The family lives of lizards are more complex than it seems. In this episode Niamh, Kelsey, and Olly talk to ecologist Tom Botterill-James, about his work studying lizards in east Tasmania, researching how social dynamics are affected by environmental changes and how these social traits have evolved in animals.

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