in this episode, I talk with Patrick Kelly about his experience as an entrepreneur who is walking in his purpose and bridging the gap of generations!
His life's work has to lead him to this moment, where he is passionate about helping Millennials and Boomers understand their differences and work together in the workplace and in life
Co-Authoring the book Millennial Boom with Hans Finzel, Patrick is passionate about this work and it's evident in the conversation.
Millennial Boom is available for FREE on Kindle with coupon in this episode until April 15.
Use these links to get your free copy!
CLICK/COPY LINK: “bit.ly/MillBOOM”
COUPON @ CHECKOUT: MillennialBoomFree
Please make sure if you download the book to post, share, or like our page to add awareness towards generational success!
You can connect with Patrick on all the socials
in this episode, I talk with Patrick Kelly about his experience as an entrepreneur who is walking in his purpose and bridging the gap of generations!
His life's work has to lead him to this moment, where he is passionate about helping Millennials and Boomers understand their differences and work together in the workplace and in life
Co-Authoring the book Millennial Boom with Hans Finzel, Patrick is passionate about this work and it's evident in the conversation.
Millennial Boom is available for FREE on Kindle with coupon in this episode until April 15.
Use these links to get your free copy!
CLICK/COPY LINK: “bit.ly/MillBOOM”
COUPON @ CHECKOUT: MillennialBoomFree
Please make sure if you download the book to post, share, or like our page to add awareness towards generational success!
You can connect with Patrick on all the socials
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Welcome to full bloom Podcast for millennials on a journey to finding purpose and pursuing passion. My name is Martina Lindo, and I believe we can learn from each other's experiences and hopefully help each other to bloom and grow into the people we were always meant to be. Your journey to full bloom starts right now they're listening to bloom season conversations with millennials blooming and their purpose All right, guys, I'm so excited to date have with me Mr Patrick Kelly. Hey, what's happening? I'm so excited to have you got a podcast and actually, whether you go ahead and introduce yourself to the people
spk_1: 0:52
Yeah, everyone s Oh, really? Let's start with I met Martina through pod fast in Orlando. This
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you're stealing my story patch.
spk_1: 1:02
Reese, Tell everybody you can. I was, like, the main thing When Listen, when I saw your podcast, Full bloom and I was, like, millennials. And I was like, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait a bit to get into that. Um, but everyone. My name is Patrick Kelly. I am a small business owner. I co authored the book Millennial Boom, which is helping millennials and boomers thrive together in life and work. And not just two generations, just the two biggies, but all generations Now also, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm always out helping people start. Their business is I've started about seven businesses since I was about 20 years old. Andi Kind of Ah, all around. Keynote speaker and now podcast host. I have a podcast Millennial boom. And I recently just launched a brand new podcast on April 1st called the Produce Industry Podcast.
spk_0: 1:56
Oh, that's exciting. I didn't even know that one.
spk_1: 1:59
That is, like brand new. Um, my, you know, Chris, Kermit. So's right. Definitely. He challenged my mind a little bit, and I realized that this was something that I have always wanted to do. It just we hey pushed me in a different way to start it. And that was last Monday. So I kind of kick this thing off the last seven days.
spk_0: 2:20
Well, well, congratulations. That sounds so fun. And now what's that exactly about?
spk_1: 2:24
So the produce podcast is a little bit different, So think about like this. The produce industry is so complex and it covers a tizzy, literally asparagus through zucchini we're gonna do is we're gonna go through the supply chain. We're gonna talk about supply and demand. We're gonna talk about logistics, innovation, product trends, everything from the grower all the way till when it hits, it hits all the wayto you buying that. You know what I mean? You know? Well, you listen. You could hear crop updates from South Africa from Chile, from California from all these different growing ridges and learn where your produce comes from.
spk_0: 3:00
That's very, very cool. Very cool. So, Patrick, uh, why don't you tell us How did you get into this space fly Millennials.
spk_1: 3:10
So, you know, it was interesting. I was, I would say, about 16 years old, right? A young millennial. You know, it was interesting to me. I have a ah, manager. His name was Mr G. And I remember one day I was stocking the shelves and he said to me, Patrick, I said, Yes. He's like, You want to be another duck? And I was like, What? And he's like, Yeah, he's gonna be another duck. And I talk about this on my podcast is like being a duck in society. And at that point, I kind of realized I didn't want to be a duck, right? Yeah, I said it on this path, right. And then I believe a lot of millennials did. It was like this blueprint life where they're kind of building and finding their way what they like, how they like it. Finding purpose, kind of like, you know, when you talk about right, And, um, I started I got into owning businesses. Very young men. You mean by that is, I started businesses within the produce and supply chain industry, and it was a baby boomer ran industry. Mean every meeting that I went to, Martina, it was like, Hey, um, about another 10 years, you're gonna be just fine. And then 10 you're going by and it was like a another don't 10 years. You're gonna get it. Yeah, it was It was interesting, because to me, I was always I was making money. I was like, Wait a minute, I'm making money, I'm doing things. And the baby boomer generation would just shut me out. And then, really, I am. I met hunts, and we got into this space of talking millennials and baby boomers, and he was an author, and I, you know, blood. My heart to him about all my frustrations and he helped me. And then he told me about his frustrations with millennials and how he worked with them. And then kind of I became really passionate around the subject of not all millennials. Are this Mimi mean Narcissistic? Yeah, Children, we are a strong 82 million population with a lot of innovators, entrepreneurs, businessmen and women. And we get every generation is a bad percentage.
