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Chuck Shute Podcast
Buckcherry Frontman Josh Todd Returns to Discuss New Music, Shows, Life & more!
Josh Todd discussed his unique pre-show routine, emphasizing hydration and physical preparation. He shared experiences from touring with Skid Row and Steel Panther, highlighting the challenges of close quarters and personal space. Todd reflected on his 30-year sobriety and coping mechanisms like tennis. He praised AC/DC's hospitality during their tour and shared insights into his songwriting process, influenced by true crime and pandemic books. Upcoming shows include a residency in Vegas with Scorpions and dates with Kid Rock. Todd's new album releases on June 13, with videos for "Roar Like Thunder" and "Set It Free" already out.
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Josh Todd's Pre-Show Routine and Hydration
01:42 - Touring with Skid Row and Band Dynamics
03:54 - Evolution of the Music Industry and Band Busses
05:12 - Josh Todd's Role in the Saints of Los Angeles Music Video
06:05 - Steel Panther Tour
07:34 - Josh Todd's Experience with AC/DC
11:02 - New Album, Songs, Influences, Drugs & Pain
15:12 - Josh Todd's Sobriety and Coping Mechanisms
19:23 - Making Songs For Fans Or Yourself
20:51 - Josh Todd's Songwriting Process and Inspirations
23:58 - Upcoming Shows and New Album Release
26:27 - Challenges of Touring and Band Dynamics
28:18 - Final Thoughts and Future Plans
29:20 - Outro
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Chuck Shute:Hey, Josh, thanks for doing this. Yeah, how are you good? Good? Yeah, I'm just, uh, trying to, trying to get the mindset you must have that as a musician, like, you gotta, like, get your mind right for the show, right? You have, like, a routine that you do, of course. Yeah, do you? Can you share some tips for me,
Josh Todd:um, you know, I mean, my process is probably much different than yours, because it's more of a physical job for me. But, yeah, I have all, all the, all the check marks. I gotta do that. You know, I'm a bit I'm a creature of habit, first and foremost. So I gotta do, you know, my process is, you know, I have a regimen as far as, like, how I get my mind right, my voice right, and everything before I walk on, for sure,
Chuck Shute:yeah, cuz I remember last time we talked, you told me that you you don't drink any water. And then that was, like, a huge headline, which I thought, Okay. I mean, it was interesting, but I was, like, I was surprised. That was the part of the interview that the press ran away, ran away with. I guess that's kind of unusual.
Josh Todd:Yeah. I mean, I don't drink any water while I'm performing, but I hydrate a lot before I get on stage, you know. But, yeah, that's part of my process, you know. It doesn't work for everybody. But, yeah,
Chuck Shute:well, I saw you guys recently. I mean, I mean, I seen you before, like, I think it was a festival or something, but then I saw this last tour with with Skid Row, and it was so awesome. That was a great package.
Josh Todd:Yeah, a lot of fun. Yeah, you did okay, yeah. I was just
Chuck Shute:curious, like, what your experiences was, did you I mean, I'm assuming you hang with those guys and stuff, right?
