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Chuck Shute Podcast
Living Colour's Vernon Reid Talks New Solo Record, Plans with Living Colour & More!
Vernon Reid discussed his new solo album, recorded partly at Super Giraffe Sound and featuring collaborations with Greg Tate's band Burnt Sugar, DJ Logic, and others. The album includes licensed audio snippets and spoken word recordings, including a subway performer. Reid highlighted the eclectic nature of the album, crediting co-producer Ivan Julian and mix engineer Scotty Hard. He also reflected on themes of accountability over revenge, personal regrets, and the impact of losing friends like Greg Tate and Ronnie Gray. Upcoming plans include a potential headlining tour and new material for Living Colour, with a focus on maintaining a balance between solo projects and the band.
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Recording New Album & Guests
02:30 - Good Afternoon Everyone & NY Life
05:30 - Seattle History & Living Colour Live
07:35 - Making the New Solo Record
09:30 - Dying to Live Cover Song
11:25 - Moby Dick & Revenge
15:25 - New Song "The Haunting" & Regret
22:10 - Meaning of this New Album & Dedications
23:53 - Life is Fundamentally Unfair & Betrayal
26:05 - Success, Fame, Happiness & Early Death
30:10 - Beautiful Bastard, Solo & Story
33:30 - Ending Promotions
34:29 - Outro
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Chuck Shute:How are things? Where are you now?
Vernon Reid:I'm in, I'm in Shaolin, aka Staten Island. I'm in, I'm in the The Man Cave, also known as hoarder gear hole, also known as the Dharma lab.
Chuck Shute:Oh, okay, is that where you recorded this newest
Vernon Reid:album? I'm a bit some of it. Mainly, I recorded at uh, super giraffe sound, um, Ivan Julian spot in DUMBO.
Chuck Shute:And who did you have gas? You must have had guests on this album, because it sounds like there's so many different sounds. And I'm thinking, this is not just all you that made this. You must have, no,
Vernon Reid:no, I had, uh, played with the band, uh, burnt sugar, you know, which is Greg Tate's band, you know, a bunch of live things. There's a great, you know, DJ logic played on this record. Yeah, different vocalists, yeah, there were different guests, you know.
Chuck Shute:Okay, that makes sense. Yes, I was like, Wow, there's so many different now, how do you get all the spoken word things? Is it hard to get the rights for that, because it sounds like you took snippets of different movies or TV.
Vernon Reid:Some stuff is in the public domain. Other things were found, were found, and yes, and some of the stuff was licensed, is like, licensed like, like, in black fathom the black Fathom Five, you know, that's all it has, like, licensed, like saying, you know, like sampling CDs, you know, licensed audio snippets from movies,
Chuck Shute:okay, because that one sounds like, it's almost like a, like a beat poetry kind of, is that you just speak. It's like a spoken,
Vernon Reid:oh no, that's, that's, that's, that's beans, that's the rapper. Who's he's got, I mean, he is. He talks incredibly fast. That's beans, yeah, to their two rappers on this, nyronic is on, is Good afternoon on Good afternoon everyone. And beans is on black, Fathom Five,
Chuck Shute:okay, yeah. I think the good afternoon everyone that definitely had some spoke some, yeah, some spoken
Vernon Reid:word. I recorded that. I literally recorded that person in the subway, in the New York City Subway, yeah, yeah. It was, he was, it was, it was amazing, because he just was Good afternoon. He was incredibly polite. And he said, he said, the same sequence, good afternoon, everyone, can anyone help me with something to eat today? Good afternoon. Everyone, can anyone help me with something to eat today? Yeah, yeah. And, and what was so amazing about it was that he was so well spoken, and his rage was completely tightly controlled, you know, he, I felt that, but he also stayed unfailingly polite.
Chuck Shute:So you did, but you sensed a rage. Oh
Vernon Reid:yeah, is, if there's anyone who's not ungrateful for what they have in their life, could help me with something to eat today, you know, he, that was, that's one of the phrases that he throws in if there's anyone who's not ungrateful for what they have in life that can help him with something to eat today, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Everyone
Chuck Shute:that's Do you think he was suffering from mental health issues or drug issues or just just poverty?
