California 300 Recap - MacCachren, Sims, Romo, Cognito, & More

The California 300 was a wild race, filled with rough terrain, broken vehicles, and winners!  We talk with the racers, teams, promoters, and get all the behind the scenes info on the inaugural event.  Good times had by all!

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Welcome to the dirt life show with your host, George Hamil. What's up everyone? Welcome to Episode 146 of the dirt life show tonight we got a rad rad show for you guys. And we're going to talk about everything the California 300 inaugural event just passed this past week. There's tons of people out there as rad. We're going to talk to a whole bunch of people let me go down the list right here. We're going to talk to Jackson Mandel. Youth racer gray Kelly youth racer. We're going to talk a Brandon Sims got second in the it's called the PR class the pro our class. It's got three one that Skyler house co driver is gonna come on here, Romo is gonna come on. Randy Romo just shredded everybody in the short course race. Chris Meyer is going to come on from Max's tires, talk about his fun weekend. That was a cool project. Later James and Ethan Eber is gonna come on from Team Honda off road as well. Talk about how all that went down. Ryan Edwards is going to call in a little bit later. What's up, man extry. How are you and take over already? Let's see here. Ryan Edwards. Like I said, Man, he had a good time out there as well. Caden McHale Akron won his first ever unlimited Trophy Truck Race. So that's pretty rad. Justin Lambert is gonna call in, I think they were second across the line or first across the line in the Pro Turbo class with Max Eddie is a co driver. So we'll ask him about that. I know there was some adjustments and stuff like that at the end. And Bella and Cruz Burchard are gonna call in as well. Bella and Cruz had a very eventful weekend. But the cool part about it is they're both safe now. Got a couple battered, battered and bruised, I guess you could say. But they are going to call in talk to us about safety. Talk to us about their weekend, and hopefully shed shed some light on how we can all be better off road racers. And then finally, we're gonna talk with Matt Martelly, the owner and founder of the California 300 Men 400 Mad media, he's going to tell us how the weekend went. So extra I will. So James 300 was an awesome race. It really was great to the race recap. So all right, we're gonna start getting people coming on here and just a little bit. But before we do, I want to thank all of our sponsors for being part of the show. We have a ton of good sponsors, man. You can always follow us on Facebook, YouTube, and hang out with us on Monday nights. Please share the show with all your friends, man, we really want to blow this thing up. So if you're listening to it on podcast at a later date, Please share the show. Tell everybody about it. And hit us in the DMS anytime you want. Thank you to the guys over at KMC wheels for always being a part of the show. Boom that Red Hat and then thank you the guys over at Max's tires for helping all the racers man they've been doing such a great job. They had such a busy weekend Chris Meyer and everybody. Jeremy McGrath, Roland McGrath West Miller whole bunch of Max's guys. Thank you guys over at Xander racing products. They're doing a fabulous job you can use the code let's see here. Dirt life show buy some tie rods radius rods all that good stuff thank you guys over at Motul looks like they are doing oil change right there on one of these cars at img motorsports because that's where we're at today. So thank you to James and John for letting us hang out here thank you guys over at shock therapy use the code dirt life save on limit strap steering racks BSD kids, you get the right improvement system all that good stuff. Thanks, guys. Alright JL Audio thanks guys. Evolution power sports. Thank you to the guys over at Vision canopy and thank you guys at cryo heat. Alright, so we're gonna start. Let's see here, who's our first guest today? It looks like we're going to talk with Jackson Mandel. Here, James. John are the best people ever. Yeah, dude. So awesome. So a couple of things that I wanted to hit on first of all was how rad it is to be back racing desert in Southern California. I mean, dude, it was super cool to see and then just algea and everything that was going on behind it looks like Jackson was requesting to join. So we'll get Jackson in here. We'll start talking with him. See how his weekend went? But yeah, it was super cool to be back out in Southern California. Super off track. Jackson Amanda What's up buddy? How are you? Good. How are you? I'm doing awesome. Let me see if we could turn your volume up a little bit here so we could hear you really good. There you go. Man. How was your race is dude what actually start off by this? Give us your full name and tell us what class you raise. My name is Jackson Mandel and Irish the youth 170 The center seat center seat what does that mean? So it's where some cars sit on the left side and some cars sit in the middle. And you like sitting in the middle better. Yeah, dude like the RS one. That seems so cool man cuz it's like feels way more like moto when you're sitting in the middle, huh? Yeah. So you raced? Which class do you say 171 70? US Open. And, man. I saw you doing that dance at the end. Should we show everybody? Sure. But that was pretty cool. So let's go through your race. Let's see here. Hold on a second. I can't have my chain out now. Yeah, what kind of chain is that? Dude, you just flexing on everybody or what? I'm actually asking you, Jackson. What kind of chain is that? Chain? Oh, you're just out here flexing on people or what? No. We already got talking about your chain did. It was my dad's when he was in high school. That thing's pretty cool. Man. I remember wearing one of those in high school too. So that's rad. So give us a little bit of a breakdown on how your race went. And then well, actually, you know what? Let's show this first. Check that out. That was pretty rad. What do you got that first place, right? Yeah. Look at that dance. Did you practice your dance moves? Or what? Yeah, you did? Yeah. Every night. Are you serious? Yeah. Are you a big dance guy or what? Oh, really? Like, I was just like, I told my mom, I'm like, if I win, this is the dance I'm gonna do on my roof. Really? That's so cool. What did your mom say? She's like, go for it. Yeah. I think that's pretty rad. So I actually got a couple of comments that came in the next guest. That's gonna come on, you know who Greg Kelly is? Yeah, she said she was pretty hyped and your dance did? Good. Maybe that's what you should do. You should start charging people at the races to learn how to dance. So you could teach them how to do podium dances? Yeah. All right, give us a little bit of a rundown of how your race went, buddy. Oh, it was good. Off the start. There's two jumps. And a lot of people like, I didn't know if I should hit the first jumps or not. So I just kind of like seen on the site lab what I should do. So I've kind of rolled it the first lap. And then I think on the first lap, I was in fourth. And then my second lab. I got into third. Then it was the it stayed third for a few laps. And it just like switched up by people. I was in second at one point and then took a wrong like Wrong Turn on the outside and then got passed. Then I was like maybe like a slap something around there and got around first and second. So then after that should clean air and pushed hard. Yeah, it seems like there was a lot of details like in the race that were pretty rad. Like, I don't know exactly, because I didn't get to like pre run your guys's little 170 course. But it seemed like there was a lot of rocks. It was pretty rough. And like, I don't know, upsetting the car the whole time. So how did you deal with that kind of stuff when you went out there? Did you get time to practice? Or did you just go out there and go you know, full throttle the whole time. We did this title up and then that was it and then just full throttle. Is it pretty easy to adjust that quickly when you're out there racing against all those other fast kids? Some tracks it is and sometimes it's not. Because like this track, it was a lot of straightaways and like turns and got really rough quick. So the first lap it was really simple to understand the track and then once I got more down it was getting a little rougher and you had to take more different you have to take different lines to get around the rough spots. So you can you have a like a faster line. Yeah, so you can keep your momentum and stay smooth. So I was actually talking to Jim Beaver when we were opening up the show out there and talking about what was going to be one of the I guess factors you already mentioned, it might be a theme throughout the whole show tonight was that when we went out pre running on the course, the course was awesome. Like, it was cool. There was rocks. I mean, it was the desert, right. But we noticed that a lot of horsepower helped a lot because the tracks started getting grooves and soft sand and you really needed to buy in and get out of those corners. So I can only imagine what you guys have, you know, felt on that Saturday, because they had raced on Friday too. So I was thinking that the more horsepower the better, but you're kind of saying the same thing. But you're also saying that you guys had to be real choosy on the lines that you pick to keep up your momentum. Was it easy for you to navigate that when you because you're used to racing short course you always have that now, that idea of momentum, right. So was it easy for you to adjust and get all through that in the race? Well, it's took me a few years to get to that point. But for this race, now that I'm like, older, and I've been racing for a little bit longer. Yeah, it's gotten easier. Yeah, that's cool. How old are you now? 10. And I started racing. Technically. So when I was three, I raced quads, but when I was four, I got into razors. So I've been racing for about six or seven years. Did you ever do two wheel racing or no? No, no bikes or anything? Did Big Four Wheel guy right here. That's cool, man. And the razors. Sounds like it's like pretty much where it's at for you now. You like it? Yeah. Yeah, it's it's sweet man. And I've seen you raise a bunch and obviously you're a fast kid. You came home with the victory and a victory dance. That was pretty rad. Did what was your favorite part about the whole race? Probably like one thing that always gets me excited is making a pass and like, just like making the pass in. One thing that I liked about that track was the two jumps because my sharks were doing good and off those. Should we just call you? Jackson, the big Senator Mandel. Sure. That could be your new nickname. How far could you go off those big jumps we had the week when he took the Pro are out there on our site lap or on the pre round lab. We didn't get very far because it was like it was pretty big and you don't want to bottom out the back suspension. So I can only imagine you going through there. Yeah, for us. I came up full throttle every run. So I actually got like, maybe some around five feet. sending it off. That's got to be fully pinned under 170. Yeah, that's rad. Kayden Danbury just said to you we're the only one that sent the second jump in a mod car that's pretty sick, dude. Yeah, Kaden said you went huge. It was pretty cool to see all the kids having fun out there. Did you have some pretty good battles? Oh, yeah. In the stock race, but in the modrest didn't go as planned. Oh, man, what happened? Well, I was making a I got passed and I was making it pass back in. I got turned into and got sideways and started rolling. I rolled over and broke my break so it wouldn't go Yeah, that's a bummer though. But that's off road racing. Hey, so we only have about 30 seconds left. So I was gonna say is your mom behind the camera and maybe she can pan back a little bit we can see your car while you to thank all your sponsors real quick and we're gonna get gray on let's let's thank all your sponsors real quick on the side of your car so you can make them happy for winning that badass race. Colors razor or w gsp. STC s DPC powdercoating Hawk Bryan Jr. gatesville HMF antigravity batteries rugged radios, sprocket specialists havoc, pepper tuning DWT and juicy powders. Yeah, man. Well, you did a very good job and you did a awesome job in this interview to code St. Peter just said good job as well. The guys over at dirt rider design so you got a sick rap. So we're gonna get Greg Kelly on here. Is there anything else that you want to say or tell the audience before you bail out first on race results there and I'm excited I want yeah, you should be excited dude, you did a really, really good job. The only other thing that I would suggest is that you think thank your parents and your family and everybody that helped out in the crew. So go ahead and do that. My dad my brother, cheering me on in sir Danbury for taking all the videos and helping out. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Man, you got a lot of attention on social media. So keep up the good job on social media. And man, you're doing a really good job out there in the car. Like I'm pretty jealous to see all the skills that you already have at such a young age being 10 years old and that fast man. Even the guys that car one fabrication, you're a bad little dude, man. So keep it going. Thank you. No problem, dude. Okay, we're gonna get Greg Kelly on dude. Well, we're actually when's your next race before we get her on? Ted Loughlin at the best in the desert this weekend. Dude, you're racing this weekend, too. I'll be there. I'll see you there, man. So make sure you come say hi. Give me a high five. All right, homie. All right. We'll see you later, dude. Great job. Bye. Bye. All right, we're gonna get Greg Kelly on here and see how her race went as well. Man, it's so cool to talk with the kids. Like, we always talk about it the future of our sport, right. So we'll get Greg Kelly on as well. What's up, Grant? How are you? Good. So Jackson is just logging off right now. I think mom's probably looking for the X button. You can just click on the screen and then hit the X after you're done. Jen. So how was your race weekend? It was great. Did you guys do pretty good. Yeah. How did you give us a little bit of a description of your weekend when? Um, so basically off the starting line. We almost had a lap. I don't want to track it was so dusty that like, I would get so lost. Because it does. It's it was pretty dusty man. And even in the 170 class like actually do that real quick. Tell us what class you raised and how old your I am eight and I raced the youth one Sunday open. Yeah. And I saw you man, we saw a bunch of videos of you just shredding. I think I can probably pull one up on my phone here and show everybody. What was your favorite part of the race? Like all the jobs the turns like everything. It was actually pretty cool. Right? Like, how was your guy's track? Was it pretty easy to navigate? Or? No? Yeah, it was really easy. And you liked it? Yeah. It was great. Did you make some cool passes or battle with your, with your friends out there? I mean, I couldn't catch up. But I tried. So it's really I know that the 170 class is really competitive. And it's hard because those cars don't have that much power. But like Jackson just said, Was it like bogging you down going in some of those Sandy corners and the red some stuff? Yeah, I think I'd hit the brake too hard nude really slowing down. So what's the move? That is the best move to just keep it wide open and just try to hold the steering wheel through the rat? Yeah, I would say like just like, go in really hard. And then like break like the tiniest bit of a like, just floor out. That's pretty cool. We just talked to Jackson about being a big senator, were you trying to do the same thing? I'm sore. I didn't want to flap on it. But like, I was trying to send a little bit, but I didn't want to hurt myself. I don't know if anybody else is getting the same vibe. And they can mention it in the comments. But I really liked the way you talk because you're like fully into the racing vibe, man. It's cool no problem. I think you're well and you it looks like you got dressed up and everything for the interview. What a good thing to do for all your sponsors and for your family and stuff to make sure that they appreciate it. So keep up the good work. Thank you. Okay, so let's get back to the racing then. Do you have like a lot of desert racing experience underneath your belt? Or was this the first one? No, I raced I raced this one and then I raced best in the desert. But behind that, but when I was like out dry I was driving my car since I was like five at Dumont. Oh, so you got a little bit of experience then you're basically a veteran you got three years now. Brooke demon said you're a little rock star. Hey, so you know what I heard Bella Burchard said that you're rad. But you know what? I heard? I heard that you were driving like there was a cougar in your car. Yeah. What's your favorite movie? No, they can nice by Ricky Bobby. So when you were going through some of the dust was it hard to see like maybe kind of like you had a Fig Newton sticker on your car? Yeah, that's what I said to so fun. Because the dirt gets so like clogged up on your visor, it's like you can't see like you have a sticker on your car. