillmore now in Detroit. He was the filmer name. And that's like 2800 people. I'm like, oh my god, man, and he's got You know, Pyro stuff going on. And, of course, we were doing it all, you know, no license or very illegally in Africa. Just doing it, you know. And, and I'm like, this is like, going to see kiss or something in the 70s. Because nobody was really using a whole lot of Pyro at that, that point time, you know, at least at that level. And I'm like, why don't you sign try and sign with a major? It's like, I don't know, I'm just, I'm moving like 50,000 records out of my basement. I don't use, you know, making. So

Chuck Shute: 30:41

locally, he was already a big star like, yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 30:45

he was he was very well known more than locally, you know, regionally because we used to go down to Ohio, Chicago, we would go out to Chicago in play, you know? Yeah. But I think it just got to a point where people started hearing about him and pretty soon, Jimmy Ivy's coming out from Interscope and Jason Flom is coming out from lava Atlantic Records and it turned into somewhat of a bidding war I suppose. Oh,

Chuck Shute: 31:19

really? Did it did Jason Flom sign him the JSON file? And that's an interesting guy. He's got a now he does like, like advocate work, I think. Oh,

Jimmie Bones: 31:29

yeah. Yeah, he's definitely guys that are that are wrongfully wrongfully or, you know, what he he can prove it's if they're wrongfully convicted and getting guys released from prison that that, you know, were perhaps convicted and should not have been. So that's

Chuck Shute: 31:51

very admirable. Yeah, he was really good record executive to I think,

Jimmie Bones: 31:56

by ward. He signed Twisted Sister. Yeah. And he started in the mailroom.

Chuck Shute: 32:03

So why did he So did he end up signing? Kid rocker? The other labels outbid? No, no, no, Jason Flom? Yeah. So then the rest is history. Do you ever think, to like, what if you turn Kid Rock down and didn't and said, No, I'm stuck with Robert Bradley. Or if he didn't ask you to join? Or you just like, What do you? I mean, because you had been in so many other bands? Do you think you would have caught another break eventually?

Jimmie Bones: 32:34

Well, you know, that's, that's interesting that you ask that because right at about the time that things were starting to roll, and I had already been through my time with Robert Bradley. And, and what happened was,

Chuck Shute: 32:52

you know,

Jimmie Bones: 32:53

they're like, A, we, we lost our tour support. So all we can do is pay a per diem Road, be out on the road for three weeks, I had a different reality, you know, already, family and everything, you know, mouths to feed somewhat, you know, like that sort of thing. And I, and I said, Well, I can't do it. And Bob said, right after that kid said, All right, well, you're in my bed. wasn't signed yet. So I kind of, let's say put the ball in his court, but I wanted to give him the courtesy of Look, man, I don't want to be a burden this thing. And you know what my realities are in everything. And I, you know, not bad. I didn't feel like he was going to make it. But I just said, I don't want to be a weight on this. If you want to find somebody that's a little younger, doesn't have any responsibilities that you ate out of this man. You're you're my guy. You ain't going anywhere. Sticking with this. Wow.

Chuck Shute: 34:00

He's so loyal. Because you've been you've been with him for what? Like 20 plus years, 25 years or something like that? 20

Jimmie Bones: 34:06

Yeah, probably about 2527 years something. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 34:11

And you're the you're the only one of the band that started that still. I mean, Kenny was there for a long time. And then Kenny left for a side project or whatever. But everyone else has kind of come in and come and gone and you stayed? No.

