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So I"},{"speaker":"Steve Stevens","startTime":4354.92,"endTime":4356.99,"body":"hope I didn't miss any there's"},{"speaker":"Steve Stevens","startTime":4356.99,"endTime":4358.76,"body":"anything else you want to plug"},{"speaker":"Steve Stevens","startTime":4356.99,"endTime":4358.76,"body":"at this point, or?"},{"speaker":"Steve Stevens","startTime":4359.0,"endTime":4360.05,"body":"No, I think we covered it."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4360.14,"endTime":4362.3,"body":"Okay. Thanks,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4360.14,"endTime":4362.3,"body":"Steve. I really appreciate it is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4362.3,"endTime":4366.74,"body":"surreal for me. So a lot of fun."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4362.3,"endTime":4366.74,"body":"And I'll try to get this up"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4366.74,"endTime":4370.01,"body":"soon. 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