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. And then, so we heard I told Jackson that we heard that you liked his dance on the podium. Yeah. Does that mean you're gonna start doing dancing to on the podium, baby? What's up Jacobs cone? Taylor, the coolest girl I know. Yeah, she's, you know what? She is really cool because she earned one of the limited dirt life hats, which most people don't have. So, good job for granted doing that. And that, yeah, so the only other one question that I was pretty much gonna ask you, and then we'll get you to tell. Tell us about your sponsors and stuff too was who some of your favorite drivers are and I think you might have even got to be able to meet some of them this weekend. I'm Jacob Williamson, Nixon Nagel, Jackson Mandel gave me some vandal Brooklyn, diamond and tiara. Yeah, so didn't you? Well, you already know Brooklyn. But you got to meet. I think Sierra and you also got to meet Bella Burchard, too, didn't you? Yeah, that's pretty cool because they're professional drivers. And Ciara is going to come on the show a little bit later today. She's going to come and talk about stuff too. So it's pretty cool that you get to hang out with all those people and see him at the races. Yeah, it's really cool. Did you get to check out some of their cars like Ciara has that new Pro our car Bella had that awesome car. What I put on when I go over to JLo is I get to walk right past her car. Oh, well, there she goes share Rama just commented in with a bunch of hearts. That's cool, man. So you're already making waves in the off road industry. So when you go and like talk to them and idol is because I still have my idols like I got to talk to Jeremy McGrath this weekend. It was so cool him and Rohan. And so when you get to see Sierra Roma and stuff, how does it make you feel? Does it give you like, excitement and you're like, man, one of these days, I can be like her if I put in a lot of hard work. Yeah, I'm like really excited, but half like nervous at the same time? Does it give you motivation to like do better at racing? So when you can do the best you can when you grow up? Yeah. What are some of the goals that you have in racing? Be better than yesterday? Like, I liked that one. Yeah. Hey, so you want to know a secret that I know that will help you and racing. And it's really easy. So if you ever have a goal, if you take a piece of paper and a pencil, and you write down that goal, it's much more likely to happen than if you just think about it, or put it in your phone. If you actually write it down with your fingers. It makes it so it's much more likely to happen. So maybe what you do is you ask your mom if she can, you know, give you an extra piece of paper and a pencil and you can keep it in your room. And once a month or once a week, you can write down your goals and see how much closer you're getting to each individual goal. It's it's pretty cool. And it's so easy, right? Yeah. I mean, you can just take a piece of paper and pencil. Yep, exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. So it pro tip, paper and pencil. But it does actually make a difference. And I'm really proud of you. You've been doing so much racing. We've seen you a lot. What's the next race that you have? I'm Dustin ledger Laughlin. No way, dude, everybody's going to this race. I'm gonna see you this weekend to again. I see you more than some of my best friends. It's pretty awesome to see you at the races. And like I said, I'm proud of you. One thing that I did want to tell you was Thank you very much for the gray Kelly racing hat. Like that's one of my favorite designs that you have on there. With the checkered flag and the red and yellow you got a really cool vibe going. Thank you so much. All right. So we got 30 seconds, we're going to do the same thing that we did for Jackson. Do you have people that you want to thank? Yes. Okay, go for it. Mom and dad, grandparents, Hana heavy haul dirt code, dirt rider designs, PCI, Elko car wanted pee pee tuning. Yeah, that's some good sponsors. Let me give you another pro tip. All right. So let's make sure that we thank the race promoters like mad media, Matt Martelly, and the California 300. Because if we didn't have them, we wouldn't be able to actually go out there and race and it took them a long time to be able to get that track ready and prepped for us and get it going. So let's thank them. And then let's also thank Brooke for being such a good person and helping us set all this up for you. Yeah, they're such nice people. Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Okay, well, we will see you this weekend at the actually what class you racing this weekend. The 170 open the same one. Yeah. What are you going to do better this weekend? I'm trying to pin it all the way, like throughout everything just as hard as you can push that gas pedal through the floorboard. Yeah, let's do it. All right, get your leg nice and Strong this week so we can see you shredding at the races. All right. Cool. Well, thank you very much for coming on the dirt life show. I hope you had a good time. And we'll see you this weekend. In this weekend, Viagra. Alright, so now we're gonna get Brandon Sims and Skye how on here and then we will talk a little bit more about some of the big racing. Man, it's so cool to see the kids and all the stuff that they've been doing. Brandon, Sims one yo, how are you? How are you? Tired, but I'm good. How are you? I'm doing pretty good man. Hey, before we get into talking about your race, seeing the kids out there and having fun and coming on the show and learning new things. How do you feel about the next generation man, because I'm pretty excited about it. I'll tell you what, it's a lot more exciting than when we were those kids. I mean, we never had that opportunity. We were on three wheelers, and in quads, so it's cool to see them in cages like that. And they got a lot of potential coming up. They're all fast. And the competition between all of them is is crazy to see. I mean, they're all in the battle with each other, and they all want to be the fastest. So that's pretty cool to see. I know. That's exactly what I was thinking to like, I wish that we had the opportunity back then. And now seeing them like it's just gonna be you know, 10 years from now they're all going to be in the professional class. Skyler. How, what's up, dude? Are you going on? Good? How are you? We're doing good. Hey, so we're just talking about the kids. But we're gonna fast forward and talk a little bit more about your guys race. So let's get a little bit of an understanding or lay down some groundwork or framework here. The PR class is a pro our class, is that what it is? Or how does it work now with the new four cylinder cars? And either one either one of you guys to answer? I don't think either of us know the answer. So that's a great question. It seems like no matter. Well, this is our first race in that car. So I mean, this is our first time racing in the PR 100 class, but it seems as though every organization has a different class in which this car is fits in. So I mean, that's the desert. I think it's the unlimited in the Martelli races. It's the PR 100 in Baja, I think it's also the unlimited. So I guess it depends on which organization you're racing in. Depends on the class you're in. So I think to say the Martelli races is the only one where the PR 100 is in its own class. Gotcha. Okay. And so they do they separate that because of the speed or anything or like because it looked like the Pro Turbo guys were going, well, pretty close to the same speed. And I have a follow up question for that. You know, I honestly have no idea what's putting us in different classes. I think it might be the engine size being a 2000. CC. I, I'll tell you, it's not any faster or quicker than my turbo vehicles were. But everything else about it is pretty, pretty revolutionary. As far as the suspension goes. The handling characteristics. Obviously, like I said, Skyler and I hadn't had any time in this car before we got to this race, so we didn't really know what to expect. But once we started racing it we were like, Wow, all right, this thing's pretty, pretty amazing. See what it could do out there. So yeah, totally not too sure what is separating? Yeah, and I totally and I didn't want to get like a pro our kick here. But I wanted to at least set a baseline of it. Because I know that you couldn't you could have pulled the same speed in your other car, right, and it's a two cylinder car. So Skyler give us your basic understanding of what the differences are between the two models, because I want to follow it up with something. Um, I mean, the only difference really is the CCS and if you talk to any of the guys that even have pro Rs, they'll tell you, I mean, the the turbo RS faster, that's they'll just come out and say that right away. I mean, topspeed, the pro arm? A little bed. But outside of that, I mean, they're pretty identical in in horsepower. Yeah. And so that was my first question was because I don't get heavier. And so that was my main question was basically understanding how it works. So I've never driven like a pro XP or a Turbo S or, or Turbo, or I've only driven the Pro are. And when we did a little pre run. It was really cool to see. And I had mentioned that I thought that one of the main things that was going to separate the vehicles out in the racers out on course was power because the track was sucking so much power out of the vehicles in some of those corners, some of the washes and just with the train, right. And so I thought the pro car was going to have a big advantage but then in qualifying, I can am qualified first. And so it was it was kind of crazy for me to eat my words right. But how did it feel during race day? I mean, I think the biggest thing that's coming down to is the power to weight ratio. These new Pro ARs are obviously heavier than all the other machines out there. I mean that engine Let's say there's heavier, that's got a front and rear differential, it's got a transmission, there's a lot more parts of these cars than, than all the other units out there. So I mean, to see the cannamd, go out there and put down the hottest qualifying lap. I mean, I know Bruce has got that thing turned up pretty good. So I knew that he's gonna be hard to beat in qualifying Any way you look at it. He's super fast at all the qualifiers that we do so. But you know, having that extra power in that vehicle, he struggles to keep that car together. And the race is I mean, I know he's trying to revolutionize that, that, that platform and do as much as he can, but at the end of every race, I mean, he's, you know, there's lots of issues he's having to work through. Whereas, I mean, we're running basically a stock vehicle, we're not doing any kind of, you know, adding a ton of power to him or anything. It's just we're just based on pretty stock with, you know, the cage, I mean, the axles the transmission, the differentials, all that stock on these, we're not having to do billet differentials, or anything that's really upgraded, like all these other companies are having to do for their machines. Yeah, I can agree with that. I'm sitting at img motorsports, you can see they're building a new car behind me. But yeah, like, I've always been a massive proponent of as stock as possible, right? Like, I feel like, that's what you TVs are here for, like is just an entry level class for us to get in the race. Otherwise, we could just build a trophy truck, right. And I still think, though, that there's advantages to doing stuff like Bruce as well, because he's pushing them pushing the envelope. And he's building and he's advancing things for the side by side market. So there's good and bad, right. All right. So let's, let's break it down and talk a little bit more about the race. Like, the preparation was good. You guys built a new car, and you started, you know, basically just getting everything ready. But when you showed up to the race, you hadn't really even gotten in that car, except for to put it on the off the trailer. Yeah, that was I think I got in the car for the first time on race day or on qualifying day. He showed up right before qualifying, he had to work. So Thursday morning, he drove out with my dad, they left at like 4am from Prescott. And they got there, I think like maybe 30 minutes before the qualifier was, and that was the first time scollard haven't even been in the car. And then the day before that I worked with Fox a little bit I worked with my buddy Vince and Fox. On Wednesday, I think that was the first day that I'd actually been in the car or the dirt or the car had actually been in the dirt. And honestly, all we did was play with the shocks a little bit on Wednesday. And I put the car away and qualified with it on Thursday. Didn't do anything to it after that kind of just checked everything after qualifying. And then Friday was the first day that we actually put it through its paces. And yeah, there was absolutely zero test time in that vehicle before we went to that race. It's pretty phenomenal that you guys have that it says a lot about your guys's prep and the build of the vehicle too, right? Because that makes sure that you're meticulous to be able to make sure that doesn't have issues. Give us some of your favorite parts of the car. So far the favorite fields of the car, because when I was driving, from an enthusiast standpoint, we'll call it you can reach speeds, high speeds very quickly and it handles good. But in stock form, it's pretty twitchy. Yeah, for sure, I mean, I like I guess being in it for the first time, you know, and a vehicle a naturally aspirated vehicle over the turbo vehicle is nice coming into corners, and having instant throttle response to adjust how the car is gonna feel on the corner or make it handled differently, whether you want to slide or drift or come into the corner hot or you know, you're able to if you get it up on the bicycle, you can kind of pull it out really quickly. You're not waiting for that turbo to school. Yeah. So that's, that's one of the biggest differences. I noticed I liked the weight of the car, because it seems like it really works good. And the big bumps the big oops, that's the next biggest thing was the the suspension on that Pro are is is phenomenal. I mean, we were able to hit the jumps in front of the grandstands there or in front of the arch there. And we were able to hit that and basically wide open throttle. The big whoops, there were some big whips out there. And we didn't really have to offer those the wheelbase, the suspension, travel, everything of that car, you know, kind of just absorbed all the big bumps that were out there. So you know, the little bumps the chatter stuff, the mountain ranges, I wasn't a huge fan of that I could have dealt without that. That was I'm I'm more of a fan of going fast to the desert. I don't really care for the tight technical stuff. I know there. There are people out there that like that stuff. But I like going fast in the desert. So it's hard to make, you know your suspension work really good and the the rocks or the embedded rocks and stuff like that, that this course had, as well as the big bumps. But I mean, the other big advantage I think that we have is we run that live valve technology on this new race car. And I'm constantly playing with the shocks I'm adjusting them throughout the entire race with the steering wheel adjustment, you've got the X button and then you got you know, ba mode comfort mode, and I'm constantly playing with that selection throughout the entire race. We should give Skyler a red button to so he could just hit it when he gets all sketched out because dude, I was going through some of those oops, like, I don't know by Barstow main and I wasn't even hitting the brakes. I would just hit the buttoned like a video game like over every one, so you'd hit it like Ken rocks and stylish straight rhythm just be on top of them. Bam, bam, bam. Yeah, that's one nice thing about that technology. I mean, a lot of people are scared of it. But I'm still I've been running it for like four years now. And I absolutely love it, then you couldn't talk me out of not running that live valve technology that we're running on this Fox shocks? Yeah. Also saving scholars back. Yeah, I got beat up pretty good on this race. I mean, I was pretty brutal. Yeah, there's not to say that the vehicle is, you know, is going to be smooth across everything. Because, believe me, sounds pretty beat up. But I think what we're doing is we're pushing these vehicles harder and faster across rougher terrain than we have been before. So I think the suspension is, you know, keeps advancing, but we're actually pushing these vehicles so much harder in places that we never used to push them down hard before. So we still are feeling it. We're just able to go faster. I totally agree with that. It's kind of you can chime in on this. But so I'll just make a little comment. I was talking with James Hill from img today about it. And he kind of agreed I was talking about a Y, Z compared to the Pro are so there's it's like apples and oranges, right. But so that's what I was used to driving and going through the desert, like even at Laughlin, it's gnarly. And that's a graded course, basically, right? And then so the difference in speed from the pro R and the Y, Z was probably a good 25 to 30% faster. And then so like to put it in perspective, like even let's just say a stock, XP 1000. Like the the pace that everybody is going now is so much faster than what it used to be right. And I know you said that like that your other car is really fast compared to the Pro are as well. But like still, that speed means that you have to do a lot of things, it means you have to prep the car better, it means that you have to have bigger tires, it means that you have to be more physically fit. It means that you have to have better hydration, there's all of these things that detail and come along with it. So what do you guys usually do during the races to make sure that all that stuff is keeping up with the pace? And to say one thing that this is just like big going from a razor to a trophy truck? Yeah. Whereas their you know, their suspension is so much better than ours, but they're going so much faster. So it gets so much rougher. And that's kind of where we're at now from the the turbo class to the Pro are and just how fast the pace is going is that it might be a little faster, but it's still as rough if not rougher, because we're pushing it so hard. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. So what kind of stuff? Do you guys do this different than we'll get into talking about the race. I don't think we do much different. I mean, on this race, I didn't even get a drink. Or I didn't even get a chance to take a sip of water except for my one pit. It was just absolutely brutal enough where I had my hands on the steering wheel the entire time. So when you're talking about hydration, as much as I wanted to drink out of my camera back in the car, I was not able to take my hand off the steering wheel long enough to actually reach over there and grab that. So I'm gonna think about maybe, you know, advancing to having the squirt system where squirted in your mouth from your helmet. The flu might be something I'm an app. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what else to do. I mean, the way the mortality set this race up is you know, it's cool that you're actually you don't have to go through pit road and drop down to 25 mile an hour, if you don't want to. Lots of times in the races, whether it be best in desert score. A lot of time when we go through a pit area or a highway paved section, that's where I hydrate, I drink, you know, whatever fluids, eat some jerky or something. This race, I didn't really have that opportunity. I mean, I pulled into the pits and took my girl my girlfriend hand me a drink of water and tried to me some food and I think I got a a tiny bit of food in my stomach. And then we were filling up with fuel and then we we left so that was my one chance to get any kind of hydration or any kind of food in my stomach. Yeah, that's so gnarly. But you should have just gave me a radio for the team because there was all kinds of people just going straight through the main pit and going 30 miles an hour and cutting off a whole bunch of the race course and still making passes. So you could have just cruise right through there. Like it was so funny to see that man because everybody was doing it. I was like, What the fuck is everybody doing here? Like? Yeah, yeah, come to find out. That was the quicker route but it didn't look as cool. The I went through the outside of pitch and there's some big lumps there and at least it looks cool going through those big ones. Even if we lost time. It looked cool. It looked Michonne and you follow the rules. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so Alright, so give us a little bit of a rundown for the race. Like what position you started in and you had to chase Michi all day. Yeah, so obviously, we qualified third overall second in class and Bruce obviously didn't race. So Michi was first off the line and his row. And then we were second row started next to one of the Honda teams actually and start. Yeah, it was Oh, yeah. So yeah, we got him on the start, I think, you know, because we have that, that naturally aspirated power we as soon as I accelerated from the start, we had him and then I didn't slow down for the lift or the jump or anything. So we were able to kind of put some time on there. And then from that point on, we didn't really see anything behind us ever approach us. I think on the first lap, maybe around race mile 15, I think we were quite close to Michi, within probably a couple 100 yards. Yeah, I knew Michi wasn't going to push really hard on the first lap, but I was going to because I knew that, you know, they were given us a two minute split. And if I can just run on his dust or running his lights, or at least see his car, that we'd have him on time. So basically, you know, I just, you know, Skylar, and I just kind of got on his bumper, you know, a couple 100 yards behind him and kind of pace them. I never got to a position where that we were going to be able to make a pass. I know Mitch, he was kind of just pacing us, we were pacing him and it was a fast pace, there's no doubt. The second lap, I think that's when we started catching lab traffic, which was quite frustrating, which we ran into at the minute as well, I don't know how we're gonna fix this issue. But we were catching I mean, class 11 bugs in the first couple of miles on the second lap. And it's frustrating, because the first part of that course was tight and technical. And a lot of the vehicles couldn't get out of the way quick enough, even even though we caught them. I mean, if you're in a canyon, they can't get out of the way. So I mean, there's only so much you can do. And I get frustrated quite quickly, just watching, you know, I was watching Michi, pull away from us at that point, lots of times, it's you get an advantage. And he could have got behind somebody that didn't move, and we could have caught him or vice versa, where he was actually getting in front of people quickly, or quicker than we were or having a better spot to pass them. And we were kind of stuck, you know, in traffic. I agree with that wholeheartedly should be dealt with, we can talk to Martelly a little bit about it. He's gonna come on the show a little bit later today, too. But I think that's a very good point to bring up. And I was actually talking again to James at img about it, that I think a couple small things that could be done for a race like this is to have the land rush starts because that's pitching and then to and then to have it so that there's just UTVs on course, because it evens it out a little bit. Right. And I don't mean that as a good or bad thing about any of the drivers, any of the vehicles, anything, it just makes a little bit more sense, right? Because it takes some of those situations like what you're talking about out of the equation. I mean, you could still get occasionally caught by another, or excuse me, blocked by another UTV or something. But it's a little different when that happens, right? Yeah, definitely. I mean, the our class, even that PR 100 class is so fast now. I mean, the lap times we were putting down and the times that we're putting down or just you know, it's a safety thing. You know, when we're getting out there, we're catching the Sportsman's class. And the the other classes, I really did like the two minutes start gap because with how dusty it was, and there was really no wind when we were racing. The the, it was nice to have the two minute gap that way, we could actually have a little bit of clean air, you know? So I mean, yeah, it's just tough. I know, being a promoter, it's tough to do, you know, to appease everyone, it's not going to be possible. I'm just looking at it from you know, more of a racer standpoint, because I get frustrated behind people. And the last thing I want to do is wait for them to move out of the way and I know there's people on the course that are you know, this may be their first race and they may not know exactly what to do when they're caught. And for the most part, you know, I didn't have to force move anybody. I didn't have to bump anybody. But there was lots of times where I was getting frustrated enough, you know, and, you know, it's just hard. I mean, I couldn't imagine trying to be the promoter and trying to make everybody happy. It's going to be impossible. But looking at it from and it's unfortunate. So Mitch Mitch senior just said landrush is not good. Dude, I love them because I'm moto guy. So they're Yeah, cuz being a spectator. They're great to watch but you know, you can wreck a lot of stuff real quick. Yeah, I love them just because I was moto guy. And I think it adds a little bit more to the to the effect of the racing but I agree with some people will say it's bad. But yeah, so not talking about like the those types of things anymore, like you had michy out front. Obviously, you're trying to close the gap a little bit and then you have Sierra Romo who's gonna come on the show and just a little bit behind you as well. So you guys are turning some really fast lap times and you can't make any mistakes. These days. It's gnarly. Schuyler. So how were you guys approaching everything? Oh, Brandon just was on the gas. I mean, there was definitely times where I could tell he was pushing it faster than he's ever pushed it and there's, it's it was just it was a brutal course. A brand just good driver in general. So he's really the only one I trust driving with. Well, so when you say something like that, like to me Being an well, we'll call it a washed up racer. But like understanding the skill set that Brandon has, when you say he's pushing it harder than he ever has give us a little bit of a detail behind that. And I like to hear from Brandon too, because that means that you're so in tune with what he's doing behind the wheel, he's sitting in the passenger seat there or the CO driver seat, that your understanding how he's managing the throttle, the brakes, the steering wheel, how he's pushing through bumps and corners. So give us a little bit of detail behind what you mean there. Yeah, and I think so a lot of it is just going faster over rougher terrain, and pushing it harder through things that might might cause more damage to the vehicle or give you a higher risk of breaking something. And normally, he's he's pretty conservative rugs just to clean fast pace. And this race was just a just a class race. And if something happened, it happened. There was no there wasn't enough time in the race in general, because it was such a short race to run a slow pace. So I know I can just see it when when we're going through stuff when he's coming into corners faster. Breaking at corners. Watch Later. Yeah. And then And then really relying on me to call corners and, and call anything that's, that's ahead of us. Yeah, I can see that too. And well, just as a fun fact, seeing from the outside, being out, not in the vehicle, obviously. And watching you guys come through the certain sections that we were watching. I have to tell you, Brandon, you were much smoother than 90% of the racers out there. And the way that it looked from the outside was that you guys had better lines that you had better selection of where you would put the car in the corners turning in braking late and all that stuff. So still, kudos to you for driving that smooth, but how did it feel behind the wheel? You know, kind of like what I was explaining before we're hitting stuff bigger, faster, deeper, and pushing it so much harder. So I mean, I felt way more comfortable behind the wheel of this vehicle than I had been behind any of my other ones. I think the wheelbase really helps. The suspension travel allows a lot of forgiveness. I mean, having that much suspension travel, you can you can it makes up for a lot of oshit moments when you're trying to look at it and you're like Oh man, it's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad, you know, like a GE out or a bigger one than you're expecting. We didn't get in this car just absolutely. Yeah, we didn't bought them out at all, which is crazy. I don't know how but that's wild on that rough on the track to even understand that you didn't buy them once. It's just like that's mind blowing. Yeah, thanks, Vince. What was your guys What was your favorite part of the race and then we can thank everybody and good Sierra and all the Romo motorsports guys on I liked the second part of the race I didn't really care for the first half of the course I liked the second part of the course it was faster bigger woods, more lines I like having the option to pass people other than just following them and in forcibly making a move I like that the second part of the course had options to choose different lines. It was faster I like going 90 through the desert I just do I don't really care for going 10 to 80 miles an hour up to the mountains so in our bone stock Pro are that the last wash section right before that you kind of like did that little like I don't know flowy section of to track and then you fell into that last wash? We got up in the bone stock Pro are 282 So you guys were pushing 93 there Yeah, I think we're doing 9394 through there. Skyler That is freaking wild dude. How's it feel going in the passenger seat? Are you just like making sure you call the notes because they're coming up quick? Yeah, um, I'm not really looking up at that point. I just, I just looked down at the GPS you know, that's a, that's a big thing that Skylar's had to adapt to is, you know, we're traveling faster, everything's coming up quicker. So he has to adapt to all that, you know, so there's a big difference having a navigator that can actually recognize the speed that you're traveling, and how the corners change, you know, a corner, I you know, we do a number system one through five as our numbering system for cornering, and a three at 90 miles an hour a significantly different than a three at 40 miles an hour. So the big difference that Skylar has been able to do is recognize the difference between you know, the speed that we're traveling and adapting to that and making it work for us. So that's a huge advantage. I think we have you know, we have a good relationship in the vehicle we don't ever get into any kind of arguments and you know, if I blow corner, it's usually my fault. He's called it and I just spaced out, you know, focused on what's in front of me not litter or not listening to what he's saying. So he's pretty spot on and you know, we do good as well or we work well as a team in that vehicle. So, you know, I've got a lot to you know, kudos for, for Skylar to be able to do that. and to trust me, you know, because I obviously don't want to hurt myself. So he knows that too. So we didn't really have any moments in this race where we felt out of control. I mean, we had one time where we went to the whoops. And I was like, I made a or something, you know, probably but it was, it was fun. You know, we we do well on that new car together and looking forward to doing some more, dude, it's so crazy to think like and yeah, man, I think it's so cool to see the progression no matter what it is. I'm going to try to see if we can get Sierra and the row motorsports guys on as well talk to them about it. Could you hear back there was hardly any exhaust. I think the muffler fell off. No, I never saw that. Yeah. Could you imagine how blown out your ears would be? Holy cow. I would have said still ringing. Yeah, get me out of this thing. So yeah, give a give a shout out to the people that helped. Yeah, obviously, Polaris razor with that new Pro AR platform. I was skeptical at first and now I wish I would have gotten it finished quicker. That new vehicle is just amazing. So yeah, that was super fun to be a part of having you know, that Pro are out there. Cancer tire. I mean, we had fantastic luck with that rocky course method, race wheels, shock therapy with the tuning that they do for us and the accessories that we have from them. You know, I've gotten some new tolling bars from them on this, this race vehicle and they were fantastic. Fox shocks, Lonestar racing. So you know, everybody kind of comes together and makes this program work. And we've got a pretty pretty dialed in. I mean, it's our third race and our third podium in a row so and we go to all the big ones. So I mean, when we're claiming a podium, that's, you know, Baja, 500 Baja, or Baja 500. Vegas, Reno and now this race, so you know what the competition's getting so stay within it's wild out there. You know, the competition is just insane. Isn't it is pretty insane. We got one of your competitors on so. Good job, boys. We got about three of them on over there. Yeah, there's a bunch of people in there as well. Good job, boys. You guys. Really? You guys really kicked ass this weekend. It was awesome to see you guys doing so well, obviously in the new car and having so much fun out there