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It’s Not a Celebration of Ohio if All Ohioans Can’t Come: Building a More Inclusive Fair Experience
Join us for the debut of Connecting the Dots, a new podcast series from the Autism Center at OCALI, aimed at raising awareness about autism and empowering communities. In our first episode, we explore how the 2024 Ohio State Fair is advancing inclusivity through its Sensory-Friendly Morning. Now in its fifth year, this special event lowers noise and lights to create a more accessible environment for individuals with sensory sensitivities. Through conversations with families attending the fair and insights from key partners like the Ohio Department of Developmental Disabilities and the Autism Society of Central Ohio, we highlight how these efforts are making the fair more inclusive and enjoyable for everyone. Discover how small changes can make a big impact in creating events where everyone feels they belong.
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Sensory-Friendly Morning at the Ohio State Fair
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OLIVIA P: My name's
Olivia and
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my favorite thing
about the Fair is
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the food, the ice
cream, and the rides.
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FELIX C: We just
did the skyline,
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and she loved it.
I was terrified.
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ANNA D: I
love going over
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to the butterfly garden.
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TIANA E: I love to
canoe and fish,
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stuff, and then we
love the dairy farm.
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MANDY R: I think
we're off to try
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the pickle pizza
here soon.
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That's a new
thing here today.
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I like to try something
new every year.
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OLIVIA P: We do
it every year.
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We're starting
a tradition,
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and a lot of our families
come here. [MUSIC]
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SIMON BUEHRER: From the
Autism Center at OCALI,
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This is Connecting
the Dots.
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Our Inspiring
Change podcast
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series focused on raising
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awareness around autism to
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help build and
empower communities.
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Welcome to our
debut episode
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of this new series.
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I'm Simon Buehrer.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: I'm
Megan Trowbridge.
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SIMON BUEHRER: Megan, it
is great to see you.
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I'm really excited
about this new podcast
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from the Autism Center.
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Why don't we
start with that?
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For folks who
are not familiar
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with the Autism
Center at OCALI,
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can you tell us
a little bit
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about who you are,
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what you do,
what you offer?
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
Sure, so we are one of
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the centers at
OCALI and we're
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this big resource hub
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that provides information,
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training, support
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for individuals
with autism,
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their families, and all
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the professionals
that work with them.
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I'm going to talk about
some of the supports
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that we provide
throughout the podcast,
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but we have a fantastic
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grab-and-go gallery,
resource gallery.
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We've got a lot of
online resources,
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including this one that
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we're recording today.
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I'll be sharing
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some of those
throughout the podcast.
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SIMON BUEHRER: A wealth
of resources and
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information at the
Autism Center at OCALI,
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ocali.org/center/autism
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will take you
directly there.
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You can also
just go through
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our main website
ocali.org.
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The whole idea behind
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this podcast series is to
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amplify all the great work
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that you're doing at
the Autism Center,
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specifically in
an audio format.
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When you guys
first came to me
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and we were talking
about this idea,
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it's something that I love
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as an on-the-go person.
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I love a good podcast,
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because I can take
it with me when I am
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walking the dog or out on
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the bike trail or
working in the garden.
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It's just a
portable format,
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and it's something
that you can
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do while you're
doing other things.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: I'm
on the road a lot,
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and so that's one thing
that I do is podcasts –
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and why wouldn't
our center do one?
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Last year we were
thinking of a resource
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that we haven't
really tapped into
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yet and this podcast idea
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came up. Talking
with my director,
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I mentioned that I've
listened to quite
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a few while I'm
on the road.
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We created within
our work scope,
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this podcast.
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We settled on three
primary objectives.
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We really want to educate
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and empower individuals.
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We want to really raise
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awareness and build
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that community
engagement piece.
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SIMON BUEHRER: I love
these objectives.
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What we're going
to do is use
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this podcast to
highlight conversations.
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We're going to
talk to parents.
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We're going to talk
to professionals.
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We're going to talk to
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people on the spectrum.
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We're going to
share stories
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and personal experiences.
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Also, as you've
already mentioned,
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showcase some of
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the great resources
and opportunities
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available through the
Autism Center at OCALI.