spk_0: 5:21
Yeah, there's always that one set that give us the bad name. And it's so interesting because my mom and I have been talking about this a lot, and she really has it against us that weird like this, really selfish on Lee. Focus on ourselves like not really worried about, you know, their generation. And it's just so interesting to me how that perception has, like, come about to kind of represent a lot of ways and culture what millennials are. So what were you like? If you have to define our generation as an entrepreneur, as somebody who's kind of like been working their way up from the ground, how would you describe our generation?
spk_1: 5:57
I say our generation is a blueprint generation like I just said a little bit earlier. It's We're a generation that sees everything in blueprints and we take each of these blueprints is trialling errors. Right where we go, how we define our lives. I am within the system. We don't work for the system like the baby boomers did. Right? You work within the system. So again I say it this life of trial and error We were We were we grew up. They say all the trophies, all the recognition. And I keep telling me everybody, where's the trophies? Because
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I because I don't have a
spk_1: 6:33
I don't happen to our trophies air. Not that I wish I did. I got some right. But we are generation again, a blueprint and trial and error. And that's why you see, And if you're listening out there, remember, there's gonna be a lot of millennials out there that will change jobs in two years. The passion is just not into it. No one it back in the days and I say the back of the day's baby boomers, they took over power right in their twenties through, you know, late twenties early thirties, as Han said he was a CEO, a 29 for his first big organization. Because after World War Two, the builders were told to retire at the age of 55 which automatically shifted the power over to the baby boomers. Right in our had switched. And so it's been so long now that there's no power switch. So we've been just being told that they've stuck with the same job their entire lives.
spk_0: 7:26
Yeah, it's great. I mean, I I work for industrial supply company that has been around since 1901 and they're like the majority of the people that have been there for 2030 years are all boomers, and they are very content with staying there until they retire. And I'm just like how I could not do this job until I'm retiring. And I'm just curious, like, where does that mentality come from? That sense of not loyalty, but, like, maybe obligation, Where do they? Where does that come from? For them,
spk_1: 8:01
you know, as you know, ha's would probably be able to speak better to that. But if it was through working with Hans, I think about what I just said that the boomers were Children of the builders, the builders think about it all way back. Went to 1910 right? And then the traditionalists through that be thinking about who built Ford, right? Wrong. You think about the people that built America, right? Think about how going through time, East generation. So that you said the baby boomers started this and they didn't. Just so the builders built these companies. But the baby boomers, actually, we're the ones that scaled them and grew them. Yeah. And then, as Han says, they got a sense of material. They went from having nothing in the, I would say in the depression, being dirt poor and then coming to inherently wealthy very, very quickly and not just one or two of them. But if you've noticed the entire generation of baby boomers are all pretty darn wealthy.
spk_0: 9:02
Well, depending on who you're talking,
spk_1: 9:03
Thio, how You're right, you're right. And I apologize for the generalization. But if you look at the baby boomer population where they are to where their kids are at how they how they made their choices angry each Each generation is population. Every culture, every person, every state is different. But a majority of baby boomers have retirement plans. They set things up. Is as younger people, right? So Miss Hans would tell you it is. It's It's a sense of materialism is a sense of pride. It's not. Ego is a sense of that. They've done this their entire lives, and that's been their baby putting food on the table, right?
spk_0: 9:45
Ah, that's very interesting, because I think, I mean, obviously as millennials, we see it very differently in terms of being focused more on feeding our soul and feeding our passion. And I guess what would be like from working with Hans, what would be the top five things that he said he would say that boomers don't like about millennials, especially in the workplace.
spk_1: 10:11
Yeah, Hans would probably tell you that he is the opposite. He'll tell you that all the times that he was one of those baby boomer bosses that always sought change. Oh, wow. Okay, that was so crazy about Hans is when I first met him, I was like, you know, you baby boomers. And he was like, Wait a minute. What do you mean, you baby boomers? And you know, after I explained to him he was kind of like I see what you're saying, So I if Hans was that he would say the generalizations Just like I would say, I don't have top things of baby boomers. There's not really things I've noticed any more. Besides that, there are a lot more generalizations. And if he would say there's top 10 he has top 10 insights, really mostly on how the more work and thrive together than he doesn't seem generalizations. But think about it. Me, that's all about you. Always on their smartphones, huh? Don't care about anybody older, them no respect. I mean, Hans could would tell you the generalizations, but I honestly believe with working with Hans, That seat's open just like I am not working and living with all generations.
spk_0: 11:22
Okay, and why do you think like this kind of conversation is important?
spk_1: 11:26
The location is very important because opportunities being lost every day with corporations across America and not even with corporations with everyday life and people how you communicate. We talk about marriage and family in the book and on the podcast, because your work is very affected by your relationships in and out of the workplace. If your relationship at home, you will build toxic relationships at work. If you manage money poorly at home because of those relations, you will do the same with in your work, right? It leads into it one way or another.