to keep driving smooth. Yep. Thanks, guys. See us at the next one. All right. All right. So it's taken up the whole screen. We got Randy Romo, West Lafleur. And obviously, CRO ma Hi, how are you guys? Are Good, good. How are you? We're doing awesome. So Wes, you're probably just gonna have to just like lean on Sierra's shoulder kind of like you did all race when your seat broke. Literally at like what mile marker like 2020. Please tell everybody that story real quick. So first of all, the course was just gnarly, straight gnarly, awesome for desert racing being that gnarly. But you guys had a little incident inside of the car. Oh, yeah, there was a few. So we started the race. Everything was good. And then around mile marker 19 He started bouncing on a seat. I'm like, What are you doing over there and he's like, the bolt came out of my seat like the seats broken. Something's going on. And I'm like, nothing we can do. I'm not gonna pull over and like fix your seat for you. So he he radioed to my dad let him know that our seat base was broken. And my dad's like, it's all good. Like just right like that. And it is what it is. So we did and it was core head was like hitting our fire extinguisher because our fire extinguishers right in the middle of our heads. And he's like leaning on me and like bouncing off of our fire extinguisher the whole entire race, dude. So basically 260 something miles of just bouncing around in the seat like and if anybody like it has not seen how gnarly it is in Barstow please go out there and try to bounce around with a loose seatbelt because it will burn you out in about 10 seconds and WestEd it for four and a five hours. Yeah, it was pretty gnarly. That wasn't the first issue we had. So like mile six, a window net pop dump and then we had to fix that real quick. So we had to kind of come to a complete stop and everything was good, but I was trying to check all the bolts with my hand while I we were going and I didn't really tell her for about a mile and then I'm like my seats broken. And it is that point. Hey, let me talk to the prep guy real quick. Well, I did have the seat out the night before Yeah, that was all. Hey, so you can't talk to nobody. You know that's true. I don't like to stand out. I was all him. We already got a bunch of comments coming in saying Romo's are the best and High Sierra and obviously Randy and Wes. So let's backtrack a little bit real quick here so we can talk about what happened first and the weekend is your dad just went out there and spanked everybody even Rodney Anderson was mad at you Randy. Um, yeah, it's kind of hurt some feelings to hear you got beat by grandpa. So Oh man. So how was the short course race because it was a eight mile loop obviously still gnarly as heck. But you had a, I don't want to call it a fully built race car. So it was kind of in between like a play car race car, and you just went out there and whip some but yeah, this is a really awesome a showing for the brand new turbo ours. Their platform was great. I think I had maybe eight miles on it. Going into the race, just a little bit of test time with Fox and the shocks. Put a cage next doors, from bumper, rear bumper and a couple bolts on items exhaust and stuff like that. And this car could not have done any better. I mean it it literally took everything flawless. I was kind of being a little cautious. First couple laps because it was so Rocky and I was afraid to get in a flat tire. And all during the race, I could hear them. You're up two seconds, you're down. 20 seconds, you're up 10 seconds you down 30 seconds and frickin Ronnie man, he's an animal, he was just both of us were just on pace, and we couldn't let up. So it's one of those things, you just hold it wooded. Otherwise the other guy's gonna win. I heard he got a flat on the second to last lap. And in my mind. Instead of backing off, I actually turned it up. Because I'm like, Look, I know wrong, turning it up. I know, Ronnie, and he's gonna drive like a madman. And he did exactly that. He said he just threw everything out the window and went full bore. And if I didn't do that, I would have lost. I think we won by like 1.6 seconds or something. So it was actually I always seen speeds on that thing, like 9798 miles an hour going on that long straightaway. The one that we did have. And good guy could have asked for anything. But how did it feel to you because going that fast, and the side by side still blows me away? Did it scary. I was actually feathering it because it wanted to go faster. And I'm like, I don't feel comfortable. You're like if we get into three digits, something like some might happen we might get. Yeah, especially at those speeds. You start to wonder like, did I tighten that one bolt? Yeah, it gets a little sketchy. Like Brandon was saying, Go ahead. Good. I was gonna say I was saying like, cuz I'm like, if it gets too twitchy, you're like, Oh, crap, dude. Oh, crap. Oh, crap. Oh, yeah, I really liked the turbo cars, I still think they're a little faster on the top end are really close to the Pro are so I'm gonna stay in trouble class for next year. And build me a brand new turbo car for the desert. So I'll let her play in the pro are in the turbo car platform and see what happens. Big turbo guy over here. Yeah, it's a challenge. Trust me. I actually think that's cool, though. Because then you're given the opportunity to to see both vehicles from you know, all in the same shop. Yes. Yeah. I mean, we've always raced against each other. So it was a little bit different kind of going into different classes. But it's been cool, because now now we don't have to race against each other. Now we don't have those awkward family dinners about who beat who so it works out. Over who's got. Yeah, you got to start like gauging lap times and stuff. And that plus, that can't be awkward. That helps everybody go faster, man. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's, uh, let's talk about like how you felt out there, Randy with the actual race course because I want to give everybody an understanding of it. We talked about maybe a couple things that could have been done better, I would still like to see the landrush start. I'm gonna stick to my guns. But I honestly thought that the course was cool. When we pre ran it on Wednesday, not the same course. It was clearly rougher for you guys. But we pre ran on Wednesday. It was awesome. Like I loved it. That course Believe it or not, is what we have in our backyard. You go out our gate and you go about two minutes up the road. And we have Barstow in our backyard. Trust me, it's the same course. And so for us I felt at home felt comfortable. You know what the biggest challenge for me was at the start of the race going around Barstow main mountain right there. We were coming into the sun and the sun was right there. I mean, even with sunglasses on, in my hand holding it, I couldn't even see. And then sorry, lap two we already lap traffic and with all the dust. It was horrible. Like if you can't stop, you can't go down. We're still probably going 4050 miles an hour to the dust wind. But you want to talk about a challenge. That was a challenge. And then down towards the bottom there are some silt beds and starting lap two, three and four. We really started getting into lab traffic's and I apologize to any of the the People have passed up because it was I couldn't wait. So I was getting sketchy kind of passing them in the bushes and I all I seen was bushes flying every direction. Racing though, so the Polaris Ranger tree trimmer. Oh, sorry, BLM because I know there's some trees missing the finish line. I'm like, Were you even on the chat? No more. Yeah, real real quick, Randy. While we're still going through your race here at Greg Kelly just commented in saying how nice it was to meet you. So it's cool to see that you have such an impact on the youth. Oh, that's so awesome. I finally got to meet her. I think she's based out of Las Vegas. Yep. Oh, yeah. Have her come over to the shop. Maybe take her throw our I think that'd be Ooh, that would be kind of cool, right. I don't know if she'd be able to see over the steering wheel. You might have to get her a couple pads. Like butt pads? Yeah, maybe a few phone books, but we'll make it work. For cool. Make sure the seats bolted tight. Yeah, well, we'll put the bolt back in the seat for her. So her head doesn't bounce around like West says, I can't really see Wes on camera. But I can just hear the jokes man jokes coming in left and right over here. I'll slide in in a minute. Or two. And I told Matt and I told him Killian, I went up to him personally each and I just told him a big thank you for how they laid the course out. Yep, it was fun course technical, you know, you had to be patient. But what I really liked on the desert course, was they put a bunch of ECPs and that really kept it legit for the racers, there's, there's lines you can choose from, but there's not mountain ranges, you can go bypass. So for me, it was huge respect for them. And, and hopefully it gets a bigger following next year. And I really respect that, you know, just let's make it where we all race on the same course. And if you beat me, then you're a better faster guy that day. Yeah, but I don't want to worry about you know, bypassing mountains of why went to the VCP Well, I mean, that's, you know, we'll leave that for a different book. The course was laid out really good and I really appreciated that. Yeah. The driving Yes, we can all appreciate Yeah, let's make it about the race and we all race on the same track and you know, we'll see who the two Yeah, exactly. Well, actually, we got a we had another comment come in talking about co2, Desi Dela Cruz says she can't wait to meet you. You're doing such an amazing job. It had more details in there. But thank you Desi for commenting in the offer community. Just like what Randy was saying. Giving feedback, being honest with each other having all the camaraderie. It's none like none other man. It's super cool to see. So, Randy, congratulations, Ronnie kept you on your toes the whole time. To be honest with you. I'm surprised that both of you guys didn't fucking wadded up because you guys are going fast. Dude. It was crazy to see I was like Jesus, how the heck is he keeping it like this on edge the whole time? Yeah, a couple times on that last lap because I knew he was coming. Then I'm like, don't throw it away. Don't throw it away. What were you doing Ciara watching? Oh, my gosh, I was getting text messages while he was reading. And people are like, your dad is actually fast. I'm like, I know, try racing against the guy like, you think, Oh, here's this. You know, there's this dad. He can't be that fast. But he's working fast. And I think he kind of he showed that this weekend. Actually, that's a question to ask you, Randy. So since you and I are the old guys in racing now. And I my vision is not what it used to be. Oh, excuse me going neat. Going these speeds going these speeds in these new cars that can go so fast. Do you have to adjust your vision to look further away, like maybe look like another 100 yards or 100 feet out to be able to keep up with the speeds you're gone. You know, I've been very fortunate knock on wood. I still have 2020 vision. My eyes are very good. And I attribute desert racing and the success that we've had to really having good eyesight and being able to see, it's like when we go to the sand dunes for big sand dunes. That's where we come from. I'm always looking three, four or five dunes ahead of me. Yep. And I do the same thing in desert. I'm always looking immediate and then scanning everything else to start seeing lines and corners and what's coming up and stuff. And I think you have to have really good eyes and really good hand eye coordination. And fortunately, I've been been able to have that skill. So yeah, and obviously teach Sierra too. We had a couple of comments come in Burton, Brock says How long have you been racing Randy? I started when did I think in like 2014 ish if teams summer so not a long time to man up through the ranks Quick Man just making moves. He started works and we worked our way to the desert and this year I tell you what, I'm super proud of us and the team and last and the whole crew that helps us get to these uh spots but this year has been a pretty banner year for us. We started out with me taking second place in the Pro Turbo overall at the 100. Then we did a couple statewide races we took first in one second and the other car did the 636 mile race with legacy and third net one. First of all, that's a long race man. Yeah, and then Vegas Torino is right after that. And then she took third in the desert so I think this has been a pretty banner year and I'm super proud of all the teams that you know this up was good here. Hey, dude, us you're just being too humble man. You guys are just straight badass says man keep kicking. So shock therapy, commented and beaten Ronnie is no small joke. So great job, Randy. Matt Martelly commented and we're going to talk to him later. He said Never underestimate old age and Treasury Romo killed a which he did. Yeah, absolutely. And let's see. Yeah, just hammered down, says Russell. 40 foot and then. Oh, yeah. So he was stoked on your answer. Brock was for, you know, when you started racing and stuff. Alright, so we're gonna talk with the kids a little bit. Randy, is there anything else or anybody you want to thank before you dip out and then we can get Weston's pretty face on here? Oh, yeah. Biggest one of course, players razor, the factory racing. The stuff that they've been able to give us and help us out with this year. There's there's no way we could have been here without the help and support from them. Toyo Tires, we went this whole race for me zero flats. That's huge and race like this and it actually goes to show you on my short horse race. We didn't handle flat right. So that gave us a little bit of an edge right there So big shout out to them. Baja designs talk shocks was a huge help in this race with without boxes. I don't think my kidneys would have held it either. So this suspension was so crucial this race like so crude. was cheaper copper off road proline wraps up race fuels. VP is a big supporter of ours thank you to them Lone Star for building the cars that they do. It's hard to keep up with it shock therapies to be hostile clean anti gravity crosswords word speed strap, AGM dynajet Page town for other other help they've been doing this lately. There's a squadron Maglock like there's a list of people that help us out and can't forget about mama mom she's the rock of life is Tina let me do this. You know? What's your favorite snack that she puts in the cooler when you guys are going out to the track? Oh, there's only one it's uncrustables Scott off road is uncrustables freaking biggest fan did here we go. Let's see your PitStop Pro actually said God roosted pretty good by you Randy after that competition stop in the in the valley that I saw. cited was good us thought was a good line. Congrats. So I can only imagine what like there's probably I don't know. 40 other racers that were like yeah, thanks Randy for Russa me. I like I said, I apologize because there were some I just didn't have time to wait. And I was literally just flying to the bushes and just hoping there was nothing there. So I almost took out a cameraman. So if you're serious, I'm not filming anywhere close to you, bro. I had to go walk around the dust and this camera man's looking at camera and all of a sudden he looks up and he's like, Oh, I see. Randy takes out a $5,000 cannon or something dude. Sorry guys, to put it past him. But congratulations, man. It's no small feat to be able to obviously beat Rodney Anderson, but to beat all the other competition as well because there was some serious competition out there. And going that fast and a side by side really takes a lot of skill people that think it doesn't please go out there and try to do it because it's gnarly. Alright, Thanks, Randy. Let's get West's pretty face in here. We'll see you last few days. Yeah, sounds good. All right. Thanks for being media girls here and helping us out here. All right. So give us a little bit of a rundown on the race like where you guys qualified. We'll start talking about before the seatbelt. The seatbelt broke. Yeah, so we started off. We qualified for was it like a one second off of Wayne Matlock. So now just just outside the top, but yeah, the the guys in that class are super fast. And so to be fair in Prop 40, that was a huge accomplishment for us. And that put us in a really, really in for the race. So I was I know Wes was to Mitch Guthrie. Fine by himself was one and then it was in Elliott watts. Deny so your third row off. It was a really good starting position for us. Hey, lean forward a little bit because the audio is going in and out. But Yeah, so like, did you have expectations for it beforehand? Because fourth place is no slouch like it and especially in qualifying, like, it's so easy to miss it by just a second, right like, so it's it's gnarly to get that type of qualifying position. Did you guys already have a strategy? Like we're gonna go out and just hammer down in qualifying? Because we