{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":14.099,"endTime":16.769,"body":"Welcome to the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":14.099,"endTime":16.769,"body":"show. If you are watching this"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.769,"endTime":20.399,"body":"on YouTube, do me a favor and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.769,"endTime":20.399,"body":"hit that like button and also"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":20.399,"endTime":23.039,"body":"that subscribe button if you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":20.399,"endTime":23.039,"body":"haven't done that already. You"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":23.039,"endTime":24.899,"body":"can also subscribe to the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":23.039,"endTime":24.899,"body":"podcast wherever you're"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":24.899,"endTime":29.039,"body":"listening in Spotify, Apple"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":24.899,"endTime":29.039,"body":"wherever. My guest today is a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":29.039,"endTime":33.359,"body":"big one Rob DeLuca. He has"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":29.039,"endTime":33.359,"body":"played with George Lynch, Joan"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":33.359,"endTime":37.409,"body":"Jett, Sebastian Bach, UFO, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":33.359,"endTime":37.409,"body":"of course, his own band spread"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":37.409,"endTime":41.789,"body":"eagle. They he's toured with"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":37.409,"endTime":41.789,"body":"Guns and Roses. And he's got a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":41.789,"endTime":46.199,"body":"lot of great stories seems like"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":41.789,"endTime":46.199,"body":"a really great guy and very"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":46.199,"endTime":48.899,"body":"positive says nice things about"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":46.199,"endTime":48.899,"body":"all the people he's worked with."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":49.349,"endTime":53.069,"body":"And I think if you're a regular"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":49.349,"endTime":53.069,"body":"listener to the show, you're"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":53.069,"endTime":55.949,"body":"really gonna like this one. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":53.069,"endTime":55.949,"body":"really enjoyed it. I think you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":55.949,"endTime":60.269,"body":"will, too. Here you go. Okay,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":55.949,"endTime":60.269,"body":"please welcome Rob DeLuca to my"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":60.269,"endTime":61.799,"body":"podcast. How you doing, Rob?"},{"speaker":"Rob De Luca","startTime":62.34,"endTime":65.16,"body":"I'm doing great."},{"speaker":"Rob De Luca","startTime":62.34,"endTime":65.16,"body":"Glad to be here. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":65.61,"endTime":67.68,"body":"Yeah, it's gonna be"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":65.61,"endTime":67.68,"body":"fun. I think we got a lot to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":67.68,"endTime":70.86,"body":"talk about, because you've done"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":67.68,"endTime":70.86,"body":"so much over your career. 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I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3240.029,"endTime":3242.729,"body":"appreciate all your support."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3240.029,"endTime":3242.729,"body":"Have a great rest of your day"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3242.729,"endTime":3244.319,"body":"and remember to shoot for the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3242.729,"endTime":3244.319,"body":"moon."}]}