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I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2208.43,"endTime":2212.12,"body":"never believed in saying"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2212.12,"endTime":2215.18,"body":"anything bad about anybody in"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2212.12,"endTime":2215.18,"body":"this business. Even if it's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2215.18,"endTime":2219.38,"body":"somebody that isn't a favorite"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2215.18,"endTime":2219.38,"body":"of mine. Yeah, I just didn't do"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2219.38,"endTime":2219.65,"body":"that."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2220.45,"endTime":2223.09,"body":"That's smart, though. Because"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2220.45,"endTime":2223.09,"body":"you've last you've obviously had"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2223.09,"endTime":2226.06,"body":"a long career. 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Okay, so we"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3390.66,"endTime":3392.7,"body":"can schedule that starts up in"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3390.66,"endTime":3392.7,"body":"March."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3392.73,"endTime":3394.38,"body":"Okay, great. Well, I'll"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3392.73,"endTime":3394.38,"body":"definitely check that out."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3394.38,"endTime":3397.92,"body":"hopefully see you guys soon. And"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3394.38,"endTime":3397.92,"body":"then I like to end each episode"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3398.25,"endTime":3401.37,"body":"with promoting a charity that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3398.25,"endTime":3401.37,"body":"the guest choice. I don't know,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3401.37,"endTime":3404.07,"body":"if your management told you. Is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3401.37,"endTime":3404.07,"body":"there a charity that you work"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3404.07,"endTime":3407.01,"body":"with? You want to give a quick"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3404.07,"endTime":3407.01,"body":"shout out to? Yeah, it's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3407.01,"endTime":3411.54,"body":"City of Hope, you know, hey,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3407.01,"endTime":3411.54,"body":"okay. In both my management, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3411.54,"endTime":3415.14,"body":"I have totally behind that. And"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3411.54,"endTime":3415.14,"body":"it's a great charity."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3415.17,"endTime":3416.91,"body":"What is it? What is city of what"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3415.17,"endTime":3416.91,"body":"is it?"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3417.54,"endTime":3421.23,"body":"It's, it's right. It's a thing"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3417.54,"endTime":3421.23,"body":"that works with hospitals, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3421.23,"endTime":3425.19,"body":"children, and all that helps"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3421.23,"endTime":3425.19,"body":"them out with funds. And it's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3425.19,"endTime":3430.92,"body":"just a really good situation to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3425.19,"endTime":3430.92,"body":"help some of these lower people"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3430.92,"endTime":3434.61,"body":"that the people that don't have"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3430.92,"endTime":3434.61,"body":"money, they just can't afford"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3434.61,"endTime":3437.1,"body":"stock. And it's just a quick"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3434.61,"endTime":3437.1,"body":"little, that's awesome."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3437.13,"endTime":3440.01,"body":"Okay, I'll put the link in the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3437.13,"endTime":3440.01,"body":"notes. And then and obviously,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3440.01,"endTime":3443.7,"body":"your social media as well."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3440.01,"endTime":3443.7,"body":"Steve, you've had an amazing"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3443.7,"endTime":3447.75,"body":"career. Thus far, I look forward"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3443.7,"endTime":3447.75,"body":"to seeing where you keep going."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3447.75,"endTime":3451.35,"body":"And we'll definitely look to see"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3447.75,"endTime":3451.35,"body":"on a show, hopefully, once"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3451.35,"endTime":3454.59,"body":"concerts are legal again. So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3451.35,"endTime":3454.59,"body":"hopefully that works. Anything"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3454.59,"endTime":3458.52,"body":"else you want to promote or Tell"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3454.59,"endTime":3458.52,"body":"you what, but I just want people"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3458.52,"endTime":3460.32,"body":"to go to elegance dotnet. Okay,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3460.83,"endTime":3463.71,"body":"anything that we're doing,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3460.83,"endTime":3463.71,"body":"especially perfect jobs that are"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3463.71,"endTime":3466.56,"body":"coming up, and I want to thank"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3463.71,"endTime":3466.56,"body":"you for your support. You're a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3466.56,"endTime":3468.3,"body":"good guy, brother. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3469.02,"endTime":3471.39,"body":"you too. Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3469.02,"endTime":3471.39,"body":"doing this. I appreciate your"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3471.39,"endTime":3476.55,"body":"great guy. Thank you. Okay, bye."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3471.39,"endTime":3476.55,"body":"So Steve Riley is the man he is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3476.55,"endTime":3480.3,"body":"the drummer for LA guns. There"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3476.55,"endTime":3480.3,"body":"are two versions of the band. So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3480.3,"endTime":3482.67,"body":"to differentiate between the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3480.3,"endTime":3482.67,"body":"other version, you're going to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3482.67,"endTime":3486.27,"body":"want to head over to LA guns"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3482.67,"endTime":3486.27,"body":"dotnet. And check out everything"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3486.27,"endTime":3488.88,"body":"they have there. All the links"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3486.27,"endTime":3488.88,"body":"are there, you can buy the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3488.88,"endTime":3492.36,"body":"album, or of course, you can"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3488.88,"endTime":3492.36,"body":"listen to it on Spotify. If you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3492.36,"endTime":3495.06,"body":"enjoy this episode of my show,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3492.36,"endTime":3495.06,"body":"check out some of the other"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3495.06,"endTime":3498.54,"body":"interviews I've done. 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Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3515.4,"endTime":3518.4,"body":"listening. And remember, shoot"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3515.4,"endTime":3518.4,"body":"for the moon."}]}