Ep. 10-Jason Wasser, LMFT: Identify Your Core Values and Take Charge Of Your Life and Career

Jason Wasser is  the host of the You Winning Life Podcast, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified Entrepreneur Coach who helps people with their personal and career goals. He is the owner of The Family Room Wellness Associates and works with client both in his office and online. He believes that everyone is capable of minimizing their stressors and maximizing their potential. 

 In this episode, Jason talks about the fear of more responsibility for a bigger pay check can cause people to not move forward in their career. Also the pyramid of work with the owner, manager and technician in an organization can be difficult for people to understand and navigate through.

 He helps people who are intrapreneurs, and entrepreneurs. If you are looking for self-employment, you should make sure your business is yielding at least $150,000 within the first 2 years in order for it to be profitable for the business owner.

 If you are wanting to start a business, ask questions about what do you struggle with and reverse engineer the problem to reach the crumbs for the market you seek to serve.

 If you are seeking intrapreneurship, take advantage of the technology available to learn new skills to stay up on your game for your career so you will always be valuable to your industry and improve your skill set.

Jason can be reached for therapy, coaching, alternative medicine and speaking engagements at www.thefamilyroomsfl.com.
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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

This is the you winning life podcast, your number one source for mastering a positive existence. Each episode we'll be interviewing exceptional people, giving you empowering insights and guiding you to extraordinary outcomes. Learn from specialists in the worlds of integrative and natural wellness, spirituality, psychology and entrepreneurship. So you too can be winning light. Now here's your host, licensed marriage and family therapist, certified neuro emotional technique practitioner and certified entrepreneur coach Jason Watser.

Host: 0:37

So Jason, we talked yesterday. Yeah, you're in Florida near in the house where I got my doctorate and a Nova. Yup. Great. Yeah, after this round where we're, we're degree siblings. That's true. We are. We are then and surprisingly we did not connect on LinkedIn. Go figure. Well thank God for that podcast email list.

: 1:06

Exactly, exactly. So Jason, I know who you are c ause we talked extensively, but to my listeners they do not know who you are. So can you introduce yourself and tell us a little about you?

