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Well, thanks so much"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3885.99,"endTime":3887.85,"body":"for doing this. I'll get this"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3885.99,"endTime":3887.85,"body":"episode out soon. And I'll talk"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3887.85,"endTime":3888.3,"body":"to you later."},{"speaker":"Matt Wake","startTime":3888.48,"endTime":3890.25,"body":"Cool. Sounds good."},{"speaker":"Matt Wake","startTime":3888.48,"endTime":3890.25,"body":"Chuck, let me know. All right,"},{"speaker":"Matt Wake","startTime":3890.31,"endTime":3891.57,"body":"here. Okay."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3891.6,"endTime":3895.29,"body":"Thanks. Bye. Bye."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3891.6,"endTime":3895.29,"body":"Hi. Once again, thanks to Matt"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3895.29,"endTime":3898.83,"body":"wake, follow him on Twitter. He"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3895.29,"endTime":3898.83,"body":"posts some great stuff. 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