Troy Patrick Farrell (Gilby Clarke, ex White Lion)

Episode 20 - Drummer Troy Patrick Farrell 

00:00 - Intro

02:02 - Troy's Name and Connections

03:47 - Griffith, Indiana 

04:56 - Musical Background

05:40 - Motley Crue

07:30 - Neil Peart from Rush

09:02 - Moving to Los Angeles 

10:15 - Diggity Dave and the Old Days

11:05 - Filthy McNasty and FM Station

13:30 - Axl Rose, Sebastian Bach & The King of India

18:25 - Drumming Sound

20:25 - Zoltan Chaney

21:41 - Playing Zeppelin with John Corabi and Vince Neil

23:05 - John Corabi's Crue Album

24:50 - Gilby Clarke 

25:30 - C.C. Deville (Poison) 

26:47 - Jani Lane (Warrant) 

33:00 - Mike Tramp and White Lion 

37:56 - The Lost Angels 

41:02 - Cheap Thrill 

41:30 - Gilby Clarke Show in AZ Cancelled 

43:35 - Fight with Kristy Majors of Pretty Boy Floyd

45:25 - Booking Shows and Being a Tour Manager

46:55 - Bobby Blotzer and Don Dokken

47:50 - Dead Clubs T Shirt Business 

48:30 - This, That and The Other Radio Show 

49:45 - Softball for Fun

50:26 - Justa Center and Animal Rescue

51:35 - Future Plans for Lost Angels and Gilby Clarke

52:23 - Wrap Up

Troy Patrick Farrell Instagram: 
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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:29

[inaudible]

Chuck Shute: 0:29

welcome to the Chuck shoot podcast. Wow, I'm excited today. This was a really fun interview with Troy Patrick feral. Um, sometimes you just, you interview somebody and you guys just click and it just happens and it feels so natural. And that's how this interview was. There was not a lot of, uh, dead pauses or stumbling or nervousness on my end. Um, he just made me feel really natural and at ease and, um, you know, it's just, he's just a good storyteller. So he just made my job really easy. Um, I had some, you know, decent questions, but he just took the reigns and had some great stories. Um, if you are a fan of the eighties bands, the 80s metal bands, you're gonna love this. This is quite a treat. Um, and if you're not a fan of eighties metal bands, you might become one after listening to this interview because I feel like the stories are so good. And, um, some of the, any talks not only about the bands he's been in like white lion and pretty boy Floyd and some of these lesser known, lesser known bands. But some of the bigger stars of those days like guns and roses, his interactions with them and Sebastian Bach from skid row and Tommy Lee from Motley crew. And so, um, I think and his opinions on, um, some of the bigger names of the, of the era. So I think you guys will enjoy this one I really enjoyed is probably one of my favorite episodes to date. And um, I think there'll be a lot of stories to that will get passed around. Maybe some, some articles on sleaze. Rocks, I'm guessing is, uh, was going to happen from this interview. So enjoy this one with Troy Patrick Farrell. Okay. Here we are.[inaudible]

Troy Farrell: 2:03

I live in Phoenix, Arizona with Troy Patrick, Pharaoh, Pharaoh, Farell hobbies, how would you say arrow? Yeah. Okay. Is that Irish name?

: 2:10

It is Irish shit. Back in the day before I was a, a sparkle in my mother's eye, uh, way, way back. It was O'Farrell and throughout generations the Oh, got dropped. But yeah, full on Irish. That's awesome. Yeah. My grandpa was a hundred percent Irish. So little connection there. And they also have a mutual connection. Brandon Gibbs. I interviewed him and yeah, with him tonight and then she throw, did you play with Donnie vie? I interviewed him as well. Johnny V back in. Okay. So I grew up in Chicago. Huge enough's enough fan. And I was sort of, you know, where my brother's, uh, generation was cheap trick. My generation was enough's enough. And uh, you know, we were just outside of South side of Chicago, blue Island, which is where they're from in Northwest Indiana.

Troy Farrell: 2:52

And so I grew up playing the thirsty whale and going to see, you know, Donnie V enough's enough. All those bands back in the day. And just through connections, I said, ah, this is back in God, I want to say early two thousands, maybe even 90, late nineties. I said, Hey bro, you need to get out of that apartment and, and let's go do some shows. And so we did, we did some live shows back in the Midwest. Many be out 20 years ago. So yeah. So I played with Donnie VI, tracked on his album just enough attract about three tunes on there. And then I played in enough's enough with chip and Johnny Monaco as well. Cause recently is 2016 have you heard the new Donny V album? I have, yeah. Beautiful things. He's a genius. He's just meant to do that. Definitely. I think it's helped that he's cleaned up, you know, so that he's could just focus strictly on that and not be distracted with, yeah, I'll drink to that. So, but you were technically raised in a Griffith, Indiana, right? If it's Indiana, I'm a clodhopper. Yeah. Did you ever like the line from the Christmas thing? Exactly. Did you ever play on the old Sherman tanks in the park there? My buddy lives there, actually. He lives in Griffith and he said there's like these old Sherman tanks he can play on. Yes. So my very first gig was at the, at, at central park, which was downtown Griffith and there's a huge tank there. That was my first gig. It was a battle of the bands and a wow. And I used to climb on that tank. Did you ever go to a Billy O's bill? What does it Billy Oh, dynamite music shop. I have been there. I have been there. It's right downtown, right across from the police station, which I, you know, been in and or out twice, you know, give or take. And uh, but yeah, it's a downtown Griffiths is a cool, very quaint, you know, 20,000 people. My mom still lives in the same house that I was, uh, born and bred in. So it's shot. Been there cause he's the basis for survivor or he was, yes, yes. Uh, you know, I want to say maybe a half a dozen years to 10 years. Yeah, I think for a little bit. Cool. But I've been in there, it's got a lot of cool, weird botique stuff and trippy, you know. Cool. It's one of those places you go in and you find a diamond in the rough. Nice. So you started playing the drums at age 12. It was after a Dio concert and then your brother played bass and the other brother play guitar. So did you guys start a band together? Never started a band together. And it took a long time for me to actually jam with my brother Sean, who still plays bass to this day. My brother Scott was playing in the guitar in the school band, so, you know, they'd have a performance or a play or whatever, and he would be playing guitar. He was meant to be a chef and that's the route he took. And, uh, my brother Sean still plays bass and gigs out, you know, still has the dude, you know, he and I kind of look like, you know, look like women. So that's cool. Do you play any other instruments besides the drums? I, I haven't, you know, I, I don't, I don't, I do back and go. Yeah. You know, for better, for worse, I do sing a little bit. Okay. So, yeah, you're a big enough's enough fan. A cheap trick was a big influence. Your big Motley crew and Tommy Lee fan. So what do you think of the resurgence of popularity, Motley Crue now with that movie, the dirt and now the new tour? Well, I gotta tell ya, um, I wasn't a big fan of the movie really? Yeah. It just, huh. It didn't really like blow my mind, you know. Um, but you know, I toured with, with crew and a band called the Raskins and Alice Cooper in 2014 the start of the final tour, it was a two year tour, 24, 2014 and 2015 I did 60 dates with the Raskins opening up for Motley crew and Alice Cooper. And that was awesome. Playing arenas, stadiums every night. Um, huge outdoor places. Jones beach, uh, the Hollywood bowl, uh, Madison square garden, we, you know, uh, Joe Louis arena in Detroit. So we played some great, you know, it's a great experience. And um, I think they, they ended as they should. And you know what? I know that they signed the contract and they, you know, whatever, but listen, if you're meant to play rock and roll and go out and do it, if nobody cared and nobody were going to buy tickets, then it wouldn't matter. But people are buying tickets and they want to go see him. So why not, you know, let them go out there and play. Yeah, no, and I hear they're all in working with Trey. Even Vince is working with a trainer and Nikki Sixx as he's kicking ass. Yeah, I know. I'm kind of excited. I think, I think if anything, it's a good motivation for him to be healthier because it looked like he was on an unhealthy path and, and even, uh, you know, didn't even look like he was overweight, but it looked like he probably was ill from the inside, you know, like something's going on, you know, and you know, when you're drinking and you're out there not sleeping and not taking care of yourself and you get older, right. I've been doing it for 30 years. It catches up to you. So if anything, this could be a new lease on life for, for those guys, you know, getting their shit together and, and, uh, going out there and rocking again. I think they have a lot to prove. They can't go out there and stink. You're going to have to be good. So kickass. I'm sure there's big news. This happened yesterday. Uh, Neil Peart died. Was he an influence on you as a drummer? I mean, he's one of the most famous drummer, most amazing drummer. Yeah. You know, um, Varage growing up in the S in the school and the, and the, and the drummers that spoke to me, guys like Tommy Lee bunny, Carlos' Vick Fox from enough's enough. Um, Neil pier was not necessarily an influence cause he's, he's doing like algebra, you know what I mean? And I'm more like one plus one equals three. It's progressive rock is very complex. Yeah. But I mean, awesome. I mean fantastic tremor. I mean legendary, you know. Um, but it, that stuff doesn't, I just sit there and shake my head going, wow, this dude was on another planet, you know? But yeah, very shocking to hear that he had a, it was at brain cancer, I think so, you know, and it had three years, but he was the type that, uh, he been quiet. He's like a dog, you know, dogs don't show their pain and, and uh, you know, he, um, you know, to keep, to play at that level for as long as he did. You know, he's not back there just doing, you know, ACDC. I mean, he's killing it. Right. And to do that for all those years and be that old and go out there and tour under that circumstance, it was pretty, pretty amazing. And it's a, yeah, I mean we're, we're losing heavyweights. I mean, it's getting, it's really shows your mortality. It's like, you know, who's next, you know, and we know that. It just proves that any day could be our last day grandpa said was the worst thing about getting