Josh Todd:See everybody, everybody thinks that everybody's palling around, and it's just not that. It's not that, not that way, you know. I mean, both of us are, you know, veterans. We've been doing it a long time, you know. So everybody has their own, you know, way to handle touring, you know. And nobody really bothers anybody. And everybody does their own thing, you know, especially us older guys, you know, we have our own little thing that we got to do during the day. And you know, honestly, you know, you spend so much time together in small spaces that, you know you just want to just kind of chill and, you know, be by yourself sometimes. And you know those moments are you cherish on the road, for
Chuck Shute:sure. Yeah, it's tough because you, you have, I'm assuming you have a bus, and then you share that with your band and and
Josh Todd:crew. Yeah, okay, right, yeah, it's a lot of people. I
Chuck Shute:think Tracy guns was telling me, when I had him on, he said, like, I mean, that will sometimes make or break decisions in the band, like they had to fire somebody because he was snoring too loud. It woke up the whole bit, the whole band, the whole crew. Oh, yeah,
Josh Todd:there's that. There's a lot of guys with hygiene issues, you know, grown ass men, you know, that just they don't want to take showers and they don't want to brush their teeth and they, you know, they stink and stuff like that, you know. I mean, you gotta, you gotta work through all that kind of stuff. But, um, yeah, that's life on the road, you know? Yeah,
Chuck Shute:I think it's just like, this stuff is so interesting. I don't know if that's good or bad, just seeing behind the curtain now, with all these interviews and podcasts and stuff, you kind of see, you know, kind of how the sausage is made, I guess. Whereas back in the day, everyone just assumed everything was so glorious, and there's just, it's girls backstage and party and fun and, like, there's no but like, for you, it's, it's a job, it's work,
Josh Todd:yeah, and it was a job back then, too. I mean, it was just a different time period, you know, and there was a lot more money being thrown at people, as far as, like, when you when you were in this business, as far as what you could make, you know, just from the record, people were selling crazy amounts of records, and, you know, getting huge returns. And, you know, I mean, so it was, it was a lot crazier. And so bands back then probably had band busses where they were just, there was just the band on the bus, and then they had crew bus, you know. So two different busses, you know. So it's now, it's different. You gotta budget, invite your budget smaller,
Chuck Shute:right? And then, like these bands that kind of, allegedly don't get along. They'll, if they're big enough, they get their own bus. And it's like, I think, I mean, that's what I you hear these stories like, oh, Vince Neil has his own bus, and Nikki says, yeah, they all get their own busses and, and, no, no, we get along. We're great, you know, they put their arms around each other, but then they all go to their separate busses. So,
Josh Todd:yeah, but that's a lot, a lot of money. It's a lot of money, right?
Chuck Shute:And I think you're like, and maybe they do get along fine for a working relationship, but it's like, it's like you said, like you want your own time at the end of the I mean, I think, like, even if it was my best friend, I don't really want to spend every waking moment with them. I want to have my own time, to be alone and relax. And,
Josh Todd:yeah, but, I mean, you know, like. Said, I've been sober almost over 30 years. So, um, you know, I have my own, like, spiritual, like, little regimen that I do to, you know, just to be able to deal with everybody in close quarters. And, you know, we all have our little things that we do to to cope and good communication is key, all that kind of stuff. You know what? I mean, yeah.
Chuck Shute:Well, speaking of Motley Crue, was interesting going through, you've been everywhere, you've done so many cool things, but I forgot that you were in, weren't you in the saints of Los Angeles? Music video for Motley Crue,
Josh Todd:yeah, it was, you know, I don't know, I it was very quick. I, you know, nobody's brought that up for a long time. But, yeah, I don't even remember it, honestly, like I was in it, but I think it was very quick.
Chuck Shute:Okay, you're not close with those guys, or, like, guys I know Nikki, you know, he's big on the sobriety things. I don't know if you guys had, like, a bond with that or anything. We're all very
Josh Todd:friendly when, you know, when we have something going on where it involves both of us. But you know, I mean, other than that, everybody's got their own lives and does their thing, you know?
Chuck Shute:Sure, yeah, now, so now you're touring with, are you still doing shows with? Still Panther? You still have some coming up, right?
Josh Todd:We just did a huge tour with Steel Panther in Canada. We did a we did over four weeks in Canada, which is a lot of dates up there. We we covered all of Canada, all the West Coast, through the middle to the very farthest east, Nova Scotia. So it was crazy. We had a lot of fun. They're great guys. We We've toured with them before, and, yeah, it was a lot of
Chuck Shute:fun. Yeah, I love that. I've seen them so many times. I think what's so interesting about seal panther is they had this like comedy stick, and I used to go in Vegas, and when it started, it was free, and you could go and just watch them. Was like, Oh, this is for me. Of course, you got to pay for beverages or whatever. But what was interesting is that every night I would see them, it was a different shtick, like they never repeated the same jokes. I was like, did they just think of this stuff on the spot, or they they just prep it the night before, like, and they change it. Or is it so interesting? I probably seen him 15 or 20 times, and it's never been the same jokes, you
Josh Todd:know, it's funny. Those guys are just funny. They're funny off stage, you know. And they just, they're just quick with that. And I'm sure a lot of it is improvised, like you're saying, you know. And I'm sure they have, you know, a bag of tricks, of shtick that they can pull out whenever they need to. They've been doing it for years and years and years. So, you know, repetition is the mother of skill, you know, they they got that, they got that show down, you know. And it's really great. It's a lot of fun to watch.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I saw some article the other day about how Michael star was on a plane and somebody was like, harassing him and saying that he looked like Bon Jovi or something. I was just like, wow, that sucks. Like, if I saw him, I'd want to picture it with him. But hey, that's just me. He's a sweetheart. Yeah, he seems like a really nice guy. So you've done so that show. You did the Skid Row, and you did shows with AC DC. You said that was the best experience, rock experience of your life.