spk_0: 12:04
That was a good answer, actually. Yeah, So, like and it's interesting. So when you talk about those relationships, what do you think is the best way for us to start to foster better relationships with, you know, the generation before us and the one coming after us.
spk_1: 12:21
So we gotta we gotta understand each other, right? And we gotta understand each other as unwary generation comes, comes from we built them, right? Think about it. Everything in the past is what built a baby Or why're they the way they are wise? A millennial the way we are. I remember 9 11 I remember where I was on 9 11 I was in my 10th grade class and Miss Summer Looms classroom. It was HTML website classroom. I recover the plane hitting the second building, watching it on TV, right, And that defined a part of our generation Columbine shootings. So we have to understand each generation just like with the eye Jen's or the Gen Z that's coming up. I mean, we gotta understand that the Corona virus will impact them. Some of them are graduating from high school. Right, Because you're not having any more. This is going to define generations. So before you get out, generalized number one is understand East generation as a human being as a person, do not bash each generation before you know them. You're not here. You're You're a bad person. If you do that, you know, getting to know someone. And that's emotional intelligence. You gotta open up your heart to understand if someone's a good or bad right, You gotta learn to trust you gotta open up those arms, right? And then I would say to think about the things of what boomers on Da Xers and each generation is doing. They're not all workaholics. And don't assume that all of them are all tax savvy. Don't assume that just could use a millennial on their phone. They know what to d'oh. Hey, check this out. Not all of us know what's going on. We bought the same phone that you did and her and learning as well, right? So we understand. So really understanding the journey, right? And they need to take the time. All of us need to take the time to listen to each other. Just listen and understand, And then we don't understand. Don't go to a blank stare or a poker face. Speak up and say, Hey, you know what? Let's come back to this and we'll get a we'll get there.
spk_0: 14:27
Mmm. So I know what I'm listening And what's standing out to me most is that and I guess sometimes we don't really think about it this way. But like in developing and forming relationships in the workplace, you really have to think about those people as you would your own family and, like, you know, fostering good strong communication skills within those relationships. So you said that one of the most important things is listening, right? So what's one thing like, you know, I don't know what the psychological term for it is, but like when you hear what you want to hear and not what the person saying, Do you feel like that? Happens a lot with, um, Millennials and bloomer boomers do like Is there like some kind of communication breakdown that causes this kind of like tension, if that's the right word.
spk_1: 15:19
Yeah, I do. And I'm gonna tell you something that Hans has said and he says, you know, he boomers did not hand millennials a perfect world. Okay, tell you millennials Ahh lot of them generalization because I will not speak for the generation. Um, but most millennials have chips on the shoulder, towards the boomers. Onda re big arenas. Why failed marriages, workaholism and the economy that we've handed to us? Yeah, We've been in two recessions in the last 10 years
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with another one impending.
spk_1: 15:56
So listen, I'm not going to any politics, but I'm gonna say this. I'm open to everything. But it doesn't matter who the president is at this point in my land or in two recessions. Two wars. I mean, I'm to the point now, everybody, you know what I am For every president I am for every person. Because you know what? At this point, I've seen so much crap. Go on. Like you know
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what it is, what it is, right?
spk_1: 16:21
It's well, the dice in the fog at this point because I feel like the only people that are benefiting. Are those one of those people that are You're making it worse for us. You know what I mean? So
spk_0: 16:32
you had a
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guy will get politics on me, but I'm now to the point where every president I voted for. I'm like, man, I loved all you guys, you know? You know, you did a good job too. It's just crazy. You know what I mean?
spk_0: 16:47
Oh, man, I I won't go there. That conversation is for another day. And another always Yeah, but I will say, just in general, looking at how the world is run. If you were to look in our generation now like a millennial that's coming up Who? What would your ideal leader look like? Yeah, who? Who's your ideal leader? Like? If you had to pick somebody from my generation
spk_1: 17:14
or be on post war right now, I'd vote for you. I told you, Know what? I've got a book and I run a lot of journals and I'm not being I was sorry, buddy. There's a very fine line between aired arrogance and confidence. I believe I have a little bit on both sides of the fence that I wrote in my journal one year, and I always go back and look at it and it says I ca NBI your next big thing. You just have to give me the opportunity to show you. Yeah, and I think that, um, the leader that I would look for one, someone that had great emotional intelligence, I cannot stand again, no matter who you are. What puddle politician, you're who I cannot stand that there is no emotional intelligence it within politics. Um, I I don't like there's no emotional intelligence, sometimes with our leaders, right? It's all about money. So, to me, I mean, you gotta have a guy or gal that's got transformational leadership that can go up. Understanding cultures is generation, not judge. And I just feel that that leader has a lot to do again with an emotional intelligence and transformational leadership. And I believe that also goes into servant leadership, which you're serving the people that work for you or follow you. And just like we do, we've got a certain leadership toward the people that follow us on our podcast to deliver them good information and and we're not doing this for for us We're doing it for everybody listening out there. That's we're doing it for you. We're doing this toe. Hopefully this word can get out and spread more toe where we can all live Better somehow, some way, in our own
spk_0: 18:59
way. Yeah, I like that. I think it's important that the leaders that are coming up now really are cognizant of the responsibility that they have to serving people like you are saying, because I think I really agreed that it's something that's missed in all of the leaders that I've seen. It's that well, not all of them again. A generalization. Um, there's just ah lot of them. They're just like their focus. And it's so funny. I'll say this like our current president, 45 tweeted something about, like TV ratings, and I'm just like in the middle of a global pandemic, Faster chair worried about and again. It's just like this. It's and it's funny because it's like their generation talks about us have, you know, being egotistical and thinking about ourselves. But it's just like lookit, lookit This is, ah, great representation of what your generation looks like, and by great. That's in quoting quotes so It's just it's very frustrating when I think about just listening to people that I'm close to talk about even voting on. And I know we weren't gonna talk about politics, but I just feel like, you know, do you feel like our generation has kind of given up on the system in a lot of ways?