Chuck Shute: 8:56

old was all your friends die. Yeah. All you got. I mean, he lived in his nineties, so, um, so anyways, back to you. You moved to LA in 1992. Yeah. Did you have a plan or was there a band that you had joined or you just say, fuck it, I'm moving to LA? No, I did have a plan. Um, so a buddy of mine from high school, we went back to central park. My first gig, my first gig was in a band called lady Scarlet and this singer, my, my buddy Rick was living in LA and he had been out there for a couple of years. He went out there going, Hey, I'm going to just go out here and try and make it as a singer, which never happened. And also my old manager from a van called brat that I had in my teens was also living out there.

: 9:33

And so the bass player and I said, you know, I graduated high school the following spring we drove out to LA and my buddy Rick had been out there networking and was going to get me in a band with Christina Luray. Now Christina dates the bass player from the band called South gang. Oh, I remember. So, okay. Yeah. And they had the Floyds funk revival. Yeah. Okay. And then what's the Butch Walker talker? Yeah, so she had a solo band and I was going to be like, dude, you're in, you're in. Well, I know I went out to LA. I've still haven't met her yet. It's some 25 years. So I've had a lot of those covers. Yeah, sure. I'll do your podcast and never hear from my dad or here. Yeah, the number you've called has been just kidding, but so I'm not off. You remember, uh, your buddy?

Speaker 4: 10:16

A dignity diggity Dave Aragon. Yeah. We're going to see him tonight. He's going to be here tonight. He played in a band called shake the shield of faith with Tommy Thayer, who's currently the guitars for a band called kiss currently AEs Fraley and kiss currently is right now. He said, he told me that your band open up for him one time and he was kinda blown away and, but he couldn't remember the name of the band. Do you remember that band? This is back in the early days, man. I want to say either a band called dragon, uh, with some Chicago guys. However, I don't think dragon, which was a little bit more of a bluesy rock band, would have opened up for shake the faith. And I don't recall opening up for shake the faith, but I recall seeing them at FM station, North Hollywood all the time. But, uh, I've known, uh, I've known Dave Aragon for, you know, 25th, you know, since I moved to LA and then he was on a pimp, my ride or whatever. Yeah. Oh, he told me also to ask you about about the FM station and filthy McNasty and who also on the Viper room. Tell me about those days back then. So I used to go to, um, FM station in North Hollywood. It was at the corner of Lankershim and victory. Okay. And one street to the East. The next intersection is back. I could stumble home from FM station. I live in North Hollywood with my former manager and bass player, and I could walk over to FM station. Was that expensive by the way? Or is it way more expensive now? Or is it, I'd say, you know, it's all relative. I think, you know, it was expensive back then and then, you know, the more money you make, the more expensive it is. It just seems to kind of get, you can never, it's like being on a treadmill, you know? Gotcha. But, uh, yeah, I used to go there and I'd be friended one of the bartenders there and he would always make me all these weird. So I was, cause I wasn't a drinker. I didn't like beer and I didn't like hard alcohol. I didn't like the way I'm drinking a beer and I was going to send you like change, something's changed. Irish roots. Finally I, you know, they finally, you know, they had to uh, you know, like, like a good beer, you know, has to kind of, you know, sit in a nice where whatever you do with beer anyway. Uh, so I would drink like nutty monkeys and you know, goofy stuff that tasted like peanut timeout. What's none, any monkey would be just one of these little concoctions of, it was like a pina colada kind of flavor, you know, with a bunch of different like rums, you know, so, and then I always got a bonus. He liked me. He's like, uh, a man, I got the bonus monkey for you. So I would drink the one and then he had it sitting on the side. It was a whole nother one. So I got two for one, you know, and you get just a[inaudible] because it tastes like you're just, you know, like drinking a banana split, you know, but it's got ramen, all sorts of stuff in it. So it sounds dangerous. I would have to make those long walks home, uh, right down the street. But yeah, the FM station was a great place. It was awesome. That was right down the road from there. See bands like shake the faith, uh, uh, God, I'm trying to think of all the other bands, uh, Jones street, which had Brant woods from a wild, wild side, wild side and on cross. Yeah. You know what I mean?