Jimmie Bones: 34:25

Jason Krause has been there from the beginning. Oh, has it? Yeah. Yeah. Jason has been there from the beginning along with me. And and although she didn't play on the first record, Stephanie eulenburg has been there from from the very beginning. What happened with her was we record the devil without a cause. And we're getting ready to go tour, you know, rehearsing this band and everything and you Bob was hired by the Beastie Boys to deejay, their Christmas party. And the grand royal Christmas party. They had him coming into New York City to do that he was find a drummer while I'm gone, like Okay, so we had another guy lined up. And I guess that this would have been his maybe his Pete Best moment because we had lined up. And Bob comes back and he had been talking to backs DJ hurricane, who was from Cleveland, along with Stephanie. And you got to check this girl out. So Bob gets in touch with their sons through the tracks. The two tracks that were double A lot of cars that ended up getting the deal approving the deal, which were I got one for you. And somebody's got to feel this. And she not only, you know, sends it tape back, she sends a full video back. And we're like watching her play and looking at her ever like all right, who's gonna call the other guy told me I wasn't good again.

Chuck Shute: 36:15

She's that good? Oh, yeah.

Jimmie Bones: 36:17

Oh my god. Well, she plays bass. She plays guitar sings You know. So Stephanie's been there. So for for the longest time. And then then after that Aaron Julius and joined a few years later on down the road, on

Chuck Shute: 36:33

bass and you have some you have some female vocalists and the twist

Jimmie Bones: 36:37

females in and one guy vocalist Shannon Curfman. And Kat Perkins and then Herschel Boone, who's also tour with Mary J. Blige does

Chuck Shute: 36:49

one of see how do you because when the song picture I mean, obviously Sheryl Crow, is the CO vocalist on the recorded version. So do you use do somebody in the band as the in the duet or do you have a gun?

Jimmie Bones: 37:01

At mostly sings at a low Shannon has done it. And for the longest time before we started bringing extra vocalists out because me Stephanie and Aaron Julius and also do backing vocals. Stephanie was doing the duet part. And she plays the drums and does a really killer job of it, too.

Chuck Shute: 37:24

She sings while she plays the drums. Oh, yeah. That's always so amazing to me. Have you ever seen somebody? I mean, there's a few people that can do it. That can sing lead vocals while they play the drums. It's pretty amazing.

Jimmie Bones: 37:36

Well, so Collins is pretty good. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 37:39

I had a dean caster know who plays with journey. And he sounds like Steve Perry. It's weird that he's like the drummer. But he can. Steve Perry. It's crazy.

Jimmie Bones: 37:51

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What I mean, because that's when you think of it there's there's a lot going on with drums, you know, percussively you know, not, not far from piano pianos. Not as much but man, your drumming in itself is a workout.

Chuck Shute: 38:09

Right? It's such a different because I feel like we're trying to sing

Jimmie Bones: 38:12

and dance and everything else too.

Chuck Shute: 38:15

Yeah, because like singing with piano and guitar. It's kind of a lot of this. I mean, it's kind of the same notes are matching with the vocals, but drums is like you're doing the rhythm, and then singing notes. It's like, It seems so. Well. There's a

Jimmie Bones: 38:29

lot of syncopation involved and you know, you're singing in between beats and, you know, yeah,

Chuck Shute: 38:36

it musicians just amaze me. That's why I mean, I look at you and you say, like, oh, well, I look at other people, but like for me, like, I mean, I'm always amazed by anybody who can play music Well, because I suck that. I mean, I want it to be good, but it's just like, I got no I can't I can't do this stuff. Like people like you are just like, blown me away. I'm like, wow, like that. You should you know, do you ever tour with your solo band?

Jimmie Bones: 38:59

Um, not so much touring, but I do gigs. I've got some shows lined up for later on in the summer. And then I've got I've got solo hits and everything to where, you know, Danny's Lusco called me one day and and he had me come down and and open for Gordon Lightfoot in Detroit, just completely solo, playing piano and singing my stop doing a 40 minutes or so. And this would have been the last appearance of Gord two appearances of Gordon's life in Detroit. Oh, wow. Why don't we go that phone rings one day, and? And it's it's Kirk Gibson? You know, Detroit Tigers, Los Angeles Dodgers legend

Chuck Shute: 39:47

baseball player. Yeah. Yeah. Then

Jimmie Bones: 39:49

he managed the Arizona Diamondbacks, you know, from from a very bad team to a winning team, you know, but yeah, Kirk's perks of Have a pal. And he's like, hey, you know Danny's Alesco. And I says, I don't know him personally, I know of him. He's like, he's looking for somebody to open for Gordon Lightfoot. And I say get bones. Like, yeah, tell him to call me. So that was awesome. That was a huge honor.

