{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":13.59,"endTime":16.08,"body":"Welcome to the show"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":13.59,"endTime":16.08,"body":"and thanks for checking us out."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.44,"endTime":19.14,"body":"Hope you guys enjoy this episode"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.44,"endTime":19.14,"body":"we've got a great guest, Dale"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":19.14,"endTime":22.56,"body":"crover, who is the drummer for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":19.14,"endTime":22.56,"body":"the melvins. And he's been in a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":22.56,"endTime":25.83,"body":"ton of other bands, including"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":22.56,"endTime":25.83,"body":"for a brief time Nirvana. 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And he's like, Oh, he's"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2640.84,"endTime":2643.51,"body":"name's Dale. Crover. He plays in"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2640.84,"endTime":2643.51,"body":"this band that Melvin's is like,"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2643.51,"endTime":2645.88,"body":"I've never heard you guys. I"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2643.51,"endTime":2645.88,"body":"guess your show's canceled"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2645.88,"endTime":2649.57,"body":"tonight, huh? And Snoop Dogg had"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2645.88,"endTime":2649.57,"body":"just come through and had been"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2649.57,"endTime":2653.65,"body":"busted. And I was gonna be on"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2649.57,"endTime":2653.65,"body":"CNN, just like the big Snoop"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2653.65,"endTime":2658.06,"body":"Dogg bust and so then he gets me"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2653.65,"endTime":2658.06,"body":"out of the car and I'm gone."},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2658.09,"endTime":2658.87,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2659.35,"endTime":2666.28,"body":"And he's like, Well, you"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2659.35,"endTime":2666.28,"body":"know,just want to tell you guys,"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2667.51,"endTime":2674.98,"body":"Adam Jones from Tool said, you"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2667.51,"endTime":2674.98,"body":"guys are pranked. He was friends"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2674.98,"endTime":2679.15,"body":"with Adam. 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Is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2696.25,"endTime":2698.59,"body":"there a charity that you work"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2696.25,"endTime":2698.59,"body":"with? Yeah, I want to give a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2698.59,"endTime":2699.43,"body":"shout out to"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2700.329,"endTime":2702.669,"body":"You know, I don't"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2700.329,"endTime":2702.669,"body":"have one in particular but how"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2702.669,"endTime":2705.789,"body":"about breast cancer? Okay,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2705.819,"endTime":2707.049,"body":"perfect. 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Get the"},{"speaker":"Dale Crover","startTime":2726.429,"endTime":2728.559,"body":"new melons record. That's,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2728.56,"endTime":2731.32,"body":"that's out that's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2728.56,"endTime":2731.32,"body":"fresh. Okay, be freshly out of"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2731.32,"endTime":2733.84,"body":"the oven. All right, awesome."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2731.32,"endTime":2733.84,"body":"Well, thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2733.84,"endTime":2736.06,"body":"doing this. Dale. I appreciate"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2733.84,"endTime":2736.06,"body":"it. Thank you and be in touch."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2736.09,"endTime":2741.19,"body":"Alright, thanks. Again. All"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2736.09,"endTime":2741.19,"body":"right. See you later. 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And make"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2755.44,"endTime":2758.41,"body":"sure to follow down the melvins"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2758.41,"endTime":2761.35,"body":"on social media. And while"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2758.41,"endTime":2761.35,"body":"you're at it, you can give me a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2761.35,"endTime":2764.44,"body":"follow share the episode if you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2761.35,"endTime":2764.44,"body":"enjoyed it. Or if you're"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2764.44,"endTime":2767.53,"body":"listening on Apple podcasts. You"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2764.44,"endTime":2767.53,"body":"scroll down all the way to the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2767.53,"endTime":2769.93,"body":"bottom, you can write me a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2767.53,"endTime":2769.93,"body":"review and let me know what you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2769.93,"endTime":2773.26,"body":"think. I appreciate all your"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2769.93,"endTime":2773.26,"body":"support. It really helps me out."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2773.44,"endTime":2776.17,"body":"Have a great rest of your day"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2773.44,"endTime":2776.17,"body":"and remember to shoot for the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":2776.17,"endTime":2776.62,"body":"moon."}]}