: 13:10

So, um, you know, there's a lot of cats that would, would play. I mean that was the only club to go to in the Valley, you know, so it was, it was cool being up there.

Chuck Shute: 13:18

That's very cool. So, and then, um, a couple of highlights that you had mentioned before of your career, cause you've played with so many bands and we'll get to that in a second and hopefully we have time, but you got to meet Dio and Ace Freehley. Those were some of the highlights. And then one time I read the story where you, uh, attended an after party at the Hard Rock due to your connection with Dizzy Reed and Axl was there with Steven Adler. Yes, obviously this isn't back in the crazy, crazy days, but it's still Axl Rose, Steven Adler and you're at the party and it was at the Hard Rock like in a suite like a hangover suite is what I'm picturing....

: 13:48

Yeah, the bowling alley. Yeah. One bowling lane and a bunch of girls not wearing a bunch of clothes. I mean they weren't new but they were scantily clad as rock and roll would have it and they were terrible bowlers. But yeah. You know, Steven Adler and, and I, and I'm just looking around and sitting at the bar at fully stocked bar, you know, anything you can think of there. And Steven Adler and Axl Rose and I think this is the first time Steven had really...

Chuck Shute: 14:15

had seen Axl since that whole lawsuit and all that know, cause they had their issues when he'd gotten kicked out of the band.

: 14:20

Yes, and this was the first time they had really connected on a friendly level.

Chuck Shute: 14:25

And Steven was, not sober at this point. He sobered up a couple of years ago. This was like 2006 or seven or something, right?

Troy Farrell: 14:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chuck Shute: 14:31

This is one thing I've always been wondered about was Axl drinking because I know the rest of the band, Duff and Steven and, and Slash, they've all gotten sober and Izzy too, but Axl... you just, you never hear that he's totally sober, but you don't hear that he's going crazy either as he kind of just man this, does he drank a beer down then?

Troy Farrell: 14:47

You know....

Chuck Shute: 14:48

He's so private,

Troy Farrell: 14:49

you know, to I'm thinking, You know, I think so going to another Axl story, there's a King in India. He's actually like a Prince. The King we call him. He had gone down, I'm getting all over the place here, but Sebastian Bach had a birthday party at the Rainbow three nights in a row and.

Chuck Shute: 15:09

I'm a huge S ebastian B ach fan.... He's probably... Him and Axl are my two favorite singers of all time.

Troy Farrell: 15:13

So imagine this. So the Kings come into town and Sebastian comes for his birthday and I'm trying to think of, Oh, so Sebastian's there and he's like, I'm texting Axl..., He's coming down, he's coming down... Night number one- Axl doesn't show. Night number two.. No Axl.... literally three days at the Rainbow and the same table. We celebrated Sebastian's birthday and I don't know why I'm not friends with them. I just was connected with the King. And so we were all there together........Who out in the States visiting from India and.

Chuck Shute: 15:40

what do you mean the King?

Troy Farrell: 15:41

He's so his family, he's a King in India.

Chuck Shute: 15:45

Oh India, okay.

Troy Farrell: 15:46

Yes. A full on King and he's also a die hard Sebastian Bach fan and a huge Guns and Roses fan. He ended up booking shows for them. White Lion played 2008. Our last shows were in India and soccer stadiums. And the King was the one that booked it. He's just a huge rock fan... His family blood line...

Chuck Shute: 16:02

. It's kind of like the guy from North Korea being a big Chicago Bulls fan.

Troy Farrell: 16:07

It's totally random. Right. And we've got Dennis Rodman out there, you know, making world peace. But um, anyway, short story long is finally night three. Sure as shit, Axl Rose comes walking into the back table, so now we're sitting there. It's the King, Sebastian Bach, his girlfriend at the time and Axl Rose and his nearest f riend. And I'm there too. And we went down to the I think it's called the, like the Mondrian... Axl ives in LA, has a hotel booked down the street. So we go there afterward. I was there until about six o'clock in the morning just sitting at this round table listening to the King, talk to Axl about the King, ended up booking a couple of years after that, booking Guns and Roses in India. And he had something to do with that and it was because of that meeting. And anyway, I believe Axl did have a couple of drinks there, but he was always, very polite, very hospitable and very on point... the guy is together. He knows what he's doing.

Chuck Shute: 17:03

Yeah. That's awesome. Wow, that's a cool story. Great.

Troy Farrell: 17:06

Crazy story.

Chuck Shute: 17:07

So did you actually get to like shake hands and meet Axl? Oh really?

Troy Farrell: 17:10

I got to hang out with them and he was very nice even at the GNR party that he had up in the hotel, considering there was a hundred people there. I mean, it was jam packed. It was just the who's who, I was like, this is out of a movie. So you just sit there and observe. Do you look to your right, you've got, you know, good looking girls, terrible bowling. You look to your left, you got Steven Adler and Axl talking at the bar for the first time, you know, and I'm just going, wow, wow this is a, this is very trippy.

Chuck Shute: 17:36

That was very cool... Yeah. So is that like the most starstruck you've ever been or was there,

Troy Farrell: 17:40

you know, it wasn't even about being starstruck, it was just kind of going, man, there's some history happening here. Something's happening out of this, you know, and um, you know, so it's, it's not about being nervous, you know, cause they're just such nice people and just, you know, very, Hey man, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Oh you know, you play with dizzy. Cool. And then, you know, whatever he's on to the next person. But I was like, wow, that's really cool. Like it was really mellow...

Chuck Shute: 18:05

Cause he could be a total Dick if he wanted.

Troy Farrell: 18:07

S ure.

Chuck Shute: 18:07

And that's what I always thought, you know, growing up I thought, Oh probably these rock stars are probably real pompous. And every person that you know from Brandon Gibbs to you to everyone I've met has been so nice...

Troy Farrell: 18:16

Speaking of popmous guys...

Chuck Shute: 18:21

It's crazy. It's awesome. But so I'm talking about Steven Adler. I feel like his sound is like distinctly different from the other GNR drummer. Matt Sorum. Now you played with a lot of different bands. Do you try to adjust your style depending on the band you're playing with, like do tune up or down or do you use more cowbell like I don't, I'm not really technical with drums but.