Host: 1:19

Absolutely. My name is Jason Wasser. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, a certified neuro emotional technique practitioner as well as I'm a certified coach. I own the family room wellness associates here in South Florida and we practice mind, body integrative wellness. We have a therapy, we have coaching, we have chiropractic, we have nutrition. Um, and I also offer, uh, a lot of coaching online for both personal coaching as well as business in entrepreneur professionals. Oh huh. All right. So how can you help us with our careers? So it's really an interesting question where people come in with that. Just a specific question where it's so generic and it's not niched down to, I've been thinking either, right? It goes from the idea of I don't know what to do next or I don't know what I'm doing in my specific career versus the idea of 15 different options, but I'm not sure which one is the right decision for me. So when I'm working with any new client, whether it's a therapy client, whether it's a coaching client, the first thing that I want to know is what's their core values. So when I'm talking about core values, I'm talking about picking five, six, seven words that they're going to define for themselves. And I walked them through this with a worksheet and an exercise. And I say, if you were to be living completely in your values, if you were going to be living a life of purpose and meaning, and you knew that every decision that you wouldn't make goes back to a specific set of values, what would those values be that would allow you to have that life that you did, that you dream of? And what I find is that when people do that, the decision making about what I should do next becomes a lot easier. Because the next question is, is does that idea that you have align with your core values and it will either be a yes or no. We already took out a big chunk of the maybes or the possibly because that's not a yes and then the nos are definitely a no. So now we can chunk it down and chunk it down. So whether it's something for someone that wants to stay specifically in their field and they're ready to take the next step or they want to try something different or they're not sure if they're in the right field. Well let's go back to your core values and let's make a decision from there. Okay. That sounds awesome. I mean, um, I know yesterday when we talked, you were talking and we, we thought talked about the core values and there are certain things that you say you want to make money, but there are certain ways that you are, your core values will allow you to be comfortable in making money. Absolutely. Right. And it's always goes back to you, not just your core values, but like it's your integrity and two things go hand in hand, right? Yeah, exactly. Podcast is clean and not explicit. That is truly a cool value that I have. I'm not going to say that my mouth is clean, but I'm going to not say those things on air the best that we can. Sometimes things slip out. But I'd say that's also very much part of the same conversation, which is how much do we dog ourself, right? How much pressure do we put on ourself that we're going to make the right decision or do the right thing every single time? And who has ever done that, who hasn't messed up at least once in their life in a major significant way. So, and if you think you haven't done it in a major significant way, do it so you can get it out of the way already or keep living. That's, that's what like my mother always say Cuba living. Exactly. Most definitely. Okay. Okay. So how can this help someone after they figured out what their core values are, um, can niche it even more to, you know, go toward a specific area in their career if they want to change or stay in the same industry or you know, whatever. Right? So if someone already in an industry that they're passionate about, they feel that, again, it aligns with their core values, then the next step is what are the things that they would need to scale up to a maybe a bigger position? Right? A lot of people say, well, my fear is that I love what I do, but I don't want to take on more responsibilities and a lot of times response, more responsibilities comes with a bigger paycheck, but my assumption or my wondering is that they're not familiar with those responsibilities because they've never stepped up that place. And I think a lot of the limitations from that is that they think that they have to be either Superman or superwoman and do it all themselves. And the the, you know, the, the pyramid of, of work, of employment when you're working for someone else really is a pyramid. You have the person who is the, usually the owner of the company or the business, right? That's the entrepreneur. Then you have the management and that can run all the way from the executive team all the way down to supervision or the supervisors. And then you have the people who are the technicians who are actually doing the delivery of goods, delivery of service. So the trick is to realize that as you work up the food chain for no pun intended, learn how to create a team or work with a team around you where you can delegate to the people that are the most specific and best at that task. And instead of trying to be Superman or superwoman in trying to do it all in exchange for that additional five thousand ten thousand fifteen thousand dollar increase, right? And I find that that's the biggest thing. I'll have to take on more responsibility. I'll have to spend more time at the office, I have to go on more trips. Okay, that might be part of it. But are you bringing in a team around you? If you now start having decision making to bring in a dream team around you to help delegate, to make everybody else do better as well? Right? So what's that phrase? Arising? Tide raises all ships. So that's on the inside, right? So if you're working from the inside, if you're a person who's thinking about going from the outside or doing something new on yourself instead of trying to figure out, and this is something that I deal with on a daily basis with my coaching clients, instead of saying, what's the industry I want to be in, the biggest thing I can challenge you to and challenge your listeners too is what's the problem that you're really passionate about solving? So one of my coaching clients where you, uh, this past week was, is already in practice. And they're like, well, I want to work with this specific population. Um, and they have to be either married or single, but within this age bracket and this financial population, I'm like, that's great, but what are the actual problems that they run into on a daily basis that are part of that population that you really love working with the most? And we niched it down and niched it down until we realized there was two components that those people in that little niche suffer from or struggle with. So instead of saying, I am a therapist who focuses on young couples and Oh, it's, do you struggle with blank and blank? These two areas, right? I can help you. I'm an expert in solving those two problems and that reverse engineers the whole thing. So instead of saying like, I want to work with 40 to 50 year olds who are only right, what's the problem you want to solve? Right? What's the, what's the little hole in the industry that you know, that there's crumbs on the table, not for you to make$50,000 or$100,000 but a business has to start at$150,000 a minimum in order for it to be even worthwhile because taxes and overhead eggs, Attica, having a job at Starbucks or whatever it is. But unless a person knows that they're going to build something that for a minimum, after everything is paid off, that they're going to take home$150,000 as a goal within the first two years. Keep working for somebody else. Otherwise you're just driving yourself nuts. Yeah, that's true. But what if you have a passion and your passion is where you are, but it's just not the right office. So I think the first step with that is always looking in the mirror. Wow, are you not showing up? How are you not showing up to yourself? But how are you showing up to other people? What are you starting to see them through? What ones have you put on that you're now seeing your environment through? What judgments, sweat biases, what negative things are you filtering that through? And the second thing to look out would be when is the last time that you skilled and scaled up on your proficiency on new cutting edge? Whatever it is that's connected to your industry, right? As we were talking, it's the summer of 2019 and if you're not taking advantage of the technological advances that are available to you, no matter what field you're in, whether you're a teacher, whether you're in a small business, whether you're in a healing arts, there's always something new. And now it doesn't mean you have to jump on the boat and be an expert on that. That's true. But that one little nugget that you can take away can reinvigorate you