Josh Todd:Absolutely. Yeah, you know, I'll never forget when I first got back in black, you know, that record was, was changed me, you know. And I was so into that record, I used to put it in my back pocket, you know, like a cassette at that point, you know. And I go to, like, house parties and hijack the stereo, and I just put it in and just like, watch people react to it, you know, and just loved it. And then, you know, of course, I got into their whole catalog and, and I just think they're the greatest, you know, hard rock band of all time, you know. And so cut to when we did, we did five shows with them during the time bomb tour, which was our second record. And, and we got to after Madison Square Garden Show, they said, Oh, you can go meet the guys and hang out with them for a second in their dressing room after the show. And we're like, really, and it was amazing. They were all in one dressing room. I'll never forget it. I sat next to Angus and and everybody was just chilling on the couch, just telling jokes, and, you know, Brian was walking around cutting jokes and like, he's super funny and sweet. And they didn't care about taking pictures or anything. They gave us full sound for our show. You know what I mean? They didn't, they didn't clip the sound to make us, you know, not as loud as them. You know, like a lot of bands do on the road and headliners do and, you know, Angus, his wife, was like, making hot tea for everyone. It was, it was really a neat experience.
Chuck Shute:Hmm, that is interesting. Do you find that some of the bigger people like that, like AC DC and Alice Cooper and stuff? Do they do? They kind of make fun of are they self deprecating sometimes, because I had this actor on the show, and he's he worked with, like George Clooney. And he said, he said, all the people like that. He said, George Clooney, he always makes fun of himself. He talks about how he was fired from Roseanne and and he talks about all his bad acting experiences. Do you ever find musicians where they talk about their bad shows or bad albums?
Josh Todd:Oh. I don't know. Maybe that is a, maybe that's something they throw out, you know, like a defense mechanism. I have no idea. But now I haven't experienced that, you know, like, Angus was just like a sweetheart, you know, and I just asked him a lot of questions about his career, and he answered them honestly. And, you know, it was like, it was really neat. And then I just, I got comfortable, and I just hung out, and it was nice, you know, and I just listened. And there's a part of the, you know, the just the camaraderie. And then we left, yeah,
Chuck Shute:I think they're back on. I need to see that. I saw them in 95 on the ball breaker tour. I don't if you remember that one, but they, it was so cool. It was one of the coolest openings I've ever seen for a concert. They had this big ball, and it knocked down this wall, and then they came out, and I was like, wow, that was one of the coolest entrances I've ever seen for a rock concert. That's
Josh Todd:cool. No, I didn't see that particular tour, but, uh, like a wrecking ball, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. I think I've seen it on, you know, footage of it,
Chuck Shute:yeah. So this new album you've got, you guys have, I thought I was so clever, because I was like, you know, putting my little notes for the songs. And I was like, come on. I was like, Oh, that kind of sounds like AC DC. And then I heard all these other interviews, and everyone said that, and I was like, Yeah, well, I guess I'm not that original. So everyone's saying that, though, but that is a good song.
