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No, RML okay."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3499.38,"endTime":3503.01,"body":"reform. Okay. 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Sounds awesome. All right."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3623.76,"endTime":3627.54,"body":"Well, thanks so much, Kevin."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3627.54,"endTime":3631.11,"body":"This has been a blast. Alright,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3627.54,"endTime":3631.11,"body":"had a good time here, man. All"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3631.11,"endTime":3636.24,"body":"right, talk to you later. All"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3631.11,"endTime":3636.24,"body":"right, thanks. Bye, bye. So sad"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3636.24,"endTime":3640.05,"body":"that there will never be a rock"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3636.24,"endTime":3640.05,"body":"gang reunion. So I guess I need"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3640.05,"endTime":3643.23,"body":"to win the lotto and make that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3640.05,"endTime":3643.23,"body":"happen. 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