Vernon Reid:I think, I think I he didn't seem crazy to me. He seemed very he seemed he wasn't, he wasn't wild eye. He was he was just, he was very focused, and that my and I'm sure, I'm sure I'm, certainly, I'm, I'm, don't doubt that he was, that he wasn't suffering some form of trauma. But I didn't get the, I didn't, certainly didn't get the idea of drugs from this person.
Chuck Shute:Interesting. Yeah, New York is such a it's an amazing place. So many interesting people. I didn't get to explore when I went, I was just in the, you know, the main Manhattan. I didn't get to go to, like, all the I think I we got to, like, the Brooklyn Bridge. That was about as far as we but I didn't go to Brooklyn or Staten Island, all those other suburbs. Oh, yeah,
Vernon Reid:you got to get gay man best pizza in, you know, Staten Island, we will claim it. You know, there's, there's an ongoing fight about who makes the best pizza. Staten Island will win, really, even though I am a Brooklyn even though I am a Brooklynite. So,
Chuck Shute:okay, yeah, I need to explore. It's just such a fascinating area. I mean, I'm from Seattle originally, but there's so much more history on the East Coast, like some of those places, have been there for I think I went to some bar that George Washington drank at which I was like,
Vernon Reid:that's what Francis tavern was a Francis tavern.
Chuck Shute:It was the one where was like, the ground was like, sawdust or something. It was crazy. Wow.
Vernon Reid:I know that. I know that there's, there is. Is Francis tavern. Is the is the oldest continue it's the oldest bar or the oldest continuously operating restaurant in the states, if I'm not mistaken, yeah, and that goes back to revolutionary war times.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, it's, it's crazy to see on that East Coast, like I said, Seattle. I mean, we got history. We have, like, an underground city that's so fascinating too. But yeah, the East Coast, it's like a whole and I haven't, I never been to Europe, and all any of the world, there's so much crazy history, I find
Vernon Reid:that I like how you toss up underground city just like, oh, there's an underground city thing, yeah,
Chuck Shute:yeah. Like, what's happened with Seattle is the city burned down. And so instead of tearing it down and rebuilding it, they just built a new city on top of the old one. That's really bizarre. So the old stuff, go underground and see it. I don't know if you've ever done that. I have
Vernon Reid:not. I have to do that the next time we're going to be living color, we're going to be there in September. I would love to see the underground city. I always go to the to the to the market, to the Pike Place, yeah, yeah, I saw it. I
Chuck Shute:saw you guys. I'm in Phoenix now, and I saw you guys open for extreme. And I just, I That's why, when I saw your name come up that you were doing press, I was like, Oh, I gotta get you on. Thank you. Yeah. You guys killed it at that show, I mean. And no offense to extreme, they they put on an A plus show, but you guys are, like, a plus plus plus. Like, I was blown away at how good you guys sounded.
Vernon Reid:And, well, thank you. You know. Well, you know, Hey, man, Nuno is Nuno, but we did have a good show that day. We did have a good show.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, you feel the emotion you got. You guys just you're clicking on all cylinders. I think you did. You did it. Did you do a Prince song? You did some comments,
Vernon Reid:nothing. We did nothing compares to you. That. Yeah, nothing compares to you. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:yeah. I mean the solos and stuff. I mean, it blew me away. I couldn't believe it. All Right on, man, right on, yeah. I was a fan before, but then now I'm like more, you know, Die Hard. I think I I want to see you do a head. Are you going to be doing a headlining tour? Is that the next
Vernon Reid:Yeah, man, we're thinking about it, thinking about bands that we could go with. And, yeah, we're talking
Chuck Shute:about it. Oh, really. Okay, so which bands do you think you would go? Yeah, talk about,
Vernon Reid:can't talk about that just yet. Okay, we're still talking about it.
Chuck Shute:What about a new record for him for loving color?
Vernon Reid:Yeah, yeah. We're, um, in the right, in the writing process. We started writing. We started for a few months. Now we're in the writing process. The other thing
Chuck Shute:that's exciting, yeah, I mean, I love this new solo stuff too. This, this seems like you just, it's like you just had so much fun making it, like I bet you just had because you could do whatever you want. It's your record. You don't have to worry about compromising with band members.
Vernon Reid:Yeah, I did. I did really enjoy it, and I enjoyed working with Ivan Julian. You know, who was the engineer, and I credit him as a co producer, because, you know, he's a legend in his own writing. He played with Richard hell in the voidoids, and he's just a great engineer as well as great guitar player. And then I also worked with Scotty hard, who mixed the album, and Mike Tucci, who mastered it. We were a good, really good team.