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We're going to bring
everything back under
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this equation that we've
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been talking about for
the last few years,
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the Access plus Belonging
equals Community,
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otherwise known as
the A+B = C equation.
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We're going to
talk a lot about
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how to build and
support access.
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You can cultivate genuine
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belonging in your
groups, in your events,
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your celebrations,
your gatherings.
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Anything that you're doing
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to bring people together,
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we're going to work to
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help provide you
with ideas and
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resources to help build
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and cultivate stronger,
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vibrant, and more
dynamic communities.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: When we
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start talking about ideas
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of our first podcast,
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we really wanted to
focus on community.
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One of the things
that OCALI does is
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provide support to
the Ohio State Fair.
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When we think
about a strong,
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vibrant, dynamic
community,
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we thought this would be
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the best way to kick off
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our podcast series is
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focusing on the
Ohio State Fair.
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SIMON BUEHRER: Oh,
I love the Fair.
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This is a great idea.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
Of course, you do.
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[LAUGHTER] The
Ohio State Fair –
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It happens every
late July, August.
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It's one of the
longest-running
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and largest state
fairs in the U.S.,
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and our Family and
Community Outreach Center
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and our other
OCALI centers,
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along with some of
our partners like DODD,
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OOD, Autism Society
of Central Ohio.
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We've really worked
with the Fair
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over the past couple
of years to build
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a more inclusive
Fair experience
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where everyone
can participate.
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One of the main
features of
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these efforts is
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our Sensory-Friendly
Morning.
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JESS WEST: We
say that it's
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a day to experience,
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the Ohio State Fair
with lower lights,
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lower sounds, so that
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it's "Fair Lite,"
we'll say.
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It's a nice time
to come out
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to a little bit
calmer Fair,
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so people can come out,
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enjoy the
entertainment that's
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maybe a little bit quieter
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than it traditionally
would be.
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Not hear all the
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P. A. announcements
going on,
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not see all the
flashing lights
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from the rides.
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Truly experiencing
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a little bit quieter,
calmer fair.
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Even if you're
not interested in
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participating in
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other Sensory-Friendly
Morning activities,
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this is still such
a nice day to come
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out and experience
the Fair
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just slightly quieter.
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SIMON BUEHRER: That
was Jess West.
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Besides having
a cool name,
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she's the Public
Information Officer for
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the Ohio State Fair and
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Ohio Expo Center,
Jess West,
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talking about
Sensory-Friendly Morning
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at the Ohio State Fair,
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which originally had
its debut in 2019.
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It's been going on for
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several years now
really picking
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up steam and momentum.
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It starts at 10:00
A.M and it runs
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until 1:00 P.M. You've
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got about 3 hours
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As Jess said, that's
the time when we
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turn down the sounds
such as the PA system,
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some of the
loud music that
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you'll hear through
the midway.
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sensory-friendly
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Jess went on to tell
us about a big change
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that happened in the
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Sensory-Friendly
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JESS WEST:
Traditionally,
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for the past
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we've had
Sensory-Friendly Morning
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on a Wednesday
of the Fair,
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the second Wednesday
of the Fair –
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a week in. And this year,
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we're having it on
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the second day
of the Fair.
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That is a big change.
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It's happening on
Thursday this year.
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You know, we got
some feedback from
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OCALI and our
other partners for
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Sensory-Friendly
Morning and decided
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let's try out this
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Thursday and see
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Jess mentioned,
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we switched
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the Sensory-Friendly
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a Wednesday to a Thursday,
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and also from
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to the first week.
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The main reason why
they did that was
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the tornado siren
test that happens
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every Wednesday at
noon in Central Ohio.
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It happens right in
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the middle of
Sensory-Friendly Morning.
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It's very loud at the Fair
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because there's a siren
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right there at
the fairgrounds,
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which is great, but not
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on a Sensory-Friendly
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Even though we'd
tell people,
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we'd give them an
advance notice
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that it's going to happen.
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It's still very jarring
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to hear in the middle
of that morning,
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especially when it's
nice and quiet.
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It definitely is not
sensory-friendly.
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SIMON BUEHRER: That's
exactly right, Megan,
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when that siren goes,
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you can feel it
in your bones.