Speaker 4: 10:51

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Host: 10:52

and bring it back to like, Oh wow, now I know this. I can apply it. I can have fun with it again. But if you're basing everything you've done on something that you learned 1520 years ago, it's still, well, I mean I was looking at a study not too long ago where there was saying, um, as soon as a student graduate from college, they're knowledge is already a obsolete. So funny that you're saying that because I've been sharing that left and right recently and I would love to see that study and people who didn't. Please post that if you can for your listeners that people ask me all the time, why did you decide not to go on with your doctorate? And I said I was accepted. I had a life experience that unfortunately threw me off that possibility at that time. And now looking back eight years later, it was the biggest blessing in the world to not have another 60 to$80,000 a minimum of debts for the title doctorate versus right. And everything that they're teaching in the program is the same stuff that they're teaching now is what they're teaching. When I graduated in 2005 for my master's degree, right? So we're talking 13 years later now there's some updates and some nuances and maybe new research papers on those modalities. But there's all these other things that are going on in the world that are outside of that box that you will not get in a lock step program that we're, I travel around the country, literally spending multiple thousands of dollars a year to get cutting edge training by the top people in the field who are doing that. I don't have to get someone, I remember a buddy of mine, his name is Martin Matthews, who, um, is a financial planner. And I remember he was, he went to college and he loved, um, this entrepreneurship business class that he was in. And they had a project that they had to do and it was about creating a business plan. So at the end of the assignment he went over to the professor and asked them, you know, when you made your first business plan for the businesses that you were in before you reteaching, was it as difficult as this? And the professor looked at him and said, I've never owned a business. Wow. To him. He dropped out of school the next day and now he's doing radically well as a financial planner because the tools he needed was never going to be in that classroom. Now for people who need a licensure, eligible field, medical professions, a right CPA, whatever it might be, you need that license. You need those, those academic to get you there. But at the end of the day, know that there is always going to be, going back to what I said before, which is what is the niche that you want to fulfill? What's the problem you want to solve and then become an expert at. Exactly. Exactly. I have a friend that I grew up with, she is a, um, in dentistry, so obviously she has a medical degree and I was talking to her recently and she said, yeah, I'm thinking of going back to get my MBA. I said, are you crazy? Are you crazy? She said, well, I want to run a business. I said, well, I mean, I know that you have your dentist practice, but there are still some core things that all businesses do. I say, you have a doctorate degree, why are you going to put your[inaudible] MBA program? And you're hitting back exactly what I mentioned a few a few minutes ago, which was you have the entrepreneur, the manager, and you have the technician. So here you have a friend who's a dentist who is the owner of a business but is operating on the level of a technician. And what we've been tricked in our society, and I was one of those people until I'm like literally have this a weakening a few years ago from my business coach, which I'll tell you about in a moment, was that we are trained to be technicians. We, we own a business that we are the slave and the technician. And really the only difference between people who are working at Starbucks and being a barista as a technician, direct service and a person like a dentist or a lawyer is they're still doing the same thing. It's just the dollar amount goes up a little bit. Exactly right. But meanwhile, while you and I are serving somebody in a direct experience, right, where we're being a technician, I'm seeing a coaching client, I'm seeing a therapy client, we're having this conversation. We can't go out and be the entrepreneur and bring in new clients. We can't work on our marketing. So that's why I'm saying like, know what you learn what you want to be most passionate about because some people who are technicians are really better. Often managers, people who think that they're entrepreneurs. If you are really better being a manager or they're really better being a direct service technician and to know that role is a game changer and then what it is, you have to either partner up with someone else who is really great at that or hire that person. Exactly the dentist or anybody else who's listening to that to go back and do an MBA. An MBA is geared to teach you how to be middle management at a corporation or a company. It's not to teach you how to run and grow a sustainable and scalable on shoe preneurial adventure. And as I mentioned that to her and I said, you have the tools that you need, I wouldn't do that. Right. And they're better off hiring a coach who is an expert in that, in the structure, the business development