Josh Todd:Yeah, thank you. Yeah. The music definitely sounds like ACDC. But we've been doing ACDC sounding songs since our first record. You know? I mean, we're huge fans and but once you throw my voice on it and melodies and all of it, it's just, it turns into a Bucha song. But, um, yeah, a lot of people have been referencing AC DC on that song. It's funny, yeah,
Chuck Shute:well, it's interesting because you're, you were saying, like, the back in black but what year was that? Because initially you were really into, like, punk music, right? And then you got into more the classic rock, like, initially you didn't even heard Black Sabbath or any of these guys. And this shit is pretty cool, too, you
Josh Todd:know? It's funny you bring up Black Sabbath because I, I surfed with my son this morning, you know? And the first time I heard Sabbath was after surfing. I was a teenager. I was stoned. You know, I'd smoked a joint and fucking I had a friend who had this, this bug, and the only thing that had money in it was, was the stereo system. I was like, literally sitting on two giant speaker boxes in the back, in the back seat, stoned and war pigs, he turned up. He put on war pigs and turned it up. And I was like, what my thought? My fucking brain was melting. I was like, What the fuck is this, man? This is dope. And, you know, that's that was my introduction to Black Sabbath, you know. Because, like you said, you know, all my early records are independent Punk Rock Records, you know. So that's why, when I heard back in black, that was the first AC DC record that I'd heard, I didn't know that there was all these ones before that with a different singer, you know. And I just, I just was down, you know. I liked it because it had grit, you know. It was not polished, in my opinion, you know, and I could relate to it, and it was cool, yeah.
Chuck Shute:I mean, you reflect back, I mean, like you said, 30 years, or whatever, sobriety, but you reflect back on some of that stuff, like the song you have on the new record, Blackout. I mean, you're talking about when you would black out when you were drunk in the day.
Josh Todd:Yeah, I was a blackout drinker. I could not hold I'm a very skinny guy, and just by nature, always have been and couldn't hold my liquor. I was a blackout drinker. And so those are about more of the fun stories of blacking out, like when I was really young, and then it got pretty dark, you know? But, yeah, that's why I love that song. That's my favorite song on the record, really.
Chuck Shute:Okay, so some of the memories of the drug and alcohol, they some of it was positive that you can look back, you don't
Josh Todd:want to go back, of course. No, I had a lot of fun drinking and using for a lot of years, and then it just, it started becoming not fun and just wrecking my life and and had to do something
Chuck Shute:about it. Yeah. Well, that's what's interesting. Like, in the song, roar like thunder, you have a lyric like, time as a teacher, how will I change? And if I had a choice, I'd feel no pain, but pain a teacher too. Like, isn't that how we learn to change? I mean, you wouldn't have gotten sober if you hadn't had pain. Yes,
Josh Todd:tremendous amount of pain. And we've written a song called pain. It's, I love that song. That's the best song you ever wrote. I think, in my opinion, thank you. Yeah, it's a great song. But, you know, listen, I nobody likes going through pain. You know what I mean, even though you know that you're going to get to a new level and all that intellectually, you know, you can think about it that way, but you know, deep down inside, ah, since I was a kid, all I wanted to do was have fun and party. You know what? I mean, I just wanted to that. I wanted to die young, and, like all of that, I wanted to go out in a fucking, you know, ball of flames and burn it down. And, you know, just, I just had a lot going on inside of me, and I just thought that was like going to be the. The most fun for me, you know, I never thought I would live to 30, honestly. So, you know that, being said, I didn't want to feel any pain. I wanted to figure out a way to not feel pain for the rest of my life, you know, and and I just couldn't figure it out.
Chuck Shute:So how did you so what shape? Because I'm assuming you still have that. Like Nikki six talks about, you know, like, how he's sober now, but he's like, I still burn. So that's why they, I think they were doing, at one point, he was doing, like, skydiving and shit like that. Like, right? You play tennis and you're dirt bikes. Is that how you kind of use that fun energy that you want to just do crazy shit?