Chuck Shute:Yeah, did you have a vision of how that whole album would be? Is because it seems to be more eclectic, like you kind of were like rules.
Vernon Reid:It is very eclectic. I did want it to be from tune to tune. I mean, it moves all over the place, but there is, there is connective tissue going through it. There is a connective there's a connective feeling going through the album, even with, even with the fact that it is, I admit, it's all over the place. And part of that is, you know, what was great was working with, working with the mixing, our mix engineer, you know, he helped to pull things together and deal with edits and things like that. Like, he, he certain tunes, he even shortened them, and they just fit better because they got to the, they kind of got to their point, you know, just faster than if, you know, like, then if, instead of, like, there being four solos, okay, let's just have two, you know, like that, you know stuff. So he saw, yeah, yeah,
Chuck Shute:yeah. It's amazing how you put this all together. Like the song dying to live. It's such a slow down. It's a kind of a sad, emotional song with a great solo. It's, it's, only has, it has a calming vibe, but then it kind of ends stressful, if that makes sense. That's getting from it,
Vernon Reid:yeah, man, well, that's a great Edgar Winter Song, and it's a tune that I've always,
Chuck Shute:oh, that's a cover. I didn't know that. Yeah,
Vernon Reid:yeah, no, that's a song that I've always loved, dying to live is, is a cover and, and unfortunately, the the singer of that song, you. Passed away. I recorded it a while back, and we recorded a while back, and then I found it and and resurrected it, and then put new drums, new guitar, you know, new bass and, and, but I kept one thing, and that's the DJ logic does this whole kind of almost like whale song, whale sounds, and it gives it a quality, I didn't even realize how much, because when we did one of the early mixes, we took it out, and then it just, it kind of did work. You know, it just felt weird. And we put the whales, you know, the whale sounds back in. And there's a feeling of mourning, even though it's non human. That really helps to frame the words and the lyrics. And it's, it's kind of like, like, this non linear thing that you think, what is that, but it, having lived with it, now, you know, I it couldn't be on the record without it,
Chuck Shute:yeah? No, I thought it was. It almost sounds like, like, like a puppy wailing or something like, it was a very, very interesting sound,
Vernon Reid:yeah, kind of funny, man. I just, I just re read Moby Dick. This I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole, but, but, I tell you, if you want to learn about whaling Moby Dick.
Chuck Shute:Oh, okay, yeah, I don't think I've ever read that book. I'm surprised. I didn't make a movie of that. Or maybe they didn't. They did
Vernon Reid:make a movie with Gregory Peck. They did make a movie with Gregory Peck but, but, but, but, after reading it, it's kind of a lot. It's a long, long book. It's absolutely it's something James Cameron should have made Moby Dick after Titanic, because it's such a it's an incredibly dramatic story. And it's really about man seeking revenge from nature, you know, like in seeking and it's about, it's about the the cost of seeking revenge. It's about the cost of, you know, what, what? What are you willing to sacrifice to seek revenge?
Chuck Shute:You know, that's interesting. How do you feel about that, you know, for your wisdom of over life. Do you think revenge is worth seeking? Because I feel like, the older I get, the less revenge full I feel like, I feel like,
Vernon Reid:I think accountability. I think accountability and justice over revenge. Accountability like, you know, like anybody that's been wrong has the right to tell their story. It has the day of the right to tell this story without interruption, without Oh, but, you know, without the no like this is what happened to you. And yeah, revenge is they say, if you, what they say, if you, if you want to, if you want to seek revenge, make sure to to break to to make sure to dig two graves, you know, instead of one, right? Yeah, yeah. I think accountability, revenge is, I think it's the, you know, it's re traumatizing. Seeking revenge on a certain level brings you, you never get away from the ill feeling. It's firing, and revenge is what's firing the ill feeling. That's why they say revenge is a dish best served cold, you know, without emotion. So, you know, I don't know, man, the other thing too, is, if you're seeking revenge, you should know for certain, for certain that the one you're seeking revenge against was fully cognizant of what they were doing. Like they did this thing to they, like they went out of their way to do this to you, as opposed to a mistake, an accident, a miscommunication, you know, and like the like saying, I'm going to get I'm going to get revenge. You should know all the facts before you go that far. You should know all of them, and you should know them cold. You should know them without your anger because you did something went down that you didn't like, so you're angry about it, but just being angry about you, you know what it's like somebody cuts you off when you're driving. You don't know that they have to get somewhere or they've got a sick person in the. Are, or, you know, it could be anything, or they could be having a medical emergency, or, you know, so before we assume that they decided to mess with you, you know, but before it becomes an incident, now you're just reacting, you might need to know a little bit more anyway.