Chuck Shute: 40:17

Yeah, if you open for other national acts to Yeah.

Jimmie Bones: 40:22

I've opened for Pat Benatar and Neil Geraldo. I kind of got dragged kicking and screaming to do one was kind of funny because a friend of mine calls me up. And it's there's a place in Grand Rapids, Michigan called the Meijer Gardens amphitheater. They have everybody in there that I was on tour. They wanted me to come and open for for Joe Jackson. And I was we had a date. But that's where I did the show with with Pat Benatar and Neil Geraldo. But the first one I ever did, my buddy calls up that and he's like, hey, they need you to come and open for somebody, you know, like, it's sold out show you got to do it. And I'm like, Who? He's air supply. And I'm like, Get out of here. No way, man. No, what that is so far from what I do it just No, seriously, go do it. It's sold out. I couldn't have been more wrong. I went they loved what I did. You know, I didn't bury anything. I just played what I do. Everybody ate it up. I sold out all of my merch, you know, and I'm standing back at the merch table. And you know, and I wasn't really an air supply fan. But, you know, they didn't really fit with what I was a huge fan of and everything. But then I'm listening to all the sons of like, that was a, that was a hit. You cannot deny great music, you know? And it's funny, because then you, you revisit it, maybe later on, you're like, Wow, you really start to appreciate some things that maybe you didn't, you didn't really care for so much when you were younger. Right?

Chuck Shute: 42:07

Well, there's a lot of songs like that from the 80s that I think were good songs. And they were well written songs, but it was just the production maybe and some of the

Jimmie Bones: 42:15

positive or whatever, you know, where you know where it's coming

Unknown: 42:20

from? Yeah, but it's

Jimmie Bones: 42:23

a good song is a good sign. It doesn't matter. There's some great songs that are full on pop production that were probably just, you know, written as a singing around the campfire with a with a acoustic guitar.

Chuck Shute: 42:38

Yeah, well, even like you think of like Fleetwood Mac in the 80s. Or like, I had an Wilson on from heart. That was cool. Like she butthurt she does, she hates her 80s music. But if you listen to those songs, you can tell they're well written. It's just, you know, it's the production and the end of the very, that's like timely, you know, because it sounds like the 80s

Jimmie Bones: 42:58

Yeah, yeah. And it's not really the song as much as the production. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 43:06

And I think for hearts, the reason she wasn't like, I think some of those songs, they didn't write them, you know, it was like, they brought in an outside songwriter, and they're like, here's sing this and I'm like, Okay, we'll do the song. That's not really our song, but it was a big hit. So I don't know. Right,

Jimmie Bones: 43:21

right. Yeah, that and that happens, you know, you bring in an outside writer, you know, even somebody like cheap trick, you know, and, you know, they write a lot of their stuff, but maybe something that's a little bit more like, like, the flame. I don't know if they wrote it or not, but I'm like, a template question. Okay, did this is a huge hit. And I love that song. And I'll listen to it on loop over and over.

Chuck Shute: 43:47

Now, I gotta look that up, because that's gonna bug me. I feel like they did write that one. But that'd be interesting to think.

Jimmie Bones: 43:53

You know what, I wouldn't doubt it because those guys are such great songwriters. And can cross genres from hard rock to just great. You know, pop mega ballads, you know?

Chuck Shute: 44:10

Yeah, it'd be amazing if they did it. Because there's such I feel like they could write for other artists, rather than have someone else write for them.