Josh Todd:Well, I've, I, I've loved competing since I was a kid. You know what? I mean, I was in a lot of sports, and Pop Warner sports, Pop Warner, football, soccer, baseball, you know, when I was a kid, and I just like to I like to win. I like to figure out how to win, you know. And at one point I was racing go karts, and it was just taking so much time away from my family, and already have enough time away. And, you know, because it take me an hour to drive out to the track, and it was starting to become a money pit as well. It's a lot of money to start to race go karts and and so I'm like, fuck this. I sold all my shit. And I'm like, I gotta find some something, you know, and I had a friend who played tennis when I was a kid, and I just remember that, and I just started working on it. And, you know, tennis is so great because there's literally so many aspects to the game that you gotta figure out to get really good, and it's a chess match, and, you know, it's very physical. I can't think of anything else when I'm when I'm on court, than winning and trying to figure out how to beat my opponent and and that is so therapeutic for me, because I have to get away from life, the rat race. I gotta get away from that, and I gotta get away from music, you know, and it's so, it's really, it's really good for me.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I'm a big Seahawks I know if you're I don't think you're sports fan, but I'm a Seahawks fan. I know their old coach, Pete Carroll, talked about, there was some book about tennis and about how to and it's like, he used that for coaching, like his philosophy, it was like, yeah, it was, I forget what it's called, but I don't know if are you familiar with that? You know I'm talking
Josh Todd:about, no, but I I can understand why. You know, anybody would say that about tennis. It's, it's, it's a very humbling sport too. Like, no matter how great you get, you win a match, and you just think, like, I'm gonna start just killing I'm gonna be winning all the time. And then the next match, you'll be, you know, knocked right down to, you know, size again. And you'll have to figure out, like, Why did I lose that? What was I not putting together? You know, tennis IQ is all is a huge thing. Like, you can, you I can go on and on about tennis. I mean, you can, you can have a great forehand and backhand and volley and a great serve, but if you don't put it all together the right way, you'll get beat, you know, by a clever opponent, you know. So that's why I love it. It's really challenging. Yeah, no,
Chuck Shute:that's just interesting. I'm just like, when I hear you say that it almost brings parallels to, well, for me podcasting, because I could have a really good interview, a good podcast, and the next one will bomb. But I'm assuming that's similar for music, right? Like, it's strategy, like there's ups and downs, like you can have a great album or two, or whatever show, and you think you're on top of the world, and then the next one might not go as well.
Josh Todd:Well, yeah. I mean, listen, at some point when you're making a record, you got to say, as an artist, this is it. This is the record. We got to shut the door on this and call it a day, you know, and roll the dice and see what people think you know. But you know, after all these years, we know what a bad a bad song sounds like we know when something isn't working, you know, and we're not going to put it out. And, or, or, you know, just carry on without when we're feeling like that. So we just continue to work until we feel like we got the we got the record, you know. And, and that comes with experience and and being consistent. You know what I mean? I don't know how bands go years and years and years without dropping records. You know? I gotta be working that muscle every two years, like we have a we have a cycle, you know, we we put out a record every couple of years. I've noticed
Chuck Shute:that, yeah, because I think the last time we talked, it was like almost exactly two years ago, 2023 with the with the last album. So do you feel like with when you say you make a great record? Are you making a great record for the fans or for yourself or something in between? Because that's what I've noticed with podcasts like sometimes I think there's a really good interview, and I'm like, oh my god, the world needs to hear this. This is the greatest interview ever, and it gets like 40 views. And so it's like, people want certain things. And like, I know what people want. They want, the drama, they want, the gossip, they want that that's the shit they want. But it's like, but I want something deeper. Like, do you ever feel that way? Like, you probably know if you make crazy bitch part two, that's gonna be the biggest thing. But maybe you want to write a song like pain, because it's fucking deeper. And. It's like, a more It's more meaningful to, you know,