Troy Farrell: 18:39

you know, yes and no. You know, I think the approach is to definitely take, from what you know, there are songs that just have signature fills are significant. You can't leave that out. That fill is the fill, you don't change it. And then the other approach is to, you know, do your thing because you know you can do your thing with more conviction than trying to do somebody. Like, for example, if I had to do a Rush song, I wouldn't have to approach it the way that I approach it because I can't play like him. You know what I mean? So I'd have to kind of own it with my style and then, you know, so yeah, it wasn't like how Neil does it, but he did it his own way and it was cool. You know, you have to really sell it. So, you know, there's, there's that kind of mix of making sure you hit all the key parts, but you do it your way. Okay. Now and, and naturally your, your styles just kinda come out, you know? I mean, there are other guys that are great at just mimicking and emulating other people and, uh, I'm not one of those, you know, like meal, being able to be so much more complex. Like what? Cause I tried to play the drums, I played like a snare drum in middle school, marching band or whatever. But I, I try to play like the multiple drums and then the, the, you know, there's the foot pedals and it's very, is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 4: 19:50

Like it's just very complicated. A lot of things going also, you know, with, with a band like rushed, very, you know, very progressive. There's time signatures, you know, I'm good at counting to four, you know, they're, they're doing like, you know, six, eight time and you know, five, three time and whatever, whatever they're doing. And so the counts are really weird and I'm terrible at math, so, uh, just not my style, you know what I mean? And also you got to, you have to have the finesse in the hands for something like that where I'm a little bit better, you know, kind of do an ACDC,

Chuck Shute: 20:18

you know, it's funny cause I just, I don't know a lot of the technical things. I just know when I see a good drummer I go, wow, that guy just blew me away.

Troy Farrell: 20:25

Sure, sure.

Chuck Shute: 20:26

Yeah. Have you ever seen a, what's that guy's name? Zoltan Cheney?

Troy Farrell: 20:29

Yeah. So I saw him on the Motley Cruise, which was the very first cruise. Now there's 8,000 cruises, but this is back in 2008 it was.... Vince Neil. Yeah. And it was Ratt... And I maybe Slaughter a bunch of, I know Zoltan plays for Slaughter now...

Chuck Shute: 20:46

And he plays in Vince Neil's solo band. That's when I first saw him.

Troy Farrell: 20:48

Yeah. And so John C orabi was on the boat with Ratt opening up for V ince Neil solo. Right? Yeah. That's the first time I saw Z oltan, s uper nice guy. I feel like he can play drums and make pizzas and,, do artwork all at the same time. You know what I mean? It's a little intense. I just remember the one time he hits this... he hits the crash, he gets up from the drums, he runs around the drums and comes back and continues playing. And that's a little too much for me. It's, exhausting to watch that guy play...

Chuck Shute: 21:20

He Jumps up into the... It's crazy.

Troy Farrell: 21:22

Yeah. Yeah.

Chuck Shute: 21:22

Visually...., He's gotta be the number one I thought. Yeah. He's, he's maybe not technical. I don't know, cause I'm not,

Troy Farrell: 21:28

He's a fantastic drummer. Yeah. I like when he k ind o f splits the flash and the drumming, you know, a technicality, kind of a little bit more down the middle. But I mean, he, he puts on a great show. He's super entertaining. But here's a story about that c ruise. We are looking for a place to hang out. We go into this bar, nobody's in it. There's this cool F ilipino band just jamming and it's myself, John Corabi,, Delana and Darrio L orraina... He was there. He's in Black Label Society now.

Chuck Shute: 22:07

Oh ok I like that band, Zach Wylde.

Troy Farrell: 22:07

Yeah, I believe he was there. Anyway, we get up on stage and we just start jamming. We take over the stage. Well, Vince Neil walks by and hears that there's rock and roll happening. Vince Neil comes in. I played Led Zeppelin. We did a Rock and Roll.

Chuck Shute: 22:25

Was that hard to emulate John Bonham's drumming?

Troy Farrell: 22:26

and that's it. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely up my alley. But yeah, he's, he took that groove in that pocket to another level. Like he's, he's another level, but on that, on it. So you've got Neil on one end, you've got Bonham on the other end but at the top of his game. So we're doing Rock and Roll. Vince Neil's singing John Corabi's playing bass.

Chuck Shute: 22:49

Oh that was the one I saw. I saw it.

Troy Farrell: 22:51

There's videos. There's some video of that on YouTube. Yeah. So I played with Vince Neil and John Corabi, two singers, a Motley Crue at the same time playing Zeppelin on a cruise ship in 2008.

Chuck Shute: 22:59

Jesus dude,

Troy Farrell: 23:01

it was pretty fun.

Chuck Shute: 23:02

I was g oing t o ask you though about J ohn C orabi cause I know y ou played with him. I met him. Super nice guy, great musician.

Troy Farrell: 23:07

John's great.

Chuck Shute: 23:08

What do you think about how some people say that his lone album with Motley Crue was actually their best album? And one of those people by the way, is Mick Mars the Motely Crue guitarist...

Troy Farrell: 23:17

Sure. Well, I mean I, I agree.

Chuck Shute: 23:21

You agree that's their best album?

Troy Farrell: 23:22

Well, you know, here's the thing, Motley Crue to me are those four guys that are reuniting right now. But that album, with that being said, and listen, it was called Motley Crue.... I think it stands in a place on its own. It really does. I feel that the musicianship on that album far exceeds any other Motley Crue album. And John took it to another level.... Obviously vocally has a very different style and musically you can hear the difference in those albums... So y eah, you know, Motley Crue is a brand and they ha ve t heir sound and that to me is Motley Crue. That album is different and ma y, you know, I don't think they co uld've g otten away with calling it something else, but you know, it didn't even really do that great as Motley Crue.

Chuck Shute: 24:04

Right.

Troy Farrell: 24:05

So, but I get the, the business end of it, you know, you don't change the name and come out as a new band, especially in those days. You would have fallen flat on your face. So even with that brand behind them, that history, they still had a tough time with that. Um, but uh, that album, you know, obviously is, you know, as the years go by is becoming known as the man. That is a great album and it stands alone on on. And isn't that the only self titled Motley Crue album? I, you know, usually the big albums for a band is the one that's, you know. Right. Exactly. So you know, it, it says something about that album.

Chuck Shute: 24:40

No, I love that album. Very, it's like really actually like speaks to me personally back in the 90s when I was in high school getting into rock, another album that I actually really loved, I think it's super underrated is a Gilby Clarke Pawnshop Guitar, another guy that you play with.

Troy Farrell: 24:54

Yes.

Chuck Shute: 24:54

He was actually the first like kinda rock star that ever met. Nicest guy. And I so do you agree with it? His music, you think it's underrated?

Troy Farrell: 25:00

I absolutely, absolutely. I mean Gilby is a great blues rock guitar player and he writes unconventionally, you know, he's not just doing the standard stuff. And I think his vocals, you know, cause he doesn't tout himself as a singer, but I think he's the only guy that can sing his music. Right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4: 25:19

If he got a singer to come and sing us songs, it wouldn't be a Gilby Clark. You know what I mean? So definitely. Um, let me know if you need to get going. No, we're good enough, let's say for a little bit. All right. Um, how about uh, CC Deville. That's another guy that you worked with. Now he's so high energy and back in the day they were just, they were so much about the drugs and boozing and partying, but I'm sure when you, by the time you worked with them in the 90s, I think he had cleaned up. So how does he channel that energy? Cause now he's sober, right? I'm assuming we're mostly sober, like he's not doing cocaine and stuff, so is, he's still pretty like crazy and stuff, you know, I don't, I don't know him. Uh, it's been a long time since I've, I've seen him. I mean, I did see them at a poison show, you know, a couple of years ago. And uh, you know, just, we just kind of, you know, Hey, you know, I don't think he knew who I was, but, uh, I, you know, I jam with them a few times at the cat club. Uh, when we were doing Samantha set, like he was going to put together Samantha seven and we had a bass player, myself and him and he was, I think he was on, you know, he was, he was going for it then cause he was, I mean the, the stories and meets between the songs were, were just like crazy, but he was awesome. You know what I mean? But I think he was a, I think it was having a good time back then. You know, nothing better, good time back then. But I think since he's gotten out, he's kind of like, you kind of reached that point where you get old enough for like, you almost like have to kind of clean up a little, or at least tone things down a little, sadly.