Jimmie Bones: 44:19

Yeah, yeah. One of the best episodes I saw of live from derelict houses when they had cheap trick when they had written Nielsen. Robin Zander

Chuck Shute: 44:30

Oh, yeah, that's a great I've been trying to get his voice

Jimmie Bones: 44:34

is, is hands down. One of the great top I would say top 10 greatest rock and roll voices ever. Definitely.

Chuck Shute: 44:45

Okay, now I looked it up. Holy cow. You're right. Like it wasn't written by that. It was written by Bob Mitchell and Nick Graham. Okay. So they just gave somebody they bought the song. That's good to know. But yeah, it's weird. because they write so many hits and so many well polished pop songs why would they need an outside song?

Jimmie Bones: 45:07

You know same with Aerosmith with with your My angel or or the scene from Armageddon those were written by Diane Warren

Chuck Shute: 45:20

right and I had Desmond Child on and he wrote he wrote with Bon Jovi and Aerosmith some of their biggest the biggest hits like living on a prayer and the Aerosmith dude looks like a lady. He helped write that song so but that's like a co right so that's a little bit different. But yeah, yeah, this kid because Kid Rock has used his co writers to write um, yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 45:44

I've you know, co written with him Marlon young our guitar player co writes with him a lot. And let's see. First kiss that's that was with Marlon and Bob. American rock and roll was written. Although Bob, you know, he changed a lot of the lyrics and everything more to fit, you know, adjust making adjustments and everything that was written by a kid and in, in Michigan.

Chuck Shute: 46:17

Oh, really? Yeah. And like, essentially in the song picture with Sheryl Crow, you think that he would have co wrote that with her? She's such a shredder on songs because her songs are amazing. But he

Jimmie Bones: 46:30

No, they did write that together. I was in. Cheryl came out to the studio. And it was right when Bob first opened is the studio that we did Kochi and the self titled record and and let's see. Rock and roll Jesus was recorded there. And this is in Michigan, but Cheryl came out for for three days. And we're in the studio and they wrote picture together. You know, we tracked it.

Chuck Shute: 47:06

How did that song writing worlds or

Jimmie Bones: 47:09

I played Wurlitzer and B three on it. And then the the finger snaps in it. That's all of the Detroit Redwings from you know, Sergei feta. And actually is his lady at the time. Anna Kournikova the tennis player. She was there, and they were doing all the finger steps.

Chuck Shute: 47:31

Oh, yeah. She's Anna Kournikova. Yeah, I used to have a crush on her. She was beautiful. So Cheryl, Corona, and Kid Rock just hanging out just writing a song that's so weird to think of goes

Jimmie Bones: 47:43

out the studio. He's like, come on down. I gotta check out my new studio. And, you know, we spent like three days in there and run off to LA was another one that was was written during that time.

Chuck Shute: 47:57

It's gotta be cool to be a fly on the wall and see some of that stuff happening.

Jimmie Bones: 48:02

Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's work definitely work. But then there's also a lot of fun stuff, you know, that we used to. We just spend days in air and all sudden, we everybody's got their kids there and all sudden we're out playing baseball out in the, because that was like 12 acres.

Chuck Shute: 48:23

The studio? Yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 48:25

the land that it was, you know, because there was a barn. You know, you had an area that was kind of yet formed into a baseball diamond. We're out there with all the kids playing baseball or doing whatever, you know. So rock is pretty cool trampoline.