spk_1: 20:12
I think, Yeah, I think they have a little bit, and I agree. I mean, you could get into politics because those are leaders. And again, it's like I think that we've given up on the system because we wanna were 82 million. Yeah, by 2020 50 there will be no baby boomers on this Earth and it sucks because that's my father. That's a lot of people that I know 2030. There will be over half of that baby boomer generation retiring, so we have to look at this saying, Yeah, we've given up because we've been told since we were 22. Do it, we're told the highest are the oldest. Millennials, turning 40 this year already have 40 and he's been working since he was 20 years old. Being told 20 years, you'll get there now he's 40 being told Hey, another 10 20 years you'll get there. Yeah, Millennials have given up on their leadership because we've been doing what we've been told for last 20 years within
spk_0: 21:09
that thing's working
spk_1: 21:10
in exchange. So yeah, I mean, tow us. I think that a lot of us have given up now. There are a lot of great people out there. Heck, yeah, there are. Heck, yes, their eyes. But guess what? Not enough that our mother and our in charge it to make decisions. I believe the generation accent, everybody millennials boomers Xers were just the two largest. That's what we talked about. But I feel we have a better connection with Generation X because they're like our brothers or sisters, you know? And we when I call a Gen Xers they have got this idea. We talked for 45 minutes when I call a baby boomer and this is true. Ah, lot of them are like, Hey, I don't have time to talk and we set up a time next week. It's like every strict of what they're doing, you know, being versatile makers of the Millennials. But we've gotta learn from that, right? I mean, they're still working with us.
spk_0: 21:58
And I want to go back to something that you talked about before. Um, and I'm a husband. I talked about this all the time, like emotional intelligence and just the idea of being conscious of how you are, like coming across. The other people are being aware of what's happening in the situation. Um, even with that, like, do you feel like their level of I guess strictness or that discipline? Word like, you know, I can't break down to have this moment with you. Like, where do you think that comes from?
spk_1: 22:31
It's all about how they were raised. I mean, think about it. There they come from the pre women's civil rights age Younger. Think about a woman stayed home. Men went to work then bam men when men went off the war, remember? I just saw a picture of war World War Two and it was seniors going to world war at 17 right? They were like, Oh, well, uh, Gen Z is complaining today because they can't graduate from high school, you know, Tenley Gen Z back in the day it 17 was going to war at this time So I think it's how they were raised, right? That strict father, right, that loving mother. But there was a lot of alcohol. There's a lot of abuse. Let me think about that. They went through a lot of these different things growing up and then Bam handed over the throne and such a young age. Your emotional intelligence, I believe, is very low because looking at even the old television shows, I mean, even then, look at the Leave it to Beamers. Look at those old television shows.
spk_0: 23:36
Didn't you think
spk_1: 23:37
those families were a little weird when you watched
spk_0: 23:39
the that? Only something little off about it,
spk_1: 23:42
right, like Mom was always. Hello, husband. You're leaving? What this brought on? How many cups of wine has she had? Yeah, walking in with a briefcase in the coat and it's sunny. Did sunny outside and 90 like this is the weirdest family ever. But I think that that was like like we said, that was like that culture, like women couldn't vote. Back then, the men were the males. They brought all the money and women didn't work all these different things, and then also that change happened. They went through all of that change. They went through so fast, right? The industrial revolution. I mean, the Berlin Wall came down in the eighties. I mean, think of all the things that weight they went through is well, and it's shaped them. So I do believe their emotional intelligence is very low. And Hans talks about that a lot, too. He's got great relationships with his kids. But he says, but he's more of a millennial. He talks like a millennial. He grew up with his kids. His daughter got her first tattoo. He embraced it when I got my first ad to Oh my gosh. You should have heard the things my dad said Come out of my mouth now. Oh, you know what I mean is yet another here. Some of them again went through and how they grew up in Hans will tell you and how a lot of them grew up in the households. They were in a swell.
spk_0: 24:55
Yeah, I mean, it makes it makes total sense. I feel like I'm I'm listening to myself talk because again, I have these kind of conversations. My parents all the time. I grew up very strict Christian. Like, you know, these are the rules, and this is how it goes. And there was no room for, like, there's just no room for anything outside of what was expected. So I think it's interesting how, you know, like, we always say this like, Oh, I'm gonna make sure I don't do what my parents did. Like. Do you feel like you have that mentality now? Because your dad you have two kids. Like like, how do you plan to raise your kids with those experiences in mind?