in the right, the levels of development that is needed in all the verticals to get those things done. And me, we'll have those increases. One of my, one of my coaching clients that I work with as a multimillion dollar family business, and they were doing 3% annual, we didn't maybe six to 10 sessions over the course of the year, and the next year I got them to, I think it was 14% increase. Year two, I got them to 33% increase off that 3% annual, 3% annual increase is literally what's the, what do they say? It's the, I'm right. Every year there's a 3% increase in um, uh, the Ingo not your income, but right. If you keep your money in your bank and you've got a 3% on it, they interest rate. They will not the interest rate, but whatever that, that level is of like, you're really only make, you're not really making anything because lesion is really going up place. Yeah. So if you're only making three, 4% right, teachers get an extra 3%. There's a big, the annual raises a 3% raise. That's just inflation meeting inflation. You're still building the same thing. You are. Gas is going up. That's where your 3% went. Right. Making the exact same thing. At the end of the day, it's just covering their beer. The reason you're not, you're not thriving, you're staying at your, you're keeping your head above water. And my job as a coach is to help people go from that bobbing up and down to being able to fly above the water. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. So if were to hire you, what would be the first thing that you would do with them? Hmm. Well, we already started off with, um, the idea of knowing core values. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But a lot of the things that I really want to know is why is it important to do that, which you say you want to do. And I think that's a really powerful thing because there's a lot of societal pressure. There might be family pressure, there might be financial pressure, there might be cultural pressure. But I want to figure out the value and significance to that particular person for why they're going to invest both money in me, money in their development, money in a business and the time and effort that it's going to take them away from maybe other things that might also be a higher priority. So again, I think that it's the, what's your why write the Simon Sineck what's your why? Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, what will you achieve? Like what will it allow you to do in every other aspect of your life? If you were to accomplish that, which I'm here to help you with, how will it help you be a better human? How would, how help you, if you're in a relationship to be better in that relationship, to be better parents, to be better spiritually, to be better physically with your health and wellness? How will, if you, we work on this and we target this, will that get you to where you want to be in these other domains? Because if we don't ask that question, you're out of whack. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Hot, serving them on a powerful and deep level. That's true. That's true. Cause some people, um, they have decided they need to, to improve their health and their job is preventing them from doing that. They work long hours with a long commute. And so yeah, that could be a very good reason to decide I'm changing careers. Absolutely. And I want to know, and I want to, I don't want to playfully challenge the word that you said. It's their job that's keeping them from that. It's not their job that's keeping it from them, from that it's not the commute that's keeping them from that. It's the choices that they made that allowed them to take a job that doesn't allow them to prioritize themselves. It's the choices that they made to take a job that has a 45 and hour commute each way and the person has to take ownership and accountability in their life for those things. So they say if it's truly a priority for them to be healthy, for them to have better relationships, then how are they taking the action steps? What evidence are they showing in effort towards that? So a lot of the things that I will challenge my clients to, and I only take clients that are gonna show up and be willing to be challenged, is how did you decide if you're saying you want these three or four things as a priority in your life, but evidence is showing that you're over here. Our job is to go from this space to that space. How is it that you allowed that to become the priority when you're talking about these three other things that become a priority and let's rectify that. So at that point, then you go back to your core values so that you can decide, okay, this is the end. Let's start new and start moving into the right direction. Exactly, and I work with them on what I call lifestyle by design, and it really does talk about prioritization. What are the, what are the things that are most important to you? Like I said, if I help you achieve this one thing in your personal life, if they're coming to me for personal coaching, then how will that affect you in other, right? Other arenas of your life. If you're coming to me with your business, entrepreneurial coaching, whether you're an intrepreneur, the person that's working in it, whether you're a teacher or you're working for someone else, you're an employee, right? The intrepreneur, how can I help you develop and grow