{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":14.07,"endTime":16.59,"body":"Welcome to the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":14.07,"endTime":16.59,"body":"show. And if you could real"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.59,"endTime":20.04,"body":"quick, if you haven't already,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":16.59,"endTime":20.04,"body":"please hit that subscribe button"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":20.04,"endTime":23.52,"body":"on YouTube or you can subscribe"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":20.04,"endTime":23.52,"body":"or follow wherever else you're"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":23.52,"endTime":27.39,"body":"listening. I appreciate that. My"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":23.52,"endTime":27.39,"body":"guest today is Steve Whiteman,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":27.72,"endTime":31.35,"body":"singer of kicks. 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Right."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1754.61,"endTime":1757.58,"body":"Okay. Well, thanks so much for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1757.58,"endTime":1759.05,"body":"doing this. I'll see you later,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1757.58,"endTime":1759.05,"body":"Steve."},{"speaker":"Steve Whiteman","startTime":1759.44,"endTime":1760.16,"body":"My pleasure."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1760.19,"endTime":1762.86,"body":"All right. Bye. All"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1760.19,"endTime":1762.86,"body":"right. Well, that was a fun"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1762.86,"endTime":1766.28,"body":"little chat with Steve Whiteman"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1762.86,"endTime":1766.28,"body":"singer of kicks, new solo album"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1766.28,"endTime":1768.68,"body":"is out now. It's called You're"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1766.28,"endTime":1768.68,"body":"welcome. It's available"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1768.68,"endTime":1772.19,"body":"everywhere. You can even get the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1768.68,"endTime":1772.19,"body":"physical CD on the kicks website"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1772.22,"endTime":1774.8,"body":"along with all their other"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1772.22,"endTime":1774.8,"body":"albums and lots of really cool"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1774.8,"endTime":1778.7,"body":"merch on their website. So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1774.8,"endTime":1778.7,"body":"follow Steve on Facebook. And I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1778.7,"endTime":1781.34,"body":"think kicks is on all social"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1778.7,"endTime":1781.34,"body":"media, you can follow them as"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1781.34,"endTime":1785.0,"body":"well. And while you're on social"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1781.34,"endTime":1785.0,"body":"media, you can give me a follow"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1785.0,"endTime":1789.26,"body":"and the podcasts and everything"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1785.0,"endTime":1789.26,"body":"and I would really love you to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1789.26,"endTime":1792.26,"body":"subscribe to the show on my"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1789.26,"endTime":1792.26,"body":"YouTube channel. I would really"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1792.32,"endTime":1796.85,"body":"make my day really trying to get"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1792.32,"endTime":1796.85,"body":"my goal of 1000 subscribers"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1796.85,"endTime":1800.54,"body":"there. So that would help me"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1796.85,"endTime":1800.54,"body":"out. In addition to Steve's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1800.54,"endTime":1805.01,"body":"charity for autism. I'm also"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1800.54,"endTime":1805.01,"body":"doing a No Shave November, if"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1805.01,"endTime":1807.53,"body":"you couldn't already tell. It's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1805.01,"endTime":1807.53,"body":"the the reason for this is to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1807.53,"endTime":1810.95,"body":"bring awareness to cancer. And"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1807.53,"endTime":1810.95,"body":"the idea is that you don't shave"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1810.95,"endTime":1814.61,"body":"or get a haircut and you embrace"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1810.95,"endTime":1814.61,"body":"your hair, which of course many"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1814.61,"endTime":1818.09,"body":"cancer patients lose. And then"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1814.61,"endTime":1818.09,"body":"you can donate the money that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1818.09,"endTime":1821.33,"body":"you usually spend on shaving and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1818.09,"endTime":1821.33,"body":"haircuts and grooming products"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1821.66,"endTime":1825.17,"body":"to a cancer charity. So I think"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1821.66,"endTime":1825.17,"body":"we've all known someone who has"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1825.17,"endTime":1828.71,"body":"battled cancer, my own father"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1825.17,"endTime":1828.71,"body":"had prostate cancer and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1828.71,"endTime":1831.5,"body":"thankfully was able to beat it."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1828.71,"endTime":1831.5,"body":"So just something to keep in"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1831.5,"endTime":1835.28,"body":"mind if you're alive right now."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1831.5,"endTime":1835.28,"body":"Be grateful. I am definitely"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1835.28,"endTime":1838.79,"body":"grateful for every one of you. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1835.28,"endTime":1838.79,"body":"appreciate you all. I hope you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1838.79,"endTime":1841.34,"body":"have a great rest of your day"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1838.79,"endTime":1841.34,"body":"and remember to shoot for the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1841.34,"endTime":1841.79,"body":"moon."}]}