spk_1: 25:33
You know, every day, Um, I tell my wife I can't think about how my parents raised me because I was raised very bad. And my mom and dad still tastes say to this. Oh, I was a good parent. We did the best we could. Okay, you can keep thinking that. And I thought of you for thinking that, and I'm not gonna judge you anyway any form. But you're wrong. You know what I mean? Um, so we're gonna admirable through, and it's crazy because I am. I talk about in the book. If you if you read my book or listen to my podcast, anyone or everyone I talk about that in the book? I mean, um, I have my parents. We grew up in domestic violence. Cops were called I mean, my dad or you are running a got a D y with the sheriff of one of the timing here. Cop car. That's how I got it. I mean, it was just a very bad, very bad environment. So it was like 123 strikes. You're out for me. It's like I don't want to go through spouse to spouse, like as my parents did. My dad's on this or my mom's on her second marriage. It's like Mom and Dad had no work like balance at all. I mean, it was crazy because my parents were They were not around helping with my homework. When I asked Mom and Dad for Homer, guess what they would say. Read the chapter again. You're not doing it right. You must end it. And I got bad grades all the way until I met my wife, my junior of high school, and then she like, she help me, help me get through everything right? How about college? Really? But it was like everyone's fighting. They were arguing, yelling, They got a divorce. It was like, Dude, Mom, Dad, grow up. So for me, it was like there was no communication or home Mom and Dad, like they were calling us kids. But realistically, they were just drunk kids themselves. I'm sorry. A lot of my friend's parents, like I'd go to my friend's houses and their parents would be drinking on the weekends, my body, But all you you know how it is about Yeah, I do. I know. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, I know. And so for me, right? So let's go. I want to tell that story because you got to know where someone came from before the
spk_0: 27:42
had. Definitely important.
spk_1: 27:44
So to me, being a good parent has a lot to do with one how we were raised. And the way I was raised was obviously that way, right? Very bad environment. So if I'm a mole, if you're a millennial, and to me it's being able to do birthday parties with their kids selfies all day doing everyday activities, I'm talking about playdates. Um, anything you can think of and more I do
spk_0: 28:09
imagines to be present.
spk_1: 28:11
Anything. Anything my kid wants to do a tic tac ever. Listen, if you're listening, I'm on tic tac. The trick. I have all kinds of stuff that my kids tell me to come up with, right? And unlike my boomer parents, it was never about what was best for for us. I'm not gonna lie. It was what was best for them at the pool at that
spk_0: 28:30
point. And so you feel like that's overall, like a reflection of how that generation waas.
spk_1: 28:38
Yeah. And what about that? I mean, there were a lot of good parents out there. Trust me, Hans was a good parent. I've seen him invisible, but even Hans will talk about and he talks about in the book. But even him growing up with his kids, he saw a lot of those parents divorced when they would go on there, you know? Oh, come on over. Meet the kids. It was like, Oh, uh, Hans and Donna were the only ones that were, like, married. You don't mean and never, you know, never mind. So they saw it too. Um, I also think that too millennials have a sense of helping others.
spk_0: 29:10
Yeah, I think we're very much a a car's driven generation, and that goes without question. And I think we talked about this a little bit before that. They're just very boomers, but they are focused really on. It's just very like, What's the formulaic like Step one, Step two, Step three, never really about the experience or the journey, but really just like just getting man. If that makes sense,
spk_1: 29:41
no shit just makes a lot of sense. And and I think that, too. That's again, why we are the way we are, too. I mean, we want to help others because we didn't get help. We were told, Do what you're told. That's not helping anybody. And now with this ageless are endless, endless age of information, right? We're able to do so much more. So we're beyond nose and vice presidents already. They just don't think we are. And I said helping millennials mean growing up as a millennial, we were used to that. I was used to hand me downs from my brothers. I was used to the hand me down some of the other generations. My buddy would be like, Hey, bro, you wanna wanna wear this shirt? I would let me see it? Yeah, we're that polo shirt. Those like that. You know what I mean? Like we were. Yeah. All right. And and I think that that still stands with us, even to this day. My brother would like a check. The short. I'll throw me a shirt and I'll throw it on. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, like like that, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think that grew, grew with us. And then think about I talked to a lot of retail buddy retail buddies. Yes, I do. But real estate. But he's ah, lot of elections are not buying houses either. And so that
spk_0: 30:52
one I mean, because we can't afford it.
spk_1: 30:55
Well, listen, it wasn't a big, you know, It's funny. I found a letter from my dad when I was in 2008 and he wrote this crazy letter and I was buying a house about my first house in 2008 and I'm actually gonna post the I might even post the letter on Facebook, and my dad and I have had a very rocky relationship, and he did not want me to buy a house. And I bought a house during the recession. Okay, Like 20 out, like 2122 22 years old about my first house. And he told me I was making every bad decision possible. Every bad decision. And I bought this house and I put I put $13,000 down. I had $25,000 in my bank account, was making $100,000 a year. All kinds of good stuff in a jar like 21 0 yeah. I told you I was an entrepreneur of their young A lot of
spk_0: 31:42
people back from that going
spk_1: 31:43
and what did along the cool things. But it was crazy, cause, but it wasn't on my priority list. What I thought about was like, I have the money. Yeah, I just let the money sit. My my account and I don't know how to do stock. So the best thing I could do was let me buy some land and property and I'll figure it out. I sold the house 11 years later. Big bomb bank on it. And I'm living in Florida by the beach like you don't mean like that that screaming for him then turned into something else. But what I'm saying is is, Even then, our parents don't want us to buy houses because they don't want us to get in that financial debt without having our student loans paid off. Credit card, several things. So now we're 34 34 to 40 years old, the older millennials, and we're just buying our first houses. I was a little different. Buying a house in 22 years old.