Chuck Shute:Blah, blah, yeah, no, it's a fascinating topic. I always think of that. So, I mean, because your newest song, the haunting, I mean, that's about you looking back and looking back on your life, and procrastination, regret and those kinds of things, right? Yeah,
Vernon Reid:yeah. It's about, it's about, it's Yeah, because it's not, it's procrastination is one thing, but it is about regret. It's also about being haunting. The haunting. See, I named the haunting because, you know, we're fascinated with ghosts and like that. So, okay, I don't know about that, but I do know. I don't don't know about the supernatural. I do know you could be haunted by missing the last shot of your championship basketball game, you can be haunted about the car accident that you caused, right? You can be haunted about a missed opportunity, about you should have returned that email. You should have opened that envelope. You can you you should have returned that phone call. You can be haunted. And I think in every life there is something, something can be small, it could be major, and it can run your life.
Chuck Shute:That's interesting, because I when I look at you. I go, wow, this guy has done it all. He's won Grammys. He's played with Mick Jagger and Janet Jackson and BB King and Santana and all you know, your your career and your your life, that I could see is, is amazing. Is there something it
Vernon Reid:is it is amazing, and I'm thankful for? No, I'm thankful for, yeah, but I've, you know, they're things that I messed up. They're things I messed up with people. There are things that I've opportunities as you know, that I missed because I didn't, you know, I mean, I'm a human being. I made I've made my mistakes. I fortunately have not made the kind of mistakes, you know, their mistakes and their mistakes. And there are all caps mistakes, you know. And I'm very I feel very fortunate that I haven't made the all caps mistakes, you know. I recently got back together with a friend of mine who I thought that I lost. Hey, babe, I'm on a zoom,
Chuck Shute:you know? Oh, that's great. I love to hear those kind of stories, you know.
Vernon Reid:And but we, it was so interesting that we, we had a period of not talking to each other for a number of years, and we ran into each other, and it was over. I mean, it was the thing that kind of it was over. They were over it, and I felt bad for years, and then we'd started communicating, and it was fantastic. It was fantastic to communicate with this person again. How did
Chuck Shute:you do that? Was it just running into the person? I mean, do you think something had changed, just time had healed it?
Vernon Reid:I think time. I think I actually do believe that it was time. And then you know things you did when you were much younger. You know things you did when you were much younger, or you were in a different circumstance. You know, fortunately, if you're if you're lucky, you could talk about it again. Because, you know, we are go, we are we are we are we are also ghosts to people, right? People talk about ghosting like the lost friend, the lost partner in business, the lost team, the, you know, the person that you just something went down. You you thought they said a lot of times. You know, people make their decision, and that's how they live their life, that's how they protect themselves. And maybe it wasn't what you thought it was. Maybe it's something else. I mean, if you care about people, see, the thing is, you if you don't care about people, there's no problem. There's no problem. You don't care if you don't care about people, then, then there's no problem to speak of. And there are many people that don't care about people, so what I'm talking about is not relevant to them. I'm talking about people that actually have feelings. You. Or you know, or actually think about right and wrong, or feel you know whether was done to them, or whether they did it or or they were suspected of doing it. And that's the haunting is about. It's so it's kind of our procrastination, but it's about those kind of regrets you know that I think come across in many lives, not not necessarily, gonna say, all lives, but in many lives, you know, people are messed up by things. I remember they had the greatest this film, The Greatest Generation, right, was about World War Two, and there was a veteran. It was a veteran, and he shot a German soldier. He shot a German soldier, and he never and he was a kid. He realized he shot someone. He was a kid, and he shot a kid, he's 19, and he shot someone that was like 19 or 20, and it was part of his mission. And in fact, he got the drop on him before he could, before this the soldier could react, he shot him, and he any, any he was still grief. They were interviewing it, and he was still grief stricken over it. And, you know, fortunately, things that dramatic don't happen to most lives. But, you know, I mean, I think, I think a lot of people, they people, I mean, that's what reality TV is for.