Chuck Shute: 48:47

Is Kid Rock, like as a boss? Like, is he pretty? Is he like work really long hours and put all the time in? Or is there just a lot of fun in between? Or how does that work? Bob

Jimmie Bones: 48:57

is definitely Bob's work ethic is incredible. You know? You know, you'll get emails from him. He's already up at like five o'clock in the morning and all sudden, he's thinking, you know, he's like a guy that that, that gets up and reads a bunch of newspapers and watches everything that's going on before he gets into his day, you know, and his mind is always working. The wheels are always turning. And let's see what we can do now. He's

Chuck Shute: 49:33

so yeah, he is kind of involved in the news and in politics. What are your thoughts on that as a as a band like because you're part of the band is like you support him in his political conquests or views or whatever? Are you kind of like, I'm just gonna stay on the sidelines on this. But

Jimmie Bones: 49:50

I don't really say a whole lot about politics. I have my views on everything. They definitely align more in his direction, but it's Only because we've, you know, and just like any walk of life, or the office or the neighborhood are banned, we've got people that are coming in from all directions, you know? So, you know, he's, he's very passionate about it. He's not. He's, he's informed about it. And, you know, I would have to say that Bob is pretty, he likes what works. Put it that way. Let's say he likes whatever works, you know. And if you feel something and and even if it might not agree with where, where he lives, what side of the aisle he's on, if he thinks it's going to work, he's like, Okay, let's see. Let's give it a try. You know, do you

Chuck Shute: 50:49

have those kinds of conversations? You guys have deep just not even maybe political, but necessarily, like, life philosophy, kind of constant conversations with each other?

Jimmie Bones: 50:58

I'm not really not not. It's pretty pretty musical for as far as me. You know, he has he has those conversations maybe with with probably Marlon, I would say or, you know, but we never really get get too deep into that. We keep it pretty light.

Chuck Shute: 51:23

Do you ever go to his uh, his house is so fascinating to me. Like, it's kind of like a it's like a White House. Right? It's like it's got that looks like the

Jimmie Bones: 51:32

White House. Yeah, it's that Georgian design. And beautiful on it overlooks is it's up on a bluff. And then you look and it's probably about five miles off, you just see the whole Nashville skyline. You know. So he's, yeah, he's up on the hill. And it's funny, because when you're taking the roads in, you can see it, you know, roads kind of winding dirt road, and you can see the house up there and everything. So we were there and up there. Oh, yeah. We went last year. Right. Right before? Want to say right before? No, the year before, right before Thanksgiving. He just wanted to kind of get the band together. Let's have dinner. I want to lay out what's going to be going on next year and everything kind of let us know. And and we had a good dinner and then went downstairs and you know, had a little party and got a bowling alley in the basement. We're now near bowling and you know, I was a fun guy.

Chuck Shute: 52:38

That sounds amazing. Yeah. Is there a lot of special guests coming over to like famous people and stuff? Oh, yeah.

Jimmie Bones: 52:44

From time to time? Yes, of course. He's got a lot of he's got a lot of famous friends. He's got the hockey talk right there in Nashville. So he shows up there. You know.

Chuck Shute: 52:58

That is a fun place. Yeah, like Nash. I'd never been to Nashville until the NFL draft a few years ago. And it was so crazy. And I was like, Is it like this every weekend? And people were like, yeah, that's pretty much like definitely changed.

Jimmie Bones: 53:12

You know, back when we first started touring, and it was more of what the old Nashville used to be. And I think it had, I think it had more of a charm that that people appreciated more, we would do the River Fest there. And it was right off the street. But you know, right up the street, the road from the Grand Ole Opry, the Ryman Auditorium, and all of that hat show permanence and a lot of those different things. And and I think now it's turned into way more of a tourist thing. Like let's say it's like Mardi Gras, you're around. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 53:53

and really like the Broadway but if you go to like printers alley or some of the code, the strip stuff, I feel like that's more genuine. Yeah, definitely, definitely. But it's amazing how many musicians and good music and people think like, oh, Nashville, it's all country. I'm like, No, it's not. It's rock. It's country. It's pop, there's DJ. I mean, it's every cut blues. There's every kind of music that you can find. It's amazing.

Jimmie Bones: 54:19

And there's people there that are, you know, dry and towel drying cars at the at the carwash that can play 10 times better than some people that are out on the road. You know what I mean?