spk_0: 32:31
Yeah, I mean, you definitely an out liar. But I think it's a good example, though, that it's possible. It's just as a generation. We still need a lot of educating in that area. Were
spk_1: 32:44
not exactly that, is that we're not? Yeah, we're not running to the owning a house I and we don't want to. I'd rather I'd rather be downtown at 20th story overlooking the water than owning a house that looks at someone else's cars all day.
spk_0: 32:57
Yeah, and I think I mean, and it's interesting because it's like and on one hand it's like you do wanna have that value where you own something in its yours versus like paying rent to somebody month a month. But I also like we're okay. with the experience that we choose. So I feel like somebody who's got, like, you know, of a strong financial background and that kind of understanding. What what's what are your thoughts on? You know, millennials Making that decision to just continue to read versus tryingto, you know, figure out how to buy.
spk_1: 33:30
Listen, I'll tell you this right now. Maur of the millennial generation by generation are buying smaller properties and smaller homes. Right? Take the minimalist route. Don't start with something big 12,000 square foot lot, 4000 square foot house. Because guess what? Some of those houses are very hard to rent. And not only that is, is just because you taste and you like. It doesn't mean someone else is going to. So remember. Sometimes the less is more goes a long way. Different lifestyles. Wright and a lot of millennials don't want to be held down to being comfortable or complacent. Right? Being secure, they want to travel, see their kids, grow up, have fun in their career. So I would say if you're fine when you're financially ready, you'll know you want to know why. Because when they say, Hey, you need 8% down, and that's 12,000 or $15,000. You'll know if you're ready or not. Yeah, a lot of times you're already paying the rent. Like I can tell you. When I moved from California, Florida, my rent was $800 cheaper in California. That is in Florida, but just interesting notes. But where it's where I lived and I bought a house in the recession. So think about the factor. Why? I didn't You know what I mean? Look at those factors. Now I live by the beach. All my windows face the water versus where I was working All my windows face other girls houses, air card, huge difference. He was overly broad, even leads. Right now, let me ask you a question. Let's flip this switch around, right. Okay. This is Think about it. I want it. I want to get into this if you think high paying careers because I don't believe myself. I've had a lot of high being careers, and I off the mike. It's like I could tell you a lot of fun stories, and I made good money and mike my life. And I'm very fortunate that I do not care to have a job making $250,000 a year and I'll say any more or any less for the one for the comment. No, I won't because of what it takes out of it. And I just don't believe that's leaving life making that much and having to deal with working for the, uh
spk_0: 35:42
I think I have 100,000. 50,000% agreed. Not
spk_1: 35:46
so this or what Russian it is you is How do you feel about high paying careers?
spk_0: 35:52
I think they have their place. Uhm, I'm fortunate the job that I have right now does pay me very well, but I'm using it to fund my passions. Until that my passions can pay me full time. You know what I mean? Like, I think you just have to use it in the time in the season that you're there. Um, again, it's all about experience, perspective and opportunity. Um, you and I sit from a very privileged standpoint. A lot of millennials, depending on the demographic and who you're talking to, you know, they won't have the perspective of walking away from a $250,000 job because in their mind. It's just like depending on where you grow up. That's that's that's That's the pinnacle of success, right? But for me, I think I'm kind. We've kind of just talked about this like it's all about the life that you're living, the causes that you're attached to, the purpose behind the things that you're doing and those kind of jobs. They take way too much mental space for me to be able to enjoy life outside of it. The work life balance does not exist. The expectations in an outside of the workplace. No, there's no way. And so for me, I found value and entrepreneurship because it allows me to have control of my time. It allows me to have control of the experience that I'm having. It's not any less work. It's double the work, but it's worth it because it's mine, You know what I mean? Like you spend 40 hours a week sometimes depending on, you know, in those positions 50 or 60 hours a week, building somebody else's vision, and for what? So you can retire with barely enough money to do what you need to do in life? No, I'm good
spk_1: 37:44
I feel him listening. Thio a woman version of myself. I talk about the city. This is awesome. It's so true, though. I mean, e everything you said is exactly I would probably answer the same. And then that leads into free time, right? And we'll think about it. We're still talking about being what it is about being a parent, right? And that was being a good parent, right? Being there for your kids. And then everything needed was the 2nd 1 right? That leads into, you know, your family time, and then we don't need to own a house, because we're why we're still focused on traveling, focusing on our family high paying career, like you just explain it to the T and then free time. All of these coincide with kind of how we're raising our Children because you want them hunker down. So as long as ready for this, as long as we're present in their lifes, know that we're helping others. Our kids aren't gonna care if we own a house. Yeah, it's here. High paying career. I felt like us when we grew up. Our parents were focused on where we lived. How much money they made. And my keeping up with the Robinson of the Jones is like, you know what I mean? Like, that's like everybody was trying to like. It wasn't even if you are, I'm not talking about Trust me. I live in my car a few times. So if you guys at anybody on this podcast things that I was like some privileged silver spoon person, I'm a hustler and I got to where I am because I could constantly work. You know what I mean? But yeah, I stayed keeping up with the Joneses. It doesn't mean that the race, but you're always comparing yourself to your neighbor.