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just a good example
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of how we have
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learned over the
years that when we
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offer something like
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Sensory-Friendly Morning,
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we always solicit feedback
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from everyone involved
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from our other partners,
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from attendees, from
the Fair itself,
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and we take all of that
collective feedback.
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Then we make
little tweaks and
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modifications
and changes to
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try to make it
even better.
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That's based on
feedback and collaboration
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and continuous work with
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all of our
different partners,
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which is also
really important.
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DR. LAURA SORG: This day is
such an important day.
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One, it gives individuals
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a chance to shine
here at the Fair to
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know that this
day is really
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all for them and to
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know that there are not
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only amazing attractions,
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great food, and
other things to do,
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but to also know
that there is
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a wealth of different
information,
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as well as teams that
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are here to support them,
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such as us here
at Ohio DODD,
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OCALI, the Autism
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Society of Central
Ohio, etc.
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It's going to
be a great day.
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It's perfect weather,
and if people, though,
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if they need a little place
to park themselves,
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if they're
having a moment.
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I know that can happen
even for myself.
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It's great because we have
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the sensory room and
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a lot of other
important things,
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especially with our
friends from OOD.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: That was
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Dr. Laura Sorg
and she is
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the medical director at
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the Ohio Department of
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Developmental
Disabilities.
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What was interesting
about speaking
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with her was she
came and found me
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because she really
wanted to talk about
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the partnerships that we
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have at the Ohio
State Fair.
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At the very end of the
clip, she mentioned
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OOD which maybe a lot
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of people don't know
what that stands for,
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but it's the Opportunities
for Ohioans with Disabilities—
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SIMON BUEHRER: O-O-D, OOD.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: Yes, O-O-D, OOD.
And she mentioned
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another partner –
the Autism
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Society of Central Ohio.
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She sought me out
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because she
really wanted to
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talk about these
partnerships.
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We're talking about
all the groups
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and organizations
that are involved,
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and we can't forget again
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to give a shout-out
to our own Family and
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Community Outreach Center
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who is very instrumental
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in leading and
coordinating
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the efforts for the
Sensory-Friendly Morning.
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That center director
is Gwen Harshaw.
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She's going to
introduce our Quiet
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Room at the State Fair.
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GWEN HARSHAW: I am
standing in front of
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our lovely Quiet Room,
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which is a nice respite
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for all of our visitors.
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If someone needs
to decompress
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and de-stress a little
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bit and get away
from some of
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the sounds and
sights around here,
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they can come and visit
us here and spend
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as much time as
they need to
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just relax. It's
air-conditioned.
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We have a lot of
things to help
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them deal with
their anxiety.
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We're just having a ball.
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SIMON BUEHRER: That was
Gwen Harshaw,
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program director of
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the OCALI
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Family and Community
Outreach Center,
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having a ball and also
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talking about
the Quiet Room,
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which is a great
feature that
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we offer not only on
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the Sensory-Friendly
Morning but
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throughout the 12 days
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of the Ohio State Fair.
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What it is is just
a quiet space,
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as Gwen described,
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where you can go
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when you need
to get a break.
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I mean, even during
Sensory-Friendly Morning,
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there's a lot
of hustle and
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bustle because there's
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still a lot of people, right?
And people make noise.
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I mean, there's
loud voices,
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and laughter, and screams –
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whether of delight
or anguish.
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But the Quiet
Room is there
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when you need a break
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when you need a time out.
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It's an
air-conditioned space,
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which is also really
welcome during
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the very hot days of
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late July and
early August.
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It's open throughout
the Fair.
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It's not just Sensory-
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Friendly Morning,
but all day,
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when you need to take
a break from the Fair,
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the Quiet Room is
another option.
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We haven't even gotten
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into some of the
other great features
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that we and our
partners have
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worked with the Fair
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over the years to provide.
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Just to tick off a
few of them – ASL,
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American Sign Language
that's offered during
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shows and concerts
throughout the fair.
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Universal changing areas.
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There are now two of
them at the Fair,
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and they provide safe and
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dignified spaces for
people who need them.