within that business or decide that you want to be an entrepreneur, which is developing and creating your own. But again, what are going to be the trade offs and what is it the end result. But if you do and you create that, what will that allow you to have? And if there's not clarity on that[inaudible] I'm not going to let them move forward until they convinced me with a purpose and a passion that it will help them get all those other aspects. And we will only create a game plan that will allow them to have the full balance of their highest priorities in sync with their core values. Okay. Okay. So about how many sessions will you work with someone or does it just vary according to the person? It's an interesting thing that we have this idea and this is in all fields of the helping professions where there's a service based is like, well, what do I, how, when will I feel better? Right? When will it be done? When will, right, when will I get to where I want to get there? And, and there's this idea of it, this one, this immediate gratification that it requires me just showing up and not doing the work and right. And it really is about the tenacity and the mindset of what a person has that I'm willing, well, I hired you. How much work are you going to do for me? Right? And it's where I, you know, the, the, the, the coach in the, and the client have to meet hand in hand about that. Um, but I really tell my clients that there is no specific set deadline. We will set deadlines, we will set goalposts, we will set quarterly and annual plans because everything I want to do is reverse engineer. Are we doing these little micro action actionable steps that will lead us to this bigger goal? And we do have timelines that are set up. So if it is about creating a company, we're talking about not, you know, any investment in yourself is not like a three months, six month thing, but it is a longterm relationship. You want to know that for this specific thing, you're going to come to Jason, right for this specific thing and this is that person's an expert in that area or you're going to go to that person. So you know, you have to know that you might have more than one person in your life that you have to consult with. That's true over a period of time. But while still having someone who's gonna help you strategize and be the quarterback for you and come up with game plans. And I think, and I think it's very important to say that you do have to show up and do the work. I was listening to another podcast and um, the, they do like three segments in their podcast and at the end they have listened to letters and the person is asking about therapy and she has been going to therapy for a while, but she's still not doing anything, not feeling. She said, I'm not feeling better, but she initially admitted I'm not really doing what my, you know, coach suggested and I was thinking, okay, then obviously you're not going to feel better because you're not doing the homework. You have to do the homework in order to, right. So I want to, I want to just dispel the misnomer between therapy and coaching and that therapist only work on past issues and feelings and coaches work on future oriented stuff. That's actually a complete misnomer. And unfortunately that's what coaches are using to put step above theirs. Their marketing when it comes to promoting themselves over therapists. And my training from, from Nova Southeastern and the family therapy program is about solution oriented. Yeah, yeah. Actionable. Right. And we take it into context. Right. But I will never ask a client, how does that make you feel? So when you're talking about that person in that letter, number one, I would challenge them to be really, really, really clear on their goal. If there's no actionable things that are happening for them, I would go back and say, okay, I'm not sure if you're clear enough on what your goal is or maybe your goal that you've said is way too small. You, you want something really big out there and then you got scared and you step back five steps. So now you're aiming for this versus in for this. And that's why you're not feeling anything different. You're not noticing because you played too safe, too small. And I challenge my clients to, you know, that whole 10 X grant Cardone mindset of what would it look like if money wasn't the issue. If it was paid for, if I guarantee you that you're sick, you're whatever money you need to pay your bills and your insurance and your car payment and Euro was paid for, what the heck would you be doing? And they would still, and I constantly hear them say, well, I would do this, but Oh no, that's just crazy. We'll go crazy. I want you to go crazy. Right? Steve jobs and Wozniak went crazy with Apple in their garage. Anybody, anything great thought, crazy play it. So my guess is that person might have either been playing at too small, they don't have crystal clear clarity on what their goals are. And then because of that they're playing maybe too small. They're not making decisions based on core values. Their therapist is maybe being too soft with them and not poking and prodding and asking the right questions. I would even ask, well, what do you think you need to feel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the presumption is that if I feel something, it's, it's proof of versus what's the tangible, actionable differences that are happening in your life from where you started to where you are now and people are not willing to see little nuggets of change. They expect big changes and big miracles, but what about that little, they'll start in inches. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I've found that journaling has helped me because you don't see day to day changes. And so when you look back three months, six months, a year from where you are now, you go, Oh well that did happen. Or I did get that solved. Or you know, so now I see it differently. So yeah, yeah. Growing up right when, and a lot of, I don't know how many parents are still doing this, but when we were growing up where they would Mark your height up on the wall, right? And you don't, you don't know that you're growing, right? When you look in the mirror, you don't see yourself aging day to day. And it's the exact same thing. But one of my favorite questions is asking, what are you, what are other people noticing differently and have the audacity to ask them. So if you're in a relationship and you're coming in, you're working on yourself, what do they noted? What are you, what are your, what's your family? What are the people that care about you the most noticing about you? Because like you said, it's, it might be so in your head, your, your, your conditioning pattern neurologically to only see what you see and to change those neurological synapses. Right? But, but other people might be noticing it and if you check in with that and you bounce it off that, then you're going to start buying, buying in a little bit more. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And I think a lot of times people are trying to take big steps without doing the things in the middle that they need to do so. Well adding to that, which is such an important thing when anybody ever plan something, I don't think many people ask, what's the sacrifices I have to make? How, again, this is again, how will this affect other aspects of my life? What we'll have to give in other places? Who or what might not be happy about me making these changes and how would affect that dynamic with those people or those experiences? Right? So there's a multi-verse of layers of contextuality of when someone wants to make a dynamic change in themselves, to not, to not have someone ask them those questions from all of these different possibilities. It's not like saying, okay, what's your goal? Great, what will that look like to do that? But what's the risk involved in making these changes, whether it's a personal, internal, or in relationship to a dynamic, whether you're in a relationship or parenting or financial or, right. Changing your entire fridge and no one else wants to do the diet that you want to do. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Everything has a risk. So, yeah. Yeah, that's true. So, um, let's see here. So Jason, if someone wanted to work with you, how would they get in contact with you? So the best way to get me is on Instagram and it's Jason Wasser,L, M, F, T, all one word and LMF T stands for licensed marriage and family therapists. My website, um, I have a few different ways to get to my practice website. The practices, again, it's called the family room wellness associates. But if you go and you type in emotional allergies.com, that'll get you directly to my website and you can contact me through there. Um, but also, like I said, Instagram and Twitter both have the same handle. Jason Wasser, L a nd F. T. Oh, okay. Okay. I will definitely connect with you on Twitter. I will do, I'll Instagram too. But Instagram has been my, I've been having a lot of fun on Instagram. Yeah. I've had a lot of fun on Instagram too, but I just having a hard time getting my people to follow me. But well, it's an interest the right. So that idea of using Instagram that people think it's only for these pictures and whatever it is. But it's, it's, it's another, for anybody who's listening, who's in business, it's just another place that's gonna show up. When people search for you, you will show up. So you're providing more data in a certain region that the more more you put out there, the higher you're gonna rank, the higher your conditioning. So we always have to constantly be using Facebook. And you're right, and Instagram and LinkedIn and belied area, because all of those eventually aggregate. If they do, they do. They're listening and they're not using social media or they're afraid of it or they don't believe in it. You know, I, I'm very much in belief of what Gary Vaynerchuk, Gary V says, and I know you were talking before about gnocchi, right? You're no cursing role. So that is every V drops on the podcast. Listeners have to be aware that there is a lot of F bombs being dropped there. But, and I believe I'm 100% that if you don't have presence on social media, your business doesn't exist. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I, you know, I, I, I love Instagram, but I don't know, I may be doing something crazy. The reason why it's not moving the needle like I wanted to, but I have found phenomenal success with Pinterest and I was running from Pinterest like the plague. But then I was like, okay, I'll just get sick and die trying. And it took off and I thought, wow. So you know, I guess you kind of find where it grows. And so Twitter and Pinterest is pretty much where I am. All of them. Right? Right. But I also want to challenge you and challenge other people out there that God forbid, what happens if one of these sites shut down? Oh yeah. Difficulties. There's some big right, um, confidentiality or they get hacked or whatever. Right? So you know, the idea of us putting our stock in one platform is what I want to challenge everybody out there as I've multiple challenges throughout our conversation into consideration. Yeah. You can have based on your niche, right? For Pinterest might be really the type of people that you're, that you're targeting and getting out there for. Right? But also know that that's him, but you have to mix and match it. Cause what you're putting in is not going to be the exact same stuff you should put on Facebook message. But the way it's going to show up, you have to tailor it specifically for each one of those clouds. And there's free websites out there, right? There's a designer or Canva where it can help you make with the social media based on the sizing and everything. And it's free. Perfect. Yeah. Again, if you're not an expert in this, you, if your higher value is to charge a fee for doing this and it, and you're going to be spending hours doing your social media, but you should get a client to make money or tutor or whatever, send that off to someone on Fiverr. You can definitely, definitely. And or, I mean that's the ideal thing to do is to send it out on file and get a VA. But if you can't, then I have found, um, before I started outsource and my work is batch work, so, you know, you can do it by the day or by the week or whatever. But that worked for me until I was able to ask, you know, get additional help. But exactly. And that goes back to that Superman super woman syndrome that everything has to be done by me. I can't trust anybody. Well, no, it wasn't that I couldn't trust anyone. It was just, I wasn't at the point in my business to where I could because you know, you start off like that and you have to do almost everything until you tell it in any way. That was right. And I would say if you can afford a cup of coffee at Starbucks or Dunkin donuts, then you can afford for someone on it. You can find someone on Fiverr for that. Yeah, it's not going to be top high end, but I'm of the belief that you just put out data, right. If you have to create noise in the space, if you're the type of person that only posts once a week, Oh, you can't do that. You're done. Well now, now, now, now Jay, Jason, I do have help. I use apps. So you know, I will scale. Like I said, when I was back, when I did batching, I batched for 30 days. Right? When I did my blogs, I, I wrote several. So I did not have to do this every week. So yeah, well we have to start there and I still do some of that as well. Right. And as, as, as my, as you and I talked, like I'm also in preproduction of my, a podcast called human life, um, where it's going to be about taking all these amazing life hacks from the areas of entrepreneurship, psychology, spirituality and alternative medicine and working and talking to people who have gone from life's struggles to life, achievement and then giving back and what can they do? What can listeners do to reverse engineered a life hack? Right. And, and, and at the beginning I'm like downloading all these programs and audacity and, and until, until I reached out to a buddy of mine who I know does podcasts for a bunch of my entrepreneurial friends, we're really hanging out in the, in the higher level of those circles. And I'm like, I didn't even think to talk to him and he made me a deal I couldn't refuse. It was like a no brainer and I thought it was going to be radically more expensive and I couldn't afford to not work with him. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I ended up reaching out to a VA to help me with mine. And I know a lot of people who are serious podcast just put a lot of money into, you know, the the a platform I did not. Um, and I don't know if I will, I guess the only thing I probably willing in improve probably wouldn't be the Mike, but um, I think my mic that I'm using right now is pretty good. So I mean you, you have people podcasting in their cars so you know, um, well that's the thing where we overthink it. We overspend whatever rights must provide value. I just put an Instagram post up that's going to be connected to the Instagram TV and it was about the self doubt that we have in providing value. And that was my, my little four minute thing for today about the imposter syndrome and has to be completely perfect. Please be edited. There can't be mistakes. If I say too many times, if I look off the screen to check my note, someone's going to judge theirs. I was like that when I first did the very first episode. I edited out a lot of things. And then the more podcast I listened to one one podcasts or I listen, listen to, she says, Oh, uh, Don is better than perfect. And so I started accepting that. And then other podcasters, you can hear the siren rains, you can hear dogs barking. I was doing, um, it wasn't an interview. I was doing a Bon podcast episode, a solo podcast episode, and I was, you know, doing my thing and my husband was sneezed and I'm in my office, but he, he sneezed so loud. I was like, you know what, I'm just not know. Right? If you are providing value, we create this in our head. And this is, you know, I, I really just wanna provide tremendous value to your