Chuck Shute:Well, yeah, I mean, you're right. There's, there's people that I feel like I'm in that category of people who care about, I mean, I care not only about my friends and family, but just complete strangers. I worry about everybody. I want everyone to be happy. And so, yeah, and then you just try to figure out, like, well, what can I do? I think for you, it's like just doing music. I think makes heals the world. I think music brings people together. I think it can change opinions. It can change mood, for sure, and I mean, with this album, it's just amazing what you've done, the emotion that I can feel listening to it.
Vernon Reid:Well, thank you so much. I mean, it's, um, a lot of this, like I said, a lot of this record is because, you know, my friend Greg Tate passed away in December 7, 2021, and it was one of the, it was one of the events that shifted the making of this album. For me. It changed the meaning of it. You know, it changed the meaning of it. And I mean, he's a person I'm grateful for knowing and loving, and he's just a really good friend to me. And I've lost certain other people I made some dedications to, to different people, and the great guitarist, you know, Ronnie Gray, passed in the in the during the making of this record.
Chuck Shute:Gail, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, I mean, you have the song meditation on the last time I see reams. I mean, that's another one that I mean, gone way too soon and way too soon. What a brilliant,
Vernon Reid:what a brilliant, what a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant musician. And, you know, mostly unknown on, you know, known to, you know, maybe, maybe there are 1000 people who know, you mean, who remember him from, you know, as a small amount of people that that that saw him play the saxophone, forget about him and played the guitar. You know play, heard him play the saxophone, or heard him play piano. He just was a singular person. And the one, one great lesson I learned from experiencing Arthur Rheims and knowing Arthur Rheims was life is fundamentally unfair. It's fundamentally unfair, and that the greatest, the best, the most wonderful designers, the bet you know they, for a lot of those folks, go unknown and like friends Kafka, right? Friends Kafka, Max Broder his phrase best friend, when, when friends Kafka was on his deathbed. He, he, he asked his friend to burn all his writings and and Max Broder could, didn't do
Chuck Shute:it. Why did he want him to burn it? I don't get it.
Vernon Reid:Because he was miserable. He was not for he died, he he was not famous in his lifetime. He didn't make any, he didn't, he didn't, I don't think he published any. He didn't make anything. He know he was not. I mean, Franz Kafka redefined literature. His writing redefined literature, but not in his lifetime. Hmm, in his lifetime, you broke and all like his best friend said, man, his friend knew that his friend was a genius. So I think it's incredible that you make your friend promise to you know, because you're depressed and you're you're done with it, you make a friend promise to to burn everything, and then you can't do it. So you think about betrayal, right? We only think about betrayal. We always think about betrayal in one light, right? There's a certain light, and it's that light that all oftentimes leads to revenge betrayal, but Max, broader gave a gift to the world by betraying his friend. There's always a different way. There's always another way to look at a circumstance
Chuck Shute:that is so interesting, and it's interesting for me to see what's popular with people, you know what I mean. And you probably have an opinion on this, because living color, I mean, obviously, you've, you've reached success, you've won Grammys, you've toured with amazing art. But then there's, there might be a part of you that thinks you guys should have been bigger too, right? We
Vernon Reid:should have, would have put up, you know, and it should have, would have put a, you know, like, could have been bigger. Could have been more famous, more famous, more hit songs. So I'm talking to you right. Here's something that's crazy, that is a pointless fact. I was born in 1958 I was born in 1958 Michael Jackson, myself. Michael Jackson, Prince and Sharon Stone were all born in 1958 now the world will never forget Michael Jackson ever, ever Right. They'll never forget Prince, ever, not possible now in time, and I hope it's not. I hope it's no time soon. You know, I'm, I'm not the most famous dude to ever pick up the guitar, but the thing is, we're talking I'm, I'm here for whatever reason. Was born the same year as those dudes, and you gotta ask yourself, well, what would you rather be? Would you rather be incredibly famous and rich? But here's the thing, you're gonna you're gonna die before your 60th birthday, right? Somebody comes to tell you, says you're going to be the most famous, incredible. Your writing is going to you're going to be Wow. They're going to, they tell you, at 40 you're going to be the you're going to all the cars, you're going to have the all the things. Here's the problem, though, you're going to, you know, you're going to have everything the world is coming to your doorstep. The thing is, you're go, you have to leave at 59 they tell you that at 40 or you can go with behind, behind door number two. Door number one, you get to be the ultimate. You get to be the Grand Poobah of everything. 