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There's also the
Aira system,
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which helps people who are
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blind or have low vision.
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It helps them navigate
the fairgrounds.
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It's really cool, Megan.
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Last year, we kind of
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tested it while
we were there.
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You have a live operator
on the other end.
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It works through
your mobile phone,
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and you can just kind
of hold your phone
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up and that person
can help direct
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you to an event, or
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an attraction, or a
ride, or a food stand.
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But it's cool to see it
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in action, and it's free,
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And it's another
way to help
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people be independent and
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independently
experience the fair.
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A lot of awesome
groups involved to
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make all these
things happen
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It really is a
coordinated village.
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It takes all of us,
and it takes a lot of
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pre-planning and a lot of
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preparation to
make it happen.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: I mean,
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preparation that is key.
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We don't want to
go put out fires.
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We want to make sure
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that we're
preventing them.
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Whether you're
hosting an event
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or you're attending
an event,
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the Boy Scout motto,
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"Be Prepared," is
one to follow.
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EMILY BILLINGS: We
brought this stroller.
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We actually really
would love, like,
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a medical stroller
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because he's
getting bigger,
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but this is what
works for now.
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It's his safe space.
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We brought chewies with us.
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We brought safe foods,
all the things.
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He uses an AAC device.
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We use Proloquo2Go.
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Is the app that
is on his device.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
Did you program
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anything specifically
for the fair today?
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EMILY BILLINGS: I should
have, but we didn't.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
That's okay.
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Just so you know
in the future,
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on our website,
at OCALI,
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we do have some
visual supports
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that are on there.
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If you decide to come
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back you might
want to utilize.
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EMILY BILLINGS:
Okay, awesome.
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SIMON BUEHRER: That was
parent Emily Billings,
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who was attending the
fair with her family.
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You did a really nice job
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there at the end, Megan,
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you kind of
gently suggested
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that maybe the next
time she could
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prepare her
son's AAC device
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in advance before
coming to the fair.
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AAC for those folks –
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just because we
always want to
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define our acronyms, right?
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Is augmentative and
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alternative
communication device.
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It's a device that
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folks can use
to communicate.
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You had also mentioned
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some of the
visual supports
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and told Emily
that we have
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those available and we
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post them on our website.
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Can you talk a
little bit about
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what some of those
are and what they do?
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: On
our website, you can
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just search "Ohio
State Fair."
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Then select our
page on the fair.
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On there, we first offer
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a social narrative
specific
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to visiting the Fair.
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It's got a nice story
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about what to expect
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while you're at the Fair.
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It's got some
good visuals and
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pictures of different
areas at the Fair.
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At the very end,
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it also provides a kind of
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a choose-your-own-adventure
where you
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can fill out for
a child kind
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of what their
schedule might
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look like when
they're there.
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That's a great resource
that we developed ...
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SIMON BUEHRER: That's fun.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: [LAUGHTER]
Yeah. We want
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them to be prepared.
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I just got done
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talking about
preparation is key.
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As a family you
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might need to do
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a little bit of that
on your own as well.
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SIMON BUEHRER: Absolutely.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
We've also
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included links
to our Grab and
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Go Resource Gallery
of Interventions to
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a lot of different
templates
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like maybe a
First-Then Board
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or a big one is waiting
or taking turns.
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That can be a
challenge when you're
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waiting for your favorite
ride at the fair.
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Having that visual support
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could be very helpful.
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Again, on our resources,
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you literally just
print them and go.
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You don't have to go
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searching they're
right there.
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SIMON BUEHRER: That's the
whole "grab-and-go" part.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
Absolutely.
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SIMON BUEHRER: I love it.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: We
also had the Department
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of Developmental
Disabilities DODD.
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They were giving away
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communication
boards at the fair.
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I actually saw
them standing in
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front of the Quiet Room.
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Those are great
because they
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help people
communicate wants and
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needs by pointing
to symbols
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or pictures that
are on that board.
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SIMON BUEHRER: Oh,
yeah, right.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
I did see a couple
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of families take those,
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so that's a great
resource with
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one of our
community partners.
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They can be very helpful
for people who are
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non-verbal or who simply
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just prefer to
communicate in that way.