Troy Farrell: 26:38

But you know, no matter whether he's, you know, drinking or doing whatever he did, he's always going to be CC Deville. And he's only one.

Chuck Shute: 26:45

Yeah, he's got quite a personality. Another guy that you work with, Jani Lane, one of my favorite singer songwriters of all time. Now, I don't know if you, I'm sure you probably know there's a recent revelation. I actually, talked about this on my podcast a couple of months ago about there was a rumor that he had been raped by some other band manager and or musician and now it finally came out. It''s basically saying that it's true. Like he said it on a radio interview and yo u h eard th at. Do you have any thoughts of that or... I mean, ca use t o me it just, it kind of ex plained, I don't think it gives an excuse for like how, you know he died and he obviously over indulged and he went through all that stuff. But to me it really explains it and I feel really bad for him now. It's not like he just made bad decisions a nd was a fuck u p or something. It's like he was going through some pain, you know, so, yeah.

Troy Farrell: 27:33

I f, if that allegation is, correct. And I, there's no t he reason, you know why it wouldn't because I think it would be a shame i f if s omebody, used that to sell a book or to come out and try and get some attention, but.

Chuck Shute: 27:46

I don't think people make that shit u p.

Troy Farrell: 27:49

I t's, it's really bad to do that. It's not good for the karma, you know? But, that's some, some deep dark stuff that, you know, you either have to deal with it, but how do you deal with that? And I think if you don't have the tools to, deal with it and really process it, then you drink or you do what he did... And ending up in a hotel on Woodland Hills an d a Comfort Inn and dying.... man... nobody wishes that on anybody else. And it just tells you the level of pain he was in, you know.

Chuck Shute: 28:24

Exactly. So what was he like to work?

Troy Farrell: 28:28

He was a mess....

Chuck Shute: 28:29

He was a mess at that point?

Troy Farrell: 28:30

He was a mess. Yeah. I think, you know, we would, we would fly out to the East coast and we would get there. And so the three band guys Darrio and my buddy Chad, who's a Phoenix guy here plays in BulletBoys. Chad actually is the one that got me the audition for Janie back in'06... And I would show up there and so we'd all be together. We wouldn't see Janie cause he'd be flying in on a different flight. So we waiting and then a bag would come out on the, you know, just be circling the carousel and everybody else would be gone except for the three of us and this one bag. And I go, I bet you that's Janie's bag and sure is not. We'd go there, check it, you know, says John Oswald on it. And I go, all right, well, so then we call ABI. Hey, uh, we got Janie's bag, but when you'll see Jani..." Yeah, he didn't make the plane... He went and checked his bag and left." So we would, we would stay in a hotel that night. They would fly us back and we always got paid for the shows whether we didn't, so,

Chuck Shute: 29:25

so he just got too drunk or something?

Troy Farrell: 29:28

Like, you know, I'm not sure what was going on, but yeah, and the few shows that we did do, um, yeah, he was in a bad place. He was a, and I'm not trying to sling mud to make them look bad, but he was in a bad place and I don't think I realized..... you don't sometimes understand like how serious it is. And it also really wasn't my place to have a heart to heart with them cause I didn't know him on that level. You know what I mean? So you just kind of like, well what can I do to make this happen? Like how can I help this situation so we can get the shows done? You know, cause that's what, cause that's what we're all out here to do. So you don't want to overstep your boundaries, but you also you want to like find a way to fix a potential problem because I think that's the right thing to do. You don't sit there and just close your eyes to it, but you also do... Like this isn't my place to get involved. So I kinda just sat on the sideline. I was the new guy... I sat on the sidelines.... but that's the only bandI ever got fired from.

Chuck Shute: 30:20

Oh, you actually, I got fired?

Troy Farrell: 30:21

I got fired from that band. Yeah. Y.

Chuck Shute: 30:22

Why?

Troy Farrell: 30:22

I don't know.I think I may have overstepped the boundaries one time... We played a place called the Webster Theater in Hartford, Connecticut, which was a place I played with Dizzy Reed, Alex Grossi,, Hookers and Blow numerous times. It's a legendary heavy metal rock bar. I mean, it's actually not a bar. It's a theater, you...probably 2000 people. And we played there and, and I was really good friends with the owners and stuff cause I did a lot of the business with Hookers and Blow. So I knew those people.... And that was how we p layed there all the time. And Jani went in there and he's punching walls and he just wasn't having a good time..... And so I said something a nd I'm like, bro, this is, this is my hood here, man. Don't, you know, I wouldn't go to your house and let my friends knock your walls. Like, come on man, you know, let's, you know, try to try to make the situation a little bit better. And his girlfriend or I don't think they were ever married Sheila, who I still talk to today. I don't think she liked me very much cause I sometimes I get a big mouth, but I was like,"Hey man don't come in here and do that. That's not cool because you're not going to hear about it. You know, maybe the management will hear, Hey Jani's down, but you know, they're going to come to me going, dude, what's up with your, your singer guy? Tell Jani to not..." You know what I mean? So I think I maybe talked too loud once and so yeah. So, you know, A BI called me, h e's like, Hey man, we're not g oing t o need your services anymore. I'm like, Oh wow. I think I just got fired from Jani Lane's b and. But I was never the guy not showing up for the gigs. I made the plane ride every time. But, u h, no, I g otta tell you the, the, the handful of shows we did back in'06 were awesome. I mean, I was playing with the guy....

Chuck Shute: 32:00

Well, that's what Mark Gus Scott got from Trixter. He said that they did the Blood, Sweat and Beers tour, and he said that he would, Jani would get hammered, but then somehow you would still magically show up and just play lights out every show. Never didn't matter how fucked up he was. He would still sing and be crawling off of the amps and stuff and jumping off the rafters and, and he was crazy.