Chuck Shute: 54:36

Well, yeah, I mean, I remember we're like I said, we're there for the NFL Draft. And I remember it was so crazy on Broadway. I thought I thought we're gonna get trampled. There was so many people. So we just, we'd like go, let's just go in here. Let's go in the store. So we go in this like store and it's like they're selling NFL gear or whatever. And some girl just takes out her guitar. And you know, all this. I'm like, oh, there's gonna be live music in the store. This is so weird. And she starts playing She's amazing. I mean, she's doing covers granted, but she's killing it. And she's just this girl with a guitar playing for tips. And she was amazing, right? Yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 55:09

yeah, those are you walk around like that and you you witness stuff like that and somebody that's 15 years old and you're just like, alright, I give up.

Chuck Shute: 55:19

I mean, that's just so what's so amazing to me about music though. There's just so many people that are that are good at it. I wish I had any talent. I mean, I think that's just amazing with anybody. I mean, I see people around here live, I go to this. We have this little place called what is it called Bell's Nashville kitchen and they they have wide music all the time. And I will see so many great live musicians. In fact, Bruce Springsteen just popped in the other day at that place. I was like, thinking that I wish I was there.

Jimmie Bones: 55:46

Yeah, you have moments like that.

Chuck Shute: 55:50

It's you ever run into the boss?

Jimmie Bones: 55:52

I have not. No, I never had. Never. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 55:56

you guys have done so many. I mean, you've toured with almost everybody Metallica and Lynyrd Skynyrd. And

Jimmie Bones: 56:03

we did. Let's see, we we did a tour of Metallica. We started actually at the Pontiac Silverdome. 19 New Year's Eve 1999 Going into the new millennium. So and then we went out on the road with Metallica, that was the first show of the winter tour. And that was all that was all arenas. And that went really well. And after that we did the summer Sanitarium tour with them which was Metallica, corn pit rock system of it down and Powerman 5000 Wow,

Chuck Shute: 56:43

that's an all star lineup. What was it like hanging out with those guys? Oh

Jimmie Bones: 56:47

my god. That was such a fun tour because it was all at speedway's and. And major major football stadiums. We played Dallas stadium we we played played all the NASCAR speedway's and everything.

Chuck Shute: 57:04

Now see that would be dangerous. That's why I think it's maybe it's good thing. I don't have any musical talent. Because if you put me on a tour with like all these huge rock bands, and they're all like probably, this is back when Metallica was like drinking and stuff. Right. And I know Kid Rock was drinking. So like, I don't know if I would have made it out of that. Yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 57:23

we there was we had some long nights and some. But but it was day on day off and that and that was a lot of fun. No, it was Yeah. And yeah, you're right. It's dangerous. I was going around a NASCAR track on a go car, which was essentially a bar stool. And I really fat wheels with a motor underneath the seat, and the throttle was under my seat and I'm pulling up on the throttle. So no steering at all. You're just following the track and you just get going and it's a barstool and probably get going about maybe 25 miles an hour, which you know, that's pretty good clip on a barstool. I suppose.

Chuck Shute: 58:10

That sounds amazing. And now so you guys have a tour bank turns. You're touring with Jason ElDeen, right?

Jimmie Bones: 58:18

Yeah, what this is that we're currently doing. It's the rack America tour. And they're all Friday and Saturday night to day festivals. And we had line one night, either Friday or Saturday. Jason LD made headlines the other night. So and then we have openers like Miranda Lambert, Travis tritt. Hank Williams, Jr. Randy. Randy Houser. We're going to have Leonard Skinner is going to be out on some of them with us. This last week we we were in Ashe, Ashland, Kentucky. And the openers for us were Nelly and and Oh, shoot. country artist who opened for us last Saturday. Got to ask my no not Nellie. Oh, Brantley Gilbert. That's what it was. Okay.

Chuck Shute: 59:25

Wow. Yeah, that's got blue. Nelly the rapper opened.