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SIMON BUEHRER: They're
all great resources.
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I think the only
problem that we
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noticed is that we
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were talking to
some people,
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and they just didn't
know about them.
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It's just part of
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our ongoing
communication efforts
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that we need to do through
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the Autism Center through
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the Family and Community
Outreach Center,
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through all of our
different partners,
523
00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:26,510
just to let people know
524
00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:28,710
that these resources
are available.
525
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:29,930
They're free. You can
526
00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:31,230
access them ahead of time,
527
00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:34,175
you can download them,
print them, use them.
528
00:15:34,175 --> 00:15:36,410
It really is just a way
529
00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:38,270
to help you better prepare
530
00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:39,570
even before you arrive at
531
00:15:39,570 --> 00:15:41,310
the Fairgrounds for...
532
00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:42,839
choosing your
own adventure.
533
00:15:42,839 --> 00:15:43,905
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
Absolutely.
534
00:15:43,905 --> 00:15:45,790
Communication, it's key,
535
00:15:45,790 --> 00:15:47,150
whether it's through
our website,
536
00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:47,830
social media,
537
00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:50,250
or the importance
of word of mouth,
538
00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:53,130
because Emily
actually spoke
539
00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:54,950
to one of our
employees here,
540
00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:56,290
and that's kind of
how she found out
541
00:15:56,290 --> 00:15:58,455
about this
Sensory-Friendly Morning.
542
00:15:58,455 --> 00:16:00,870
Word of mouth is
absolutely key.
543
00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:03,070
Families sharing with
other families.
544
00:16:03,070 --> 00:16:04,610
We talked to a
couple of people who
545
00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:06,030
are meeting up with
other families,
546
00:16:06,030 --> 00:16:07,590
professionals sharing
with their clients,
547
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:09,110
as well as other
professionals.
548
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:11,610
Our colleague, Amy
Bixler Coffin,
549
00:16:11,610 --> 00:16:13,250
she spoke with
another mother,
550
00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:15,274
Mandy Roberts, about this.
551
00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:16,260
AMY BIXLER COFFIN:
If you had
552
00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:19,100
a family member
or a friend
553
00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:21,120
who maybe might have
554
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,440
a family member who has
sensory differences,
555
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,100
would you
encourage them to
556
00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:28,139
come on this
morning and why?
557
00:16:28,139 --> 00:16:29,440
MANDY ROBERTS: I
absolutely would.
558
00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,000
Because it's more low key.
559
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,160
I think a lot of people
get overstimulated,
560
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,425
even if they don't
have diagnosed
561
00:16:36,425 --> 00:16:37,580
sensory issues,
562
00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:39,080
and I think it's
a nice change
563
00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,340
to be able to come
here and that
564
00:16:40,340 --> 00:16:42,160
people are
recognizing that
565
00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,440
it's something
that they need to
566
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,540
address in public forums
567
00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:46,929
like this – in
public events.
568
00:16:46,929 --> 00:16:47,780
It's not something
569
00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:48,780
I know when I was a kid,
570
00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:50,180
it wasn't a thing.
571
00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:51,280
We just went, and I think
572
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,500
it's important
to recognize
573
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,680
that people have
differences that way
574
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,404
and try to
accommodate them.
575
00:16:55,404 --> 00:16:56,400
SIMON BUEHRER: I love
576
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,460
that clip from
Mandy Roberts.
577
00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:01,020
It just goes back to
this whole notion
578
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:02,160
that we recognize
579
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,520
that people have
differences.
580
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,220
Obviously,
differences vary.
581
00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:06,600
Sensory issues vary.
582
00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,940
You know, when I
was there, Megan,
583
00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:10,180
I had the good
fortune to talk to
584
00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:13,240
a woman who had just
come in the Fair,
585
00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,540
so, actually, she was
586
00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:15,975
trying to go to
the bathroom. [LAUGHTER]
587
00:17:15,975 --> 00:17:17,730
I felt bad for
stopping her,
588
00:17:17,730 --> 00:17:20,650
but it really was a
joy to talk with her.
589
00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:22,530
Her name was
Netter. She was
590
00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:25,340
a former athletic
director and educator.