Troy Farrell: 32:23

Yeah. He's a beast. Hey, you know, our hospitality, we want to thank, and by the way, we're here, uh, at the copper blues and we're doing a benefit for the justice center tonight. And so rock and roll celebrity show, we've got guys from Candlebox, we got Brandon Gibbs, we mentioned myself, Joel, coach Jay from collective CJ, you know, from a[inaudible] band,

Speaker 4: 32:41

silent rage. So that's why we're all here. Anyway, she brought some bevies would you like, can I crack one for you? Yes, absolutely. What are you going to go grab one? I'll grab, I'll scrub a bud light and just grab him bud light and I'll do the jeopardy theme. In the meantime, do, do, do, this is the beer opening thing. I'm going to crack the dentist, but yeah, dude, fucking just so nice. All right, let's keep talking. So Mike tramp a, you works. Speaking of solo bands, he worked with his solo band and then that led to a gig in[inaudible], which is when he's his, he's famous for now. My question for that. Uh, well I want to hear about working with him too, but also, um, I know obviously veto brought out the former guitars. He sued the band. There was a big feud there. Did, there was a, were there ever a resolution without, are you guys allowed to use the white lion name is he'll K or

Troy Farrell: 33:22

no, th you know, um, what happened was, I mean, God, this is a really, really long story and I'll, I'll, uh, not bore the listeners with the, um, the legal details of it, but look up just Google Gabe read and, or Gabe read rolling stone. You'll see the full article. Uh, Gabriel is the one that lost the white lion trademark because he was our attorney, but he's not a real attorney. He was using somebody else's. Uh, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's in prison right now. 50 months I think. So. Hi Gabriel. I can't wait to see you in a couple of years. But anyway, that's crazy. Mike and Vito have since, you know, um, mended the fences and you know, Mike, you know, Mike, Mike feels a, and this part bums me out a little bit, but he kinda feels like he should have never gone out and done another white lion. And I think that really, cause we put out one album, uh, return of the pride in 2008 and we also, uh, put out a couple of live albums and a live D D DVD. And I get, it's not the classic guys and it wasn't about that. It was, you know, it was about those songs, you know, and we did our damnedest to own those songs and to play them properly for people that wanted to come out and see white lion and hear white line music. So, you know, when he says he's bummed out that I probably should have never done it. I should never called the band white line. I should have never put out another album. It sort of takes that experience away from me. I won't let it, but it bums me out cause it's like, you know, dude, you know, maybe you go, yeah, you know, next time I wouldn't do it that way, but don't have regrets for something you did. Right. You know, cause, cause you're a part of that, you know. Yeah, exactly. And it's not fair to the other guys that, uh, you know, some tours didn't get paid or left their families for eight months out of the air. You know, don't take that away from me cause we were there for the end all be all, whatever that was. We, you know, we, we were soldiers and so, you know, yeah, maybe that wasn't the right thing to do, but, uh, you know, for him and he looks back on it, go now, I probably wouldn't have done it that way, but that's what we did. And that's how we did it. And don't, you know, own it and go, this is what it was. And it was, it was great. It wasn't what I intended it to be. It wasn't with veto, but Vito didn't want to have a part of it, you know. So he didn't necessarily say that. He's like, you'd wish you didn't, didn't make that album then? No, no. I think he were just where she didn't call it white lion. That's where she would call Mike tramp solo. Sure. Something like that, you know. But, uh, needless to say, you know, that experience and playing with him for so many years has allowed me to get into a lot of connections and playing with other bands and, you know, people that I grew up watching on MTV, I mean, you know, are now peers of mine. And, and I appreciate that. I mean, are you still now, are you still technically in white lion or is that, there really isn't a white line there. There isn't, it's not even on high. It's, it'll, it'll never happen again. Yeah. You know, and so, you know, we've, we've been talking, he, he's been threatening to, to do a full band tour in the States for the past three or four years. And, uh, as my tramper as Mike tramp. Yeah. You know, and he's got the band of brothers that he does over overseas with some Danes and he was going to do kind of the Mike tramp band of brothers over here with some, some guys that are stateside. And uh, it might happen sometime this year. It was supposed to happen sometime in the spring, but he's just going to come out and do acoustic stuff around the M three or monsters or rock or whatever is, and then he'll just kind of cruise around for a couple of weeks and then go back over there. So the goal is to get him out here to do a full band thing. He's been doing acoustic tours, which are awesome storytelling and stuff. But I think people want to see him rock a little bit. You know, his voice still good. It's still, Oh, he's got a great voice. He's seeing weight know he's not singing up in that register, you know anymore. And I don't even think that register for him. He listens to any cringey she's like, I dunno, you know, when you're, when you're in your teens and twenties you can hit that stuff. But if you want to have a career 30 years down the road, you're not hitting that stuff anymore. So you got to find a way to kind of reinvent it. But I think, I think Mike feels that where he's at vocally is where he should have been the whole time. So he's very happy with, with where he's at. He's very happy with himself as an artist and, and how he's grown and, and, and the albums he's put out. And, and I, you know, I, I get chills thinking about how, cause he was miserable out there doing white line, you know, it just, it was never enough. Never ride, even though we played, you know, in front of 43,000 people and, and in India. And it was awesome. I think he always felt something was missing or lacking. And now I feel like he's at home. He's very happy with themselves and he's going to still do what? Wine songs. Oh yeah. He just doesn't mean a little bit of a different way. Doesn't mean the Mike tramp way, you know, and his solo stuff. Very singer songwriter, you know, Dylan, uh, Brian Adams, that kind of stuff. Oh yeah. Springsteen. Very cool. Yeah. So tell me about the lost angels is a bandwidth. You, uh, Eric Dover who was the singer of slash a snake pit. Yeah. And played with Alice Cooper. John[inaudible] we've already talked about was in Mali crew. Um, he J a curse who's playing tonight I think, right? Yeah. Yeah. And uh, you know, Eric Brittingham, uh, from Cinderella was in one of the incarnations of muddy Stardust, um, who played in burning tree. Okay. Mark Ford from a black crows. Oh, this is before black clothes. So, um, so, uh, muddy had played in a, he's was in LA guns. He was in Chris Robinson's a solo brother. Yeah. Brotherhood. So muddy was in the first incarnation when we went to India with Eric Dover, John Kirby, myself, and muddy. And uh, you know, we've got Ryan Roxy that does our European stuff. It's an Alice Cooper. So yeah, it, you know, it just started off as a, a band I got called to put together a gig. Hi. And thanks for the beer to do a game with a beer, to do a gig out in India and to put together an all star things. So we, uh, lost angels came about and 2001 when I was asked by a promoter who, um, 2000, yeah, no, 2010, I'm sorry, 2001 was when I first started playing with my trap solo. Anyway, so 2008 white lion plays India. 2009, I get asked by a promoter, Hey, can you put together a band? We've talked about Gilby some other guys, and Gilby was unavailable to do it. So then I called John[inaudible], who was a roommate of mine and Eric Dover, who I knew and muddy, I'd been in a bandwidth. So, Hey, do you guys want to go to India? We'll put a band together. The band was originally called Los angels. The angels and muddies mom goes, no, you should call yourself the lost angels. I go, you know what? She's probably on to something. So that's how that name came about. And, uh, so yeah, we, we, you know, we've played India, we've played Australia, we've been to Mexico, we've been to Scandinavia, Europe, uh, you know, France, Belgium, the UK, uh, Ireland. And you know, it's just one of those bands that when everybody can get together outside of their, you know, daily gigs and stuff, we put it together and we go somewhere and have fun for a couple of weeks. And like a supergroup basically, you know, um, you know, I call it a superb group is what it is. It's super groovy. And Auburn is super playbooks sings and does John singer, they both sing. So we do. Yes, we do John Kirby solo material. We do hooligans. Holiday go from, we do slash we do jellyfish, we do the Imperial drag. And when Roxy's in a band, we do a rock solo. We do a lot of Alice Cooper plus Ryan and Eric were announced Cooper together for almost a decade. So we do a lot of, you know, they, they did the eyes of Alice Cooper album together. So we do a track off of that. Nice. And, um, and then we do some white lion tunes and we do some stuff. We did. We, you know, we do the suite, we do queen, you know, whatever. Just some stuff that we are currently tracking, uh, vis-a-vis the internet. An AP right now. Nice. Yeah. So we're going to put out, this might be where we jumped the shark at this, you know, but we're actually gonna put out some original materials. So Eric[inaudible], Eric Brittingham is going to have some bass guitars. BJ, uh, we're going to have a karate track on there. We're going to have a Ryan Roxy and we're going to have Eric Dover. Awesome. That was a big, Oh, can't wait to hear that. And then I'm cheap. Thrilled. That's the bit you're also in that band with Brian. Does that technically what it's built tonight? Is it cheap, cheap thrill. Yeah. You know, so originally, uh, Brandon and Joel were going to come here and do an acoustic thing and then, um, we, uh, well I think then Ann who was gracious enough to bring some beers. Yes, thank you. I decided to, um, you know, Hey, can we bring Troy out and add a Cahone, you know, let's, so yeah, cause we had been doing some acoustic shows that, you know, the way these guys are checking right now. And then, um, we were out here for Gilby show at a venue that had closed its doors

