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So make"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2925.089,"endTime":2928.749,"body":"sure to subscribe to the show."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2928.959,"endTime":2932.649,"body":"Wherever you listen so you don't"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2928.959,"endTime":2932.649,"body":"miss any future episodes. Thank"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2932.649,"endTime":2936.219,"body":"you to Rick, thank you all for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2932.649,"endTime":2936.219,"body":"listening and remember, shoot"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2936.219,"endTime":2936.849,"body":"for the moon."}]}