Jimmie Bones: 59:28

Yeah. Okay. And so they're like 35,000 people that the shows and I mean ever eaten it up? They were loving Nelly.

Chuck Shute: 59:40

Yeah, no, he was Thanksgiving or was it Super Bowl or so he played he played some one of the football games and well, we were so

Jimmie Bones: 59:50

that was the Super Bowl now with us and that we performed and that was the the infamous wardrobe malfunction.

Chuck Shute: 1:00:00

Between remind me again what happened between

Jimmie Bones: 1:00:03

Janet Jackson. And yo, that girl malfunction at the Superbowl half. You guys were there for that? Yeah, Nellie was on it.

Chuck Shute: 1:00:15

Yes. Oh, that was yeah, that was like the one time. So ever since then now I make sure to watch the halftime shows because I never watched them before. So I thought they were so boring. And then everyone was talking about it now. Yeah. Yeah, they made they made them a lot more interesting as much

Jimmie Bones: 1:00:33

hype on the on the halftime show. No. There's some sort of, there's probably bets on something having to do with a show in Vegas, you know? Oh, it's always gonna show up. Or if something Yeah, somebody's pants are gonna fall down. Yeah. Well, the will.

Chuck Shute: 1:00:51

Is there going to be a bear tip this year? And what's the over under on that? Like? Yeah, what's

Jimmie Bones: 1:00:56

the over under on a wardrobe? Milkbone. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 1:00:59

I love all those crazy. Do you do the sports betting at all?

Jimmie Bones: 1:01:02

I don't my wife does. She does quite well. Oh. My wife has a mind like a like an NFL GM. She's really seriously. Yeah, she follows it. And yeah, she's she's a whole nother love. Art. And

Chuck Shute: 1:01:19

are you into sports, too?

Jimmie Bones: 1:01:20

I'm definitely into sports. I just I'm not a gambler. So gotcha.

Chuck Shute: 1:01:25

Gotcha. So what do you do with your downtime? It's got to be a lot easier now. With phones and technology. Like back in the day, when you had to bring like a VCR or something now, I mean, you can watch so many movies on YouTube and Netflix and read books. And I mean, there's a million things to do, right? Oh,

Jimmie Bones: 1:01:41

yeah, absolutely. Well, you're talking about downtime on the road or don't Yeah, cars on the road. I'm

Chuck Shute: 1:01:48

saying like, isn't that that was a big problem that sounded to me, from talking to musicians was like, that was a big thing, why a lot of them fall into drinking and drugs and drugs and stuff. Because they'd be on the road. And they'd be in these hotel rooms, and they'd be lonely or bored or and they would just like, what else can I do? You know, and so they would turn to that kind of stuff. But now

Jimmie Bones: 1:02:06

the road in the hazards of boredom and everything, you know?

Chuck Shute: 1:02:09

But now it's like, there's so many other things you can you can do.

Jimmie Bones: 1:02:13

Yeah, well, and right now, the way we're touring, I'm leaving the day of the show. We do the show I jump. We jump right back into the jet and we're home on this one. But But yeah, when we're out for long periods of time, I mean, you know, I like to go out for a good dinner and have some drinks and everything and and see what's going on. I definitely look at the culture of certain areas or, you know, trying to see what's what's very interesting. Wait, you said

Chuck Shute: 1:02:45

this Kid Rock have his own private jet. You don't have to worry to fly commercial zone

Jimmie Bones: 1:02:49

and then all of the band members from Detroit, they've got another jet that flies us in and out.

Chuck Shute: 1:02:56

That's so nice. That's the one thing like I always say if I was rich, because I've eaten at fancy restaurants, I've stayed in nice hotel villa. And that's that's nice, but I hate flying commercial with an absolute passion. I would love. That's the biggest thing to me about being a billionaire is like I'd have a private jet for sure. I would not fly. I hate it. Yeah,

Jimmie Bones: 1:03:16

definitely. It's, it's nice. You know, it definitely you know, you're not going through security. It's, you know, flying is a rat race. And you're kind of at the mercy of the airlines and everything else that's going.