spk_0: 39:19
Yes, you're always looking onto them in the house.
spk_1: 39:23
That's what I'm saying and I don't. And I think now that our generation is not doing that, and that's and that's a big part of it. Now that free time comes into play. People too many people want to say, Oh, you want free time find take off work. We don't mean free time. What we mean is we could show you accountability through a lot of different ways. We don't need to be stuck in an office and like I said, if you want, if you can have me work for you or do things with you, I can show you I can work remotely and make you money and do things. The opportunity is just completely being lost in that nature.
spk_0: 39:55
Yeah, I definitely agree. I think I think we have a lot of work to do, and I guess you know my podcast. They always get the first groups. I am working on a book right now, and it's called The Miseducation of Generation. And that is the That is literally. The theme statement of the book is that as a generation, we've just been so mis educated, too, in the way that we think about what successful success looks like and just how we're supposed to live our life. Our values are so misplaced. Well, the values that we were we were given, and so now we're doing a lot of unlearning, and so it almost feels uncomfortable sometimes when you say, Well, honestly, I'm not focused on buying a house or I don't want a full time job. I want to be an entrepreneur like those things sometimes feel uncomfortable for people because it's like Well, that's not what you're taught. That's not what you were told. And so it's like trying to find the balance with that. And again, don't get me wrong there. People who are going to be happy working there. 9 to 5. We're gonna be happy purchasing their home like there's always those people. Good, great. But on a grand sense, it's just like those things take away so much value from the things that really matter. In my opinion,
spk_1: 41:15
I agree with you. I have something for you.
spk_0: 41:20
Yeah, it's we live in interesting times.
spk_1: 41:24
I think that your book is gonna be very relevant as well. And I thought about talking about a new book subject of, well, talking, discussing more about generations. And now talking about is coming on that eye injury. Because if we don't, if we don't work together, we're gonna make this next generation just like the baby boomers like the builders. Yes, cycle will end up repeating, so we don't constantly try to work together. It's again. We're just gonna repeat history, and that's what they say, right? You repeat, history comes around, you skips a couple generations just like repeating the endless circle of family life, right? They always say, Get out of that circle. You gotta break that. You gotta break the circle. You got a break. The habit we gotta break through. You
spk_0: 42:12
know what I'm thinking about, though, And this is gonna sound really morbid, but it's it's scary to think that this next generation what are they? Why are the Z? They might not even be around to do that because their generation is just filled with so much anxiety there, so depressed they're so overwhelmed, like the suicide rate globally is highest in that generation. And it's because they're just being thrown like so much is being thrown at them constantly. And it's just laid their minds on overdrive. And I think it's because we I don't know. It's a lot of things. What unique on that?
spk_1: 42:56
Well, I mean, listen, we gotta help them. No one's helping them. It's like no one helped Helped us, as you said is, there's a lot of lot of people that are out there that need a little bit more guidance. So the Generation Z that Gen Z or zoo Mirza someone calling to say they're called him Zoomer because they have a tendency and the boomer tendencies. So he jumps and Akona somewhere called Sumers. So our thought processes on this is that the grand parents to the gens ease they love them because how that was that's our grandbabies. Right? So there's form under grandbabies, right? And the parents are the Gen Xers and or the Millennials. And look, what's happening we're treating them were yelling at that were challenge, You know what I mean? You're 20 years old. No. And we're the jobs that now we're going for They're going to start competing with the next five years, so I think they're gonna They don't not educated. We just are educating them when you start talking to them about how they're gonna be doing great, how we need them to succeed in all these jobs, right? I mean, the trade industry is going down, right? Plumbers, engineer, All these different industries are welders are going down because we don't have enough people stepping up. But again, for how long? How long the generation action millennials step out of that trade industry and go for the business, corporate jobs and things like that. So there's a lot missing so we need to educate them on everything right? They missed outdoors. A lot of Jonesy's. We're now door, their entire life's. And now they're gonna get out of the house, Go fly, be free. And they're like, What? Know that?
spk_0: 44:24
How do you do that?
spk_1: 44:26
That's what I'm saying. So we need to educate them with Millennials. They're their mentors to say, Listen, I get it. But what do you know? Get to know that murder and understand start taking them. I hate to say it taken by the hand and let's start teaching them.
spk_0: 44:40
Yeah, that's a good That's a good That's a good way to look at it. Um, okay, we're going to wrap up, but I have to ask one question before you go, Actually, it's gonna be a few questions, but they're gonna be short. Uh, you you kind of talked a little bit about your own personal journey, and we didn't get into it much, but just kind of walk us do like the beginning stages of entrepreneurship for you. Like you talked about working in a grocery store and you had a manager like, what was that like when you decided? You know what? I'm gonna do my own thing.