listeners today and drop as much truth possible. And you're right, right. Done is better than none. I remember one of my friends, he's a professor at Florida international university down in Miami, and I remember him having this idea that like your dissertation, if those were doing academics, your dissertation is not to be your Magnum Opus Harry Potter seven series. John Grisham writes whatever, Michael Connelly BOSH, right series of books, your job is to get it done to be approved by the dissertation committee. Exactly. As hard as it is. And that's all ego. So, so my favorite psychologist who you might have heard of, dr cube, I don't know if you've heard of dr cube, the worldwide ologist uh, first name ice. Um, one of his like illogical teachings is check yourself before you wreck yourself. Ah, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're doing. Just just provide value. Right. And have fun. That's true. That's true. So whenever I have a hiccup, I mean I do it. It's on my arms. Yeah. And if I get tongue tied, I'll edit those out. But I am not editing a lot, but as long as you're having fun and yeah, that's true. I know one day I was, I did, I was doing another solo podcast and my husband called and my kids call now. I did edit those out. But for those, for our listeners, real life is going to happen no matter what. Yeah, just show up. Just show up and play and play. Or a game and have fun as I'm ready for people who are figuring out what they want to do. If you're not enthusiastic about it, you might not need to do it. That's true. That's true. Yup. All. Yeah. And I, I have gotten to that point to where I am going to do things that I enjoy and I'm going to laugh and have fun doing it. So amen, sister. You got it. Okay. All right. So, um, which I will be editing that out. Jason. I do have three rapid fire questions ready? Okay. All right. So the first question is cat for dogs. Cats. Oh my gosh. I am so glad she said cat. And I'll tell you why. I, it's funny cause I didn't grow up even though we've had various pets over the years, I didn't grow up specifically loving like I'm out. Right? I'm, I love nature. I love wildlife. I am very, I believe in conservation and preservation. But my, my sister, um, had a cat, um, that she had since she was in middle school that passed away a few years ago. So it was old. It's like 14, 15 years old. And I didn't really mind it much until I got sick. Uh, and, and when it got sick, I'm like, Oh, I'm going to go over tonight and spend some time with it. Right. And I formed whatever bond that I thought I might have unfortunately passed. Um, and I know some people are like, Oh, I captured the devil, you know, they're so whatever. Right. I was, I love animals. I'm not a pet person for myself at the moment. Um, I don't have any pets at the moment, but, um, this whole thing about like, well, cats have these personalities and dogs have these personalities. Um, I'm the type of person that when I'm out and I see a dog, I'll be like, what if it was to talk to me in a human voice? What would it sound like? You know, like the droopy dog voice, I'm like, you know, peppy, loopy, like, you know, I just like, like there, I want to like, what's that dog's personality? You know, how would it talk to me? So that's what I think about, you know? Okay. Okay. Because, so this week you a number five, the fifth podcast I've done, I interview, excuse me. And all four of them have said dogs. I'm a cat person too. I don't have a cat at the moment, but I am a cat person. My husband and I are about to be empty nesters and I am not bring in a pet or another responsibility into the house. My youngest daughter, no freedom. Exactly. Exactly. We have, um, I didn't grow up with cats but when I went off to school, I had a cat. They had kids since then. And um, even when we got married, my husband and he was not necessarily a cat person, but he tolerated it cause I love kids. So, um, my youngest daughter fell in love with cats and we bought her one for Christmas. And so he died a few years ago when she may have been in 10th grade. He's hasn't been that long. And um, she told me, um, back in, in February, she's like, you don't thinking about getting a cat. I said you need to make sure that whatever university you go to will accept pets. Cause I'm not keeping, but I'm not ready to do that again. So yeah. Okay. Okay. So the next question is if you could travel anywhere right now, where would you go? Oh, this is rapid fire. So I'm not supposed to think about, I'm I right now, if I can go anywhere in the world and just jump on a plane and go, I will probably end up in Israel. Okay. Okay. Awesome. Awesome, awesome. We talked about that yesterday. So yes, there's most definitely. And the last question is, and I think you touched on this earlier, but the last question is, what is your, why? My why's specifically is to minimize stressors to maximize potential because those that invest in themselves will have a radically more successful, happy, empowered life. Okay. All right. Well thank you. Thank you, Jason. Well, I enjoyed interviewing you and speaking with you today. This has been truly a joy and I know that the listeners will find this information very, very helpful. And I look forward to seeing where this goes with us. I very much appreciate hanging out with you. Sure, no problem.

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