59 you're out on door number two. You don't get to be all that fame. You get a little something. You're not going to be, that you're not going to be, but we don't know when your expiration date is. You're going to keep with it, right? I don't know what's behind door number three, either. And I say, you know what i i I'm happy with all my you know, of course, I have my moments, but you know, my daughter graduated college in May, and you know Michael didn't get to see his daughter graduate college. Prince didn't get the grad Prince, you know. Unfortunately, he should have, he should have had a harem and had a bunch of kids, you know, but I saw my daughter get her diploma. I wouldn't trade anything that they had for that,
Chuck Shute:wow, yeah. I mean, you wonder, too, like that, even the time that they were here, were they happy? Because it seems like, if you dive into it, they may have been suffering. I know prince, I think he was in extreme pain. That's
Vernon Reid:why, yeah, yeah, it was extreme pain. And, you know, then there's, apparently, there's some religious issue with him getting a blood transfusion and all of those things. Anyway, let's let me one more question about the album. Then I think I have to go,
Chuck Shute:Yeah, okay, no, I hear one more question. You. Gosh, let's see what. There's so many great What about the song? Let's see. We talked about dying to live. Whoa. What was the second single, beautiful bastard, that all the I think that that might be my favorite solo. How do you how do you get into that mood to do that and I feel the emotion. How do you get into mode?
Vernon Reid:Well, you know, it was so funny because part of it was playing the melody. There's a little bit of the melody in the in the solo, and then, you know, I had a placeholder solo for a while, and didn't like it at all, and and I vowed that I was going to, that I was gonna change it. And the song is so it's subtle. It's very much in a quite a classic doomed it's a kind of doomed love song, and it's about duplicity. It's about passion. It's about what happens when someone who's wholly unsuitable, you can't get away from who they are. You can't get away from it like the first lines, beautiful bastard, am I your slave this time, or am I your master? Who am who? What are we doing today? What is it? You know, I start to run faster, right? I'm I've got to, I've got to leave you alone. But think of your face, and I'm frozen in place. And it's, it's right, it's very romantic, but it's not at all happy. It's very you know, it's, it's, it's, it's about recognizing, it's recognizing that there are people you should never meet. There really are. There are people. There's whoever you're, whatever gender you're attracted to, but there's a woman that will have you behind the wheel of the getaway car like I absolutely believe it. There there are people. There are people that are fabulous to meet you're destined to meet. And they're people. And I'm not, you know, and I'm not, I'm not talking about the hardcore, the horrible. There are people you should never meet at that bar. You should never Your eyes should never meet, because when that happens, all bets are off.
Chuck Shute:And I think we've all had a girl like that in our oh, oh. I
Vernon Reid:absolutely had, oh, I actually had a particular I had a particular woman in mind when I wrote the song. And it was not good, fabulous, not good. And unfortunately, it didn't end the way the song ends, you know, but it was it, you know. I can honestly say meeting my second wife was the only way I broke the spell. Oh,
Chuck Shute:that's amazing. Well, and you had got a great song out of it. The whole album is great. It's going to be out in October, I believe. And there's two right now. Yeah, two songs are out now that people can listen, follow you on social media and Spotify and all that stuff, or however they listen. Yep,
Vernon Reid:burnt. 22 on Instagram, on on Twitter, I refuse to call it x, on blue sky, on threads, pretty read, on Facebook. And thank you so much. Yeah,
Chuck Shute:thank you so much. I can't wait to and you won't be touring solo music, just but with living color.
Vernon Reid:I'm gonna do like individual shows when I can know I have a show at the blue note on the 24th of September. But you know, of course, my focus is living color. So anytime I can do something with the Hulu telemetry project, I I'm happy. I'm look forward to it. But my focus is Living Color, first and foremost,
Chuck Shute:awesome. Well, thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate it and have a good rest of your
Vernon Reid:day. Hey, man, have a great weekend. All right. You
Chuck Shute:too, bye bye,
THEME SONG:bye, bye.
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