Speaker 4: 41:34

to go to that show, be all free live. The I came, I was going to go to this show and then all of a sudden I see a tweet from Gilby saying, Hey guys, the show is not going on because the venue has closed. Tell him he had to fly out here. We flew out here. So you are there for that. I was here for that. So we are for you. So we were at the, the, the uh, the hotel waiting and you know, we can tell that we were getting the run around a little bit from the staff, just not really sure what was going on. And we found out that it, it wasn't happening. So, uh, Anne, who is our host tonight was gracious enough to kind of take us out and go, you know, sorry this happened. I know a lot of the people could choose and you know, she had her business out here and um, she took us, you know, we went into Sal band, we went to a club and you know, just have some food and hunger club. Do you remember? We, you know, I don't remember where the band was and I can't remember the name of the order. Come and hung out, hung out with you guys. We ended up hanging, I mean that is the only way to salvage tonight. It was a Friday night in Phoenix and it was already up on one of the other like wastes of grain or one of these other posts. It was just so late to make something happen. Um, but uh, anyway, so that was when Ann met EGA and found out that we were doing some cheap thrill stuff as a, as a sort of strip. We can also do it as a strip down full band thing. So that's how two became three became four. And that's why we're here tonight. You know, obviously for a good cause for the veterans too. But um, yeah, I will, I just want to add this, that the, the owners of BLK live did pay us in full. Wow. Okay. That's very cool. Yeah. Cause I wondered if that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen. Yeah. Cause they just, they got kinda fucked over, right? Yeah. Well the[inaudible] owns the building, put a lock on it so they could not even get in. And they had their own gear in there and stuff too. They had a sound cut shit. So everybody got kind of screwed the deal. I think the city of Scottsdale was that upset with the outside stuff. And what happened, what had happened was, uh, they, they were just putting the screws on the owner and he just got sick of having to deal with it. But, uh, the owners of BLK live did pay us in full and, and um, you know, sorry to see it go as a nice venue.

Chuck Shute: 43:33

Yeah. That sucks. So of all the bands that you've toured with, what's the craziest thing that's happened? I mean, cause you've toured with Enuff Z'Nuff, Pretty Boy Floyd, all these other things we've mentioned.

Troy Farrell: 43:43

Pretty Boy Floyd.... Kristy Majors chased me down in a hotel and tried to beat me up in Stockholm, that was my last show in Pretty Boy Floyd...

: 43:51

What? I did not hear this story!

Troy Farrell: 43:52

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah he was mad because he thought I got my own hotel room and I was trying to cheat him out of the room when actually I was looking for them to swap rooms with them and.... they were...I love Kristy, but when he gets, when he's in a mode and he thinks that that's what's happening, then he just, he's full force and it's like this isn't the story man. This is not what I w anted. So he chased me down. Thank God Chris, the bass player, tackled him and stopped t hem from b eating me up.

Chuck Shute: 44:19

Wow. So yeah, cause I was interested about that cause pretty boy Floyd. I mean, I didn't think they were like, I mean I like them. I'm a fan, but I didn't know they're there. It sounds like you guys toured the world would with, are they bigger overseas? Oh yeah. Yeah. No. When I joined the band, I actually took over the

Troy Farrell: 44:31

booking cause I was working at Chris's agency ares, Hawaii who looks, a lot of these bands were talking about enough's enough and tango Gilby Clark and you know, at white lion at the time. Anyway. Um, yeah, we went to, uh, Australia, South America, Europe, Stockholm, you know, um, Scandinavia, you know, we, we played everywhere. Uh, the band was very, very busy when I was in it cause that was my sole job was to book the band. I think that's the thing that separates them from everybody else is that, uh, they are the quintessential eighties glam rock band. So they own that title. It's not a huge title, but they're at the top of the heat. Yeah. So when you want that, those are the guys you share. I heard a rumor that, uh, they, they, uh, did a show with ugly kid Joe, and that's how ugly kid Joe came about. They kind of did it as a joke, like, Oh, you're pretty boy Floyd will be ugly kid Joe. And then the name just start. I don't know if that's true, but it's a great story, great story. But you mentioned that, um, you booked those shows for, so you have a book in agency where you, you still have that and you were[inaudible] I was actually, uh, working for Chris's agency as an agent, you know, learning the ropes for about three years. Um, but, you know, he was like, well, why don't you just book Floyd and get that going? And so that's kinda where I learned the booking ropes and I still book, you know, we played last night in Vegas and I have a relationship with, with people all over, you know, touring for 20 years in the States. You make friends and you know, if you're the guy sort of, you know, dealing with all the details that make those friends and you have a good night and you go, Hey, who do I contact? I'm like, Hey man, call me. And so whenever I put something together I can call go, Hey, it's Troy from such and such. We got this going on. Are you interested? And uh, you know, you make those relationships and you work out a deal and come out and play for some people, you know, but, uh, it's very cool. Yeah. You know, I tour managed just out of necessity in white line, well with Mike tramp in 2001 because we would be driving, we get to the club at noon, nobody would be there. Nobody knew where the hotel was. Nobody knew where to go. This is the day before, you know, the age before the cell phones and having, you know, internet. And so I got my cell phone and I'm Googling addresses, which was very difficult back in Oh one and uh, I was like, well, who handles this? Why are we showing up at the club four hours early and then waiting to find out the hotel, or we should go straight to the hotel. Right. So he handed me all this stuff. He goes, take care of it. And I didn't know what to do, but that's where I learned, figured it out, how to do it. That's very cool. And then I, you know, I've, since the tour managed, uh, the band fuel, yeah. Totally bred skylines and fuel and, uh, and then. I tour managed Bobby Blotzer's Ratt...