591
00:17:25,340 --> 00:17:28,550
When I say that she was
a lifelong Fair-goer,
592
00:17:28,550 --> 00:17:30,790
I mean that literally,
not figuratively,
593
00:17:30,790 --> 00:17:32,290
she was taken to the
594
00:17:32,290 --> 00:17:34,750
Fair when she was
two weeks old,
595
00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:38,415
and she has been
back every year.
596
00:17:38,415 --> 00:17:40,690
It is commitment. It is
597
00:17:40,690 --> 00:17:42,190
a lifelong commitment.
598
00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:44,150
65 years she's
been doing this,
599
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:45,270
and the only one that she
600
00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:46,985
missed was during COVID.
601
00:17:46,985 --> 00:17:49,190
Netter was gracious enough
602
00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:51,250
to stop and talk to
us for a little bit,
603
00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:52,670
and she shared this
little pearl of
604
00:17:52,670 --> 00:17:55,310
wisdom about recognizing
differences.
605
00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:56,880
NETTER NEIGHBARGER: In every
walk of life,
606
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,180
we need to be
able to stand in
607
00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:01,060
somebody else's shoes
and see how they feel,
608
00:18:01,060 --> 00:18:03,170
and how would I feel
in that position?
609
00:18:03,170 --> 00:18:05,220
There's a lot that
you can't see.
610
00:18:05,220 --> 00:18:08,300
There's invisible
disabilities that
611
00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:10,905
people can't see,
and you don't know.
612
00:18:10,905 --> 00:18:13,019
So be kind to everybody.
613
00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:14,570
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
I think what
614
00:18:14,570 --> 00:18:16,550
Netter said just hits it.
615
00:18:16,550 --> 00:18:18,760
You have to get
to know a person,
616
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,360
you have to get to
know their individual
617
00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:21,760
needs and their
preferences.
618
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,040
When we talk about
support options,
619
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,840
they're not going to
620
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,474
be the same for everyone.
621
00:18:26,474 --> 00:18:28,935
SIMON BUEHRER: That brings
us back to that
622
00:18:28,935 --> 00:18:31,050
A + B = C equation,
623
00:18:31,050 --> 00:18:33,110
Access plus
Belonging, equals
624
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:34,550
Community that
we talked about
625
00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:36,645
at the very beginning
of this episode.
626
00:18:36,645 --> 00:18:38,210
It's really not that hard.
627
00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:40,070
As a host, as
an organizer,
628
00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:42,230
you can just start with
a simple question.
629
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:43,870
What can I do to make
630
00:18:43,870 --> 00:18:46,775
this experience more
accessible for you?
631
00:18:46,775 --> 00:18:48,330
And see where that takes you.
632
00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:49,690
Whether it's a fair,
633
00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:51,500
a concert, a party,
634
00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,689
or even just the
great outdoors.
635
00:18:53,689 --> 00:18:54,980
ANDY CHOW: ODNR has
been around since
636
00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:56,920
1949 to help people
637
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,765
experience the
great outdoors.
638
00:18:58,765 --> 00:19:01,355
Going back to the
Sensory-Friendly Day,
639
00:19:01,355 --> 00:19:04,940
it's creating more
access to these things,
640
00:19:04,940 --> 00:19:08,040
and ODNR works on
constantly trying to
641
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,440
make sure that the
great outdoors
642
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,520
is accessible
to everybody.
643
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,239
That's a huge part
of our mission.
644
00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:14,710
SIMON BUEHRER: That
was Andy Chow from
645
00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:17,170
the Ohio Department
of Natural Resources,
646
00:19:17,170 --> 00:19:18,610
and we haven't
mentioned it yet,
647
00:19:18,610 --> 00:19:20,290
but the ODNR Ohio
648
00:19:20,290 --> 00:19:22,670
Department of Natural
Resources Park on
649
00:19:22,670 --> 00:19:24,690
the fairgrounds
is arguably one
650
00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:27,210
of the best features of
the Ohio State Fair.
651
00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:29,110
A natural little oasis
652
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:30,710
built into the
fairgrounds.
653
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:33,170
It's a built-in sensory-
friendly environment.