Josh Todd:whatever you think is gonna work out is always the opposite, you know, it's you don't want to, you don't want to chase crazy bitch, because it can, you can never get anything that's going to be that big. You know what? I mean, like, you have to just accept that that was the peak right there, as far as, like, you know. And you can get a peek like that, but you have to, you know, have a different subject, different song, or whatever, you know. What I mean? It's got to be fresh, you know. And what I've learned over the years is that, first and foremost, I did this because it was the only thing that continuously made me happy, you know what I mean. So I do this for myself because I really love music to this day. And I love coming up with a great melody. And I love, you know, I've, I've written all the words in on Bucha records, you know. So I really enjoy that, you know, creating a, you know, where you know songs are like short stories, emotions, you know. And it's a documentary of my life, really, but I you have to take a little bit of your personal life, and then you have to listen to the lives around you, and you have, you know, I have to read books, and I have to do all kinds of things to study storytelling and songwriting. And, you know, anyways, that being said, you know, I do it for myself and for the audience, you know, it's not just one of the other. You know, I think about our audience when I'm writing songs and what's going to resonate with them. And, you know, and subject matters and all that stuff. And, you know, simplicity is also an art form. You want to make it simple so that people can, you know, remember it, you know, very quickly and, and that's how you get hit songs.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, oh, that's really fascinating. I'm more I'm interested in what you said about, you know, your songwriting process. Like you read books. What kind of books do you read that inspire you to write music? Always
Josh Todd:true crime. I read so much. Yeah, I'm a true crime fanatic, you know, so or I'll read books on pandemics before, before COVID 19, I read a lot of books on pandemics. There's a book called the hot zone. It was about the Ebola virus. And I really love that book. I mean, I just, I love reading, you know. I mean, especially on the road, it's, it's fun to just sit and be quiet and go, you know, and create a whole, you know, visual storyline in your head when you're reading. It's it's great,
Chuck Shute:yeah. So are some of these songs on this new record inspired by books that you wrote about stories. Well,
Josh Todd:some of the songs in the past, like broken glass, was inspired by the art of war. Let's see on on one of these records, volume 10, I think, was inspired by true crime. I wanted to write from like, you know, a perspective of, like, a sociopath, you know. And because I always liked that song, Every Breath You Take that the police wrote, you know, it's about a stalker, you know, I, when I first started, I thought it was the love story, but it's not. It's a, it's a stalker. And I thought,
Chuck Shute:yeah, one way, love story, not both ways. Yeah.
Josh Todd:I thought it was a, you know, a very clever way to approach a song. And, you know, people can interpret and attach themselves to a song any way they want to. That's what's wonderful about songs, you know. But the person writing it, that was his perspective. And I love that, you know. So I wanted to do that, you know. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:I think it's interesting too, that. So originally, the first single on this record was going to be let it burn, but then, oh, it was like, the fires are going on, let's Yeah, but until you got that at the end of the record. But that is a really cool song, I could see that does sound like a single.
Josh Todd:Yeah, it's a great song. We wrote it way before the fire started, and it just wasn't an appropriate time to drop it, you know. And we just did a video for it, actually a live video that came out really good, and we'll be dropping that some somewhere down the line.
Chuck Shute:Okay, yeah, okay, that's so, so that'll be a it just won't be the first single, but it could be a future single? No,
Josh Todd:the first thing I'll already drop is, yeah, yeah, yeah. So,
Chuck Shute:okay, yeah, awesome. So this album comes out June 13. No, wait, there 13th. June 13. Yeah, June 13. And they're saying, I think there's the video for roar, like, I just watched that. That was fun too. Is that? Yeah, there's
Josh Todd:two videos out right now. Roy like thunder and set it free. And there's also a lyric video to come on and you get all three of those songs. You pre order the record right now, and it's a great record. Gonna love it?
Chuck Shute:Yeah, is it? Can you get the vinyl and all that stuff too? Because that's a big thing that some people are really into the vinyl. Yeah,
Josh Todd:there's there's vinyl. You just got to go to bucha.com for all that, and you can pre order the vinyl and all that.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, let's say, what else do you guys got any other show, big shows that you're excited about coming
Josh Todd:up? Lots of shows. We got a residency in Vegas coming up in August with the scorpions. We're really excited about that. We're going to be playing with Kid Rock coming up. That's that's very going to be a lot of fun. And we're. We're putting together some package tours right now. I don't want to mention until it's done, but yeah, we'll be, we're going to be touring a lot with a lot of other great acts as well. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:I saw that you're coming. I'm in Arizona here, and I saw you're coming to play in Parker. And I'm really intrigued by that show because it's on, I don't know if you've ever been there, but this is going to be a great show for you, because it's on the river and it's gonna just be, it's like, there's gonna the stage is, like, partly a dock, and then there, I think there's boats, and there's pool CD, there's all these different places you can watch it from, like, a great idea. Whoever put this together?