Chuck Shute: 1:03:29

Yeah, I like I had a Bret Michaels guitar player. And he's like, he's always jokes. He's like, Yeah, it's nice, but it always worries me too. He's like, I always tell the pilot don't make me famous. You know, like, he doesn't want to correct. Exactly, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Well, awesome. Thank you so much for doing this. Anything else you want to promote? Do you have any new Muse I know you had that album, Snake Pit and wandering in 2017. That

Jimmie Bones: 1:03:54

was 2017. And then, in at the beginning of 2000, I released a couple of things that were singles song called bittersweet. And, and then another song called through hell, for heaven's sake. And those are on my YouTube channel. And, you know, they're on iTunes and Spotify and everything else too. And you can buy him direct digitally from me. And then, just the last couple of years, I was asked to do something that I'm really proud of. It was a project that that generated money. And it featured the Detroit youth choir. If you're familiar with them. They were they won. They won on America's Got Talent. Oh, got the golden ticket, but it's all it's all. inner city kids big gospel choir, and they're amazing. Yeah, just really, really a great group of kids in inquiry. credible singers but they wanted to do a record. There's a and and Jack Douglas produced it who you know, produced probably about the first four or five Aerosmith records and he produced Double Fantasy John Lennon and Yoko Ono. Discover a cheap trick and produce them their first four records. And, you know, a lot of stuff. He produced the record he brought me. Garrett Blahnik, my guitar player who also played on the last couple of Alice Cooper things, Detroit stories and biscuits. Johnny BB Danzig was on drums for that. And Paul Randolph was on bass who, who has done a lot of work with AMP fiddler, the late amp fiddler and, you know, great Detroit bass player but, but we did a project of all songs that we like we did as by Stevie Wonder, we did feel it all right. You know, the Joe Cocker saw. Gosh, what else did we do? All You Need Is Love by the Beatles went in and record are with these kids singing and we did all the music for it. And the proceeds all generate money for hospitalized children to provide them with with musical instruments and music therapy. And that's through the dick Wagner. Remember the child fun?

Chuck Shute: 1:06:31

Oh, that's awesome. I love that kind of stuff. That's great when people give it. So

Jimmie Bones: 1:06:35

it ended up being considered for about six Grammys, we didn't win them. But you know, the project did real well. It's called Rock spell. Okay, you know, and yeah, you can get that on iTunes, you can get it? Everywhere. Pretty much.

Chuck Shute: 1:06:52

What about whatever happened to the side project you did with Kenny Olson, I think was called lectric. Olson was that released? Care electric.

Jimmie Bones: 1:06:59

And I'm on. I'm on just the one track. Okay. Aaron wrote about his gal who was who was killed by a drunk driver, Willow. And I played piano on that. Did some string work and stuff like that? Awesome. I keep in touch. And you know, we we've done other things in the past and live events and whatnot. Yeah, he's always saying Come on. We got to do this, you know, and it just, it never comes around sometimes. Yeah,

Chuck Shute: 1:07:36

no, he's a great guy. That's cool. You're doing shows. Let me know if you ever come to Arizona, either with Kid Rock or if you did, I think would be cool to see you do a solo show. Like there's a place here. I forget what it's called. There's a charge got the blues. I think that's the the youth imperfect. You bring your solo band. I think that would be really fun to see. I

Jimmie Bones: 1:07:55

loved it. Yeah. Tell me. Yeah. Give me a link to it.

Chuck Shute: 1:08:01

All right. Awesome. Well, dude, thanks so much for doing this, Jimmy.

Jimmie Bones: 1:08:04

All right. Thanks for Thanks for inviting.

Chuck Shute: 1:08:07

Yep, I'll be in touch