want to start in the front? Or what was it? I think I think it's always like that in qualifying, you always tell yourself do you want to keep the car together, whatever. But in the back of our minds, we know that we have like 24 hours sometimes before we have to raise so we can fix what we need to and we know that everybody else is going to go to the wall. We our wall might be a little bit different than others. I always tell everybody, it's really nice because my driver isn't home full of testosterone. So like, it's pretty smooth, like, but we push really hard. But the car was working so well. It's it's not lack of aggression, though. I get what you're saying. But still there. I know for sure there's there's that aggression there. But it's like it's like a calm aggression. I guess you could say like, if we were reversed, like we probably would have hit a bunch of things and broke a bunch of things. Yeah, sure. So that's a really good thing. But the car like I don't know, it's really hard to explain. I heard Sims and Skylar talking about it, but it's really hard to explain like how we'll suspension wise, new cars, and our car is really dialed i was at a lot. And again, bone stock Pro are Thank you very much, Sierra. We truck took it during the pre run course. And like, I was still amazed. Like I told Ryan Edwards who's gonna join us in a little bit here. I was like, this car is like cheat and dude, like it really is because it's so gnarly. Like, it's it's literally like, I don't even know how to explain it like the way it pulls the way it handles the way that it can cruise through bumps. Like, I never once really had to slow down. Like if I didn't want to hit the brakes, we didn't have to. Yeah, and I think that I pretty much call it my little mini Trophy Truck. Because it's it doesn't compare to anything else. And like my dad and I were comparing the turbo are in his race to my pro war. And I think he saw a bit more of like a top speed than I did. But the suspension is just, it's untouchable. I don't think anything compares to it. So I think that's our biggest advantage when it comes to the pro or Yeah, I think it has the weight of the vehicle the way that it's set up. And then the wheelbase is just the golden spot. So I think we're hitting both the big bumps twice as fast as we would normally hit them. But you the turbo has always had that super acceleration when that boost kicks in. So you get it doesn't have that. But I would say the acceleration from 60 to maxed out is super fast. You guys would stay in the race mode button because it's too squirrely when I like it's so gnarly. That's so much it's like a two stroke to fit the power. It's like, like massive power band. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I don't think we've tried any other modes besides the race mode. So we're racing Yeah, the chill mode is more my style now being washed up we go we go slow. So let's go through the race a little bit since we're talking about strategy here. So you start in the top top group of drivers do you say we're gonna go hard like what Brandon was saying like on the first couple laps you kind of chill out like how are you planning out the race before it goes? No, my biggest thing was after pre running the course I thought I was gonna run more of a conservative pace and kind of keep the car together and I thought that's what all the other guys and girls were gonna do. I thought you know, that was just our game plan. But right off the start you know my biggest thing was catching Elliot or Sims is dust and so I was pushing hard and I wasn't catching any dust so I was like okay, well I guess we're just gonna go hard from the start and so I was pushing super super hard from start to finish there was no conservative pace this race Yeah, I mean, I finally started to catch Elliott's does towards the middle to end the first lap. And he pulled into the pits I got around him from from there. I couldn't really catch sims or Guthrie so I knew that they were running really really fast pace and so I knew I had to to and we did from start to finish there was there was not even a break like you couldn't get some water you couldn't relax for a second like it was that's super wild too because the lap times were right around two hours so yeah not see anybody basically for two hours and be like Dude, where are these guys because I'm pushing it like that's got to be like an emotional roller coaster in your head for that like I don't know an hour at least. Oh yeah for sure. Because I was like you know running the pace that we were running we were pushing the heart the car pretty hard. And I'm like I'm not catching these guys as does so we just kept harder and harder and I'm like I have to run this pace for the next four laps like I don't think my body can handle this but we just what's the direction that you guys go west then when you see that so it was kind of weird so like she said, you know we we cut ELLIOT I don't know if he's on issue or whatever he was in the pit we get around him and then We did start catching dust what the problem was, is it was the people who started after us, we, there was a lot of, you know, vehicles that were getting stuck up on the some of those hill climbs and things like that. So there's a little obstacles we had to get around. But we just, I think we just put our head down and we just go, we do our own thing. We've always done that we've always done our own thing. And, you know, we both will fade a little bit all sometimes I'll fade out a little bit, sometimes she'll fade out a little bit, and we kind of just, you know, snap back in it and just get going. And I, you know, towards the end of the race, I think the last 50 miles, I mean, we did 100 or 200 miles with no hearing, basically, I was wondering my throat because I'm like, I'm not getting dust in my home, I'm checking, but it was because I'm screaming because of a cough stuff. And, you know, we just put our head down. And I know when Sierra's focused is when she doesn't talk when Sierra is quiet. He doesn't talk. I know she's listening to everything I'm saying. And you can tell by the movement are and everything and it just clicks. And it doesn't happen the entire race. I don't think anybody that race is good. Or clicks entire race. You get church people you do but we just clicked and we man we never down Especially that last 50 miles we were hammering, we were gonna be like maybe the guys that don't get phased or like the Iceman like Miss Guthrie and Brandon Sims just full ice the whole time just grinding. So desert squadron said, yeah, it's a non Payne's playing race. So it doesn't matter what you do. They're just gonna go balls to the wall. So I mean, that is a true statement. But that's actually kind of a cool thing to understand. Right? And to go back on what you were saying, Wes, you guys also had a mechanical issue and lost a muffler. So that thing was just loud the whole time. Like, I still can't believe that you guys can even hear me right now. So I'll tell you the whole story. We're going and I knew exactly what it was. But I didn't know if it was gonna be off the headers or what? I immediately jump out and it's gone. But I knew it was only probably 50 yards behind. So I'm thinking there's still a clamp there. And in my head, I'm like, I'm just gonna go grab this thing. Does that fit on? And go, like over and she's like, I can't hear you. So I go ahead and yell in the window. She's like, forget about it. Get in the car. And I'm like, I look at her like, are you? Are you serious? Like, what? So I like a battered kid. I climb back in the car, buckle up, and we just take off Elliott barely got in front of us. And we're immediately in his dust. Deafening, at least on my side. Seriously, hear you guys probably 6.9 miles away. It was so bad. Like, we're driving and all of a sudden, the car just got super, super loud. And we know it was exhaust, but I didn't know if it was like hanging off the car or anything. So he gets off. And he like comes back. And he's like, it's exhausted. I'm like, yeah, no, but just just tear it off. And he's like, Oh, it's gone. I'm gonna go get it. You're not gonna go get it? And he's like, I was like, why are you gonna get it? And he's like, I'm gonna go bolt it back on and we're like, screaming at each other. I'm like, get back in the car. He's like, No, I'm gonna go get the exhaust. I'm like, Get in the car now. Like, we don't have time for that. I already knew it was going to be like, so I knew that we were 70 miles into a 300 mile race. No sympathy with your ears or your brain from Sierra. Hey, so it looks like one of the guys from Pro Eagle. Probably Chuck comments and him saying that. He thought you were like you went so hard into those last couple of jumps that he was thinking maybe you were going to nosedive it in but you saved it. Like, I saw a few people go full wood and one of those was you. Oh, yeah. Especially at the finish line. I know I had those two jumps coming in. And I had third overall locked up. So I'm like, we're gonna send it and we're gonna give the crowd like a show. And I was like, so we sent it and all of a sudden, like, Oh, this is gonna be bad. And so I just bought it. You just see a pink and green rocket ship going to the moon. Yeah, literally. I'm like, Alright, audio scan. Pull the Randy Ramon hit the guy waving the checkered flag. You guys are off for the freakin track crew. Lucretia Bray also said she's the same that you guys killed it. Matt Martelli said God. Clearly you can have a signature exhaust now. So whoever's looking for marketing, please contact Sierra Roma West Leffler. Alexia said, she lost her exhaust, too, so she feels your pain. But yeah, so what was your guys's favorite portions of the track? I mean, if you had a nice sounding car, what would you have enjoyed the most? I think my favorite section was about 10 miles before you get the slash x. You're real tight and technical. But then it starts opening up a little bit and actually gets into some really big bumps and the car was just working so good. And then as you come down the hill before you get the slash x at like two miles straight away, there's four lines. So it didn't matter if somebody was in front of us, we're catching lap traffic or whatever. We went straight to our line which variable use our line every every lap and it was and we pinned it for two miles, come into that left hand long sweet corner that just basically did a 180 and passed. All right. It crew waving at us and it just pumps you up, you know and get you going again. I think that was probably my favorite. Sierra, did you kind of get like you were just leaning on the outside berm in that corner? Oh, yeah. I mean, we I was paying and we were coming into a corner and right there, we actually had to make a pass on somebody. So I cut like, part inside and our guy went like art outside. We're like leaning on each other. And I'm like, please don't catch her up. Please don't catch her. Right. And like we were pained. And like everybody in the pits would go to the course worker was stoked. My whole pit crew was sitting there like cheering me on and so all right, but you were also stoked to because of the left hander. So West got off your shoulder and fell to the outside of the car. I was stoked because I wasn't hitting my head on fire extinguisher. Boosters all they said. Did you guys ever play that game when you were little in the backseat of the car where you don't like you just sit there and you just lean on the friend in the backseat of the car? That was him playing? Yeah. On your side of the car. People don't understand this. When you're strapped in you. You do whatever the seat does you you don't have an option. So if the seats leaning, you're going like there's no there's nothing back. You know, sit up and lift your hip. Yeah, and we've never run like, I don't run foot braces. I don't run like a handle that I hold on to in the car. I'm super comfortable to sitting there and doing my job. You don't run a footprint gas pedal. like, Man, I wish I had a handle. I wish I had something to hold on to you don't run a footprint gas pedal? Yeah, no. Don't run any. Oh, man, I think you guys had a good time out there. What was your favorite portion of the tracks here? I can kind of tell that it was probably out there in that same area where it got like nice and flowy where you were kind of just like hitting those routes and like going through some of that fast stuff. Yeah, I definitely have to say the same part that was said it was like constant drawing for 50 miles straight. So we come into that little section and opens up to all these different lines. So you know the few times that we were catching somebody, or we did have just it gave us an opportunity to pass somebody, which was cool. And then of course with my car being so loud, it sounded pretty cool. I have to admit to be wide open for just miles straight. But yeah, the car handled the whoops, incredibly. So for it to just fold over all that section was was pretty cool. So there was a couple of times when we were in the main pit area. And we were thinking like, you know, like if you have like radio communication, and you can't like hear anybody on the radio, because they're too far out. You didn't have that because we can hear you. Like my picker could hear me for miles and miles. Well, I was screaming. The whole time. I'm screaming notes for hours and hours. And then it wasn't till after the race that the pit crew was making fun of me. Nolan Williams came and helped us out and he was making fun of me and making everybody laugh because I would call out stuff on the radio, but I was screaming at them also. So they're they're like holding the radio way far away. Because Wes is screaming at him like crazy. And I'm like, in my head. I'm like, I got a scream because they can't hear me when really I could just talk normal and west. Stop yelling. Yeah, absolutely. You're I think we were screaming at everybody. And like we didn't know we couldn't hear each other. So we get out and everyone's talking to us and like why are you screaming? And I'm like, Oh, so it's like when people have the headphones on. And like the music really loud. Martelli just chimed in and said, we thought it was a trophy truck. We did too. Oh, that's wild. All right, so your dad just chimed in and said uncrustables what's your favorite snack that your mom packs in the cooler? I'd have to say strawberry uncrustables that's always kind of been our go to whether it's testing or going to dunes, the racetrack Yeah, strawberry and festivals is always a go to Okay, fine. We're taking strawberry uncrustables out. You got to pick something else. If I ain't doing strawberry uncrustables I just want rolled up Turkey and a cheese stick to that's fire. Amen. I'd have to say gushers then. Yeah. gushers big gushers girl over here. All right. Well, whenever your birthday is please DM me and let me know what kind of gushers you want. Well, you just missed it. So I think you owe me a pack and gushers Okay, fine. Okay. What about those? Pocket Jimmy's? Whoo those sound good too. Yeah, so, Mom race mom always has chimichangas ready for us. And so we got the Del Taco taco, which was awesome. You know, I ate that. And then she had too hot to me. Chung was waiting for us and I had to go up to her and said I love Del Taco but these are way bitters in the Del Taco Sorry, sorry matter who will talk if you're watching but nothing beats a hot chimichanga plus, I just liked hearing let's say chimichanga Yeah, no, Mom always she bought this thing off of Amazon and you plug it into like a cigarette lighter, and it warms up your food for you. So she put them in all the chase truck so all the guys have them so she puts like to me chonga I was in like corndogs and so the guys just thrown into the little heater heat up there. I mean Chang is like we get to the finish line. The guys all have like, warmed up to me Tang as in corn dogs, hot dogs, and it's like a buffet out there for our pit crew. Do that's crazy. How big is that little heater thing? I'd say it's probably like, it's like a lunch. Oh, weird. We just had Mike from BP said that he couldn't see the feed. But it looks like it's working good to me. Yeah. Okay, so let's, let's kind of wind this thing down here. So was there anything other than those two instances that you had on the track that you want to talk about? Yeah, so I think it was on lap three. We were in our group, we were going good. And all of a sudden, we come up to this like sketchy kind of like rock climb s turn mountain. And there's a course worker like a truck. And he's shopping everybody. And there was three or four cars in front of us. And it was a bottleneck. So there was about two or three cars stuck on the hill, like sideways completely stuck. And so the lady comes over, she writes down our number and our time and she was like, I was like, Well, can we still go like I have four wheel drive. I can make it up the side of this mountain. Like I want to go, you know, because that just kind of gave stems and Mitch, more opportunity to check out. Like sitting here getting all antsy. I'm like, I'll just go round everybody. I won't call anybody. She's like, No, you got to stay here. Like everybody's got to stop. So I have like a little backup camera, and we throw in reverse. And we're just watching. Everybody stepped up behind us. And I'm like, Oh, my goodness, like, you know, I'm just thinking of all the different scenarios. I'm like, Mitch and Sims are gone. And here we are. I just caught all this dust. And so that kind of stuff. For us. That was a huge bummer. And I think we were stuck in that for probably like seven minutes. Yes. And when they let us out of the bottleneck, it was just pure dust. Like there was four of us going up this rock climb together. And it was a nightmare. But we instantly got around everybody and made some passes on that fast section that we were talking about, which was cool. Yeah. Now, that was a huge bummer for us. Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of the par for the course, though, right? Like, you got to do that. I mean, like in the at the Baja 500. This year, there was a massive bottleneck. And you always gotta be mindful that it could be for a human Pete, like, you know, somebody maybe needs help or something like that, like, so whenever I think about it, I always think like, Okay, first is everybody. Okay, second, how do we want to get around this and proceed forward. And then third, how the race organization is going to deal with it at the end of the race, right? So and you guys have a good opportunity, because you have a great relationship with Mad media and Matt Martelli to be able to talk with him about it after and I know a bunch of people had that same discussion with him. And I think that was pretty fair at the end. Oh, yeah, I think Marcelli brothers did a really good job of handling the situation they wrote on everybody's side time credit was awesome. So I mean, those guys know how to this situations. Yeah, it's not their first rodeo. Alright, so we're gonna wind down here and a little bit are right now. And then we're gonna get Chris Meyer from Max's tires. Ethan Ebert from Honda off road racing. And then Ryan Edwards is going to come on as well talks about some stuff. But if you had any suggestions on what you would do better at the race, like the debrief that you guys had on the way home, what would it be? Oh, that's hard. I mean, we always do a really good debrief. You know, we always want to make sure we're always like, working on our prep game, we'll put our prep game up against anybody's we feel really strong. You know, it's one thing to have one race car and on a team and to run one race car. But over here we run, sometimes three race cars for race cars for a race and, you know, we pride ourselves on what we do in the in the shop. As far as this race goes, you know, it's just there's small minor tweaks that can be done. I think that you know, the limited classes and, you know, I think some like the class elevens shouldn't have, you know, cut lines or detour lines, sometimes score does that because sometimes it's impossible. But like you said, I mean, we that's racing, we were able to get our time credits, so that wasn't too bad. It was just after the restart. We're stuck behind a few people, but we got around them. Um, but other than that, man, we pride ourselves on our prep and what we do in the garage, we, you know, Randy's always telling that we're winning races, and we're doing good and races because of the hours we spend the garage and that's, yeah, exactly. Alright, Sierra, give us a rundown of who helped you guys at the races and then we're gonna get the Honda boys on. Yeah, of course. We got to thank players razor they've been a huge supporter of ours. You know, the reason why we're racing provide us with a great platform to eat on. Gravel, kings, tires, no flats. I ran there open countryside by side 35 inch tire and it was amazing. It just folded over everything. We I know a lot of those guys had flats out there but those type Toyo Tires held up great. Awesome for us. Bottom Line spark shocks we ran the live Val suspension which is a game changer. Chupacabra, proline Rob's VP race fuels Lone Star shock therapy super ATV hostile Queen antigravity cross motorsport speed strap AGN my mom, my dad, this guy, my pit crew and everybody else who makes it possible it really it takes a village desert squadron as well. Yeah, I'm so stoked that your mom is coming to the races and honestly I think I'm going to try to get like slide into you be part of your team get some snacks from her maybe a chimichanga Alright, maybe that's the clips that I cut out the audio clip and I'll put it on the soundboard is just west saying Jimmy Chunga. We'll just hit it whenever we have a show. Alright guys, hey, we're gonna get the Honda guys on Well, we see Laughlin or no, we will. Yep, we've already begun. I'm so excited for that race in the car. Yeah, it'll be rad to see how fast you guys go there. I will see you guys this weekend. Thank you very much. Have a good night. All right. We'll see you later. All right, let's get the Honda boys on we're gonna get Chris Meyer on here. Talk about what fun he had at the races. Thank you very much to Sierra and the whole team Romo motorsports team for coming on. Let's get Ethan on here. Chris Meyer. What's up dude? How are you? What's up, man? I'm good. I like your Max's tires. Hat. That's pretty nice. So we I think we should just officially call you what your marketing guy for Max's but now I think we should just call you tire tester extraordinaire. I'm good with that. Yeah. Well, I'll add it to the title. Like my email signature. Yeah, exactly. Email. So everybody's everybody has to do more work and get into different job positions these days. So you can just add it on. Yeah, yeah, no problem. I have multiple email signatures. This one will be what was it again? I need to know that tire tester. Oh, yeah. Got it. All right. So let's, let's wait and we'll get Ethan Ebert on here real quick. And I think Ryan Edwards is probably going to join too. And then we can talk a little bit What's up, buddy? Hey there, buddy. So you're back in Georgia? Yeah, I'm home. Right on managing the career. Sweet man. All right. Looks like we got Ethan Eber on now to what's up Ethan Can you hear us? I don't think we can hear you even I'll text him real quick. Can't hear you buddy. Hey, look for add in. I mean, he's got the thing and yeah. That whole like you YouTube live right there was? Yeah, dude, it was pretty hard right? Twitch streaming. Alright, so let's ask a couple questions here. So you got to go out you got to support all of the Maximus drivers. You got to see Jeremy McGrath rollin West Miller, who are some of the other Max's guys that you got to hang out with this week? Well, fight. Got a title, right? And I didn't even get to say Hey, chill. So I was a little bummed about that. And then we hung out with a whole Honda team, which was drag. Miller McGrath. Am I leaving anyone out? No. I think there was a couple more guys, but that's a pretty good lineup right there. And you also got to hang out with Ethan Eva. Eva, what's up? Did? That's right, man. can kind of hear you a little bit. I think you might have to come closer to the phone or your air pods aren't hooked up all the way. Now, still can't hear anybody. Maybe just don't use the speaker. There we go. It's a little bit better. Still can't hear you. All right. Sounds a little bit better now. So let's talk about this a little bit Ethan. So you guys just started building a Honda Talon pre runner so that you can have a little bit better vehicle to pre run the course and like for Baja and some of those other events. How does that How was that going before the race? DD was actually going really good. Me and Joe put some good effort and time in it. And mainly him just because I got caught up with school and work and all that stuff. So just focus on that and had to do the rest of the car but it was a lot of fun. Just tearing apart the whole car and getting more more information and more knowledge of my race car. Just so if anything does happen. I can help Joe out there. Yeah, totally. And then you got had the opportunity or an idea came about that you were going to surprise Chris at Max's and allow him to drive that. That Honda Talon prerender we'll call it or short course car at the California 300. That was pretty cool that you approximate it. Put that all together. Were you a little bit scared for him? Or like Did you know what he was capable of? Dude, I had no clue what his background was in off road racing or anything, but I was like, dude, might as well. I mean, come on. Just get his name out there, get his his experience and hey, maybe he might buy a car and start racing with us, dude. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. So Chris, what is your background in off road? Closed course, motocross racing. I've never followed little pink arrows around a race course before. So, visibility's never been quite such a struggle either. It's pretty well, right. It was. It was rad. You know, I want I've watched some videos when I first started, have like dash cam stuff from trophy trucks. And like, it's so intense. You know, like, the closer you are to someone, the less you can see like that inverse relationship and how, how gnarly that is? Yep. Right. And so it was cool to experience that firsthand. And then kind of to play that. How fast can I go? without messing something up? Yeah, totally. Well, and listening, listening to someone tell you that, you know, Cool your jets. Yeah, exactly. So co drivers have a hard job, but it's wild to understand that too, so I'm just gonna give away the secret right now Chris already got like Chris got on the podium. He got a third place in the production 1000 Short Course race. The only guy to eat his metal X game style bass best picture of the whole weekend. Like that was that was pretty cool. For sure. But well, Ethan first of all, very nice shirt. I like it. My mom made it for me. So gotta show it off. Did somebody your sleeves? Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, they flew off when I was going so fast in the hometown. So just biting the ground? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. So Chris, when you got to the to the racism stuff, and you figured out that you were gonna be able to jump in a car, like that's gonna be pretty amazing, man. Like, you're welcome for letting you borrow my helmet. Thank you. Thank you. I look at like, the bottom of the the top a lot. Because your head is confirmed. You have larger head than I did. Because that thing was Okay, move that melon. Yeah. Now it was. Listen. I was telling someone the other day that is got to be one of the coolest experiences of my life. Just kind of the way it all happened, right like to for it to be kind of. It's not like something you prep for had a lot of time to really think about. And so to just kind of step into it and do it. You know, that that made it? I don't know, I made it just straight fine. Like I text Jeff afterwards. I said, I don't order I told you that it's too hard and time going to sleep the night after the race then the night before? Yeah, it's because your filter. So that was so rad. That was so fun. That way, you know, and then just kind of having that competitive background like you do, like you're thinking about all the things that you could, like, improve on Yep, quickly. So you know, that doesn't go away. I'm not gonna lie. There was some kid who's way better than me. stage next to me and the starting line. And I I mean, it crossed my mind and just go hard left and clean him out before. Yeah, and it's just you kind of have those competitive juices so and I don't get to do those types of things. So very often, so it was really cool to get it is cool. Matt Martelli just chimed in and said, It's so awesome to see the sponsors coming in and racing with us real recognize real and that's true, too. Right? And having that opportunity, you know, by Ethan and his whole family and the Honda off road guys was pretty rad. And like, we got to see a little bit of that stuff throughout the weekend and the smile on your face and stuff. Ethan Did you like what did you think when when you were seeing Chris like out there? Were you like, Damn, he's actually hauling the mail. Dude, he was doing really good. And for the last couple passes that I saw him go, I was like, dang, he's actually getting into you know, he was just overtime when we went pre running. He was just getting more and more comfortable. And it was just awesome to see, you know, he's just got that full factory treatment arriving dry. Ivan just got on the podium to say it was awesome. Yeah, it was. That was. I was gonna say it was the point the night before, where I was kind of I was pestering Jack saying, hey, like, I can help with that. And Jeff looks at me very sternly and goes, Hey, man, you're here to break. Oh, yeah, driver. This whole speech and I can imagine actually being there, you know, legit, and you know, he's like, I need you hydrating. I need you thinking about tomorrow. I need you clearing your mind. There. Yeah, it was sounds like yes, this is legitimate. Yeah, I shaved my head. No wonder you bid the metal like X Games. I don't know how to pronounce his instagram name, Rob, Rob nor, but he said, so have you already started acquiring sponsors to get together for your debut next season? Listen, I've been inquiring on cars. Yes, I've been I've been calling around. I got it. I it's after? Well, I was telling a couple of buddies. Like, I was like, Dude, we got to figure out how to do this every once. And again, I don't know how. But that's it's such a different challenge is being again, like I hate not to make a big deal out of being from the opposite coast. But you just don't get to experience that kind of terrain and those specific challenges. So the good opportunity to do that is super cool, dude. Absolutely. All right. So we're gonna talk, Ethan, let's talk about your race a little bit. And then we'll end it with the good stuff with with Chris. So how did your race go? Well, it was definitely going really good on the first lap. So we were I believe what I what I've been told is we were leading the first lap by I don't know, two, three minutes maybe. And when we came in to, or we didn't come into pit at all. So we just went straight through because we got that bigger fuel. So So we did the first lap was leading in points or the points leading in time, and just kept going. And we never saw anyone, so we pretty much just had to clean air the whole way through. But yeah, Joe and I were just getting it dialed in, we put on a pretty good heater too, for the first one. So that was kind of our plan. But when we got into second lap, we came into the pit. And they saw that we had a torn boot and the right rear so we had to change that so it's that's kind of put us back like 15 minutes, but the crew did such a good job changing that out. It was really awesome for them and refilled got back out. And I think we were running second or third on our third lap. But ending that like near third lap me and Joe are just done. You know, like we can we can handle the race car anymore. So I believe it was just mainly my like poor decisions for hydrating. I feel like I should have hydrated a little bit more and maybe put a little bit more time in for cardio. But um, yeah, we were just done because our heads just kept hitting the back, you know, since it was such a gnarly course. But, ya know, adding a third lap, we had to get out. And yeah, that's just kind of how it went down. Yeah, it's gnarly, do that course was just crazy, gnarly. And then you guys had a good support mechanism. And to see like, behind the scenes stuff was really cool. Chris, like you were doing a lot of behind the scenes stuff to the sounds like you actually talked to Greg Kelly, who was actually on the show a little bit earlier about some racing stuff. All I mean, when I talked to so many people I can remember well, I talked to you. It was good. I try to talk to as many people as I can. You know, I don't know a lot. So, I mean, I know now, but it's always good to know more. Yeah, absolutely. It's how I put it so well. You know. Oh, yeah. I get an opportunity to you know, talk to someone that I've never met before and learn and kind of hear a different perspective or their perspective. I tried to take that opportunity. Yeah, absolutely. In an old fart. I don't know. All right, so let's get Caden Max gonna come on and just about a minute here. Let's get both of your guys's favorite things over the weekend and then also what are for next time? So Ethan You go first. Probably the favorite thing was qualifying not qualifying trackers a lot of fun. Except we didn't send the big jumps. I'm kind of sad that we didn't I kind of wanted to. I was like ah should i But memes were like Nah, we kind of like our back so we didn't send them but yeah, that was fun. But to take away from that race is just me getting better cardio and stuff. Just eating healthier way earlier before the race and just doing all that stuff. So that's what I take away from it. Dude get on Phil Burton's program because that's that's the program to be on. Right man. He's got a good good deal going. Alright, Ethan, thanks very much for joining us did and it was good seeing you and your horse