Josh Todd:Yeah, I think we've played out there before. We've done a lot of shows in Arizona, you know. So that'll be nice. Hopefully it'll be the one time we walked on stage in Arizona. It was 110 Yeah, it's crazy. I'm
Chuck Shute:trying to think of, I think this is in is it July or but Parker's a little bit cooler, and if it's in the water, people will be like, in the pool and stuff. I don't you guess?
Josh Todd:Yeah, hopefully we'll get a little breeze off the water. That'd be nice at
Chuck Shute:night. Yeah, it's not because 110 that's more like Havasu or like Phoenix. Yeah, so Parker's a little bit cooler, but yeah, do you like doing the outdoor shows as opposed to the I mean, if the weather's nice,
Josh Todd:I like it all, you know, I don't. I don't care. It's all the same process for me and the span, you know, we just want to be the best we can be for that moment of time.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, I just, my problem with the indoor show sometimes is they got to have good acoustics, because I noticed that if it's echoey, I'm like, Dude, this is not sound good, and it's not the band's fault. It's the venue, right,
Josh Todd:right? Yeah, there's nothing we can do about that, you know, it's, it's like, we got to just concentrate on what we're doing and hope that, you know, people are having a good experience.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, no, for sure, that's all like you have a manager that takes care of all that shit. I would, I would think I would hate as a music I would hate doing all that crap. Like
Josh Todd:we have a tour manager, I have a manager. I also have, you know, a booking agent. We have it all that's
Chuck Shute:nice. So you can just focus on writing songs, singing and doing all the fun stuff. Yeah? I
Josh Todd:mean, you know, I have to put my business hat on a lot as well, you know, but I'm used to that at this point, yeah?
Chuck Shute:Like, with, with, uh, with lineup and stuff like that. Like, that's, that's all you, right? You're deciding who's going to be in the band and all that sort of thing, right? Absolutely.
Josh Todd:Yeah, it's not all me. I listen to I listen to my team, I listen to me and Stevie, we talk about everything. And yeah, we make, we make sound decisions together. But yeah, ultimately, do you have advice
Chuck Shute:for younger bands with things like that, with with lineups and things like, Do you ever think that you trusted the wrong people? Because you seem like a pretty nice guy, and I feel like sometimes nice guys get taken advantage
Josh Todd:of. I'm not a nice guy. I'm not, you're not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not an asshole. I'm just, I like to work, you know? I'm definitely a workaholic. And sometimes this band wears people out, you know, and you got to make changes, you know. Listen, you're only as strong as your your worst link in the chain, you know what I mean. So you gotta, you have to make changes. Did I know it was gonna go this way? You know? Yeah, I'd have been nice to have the same lineup for your the whole, our whole career, but it's very hard to sustain that, you know, over two decades, which is what's going on, you know. And and anytime we've made a personnel change, you know, it's always gotten better. And that's always the goal. It's like, well, this isn't working. Let's figure out why it's not working, and let's make some changes. And yeah, it's going to be uncomfortable for a second, and then, you know it's going to get better.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, and so, I mean, do you keep in touch with former members, or you keep peace with them? Or do you have bad blood with some of them, or I
Josh Todd:don't keep in touch with them, because there's nothing really to talk about, and there's no it's nothing personal. It's just that, you know, we parted our ways for a reason, and everybody goes on with their lives. It's not, it's not like,
Chuck Shute:it's nothing personal, yeah, gotcha. Okay, cool. Well, this album is, like I said. It's out June 13. You're gonna be on the road. You got awesome shows coming up, and I hope to catch you in that Parker, one that looks like fun absolutely
Josh Todd:see on my rock show. It's gonna be great. Thanks so much. Bye. Bye, take it easy, buddy. Bye, from the rocket ship. Kind, from the rockets to the wise men soon and Fauci.