654
00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:34,670
And if we needed a reminder
655
00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:36,170
that we should
all be outside as
656
00:19:36,170 --> 00:19:38,670
much as possible and
visiting our state and
657
00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:41,450
national parks what
better reminder
658
00:19:41,450 --> 00:19:44,330
than to actually be in
that kind of space?
659
00:19:44,330 --> 00:19:45,580
In the middle of
660
00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:47,700
the city in the
middle of the Fair.
661
00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,940
The more we work together
to make our parks,
662
00:19:49,940 --> 00:19:51,840
our fairs, our events,
663
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,960
more accessible, the
stronger our communities
664
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,700
at large are going to be.
665
00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:58,120
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: We
want to help everyone do
666
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,040
the same work in
667
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,660
their own communities
because I'm
668
00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:01,620
sure a lot of you have
669
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:02,740
attended events
that you're
670
00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:04,340
thinking there could have
671
00:20:04,340 --> 00:20:05,940
been something that could
have been improved.
672
00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:08,840
We have a great free
guide on our website.
673
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,520
It's called Access
Plus Belonging
674
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,500
Equals Community
Event Guide.
675
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,340
If you go to ocali.org and
676
00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:15,920
search the community
event guide,
677
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,540
you'll find it,
678
00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:18,500
and it gives you a
lot of great pointers
679
00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,140
on how to make
680
00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,009
your events
accessible as well.
681
00:20:21,009 --> 00:20:21,960
SIMON BUEHRER: Absolutely.
682
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,500
It's a great
resource, and again,
683
00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:24,340
one that can help you
684
00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:25,920
reflect on your
own events and
685
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840
your own offerings and
answer this question.
686
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,580
What can you do
to make them more
687
00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:31,800
accessible and help
688
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,899
ensure that
everyone belongs?
689
00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:37,640
KELLY D: Well, my
grandson, he's autistic.
690
00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:39,560
We thought he might
691
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,960
get something out of that.
692
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,004
A little easier for him.
693
00:20:43,004 --> 00:20:44,984
YOUNG MAN: Butterflies – we had
butterflies landed on us.
694
00:20:44,984 --> 00:20:45,960
PARENT 1: What's
your favorite thing
695
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,769
to do at the Fair?
696
00:20:46,769 --> 00:20:48,140
CHILD 1: My
favorite thing to do
697
00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:50,469
is probably the
big ferris wheel.
698
00:20:50,469 --> 00:20:53,229
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: Any favorite
foods you like here?
699
00:20:53,229 --> 00:20:54,400
CHILD 1: I don't really
700
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,824
eat here, to be honest.
701
00:20:55,824 --> 00:21:00,940
CHILD 1: Fried Twinkies!
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: Oh, fried Twinkies. Yes. [LAUGHTER]
702
00:21:00,940 --> 00:21:03,045
AMY BIXLER COFFIN: The
big rainbow slide?
703
00:21:03,045 --> 00:21:04,754
Do you like slides?
704
00:21:04,754 --> 00:21:05,654
CHILD 2: Yes.
705
00:21:05,654 --> 00:21:06,300
AMY BIXLER COFFIN:
Are you going to
706
00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:07,694
get something to eat?
707
00:21:07,694 --> 00:21:08,459
CHILD 2: Yeah.
708
00:21:08,459 --> 00:21:09,239
AMY BIXLER COFFIN:
What do you want?
709
00:21:09,239 --> 00:21:11,234
CHILD 2: I wanted
cotton candy!
710
00:21:11,234 --> 00:21:12,944
AMY BIXLER COFFIN:
Cotton Candy!
711
00:21:12,944 --> 00:21:14,910
CHILD 3: Well,
there's this little,
712
00:21:14,910 --> 00:21:17,340
stream tables that
got water and
713
00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:19,570
a bunch of, like, crayfish.
714
00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:24,144
and help my like a...there
a larva to a bug?
715
00:21:24,144 --> 00:21:24,760
PARENT 3:
And you like to
716
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,424
go kayaking over there?
717
00:21:26,424 --> 00:21:26,890
CHILD 3: I like
718
00:21:26,890 --> 00:21:29,394
the kayaking pool
and everything.