spk_1: 45:15
You know, I did my own thing way before the grocery store, so I talked about this a little bit in a different podcast. Um, but I started. I actually used my brother so security number to get my first job when I was 14. So and I sold my older brother older. You have my older brother? He was 17. He was older than me. He got the work at grocery stores and all kinds of fun stuff. And I was neighbor. Never able to be used to go to work with my dad all the time fast for, but it's like, um, opportunities all the time. I would walk down the street. I saw a guy mowing the lawns. I saw my brother, you know, he had me 15 to, ah, to get a job. So I used this whole security. Never pretended to be him to get to get money again. All this Well, you know, they found out I had to end up getting a letter from my mom. Make sure wasn't child labor things like that that they allowed me to work there, But then I was walking down the street one day and I was on my way to work. So I walked to work and there was a real estate agent. Mow the lawn and I just walked by. I was like, Yeah, I was going and the guy was, like, Good. And I said it was your line because I don't live here. And I said, What are you doing? You goes, I'm the real estate agent. I said almost along for five bucks right now. Well, I'm going to work, but I'll do it tomorrow and he goes, Okay, given the five bucks, I found out all the houses he had. My model of this house is the real estate agent at the age of life in that thing. Yeah. So I was like, my first journey and entrepreneurship, and then my dad, I was always constantly looking for stuff to do. My dad let me sell our CDO, so I put it, pull it out of the paper, sold to CTU for my dad. Just different things like that. I was just so eager. Worked at the grocery store at 16. I used to pick oranges in the field for my dad's company as a kid used to help him with logistics. So at a very young age, I was very I was thrown into it and then my dad let me do a long It's like my parents and yelling in a job. Um, they were kind of like, OK, you let him let him do this. And to me, it was an out I didn't want to see the The bad parenting is I'm just gonna call it right. I didn't want to be home anyways, so work was like an outlet for me as well. So I just started developing all it was always like, What can I do? What can I talk about? What could I always go after? And then I worked for my family business for a while. When I say a while, it was like a few years like my from 18. Just so, uh, 21 or 22. Um and then my dad might have started part part ways. And then I started a company in 2008. Soul, you know, sold it in nine months, started another company in 2009 left that partner started another company in 2010 had that company for five years. I sold the assets on that company, went to work for a Fortune 200 company, worked for them for three years left there, restarted a brand new organization. And within that time period, I've started everything from logistics operations companies to export companies in Costa Rica from consulting companies for leadership and, uh, writing the book. Millennial boom. So I am 14 years old.
spk_0: 48:16
That's crazy. Talk about our journey. Um, wow, I'm really impressed. I think that that kind of hustle, that kind of drive it doesn't just come from anywhere. You're kind of born with it, You know what I mean? Um, so just to see that trajectory and how it's like panned out for you is very impressive. So congrats to you for making it.
spk_1: 48:37
But I will tell you, this is something I tell you what. You're right. It is about me, This soldier, right? I'm sorry to say you want about me. Need me? You know that we get the rag on it, but I've been working my butt off for for 20 years, you know, 14 years old and I've got kids now, and you're right before it was about just doing what's best and going out. Now. I'm sitting there at 34th and they're saying, You know, the leaders, the boomers, the builders They're saying you'll get there still at the age of 34. And to me, it's like, You know what? I'm here on my own, you know what I mean? I'm ready, right? I am your next big thing. If you don't want to give the opportunity for me to show you that I'm gonna keep doing my own thing and supporting my family in the way I've been able to, which is being creative and working my butt off.
spk_0: 49:28
Ah, well, if that's a word that you, you, you got, that's it. You all take it right there, work your butt off and be creative. Do your own thing And I think that's that's essential to blooming is just coming into yourself and being so confident that what you're doing, no matter what anybody else, tells you that you're on the right path. So I'm excited for you, and I will definitely be looking out to see what's next.
spk_1: 49:53
No, I appreciate it. Yeah, it's ah, it's been a fun, interesting but not easy journey, right?
spk_0: 49:59
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So where can the people find you?
spk_1: 50:04
Yeah, So if you want to get a hold of me, you can visit my website at the patrick kelly dot com. If you wanna check out the millennial boom websites millennial boom now dot com you check out some fund resource is some videos. You can even check out the order. Now. Paige, we are having a special promotion. I'm not sure, like we said when the actual, uh, podcast will be released. But April 1st, 2022 April 15 2020. We will be given away millennial boom for free on kindle, So there'll be a free download code. You just have to go to millennial boom on YouTube and check out the videos and there will be a free code listed in the video as well. So millennial boom on YouTube. And then I'm on all social media platforms from instagram to tick talk to Snapchat. Uh, so if you just go into Google enticed hashtag millennial boom, I guarantee you I will be the 1st 1 to show up in your in your Google feed.
spk_0: 51:08
And I've definitely link that to this episode so you guys could get your free copy of the book on Kindle. Um, and I'm excited to see where millennial boom goes. I think it's a It's an important conversation, and I'm glad that we have somebody in our journey generation trying to bridge that
spk_1: 51:24
gap. Yeah, I appreciate everyone that is helping change the workforce. And, as I always say, no changes.
spk_0: 51:44
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