Chuck Shute: 46:58

Oh yeah...That's cool...

Troy Farrell: 46:58

That was always fun, you know.

Chuck Shute: 47:01

Yeah.

Troy Farrell: 47:01

The story of Don Dokken threatening Bobby... that he Was g onna feel t wo hits- him hitting him and Bobby hitting the floor. Yeah, that's a true s tory. Oh, t hey'd just gotten a bitch fight at a bar, at a hotel after a gig because Don played five minutes too long and"this was th e f ucking Ratt show and you're not go nna d isrespect me"... and Don comes walking out in h is trench coat straight to the bar and he literally, I'm standing between, I' m l ike, Don, come on dude. What? It's B lotzer.... Don't worry about it. Dude had, have a drink... It's all good. And he goes, Bob, there's go ing t o b e two hits. Me hitting you and you hi tting t he floor. And I'm like, Don, did you really just say that?[i naudible]......so great stories from those guys, man.

Chuck Shute: 47:45

Dude, you got some great stories...

Troy Farrell: 47:45

you just sit back and watch. Let them go man. That's awesome. Um, do you still have your tee shirt business too? You don't know your dead clubs? Yeah, it was like old clubs like the Starwood where you may so idea my, my partner Kenny, um, bought the licenses for[inaudible] and uh, all the different clubs all over. And, uh, so now that business is no longer around, but I do believe he still owns the licenses. But I thought it would have been a great business cause you know, those places are still around, you know, cause Ari's not still around, but you know, the legacy estate, the cat house is another one. I think Ricky Rockman house, he sells those cat house t-shirts. I never got to go there. No, I never went either. I wasn't it close before I got um, you said you enjoy the business side as much as the musical side. You also had a radio show, this, that and the other is that I still do that. You're still doing it. Okay. Yeah. You know, I actually, I'm going to probably take your board cause it's much nicer than mine, but a great, seriously get one for, I had a weekly show and I'm no longer broadcasting on that station. So now I'm just kind of doing, I'm, I'm working on something for this year where I'm going to take that show to another station where I can go and do this on a weekly basis. I've had a Malcolm Jamal Warner on my show. I've had Brett from the Cosby show. That's awesome. Brett skylines from fuel Gilbert's been on the show. I've had, uh, Susan Olson, Cindy Brady, you know, Mark Ripon, he's an MVP. So email. So people like that and that's fair. Now, so I'm looking to get the guests, how do you just randomly or do you know these people? I know them or have connections. Uh, a friend of a friend knew his assistant or whatever and said, Hey, I can get, would you be interested? I'm a, yeah, he's a Superbowl MVP. Of course. Let's get it. You know. And I think Mark was tipping back a couple of cocktails and having a good time. We had a great conversation and I'm going to archive all that stuff at some point for people to go back and listen to, cause I had some really great conversations. In fact, Brandon gives it been on the show. Oh, awesome. He's been on my show too. Yeah, we got some in comics, so he'd done a lot of great stuff. Do you ever have any, it seems like you're so busy doing all this stuff. Do you ever have any, it's all a facade. What do you do for fun? I play softball on Sundays. Really? Yeah. I'll be hightailing outta here at 10:00 AM so I can get to my softball league tomorrow. Okay. That sounds fun. Do you like to have a ball? My girl and I, you know, um, I uh, I play in the outfield and sometimes in field when they're desperate. Okay. I'm not great at the infield, but I can catch him. Me bond. I got wheels, man. All right. I'm almost 50 and I can still run fast. Well thank you. Um, we probably should wrap up. It seems like everyone's getting, yeah. Yeah, we've got 20 minutes. I really appreciate it. Get, go to the hotel and wash off the failure. The failure. It's going to be a long shower. Oh, it just, it's just a saying, don't worry. I always to end on a charity. Did you have, do you want to talk about the charity that we're promoting tonight or will justice center a charity for veterans and it's a great, it's a great charity. It's a great cause I don't know tons about it, but by the, by the end of the night I'm definitely gonna learn about it. And then, um, you know, other, other charities and things that, uh, that I'm into are anything to do with animal rescue, you know, so, so, you know, we're probably gonna have 20 dogs in the next year. We're going to save all the dogs. All the, all we're gonna get the old ones that, uh, you know, nobody wants going to take them out to Australia. Have you been falling out? Yeah, it breaks my heart not to close a blind eye, but I can't, I can't watch it. You know, it's the people. It's not even the people, you know, it's, I, for some reason when I hear about the animals, that affects me more than, cause I feel like the people have a fighting chance. You have a choice. No, you're right. And that sucks. And then they hear that, you know, 200 people have been accused of starting those fires and yeah, in about 30, this is as of a few days ago, 30 people had been arrested for it. So this is not, you know, a global warming thing. This is people arson in some cases. So, you know, how dare you.

Chuck Shute: 51:35

Terrible. Terrible. Was there anything else that you have on the horizon that you want to promote? Any music coming out and you said the Los angels has an EAP?

Troy Farrell: 51:41

Yeah, we're working on an EAP. We're working on a Los angels a, we're calling it the hindsight 2020 tour in March. We're going to be in Italy and a Scandinavia. We've just announced two days, March 20 and 21. Uh, we'll be on the rock the boat on the 20th, and then a high voltage and Copenhagen on the 21st. And uh, you know, give, Clark's, got a new album coming out pretty soon. Yeah, I think you're wasting a single soon. Uh, EGA and myself tracked a few tunes on there. Okay. And then, uh, I think that's about it in a bubble bath with Brandon Gibbs later. That's all I got on the horizon. Making sure he's listening. Yeah. Just, you know, Gilbert, are you guys going to come maybe, maybe come back to Arizona and do a show. You need to come back here? We got, we got Jiff last time so we'll, we'll come back and make it. Yeah. Okay. Well thanks so much for being on the show. Cheers bro. Man, thanks. That can be fun on all the usual suspects. Twitter[inaudible] and just look up to Patrick Farrell. You have your website, drummer, Troy[inaudible] dot com. Yeah, thank you so much. Thanks bro.

Chuck Shute: 52:37

Well there you have a Troy Patrick feral. Uh, that was a really fun interview for me. Um, being in the green room at coverable is live is always a fun place to record. Feels like you're kind of in the action or the rock band. And Brandon Gibbs is there who I've interviewed before and, and it was just a really fun show that night as well. So hope you guys enjoy the interview. A lot of good stories. There'll be fun to follow a Troy's career with cheap thrill and Los angels and whatever else he has up his sleeve next. So, um, I've got some great interviews lined up, so I hope you guys enjoy the past interviews and, and future interviews that I'll have as well. Until next time. See you then.

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