{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":13.259,"endTime":15.299,"body":"Welcome to today's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":13.259,"endTime":15.299,"body":"episode of the chuck shoe"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":15.299,"endTime":19.439,"body":"podcast. And if you have not"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":15.299,"endTime":19.439,"body":"done so yeah, make sure to hit"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":19.439,"endTime":22.799,"body":"that subscribe button so that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":19.439,"endTime":22.799,"body":"you never miss an episode. Today"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":22.799,"endTime":25.889,"body":"we have on Paul Crosby, who was"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":22.799,"endTime":25.889,"body":"most known as the drummer of"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":25.889,"endTime":29.879,"body":"saliva. 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So"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2525.52,"endTime":2527.8,"body":"I mean, to me, there's no"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2525.52,"endTime":2527.8,"body":"better. That's great."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2527.83,"endTime":2529.63,"body":"Yeah, I've had a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2527.83,"endTime":2529.63,"body":"lot of people on here given them"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2529.63,"endTime":2531.85,"body":"a shout out. So that's a great"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2529.63,"endTime":2531.85,"body":"one that people can throw a few"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2531.85,"endTime":2535.18,"body":"bucks. Otherwise, check out your"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2531.85,"endTime":2535.18,"body":"new management Paul Crosby"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2535.18,"endTime":2538.48,"body":"management and follow saliva and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2535.18,"endTime":2538.48,"body":"stuff on social media. I don't"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2538.48,"endTime":2541.87,"body":"think you're not on Instagram or"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2538.48,"endTime":2541.87,"body":"anything like that. or Twitter."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2541.93,"endTime":2542.59,"body":"I have"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2542.59,"endTime":2544.21,"body":"a private"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2542.59,"endTime":2544.21,"body":"Instagram. I just haven't really"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2544.21,"endTime":2545.65,"body":"used it in forever, man. Okay,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2546.04,"endTime":2547.6,"body":"so better to just"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2546.04,"endTime":2547.6,"body":"go to your"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2548.05,"endTime":2551.23,"body":"website."},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2548.05,"endTime":2551.23,"body":"facebook.com slash Paul Crosby"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2551.23,"endTime":2555.58,"body":"manage. Okay. Perfect. anybody's"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2551.23,"endTime":2555.58,"body":"interested in working with me"},{"speaker":"Paul Crosby","startTime":2555.58,"endTime":2556.09,"body":"hit me up."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2556.12,"endTime":2558.64,"body":"Yeah, we'll check"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2556.12,"endTime":2558.64,"body":"out that band. What was an iron"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2558.64,"endTime":2561.58,"body":"forgotten theory? Yes, sounds"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2558.64,"endTime":2561.58,"body":"sir. Okay, we'll check that out,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2561.58,"endTime":2563.62,"body":"too. Thanks so much, Paul."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2561.58,"endTime":2563.62,"body":"Appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2564.01,"endTime":2565.54,"body":"Thanks, buddy. All right. Bye."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2565.99,"endTime":2570.07,"body":"So Paul Crosby drummer for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2565.99,"endTime":2570.07,"body":"saliva. Make sure to follow Paul"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2570.07,"endTime":2572.89,"body":"Crosby management on Facebook to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2570.07,"endTime":2572.89,"body":"keep up with his managing"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2572.89,"endTime":2576.85,"body":"career. Follow his band's sound"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2572.89,"endTime":2576.85,"body":"theory he manages and obviously"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2576.85,"endTime":2580.48,"body":"false saliva. He plays the drums"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2576.85,"endTime":2580.48,"body":"in you know, I've never seen so"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2580.48,"endTime":2583.18,"body":"live alive, but I would"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2580.48,"endTime":2583.18,"body":"definitely go if they came here."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2583.36,"endTime":2585.46,"body":"And puddle of mud. I mean,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2583.36,"endTime":2585.46,"body":"they're great too. So hopefully"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2585.46,"endTime":2589.39,"body":"that'd be like a package deal. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2585.46,"endTime":2589.39,"body":"love that show. The fun. Thank"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2589.39,"endTime":2592.24,"body":"you for listening. And if you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2589.39,"endTime":2592.24,"body":"want to support the show, you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2592.24,"endTime":2595.63,"body":"can follow me on social media"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2592.24,"endTime":2595.63,"body":"and like or share the episodes"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2595.75,"endTime":2599.05,"body":"or if you have time, you can"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2595.75,"endTime":2599.05,"body":"write me a review on iTunes. And"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2599.05,"endTime":2601.36,"body":"tell me what you think about the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2599.05,"endTime":2601.36,"body":"show. Check out some of the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2601.36,"endTime":2604.72,"body":"other interviews I've done like"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2601.36,"endTime":2604.72,"body":"Jeremy pop off of lit Dave"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2604.72,"endTime":2609.25,"body":"Fortman, who produces slipknot"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2604.72,"endTime":2609.25,"body":"and Godsmack blast goes the bass"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2609.25,"endTime":2612.91,"body":"player for Ozzy and Rob Zombie,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2609.25,"endTime":2612.91,"body":"and tons of other episodes that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2612.91,"endTime":2616.75,"body":"I've got. Have a great rest of"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2612.91,"endTime":2616.75,"body":"your day and remember to shoot"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2616.75,"endTime":2617.62,"body":"for the moon."}]}