719
00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:31,990
JESS WEST: So we want
the Ohio State Fair
720
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:33,650
to be for all Ohioans.
721
00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:36,010
The Ohio State Fair is
such a big celebration
722
00:21:36,010 --> 00:21:37,730
of all that Ohio
has to offer.
723
00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:39,390
We want everyone to
724
00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:40,650
be able to
experience that.
725
00:21:40,650 --> 00:21:42,450
I mean, it's not
a celebration of
726
00:21:42,450 --> 00:21:44,370
Ohio if all Ohioans
can't come.
727
00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:45,730
We want to make sure that
728
00:21:45,730 --> 00:21:46,510
everyone's coming out and
729
00:21:46,510 --> 00:21:47,610
they're having a
good experience,
730
00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:50,330
and they're enjoying
the celebration. {MUSIC}
731
00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,140
SIMON BUEHRER: It's not
a celebration of Ohio
732
00:21:56,140 --> 00:21:58,100
if all Ohioans can't come.
733
00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,200
I love that statement
from Jess West.
734
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,580
That really sums
up the access
735
00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:05,030
and inclusion that we're
all working towards.
736
00:22:05,030 --> 00:22:07,340
I definitely enjoyed
the celebration,
737
00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:08,510
and our visit to the Fair.
738
00:22:08,510 --> 00:22:10,975
It was a great day.
739
00:22:10,975 --> 00:22:12,520
And it's been a lot of
fun working with you
740
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,040
on this podcast
episode, Megan.
741
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,360
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE:
You too. You know,
742
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,460
after we get
done recording,
743
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,080
we kind of went
our separate ways.
744
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,760
We didn't really get
a chance to chat.
745
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,900
I just want to know what's
746
00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:21,530
your favorite food?
747
00:22:21,530 --> 00:22:22,594
What did you
have this year?
748
00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:24,850
SIMON BUEHRER: Oh, good
one! This year,
749
00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:26,330
I was really
looking forward
750
00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:29,130
to the pickle lemonade.
751
00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:32,090
This was one of the
new features that
752
00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:33,570
they announced this
year. Because I
753
00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:35,880
love pickles.
I love lemons.
754
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,910
And I have to say, at
least the one that I
755
00:22:37,910 --> 00:22:39,850
tried was a little
disappointing.
756
00:22:39,850 --> 00:22:41,310
It was kind of not very
757
00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:43,130
pickly, not very lemony.
758
00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:45,210
It was just sort of
a watered-down mess.
759
00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:46,169
What about you?
760
00:22:46,169 --> 00:22:47,990
MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: I'm
not adventurous at all.
761
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:49,810
Pickles are not
my cup of tea.
762
00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:51,990
I like to just stick
with classics –
763
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:53,554
corn dogs, funnel cake.
764
00:22:53,554 --> 00:22:54,470
SIMON BUEHRER: The classics,
765
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:55,650
they're classics
for a reason.
766
00:22:55,650 --> 00:22:57,500
I'm glad you got
to enjoy those.
767
00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:00,010
The good news is the
Fair is coming back.
768
00:23:00,010 --> 00:23:01,450
It'll be back
again next year,
769
00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:03,190
and we'll keep working
towards building
770
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,605
access and inclusion
with the Fair,
771
00:23:05,605 --> 00:23:07,550
with all of our partners.
772
00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:09,490
We'll have the
opportunity to again,
773
00:23:09,490 --> 00:23:11,250
enjoy both traditional
and some of
774
00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:13,465
the more off-the-wall
foods and beverages.
775
00:23:13,465 --> 00:23:14,940
You've been listening
to Connecting
776
00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:16,380
the Dots podcast series
777
00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:18,760
from the Autism
Center at OCALI.
778
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,990
You can find all of
779
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:21,700
OCALI's podcast
episodes at
780
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,410
ocali.org/podcasts
781
00:23:24,410 --> 00:23:26,660
or wherever you
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ocali.org/center/autism.
This has been
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a delight. I'm
Simon Buehrer.
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MEGAN TROWBRIDGE: I'm
Megan Trowbridge.
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