this weekend. Keep doing that good work man. Help and Support your sponsors and the people around you them makes a big difference, dude. Of course we just try to help everyone we can you know, because if we can get the more people we can get to in this sport is just the better, obviously. So I agree 100% All right, Chris, the same question to you, man. Well, and let's see here, Bradley am how actually said your son and you have the same haircut? He loves it. Oh, Bradley, even you can bail out, but please wear as loud of sunglasses as you possibly can. Oh, dude, I already got kicked out. So we're ready. All right, later, boys. Hey, thanks. So you've been as Boris. Alright, Chris, what was your favorite part? And what could you do better? I think I'm gonna have to say that my favorite part was doing a pre race interview and in telling whatever the announcers name was that I was going to see in the next day on the podium, and then showing up on the podium. Okay. I was totally just talking smack. So today that we're not, you know, when you call your shot, and you make it like, you really gotta lean. So, but it was pretty cool to see that because like, it just goes to show how much cool like, how cool off road is, right? Because you're having fun, you're talking shit. You're having a good time. And then you go out there and then you're like, Fine, you're getting into the flow. You're kind of feeling how it's going. And then like, Oh, hey, we're doing good. Like, we should step it up. Like, what do I do better? You're probably communicating with Daniel, your co driver being like, how am I doing? What can I do? I will add that Yeah, I mean, it was a lot like where do you you know? Yeah, there's a ton of it's simply I can get better at right handers? Very simple. We can just start there, right? Whether dirt bike or right? Not zoo lander level, but I'm not far off. You know, that. And then the other thing Ethan mentioned it, like, I had it in my mind until they know, talk me out of it, that I was not gonna let off from the start line off that first jump. I was like, This is gonna be awesome. And he's like, this is not advisable. So. But that's yeah, I, you know, I don't have a lot of time behind the wheel of really many four wheel machines other than, you know, janky commuter vehicle. So it's all it's all I could have experienced and all of it. It was rad. Yeah. There's a couple comments that came in. Daniel, actually, your co driver just said, You got better lap by lap. So that's rad. Alexia lemming said, right handers are always harder than left handers. It was, it was just cool to see like, I really want to commend you. Because whatever position you got, the smile that you had on your face. And the level of respect that I saw coming out of you with all of the people around you, the people that you were supporting the athletes, the drivers, the teams. It looked to me like you were just having a good time doing it. And I love to see when manufacturers have any products, tires, shocks, anything, have that same passion, because it means a lot to the industry. And it really helps things grow. Listen, I worked in a different industry in my younger years, and to be blessed with an opportunity to work in this industry. I don't take it for granted. It is a joy, to speak to so many people that love what they do or love what they're involved in. And you know that? I think it's really I just wherever you go, it's underrated, how cool all of motorsports is, and how awesome of a vibe and and a community that we're you know, pulls together when need be. But we're all competitive. And when it's time to be serious, and be elite. We're you know, we get on the podium. That's all we do. But like no big deal. But I mean, let's have some fun. Yeah, please. Or else why do it. So, you know, I'm grateful for the opportunity. I'm grateful that I get to work in this industry. Yeah. It's been a great time getting to know you better. And I have a lot of respect for what you do and how you carry yourself in the industry as well. I appreciate and proctor in the in the Ebert family as well. I mean, you know, I both spoken to both of them personally but you know, can't say enough for how well they care. They themselves represent Max's as a brand from my corporate perspective and then you know just how they represent the industry in themselves. Yeah. Alright. We're gonna get Caden Mac on so just thank all your sponsors big racer guy. That's the Honda factory factory off road. Yep. Proctor racing group. The Ebert family. And Max's tires, of course. Some pretty massive sponsors there. All right, well, good job, man. We really appreciate you supporting the industry, obviously. And thanks for coming out and having some fun still love seeing the smile. Right? Yeah. All right, Chris. We're gonna have a good one did have a good evening later. You too. All right, so we're gonna get Caden MCAC grin on here. Caden had some pretty good driving skills over the weekend. His first race in a trophy truck. Caden Mac, what's up, dude? How are you? How are you, George? I'm doing pretty good. We're doing good man. I would like to say congratulations, you did a fantastic job this weekend. It was your first race and a trophy truck, a trophy truck that has seen a lot of wins, actually. And I would just like to get the elephant out of the room here. You weren't happy with your performance, you want to do better. But I love seeing that because that means that you always want to be better at racing. So give us a little bit of a rundown? Yeah, kind of the sentence you just said it's kind of a bummer that I am upset knowing that we did win a trophy truck. Um, of course, I wanted to win overall. But for me as a racer, it's hard for me to look at it that way as to be happy for the opportunity and what happened. But of course, I am kind of giving a rundown on the week. The week started I guess on on Tuesday. The decision to run this race really wasn't made until the week before the race so whatever, two weeks ago, I think but even Tuesday night getting home from work I loaded the truck up it was still like you know, we'll see how it goes. Get there we prepare on Wednesday, we didn't go Tuesday to Wednesday to program period and three laps in my Polaris razor. The track of course so you've heard you've heard a lot before it was you know, gnarly, technical and rough. But you know, as you put on more laps, that stuff, you know, smoothens out. You get used to the rough stuff and you kind of know where it is you're better prepared for it. Wednesday night got prepared to go qualify Thursday morning. Let me ask you a question real quick. Was the truck already prepped? Or did you you have to help the team get it all prepped? Like what's the what's the lead into it? Like how much does the team and your father put you to work to give you the opportunity to get out there. So the truck came off the ball 400 just about two weeks ago or so or three weeks ago like I can't even remember nowadays with all the races but uh, not too long ago, the truckers the ball 400 had a pretty good result there. The truck came home and basically got cleaned washed and you know, a little bit of prep my dad along with the guys at Collins, Eric at Collins, they kind of prep the truck, I have to go to work. So it's, you know, kind of hard to get my hands on that truck because I have my own my own players to prep. But uh, you know, thankfully they did most of the prep, it was mainly just, you know, oil change, wash it down. Again, the decision wasn't made, or I didn't even know I was racing until the week before the race. Yeah, it was kind of a surprise for everybody. I'm assuming for you. That was gnarly. Yeah, it was kind of I was actually at work in a hole one day, and my dad called me asked, Hey, are you busy? I'm like, Yeah, but you know, what was? What? What's the question? He's like, you're racing my truck on the California 300. I'm like, Oh, hmm. That's all let me let me think about that. But I mean, it's a yes. But let me think about it. You know, I mean, think about the ins and outs and everything. See your eyes lighten up right now. Hey, real quick. We got some fans down in Australia watching right now to say hi to you. What's up, guys? How are you guys? I want to go to Australia. So if anybody can make that happen, I'd love to do it. Boom. Let's figure that out for you. But yeah, that is cool, man. And it's really neat to see. Your dad loves racing. Your whole family loves racing. It's really cool to see him give you the opportunity to do this. And at a race in Southern California, where everybody can watch you do it. How was the pressure? Like how does it feel getting in the driver's seat? Are you just excited? Are you worried? Like, what's the emotions behind that? Yeah, of course, it's a huge opportunity for my dad to give me the opportunity to do this. But there's also the people that give him the opportunity to drive exactly his truck for a living. So that's like, you know, BF Goodrich tires, VP racing fuels, all those people kind of banded together. This race wasn't really on the schedule. So we were able to, you know, throw some tires together from BFG and some fuel from BP to be able to put this truck on, you know, for the race and, you know, huge thanks to those guys. There have been, you know, longtime partners with my dad. And, you know, we're getting some pretty good years partners with me with my short course or our players program. But yeah, the question about the pressure to me, very early on my rate same career I, you know, people ask you get nervous before the race or anything, and I've never been that way. To me, it's kind of just the job needs to get done and you go to the job and there's no reason to be nervous about it. Pressure. Not really. I mean, I know what I'm capable of, and other people are, you know, starting to understand what I'm capable of and trusting you with, you know, opportunities to do these things like race the truck, but uh, yeah, pressure for me. I mean, it does no good, you know, hold the pressure on your shoulders, you might as well just let it off. And, you know, close your eyes and do it, you know how to do so? Yeah, that's actually wasn't too bad. Yeah, just let your senses and your ability to take over. I agree with that wholeheartedly, man. And I think those are well spoken words from a youngster. But I think that those are really mature words, right? Because a lot of the people that watch the show are kids, the kids that came on the show, and to be able to understand that I think really excels you as a driver and could help them as drivers as well, because it shows how passionate you are, first of all, when you critique yourself so much at the end of a race, but you also position yourself at the beginning of a race to be able to execute as good as possible. So those both of those things are very, very important. And I appreciate you being so honest with us. Yeah, of course, there's a there's a lot of people that put their butts on the line for us to go race, you know, me and my dad. So it's not just the companies or the names you see on my shirt. It's the people behind those companies that have built those companies and built those products to be the best. So we're able to go run that truck to the desert as fast as we do. All right, we only got about three minutes left by give us a little bit of a rundown of the race and kind of how excited you are to be out there when you were actually pushing on the gas and turning the steering wheel because it looked fun man you made it look like it was smooth and it was a gnarly course. Yeah, Thursday we were able to qualify a pole with my dad riding with me and that was kind of my first time I was able to push that truck not to its max but you know close. I drove a little bit Tuesday night or Monday night here in town out in the desert and kind of gotten comfortable with it but able to qualify first by you know, about 20 seconds was pretty cool. Friday actually reached in the class 11 car with my dad's friend and family friend. Yeah, Cisco, Cisco, Bo, he's a class 11 legend. He wins a lot of races and classes love and so I wrote passenger with him for two laps, got a little bit more pressure on time in and then Friday night. Basically my dad said he wasn't gonna ride with me. So I had to find a co writer. And it was kind of a joke. You know, we're joking around the people. Hey, you want to ride Hey, you want to write and everyone's like, yeah, I don't know. Friday morning came around and Tucker Conroy and people are familiar with in the industry press. You prep Scott stuff and doorman stuff. He had a guy Andrew or keys who ended up hopping in the CO driver seat with me Friday morning. He had never seen the truck or nothing. And he got in there and did a great job in the right hand seat. The green flag flew and we put the hammer down, did the first lap came back around we had a pretty good gap on the next trucks. We started back in a down. Second third lap went by pretty smooth fourth lap went around and we got into slash x pit and we realized girbau Things are pretty dang close to us. And I know that they call but so I put the hammer down. We weren't sure completely on the time that you know how much we had them by how much they had us by but I knew that I need to get to the finish line as fast as possible. So we tried to do that. Unfortunately, I got a little ahead of myself probably and clipped the rock pretty hard. got a flat tire and it took a while to change again. My fault. I'm the one that got the flat. Never it's not the writers fault. A lot of drivers states writers fault with a flat tire took a long time. It's my fault. I hit the rock that was about 10 miles or five miles from the finish line. There was not much we could do after that we still hammered down across the finish line and Killian and mount Martelli came up to me and they kind of saw it my eyes that I knew what happened. And they knew and I had Killian standing right next to me with his phone in his hand showing me the times and as soon as Grabowski cross line. We knew we lost overall, we won trophy truck, but you know Congratulations with your bow skis. I'm around them a lot. We talked we always talk in staging before the race of three boys are they're all pretty cool guys. And even their dad is they've been around the industry for a long time. And it's cool to see the low power spec trucks when because that's kind of a little bit more of the industry I'm from is the spec trucks in the 1800s with Dallas threes. I always figured that those are pretty dang cool trucks that the racing so it's cool to see one overall, of course, I want it overall. But you know, we still want to be struck and nobody can take that away from us. Yeah. And they're just like Matt Martelli said right now. He said, You made history, which you did. And I think it's so commendable. Man, you're a fantastic driver. And one of the things that I understood by what you were saying right now, is a word that I live very, very highly with. And that's accountability. And you take accountability for what you do. And that's why you are achieving the things that you are is because if you pass the buck, you're not helping yourself, right? But if you take responsibility and accountability for the things that you're doing, it makes you really strive to be a better person better racecar driver, everything and helps you a lot in your life. So please keep being that person too, because that's going to make it so that you're a much better human being and racer in the future. Yeah, of course. Thank you Again, this this whole thing was not winged. We don't do anything. We don't wing anything, everything's prepared. But we didn't have any pit guys go into this race. So Friday morning, I believe we walked over to all because this guy is Steve August, who has been a family friend for a long time with my dad. We asked if their pig guys would pit us and you know, they were happy to help. They had very fast tire changes. And you know, that was awesome to have people jump in and help. It was pretty dang cool race in that truck. And I hope we get the opportunity to again. But yeah, overall, looking back at it, it was a pretty amazing weekend. And I really hope that you're gonna get to do it again, a couple comments, and we'll have you thank your sponsors. But Lopez raising said I can't wait to see what you do in the future. You got a bright future ahead of you. Yeah, drove controlled and brought up the finish line in one piece, which was very difficult during that race. We got some more comments coming in. But please give us a give a shout out to all the people that helped you. I know there's a lot of people behind the scenes and obviously on the side of the truck. Yeah, of course, BF Goodrich tires on these these 40 inch tires, I'm used to a 28 inch cam three on my Polaris. And these 40 inch tires, really just roll everything roll over everything. And that's something that I had to get used to in the trucks is that how fast they go over the rocks, FOX shocks, VP racing fuels, Vision wheel, we are able to put our truck on display in the vision wheel booth. Thursday after qualifying, they actually just came out with a carbon fiber UTV wheel and weighs about nine pounds. So that's something that's going to, you know, be industry changing. And it's pretty cool to see I held in my hands and, you know, it feels like it feels like a trophy, not a wheel. So it'd be cool to see some of that on your car. Yeah, I can't wait, it'd be great to see that, that that will take off and hopefully changes change the industry change the game a little bit. Also, I want to thank everybody that, you know, has stuck with me for a long time, you know, behind these companies or people I've said that before, but they're not just people, they're mentors to me. And it means a lot to you know, they care and, you know, talk to me how to do better and how to change the things I'm doing. And I appreciate that a lot. Sometimes I get super down on myself or hard on myself. And those people reassure me that everything's okay. And I'm doing a good job. So that's a pretty important special to me. And along with my dad. He's, of course a huge mentor. And the whole reason I'm in this sport anyway, but uh, it's awesome to have the companies and the people behind me to push me to keep doing better, dude. Yeah, well, you're doing a fantastic job, man. So keep being hard on yourself internally, because that's gonna make you way better. But keep knowing that you, you got to understand how good of a job you're doing, buddy. So all right, we're gonna get Justin Lambert from Cognito motorsports on man. Please tell your family we said hello and keep kicking butt kid. And we'll Oh, well. We see Laughlin. Um, I'll be at Laughlin. For sure. I would bet at least one of the two days I don't know if I want to be in behind the steering wheel or behind a GPS or just sit on the sidelines. But you know, I'll be there and shaking hands meeting people and watching the races is always fun. But yeah, overall. Thank you, George. I love this show you have. It's pretty awesome. Thanks to bring this to our sport. It grow helps girls. This girl's a sport so I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll keep it going, buddy. All right. Thanks, dude. We'll see you later. Thank you. See you. Bye. Bye. We're gonna get Justin Lambert from Cognito on. Man. That is so cool to see how passionate Caden McCarron is the accountability thing, man that's massive. In my book. I love seeing people being accountable. Justin lambreaux. What's up, buddy? How are we doing? We're doing pretty good. You have a good day at work on Monday. Yeah, it was a sore day work. But I did not call him sore. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about that a little bit. So one of the things that I like is that you will work some support mechanisms on your body to be to help out like all of us motocross guys, and we always have that protection. And the course was super, super rough this weekend. What did you think about it overall? Yeah, it was super challenging. I went to Barstow Tuesday and Wednesday and pre ran and did a lap on Tuesday, two laps on Wednesday. And I'm like, this is challenging course. super challenging. There's not going to be a course that the guy who goes all out is gonna win in a UTV. We, my normal co driver, hey, Zeus couldn't make it this time. So luckily, Max, Eddie, who's from Barstow there, he stepped up and today if you need any help, let me know and I'll say, hey, go drive. I need a coach. That was a situation that that you must have been like, yes. Yeah, I didn't. I don't know. I didn't know a lot about Max and got to know him a little bit here this last week and he's a stand up dude. Yep. I've raced against him a little bit. He's driven scalings car and guys fast and I'll tell you what, yeah, he's solid. And he knows Barstow. He's a great co driver. We had a good time out there. So EP round on Wednesday. Like I said, the super rough quarters. We ran a pretty hard on our last three run, pre run lap. And we said hey, that's a pretty good things for race day and it was About an hour and 45 minutes, and I thought, Okay, our 45 minutes task for that seven hours, we'll see how this course holds up as possible. And that course didn't disappoint me even got rougher and rough ever after. But yeah, regarding the export stuff, I got a bad note. Just write bad habits through, you know, all my years of racing. And so, any help? Dude, yeah, 100%. And I actually, like I like to see in that because I think more people should do that. Like, I honestly think that that's a good preventative measure. I'm always about safety. And I'm always about longevity and fitness and stuff like that. So when I saw that, I was like, Oh, more power to just and I hope that other people take wind of it. Alright, so going into the race, I know that you have a new car being built in the background, you decided to bring the tried and true car, the turbo car to the races. There was some pretty stiff competition, though. Yeah, there was and I know I'm never, I'm never a hitter in qualifying. I'm just I like the longer races, I don't like to go out there and thrash it on a qualifying lap. So we just, we just went out there did held a nice steady pace, we thought it was worth the top 10. And it really wasn't it was a it was a 12. But we did have some pro ours up in there. And when Quist doing his thing. And so we started fourth in class, and 12 Overall, but we had a long race, you know, didn't really matter that that much. We just kind of wanted to get out in front of the dust as much as we could on lap one. Yeah. And with this, actually, Nick Templeton just commented in your mister consistency, that's a good way to put it actually is, during a race like this. The driving style has a lot to do with how you end up at the finish, right? Because you have to understand what's going on with the car, you have to understand what's going on. With the humans inside the car with your tires, there's so many things that go through your brain. And understanding how your driving style is, how does that get executed throughout the race? Are you changing stuff are you kind of just keeping it going? I'm gonna say changes. And I'm gonna say that every race because you just never know how race is going to go. You really got to start the race to see what the pace is gonna be live. We started next to calf row. And of course, both of us wanted to get out and put the other one in the dust. And luckily, I asked him out off the start, but you just never know what the piece is going to be until you start the race. And we got out on camera, they're kind of put them into dust and put a little bit of time on him on that one. And then we backed it down and backed it down, you know, 10% or so for lab two. And because it was just getting rough. We weren't seeing anybody behind this. We started passing a couple cars here and there. So we backed it down and in the last two, we pulled in for fuel, air. As we were sitting there getting fueled up, you came Kaprow right in the pit, and we're here. So he obviously had to drive through the zone and probably step back a little bit in lap one, right, pick it up a little bit in the last two is not guessing. Yep. And we sort of have a little bit of a drag race at the end of the pits there, which is pretty comparable. But we back we beat him back out on the course for to start lap three to start the second half of the race. And he's challenging for sure. Obviously, he won the race and props props to him. But you know, going out on lap three. Again, we put them in our dust and put some time on him and got to the point we couldn't see him anymore. It seems to be more just kind of held that pace. Theory was tough, rough. We got about a third of the way through that lap. It was catching some people in the dust and how much was it at that point. I mean, it was he was it was it was bad. It was really bad. So by this time, I'm going holy moly, we got this lab to finish and one more like this is I'm ready to be done. We got past another guy that all sudden Kaprow was in my ear and I'm like whoa, where did he come from? And so he's he started pouring it on that three and so we ended up getting a flat tire and after he got on this so he got out he got way off let's there came back around you know to mean pit and got a new tire on the rack and headed back out on that for just figured man if he can if we can run it that hard to him, but we kind of did our deal and hard and then we ended up actually catching him. And it was one of the sectors where you're kind of going up over a crest and around fireroad And you kind of see somebody else. That's kind of like it's like, it's like you're a punter, you know. And Karen, when you Yeah, when you're racing and you see that dust, it just, you get away the eyes get in the heart starts pumping and you just start chasing. It's weird how that happens, right? It is I mean, it's I don't know if it's an it's just a racers blood or what? But you see it and then you can max goes, Man, somebody up there, we're catching on but they're moving. We'll see who it is. And we come around a bend and we catch a glimpse of the side of capitals car and Max is like that's Caprica, and I'm like, You gotta be kidding me. So we got about 16 miles left to the finish line. And we catch them Cafaro or we're in his dust come to the section where there's like four lines we basically pull up along next to him. It gets us in the corner pull up pass him there was another section where there's like five lines we actually pass him in that section but he had inside quarter on the next quarter. We do have it in hard got flat tire Oh yeah, so that was about 14 miles left to finish we had to pull over and change a flat and he was beyond yeah but also respect the battle like the those times don't they're few and far between when you can battle that hard. It was it was a battle I mean, that part was cool. That was really cool to kind of battle from start to finish in your in your plan and little game of cat and mouse and who's gonna run hard win and who's gonna back it off when and it's a mental game as well for sure. But two miles after we change that plat, we lost the rear axle so it was 12 miles to the finish. That rear axle was dragged in the dirt for 12 miles we just did what we could to not have to pull over to change it and so obviously couldn't catch him from there. But we hold on a second. But yeah, super challenging race. They say that was like a Baja 503 100 miles. Yeah, I was gonna say that's where you guys were saying? Yeah, the guys that the California 300 said you guys killed it. It was awesome battle. Like, whenever I hear that story, like to be honest with you, man. Like it kind of gives me chills because I love that like coming from Moto you like, even if you get second in a race, but you battle so hard to the finish line. It's a win for everybody because that stuff is really, really meaningful. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't just a drive, you know, on a Friday, when you get out there and you got someone to battle with and, you know, you got another competitors and hang it all out there too. I mean, it's just makes it really super challenging. And it's like I said, it's a game of cat and mouse and who's strategy's gonna pay? Yeah, 100% Actually, Nick Templeton just chimed in. He said worse than Laughlin Dude, it was a million times. Laughlin is like a graded freeway compared to this. Dude a little different than lawful, lawful. He's got a lot of chop. And there wasn't a ton of chop here. But there was a lot of rocks, while ruts, just a lot of gotchas. And he was brutal. I don't think my neck has ever been that sore after a race. I mean, I heard Sam say earlier, like, there was no time to take a drink. And he's right there was the only time I was able to take a drink was in pit when we're fueling up and then when we put the tire in the rack, other than that, yeah, like there was no smooth spots, or you could grab your line and get it under your helmet and take a drink. And so by the end, I mean, my hands are cramping. My abs are cramping. And he was gnarly. Yeah, and you and Max were both so busy in the cockpit. It's like how do you do anything like that? Like, yeah, it's like riding a dirt bike track and you can't ever pull a tear off because you're so busy right? Alright, so we only got like a minute or so here left but what was your favorite part of the track? And then what do you guys usually do like a debrief that you can do better? They were part of the track was the tacos at the finish? I mean, I tell you like halfway through lap one, I'm going damn this is rough and I'm going there's four laps and we're only an eighth of the way through this race I'm on hold it's gonna be a long day so and then on the way home obviously talked about what broke and why and you know, we had an actual shear. We've never seen an RCV shafts here like that. And just kind of wondering what happened. But honestly, we're talking about the next race already and what we're going to do better so the next one is the ball 1000 That's what we're looking forward to. Right on man. Well, I like that. That mindset and the way that you guys think because you come off the track, you understand what happened during the race and then you understand what you can do better. That's always the true sign of a winning race mentality. Right. So I think you guys did fantastic. I thought it was cool that you got to, you know, work with Max a little bit as well. It's kind of neat that off road kind of just, you know, can come together like that. So it was pretty rad man and then so Baja 1000 What class are you gonna raise Yeah, we're up there like top three or four points for score for championship points. So we're sticking in the turbo class. We're going to try and win this race and win a championship that will be a first for us to win a sport championship. So that's the goal right now. The one the 1001 SCORE Championship. Yeah, that's no small feat, dude. So we Yeah, I wish you luck. I will see you at the Baja 1000. Yeah, throw a shout out to all the people that helped you all your crew and obviously the people that are on the side of the car too. As always, we got this badass cognitive Monster Energy players razor and also want to thank fk rod ends ITP tires, fox racing shocks Baja designs. Man, I got great parts. So the rest is up to me, you know, in the driver's seat, and it's just fun to have people like that behind us. Just be able to get out there all the great companies but like we just talked with Caden McVicker and accountability. It's pretty cool that you guys all have that dude. So keep up the good work, and we'll see you down to 1000. So thanks, Justin. Real quick. Thanks for man. It's awesome that you, you appreciate the kids and you had those out there. My first man. Thumbs up there. Congrats. All those kids that hustled out there, keep at it, and we'll see you down. So before you hang up, and does that mean that Justin Lambert might do a little shimmy, like a little dance on the top of his car. And we'll start practicing the night. All right. You can call Jackson Mandel and see what he says he'll give you some tips. Thanks so I know the floss. Alright, so we're gonna get some more kids coming up here in just a second. We got Bella Burchard and Cruz Burchard so you guys can jump on anytime. It's so cool to see the off road community coming together like this. I think it's rad that everybody supports each other especially like what Justin said with the kids, man. So Bella and Cruz jump on and, and we'll start talking a little bit about your weekend. I know that you guys had a pretty eventful weekend actually. So I'm stoked to talk with you guys. About some we're going to call real life racing. So Manny, what's up, dude? We are doing good over here. We're not the races but we're at the shop. Bella Rashard. What's up. Hi, how are you? We're doing awesome. How are you? Your hair looks really nice. Thank you. You guys just go out to sushi or something? What the heck? No, I've been home healing up resting. I can't really move much. So. Yeah, so Alright, let's get right into it. You guys want to race the California 300. Your brother and you race in the desert race. You guys do it together, you switch positions in the car like driver and CO driver. So you guys both support each other. You guys learn a lot when you guys do that. A great Kelly racing just said Bella and Cruz. What a wild weekend. Create Haley Hi, and also commented Bella. But yeah, so it's interesting to see because it's a good dynamic. It's a really good learning dynamic. It's a really good understanding of what family can do together. And how did it start off? How did the race start off? It was great. Honestly, preparation going into it was crazy. We had everyone helping and the star of the actual race. We had a good luck. And we were in first pretty sure we passed everyone in our class. Dude, how are you? Good. How are you? doing really good, man. So you haven't seen which side are you on on your screen because it's like CO driver and driver right here next to each other on Instagram Live. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Bella. But I want to preface this by also saying I appreciate you guys both coming on and talking about your weekend because we're going to talk about what we would like to consider some serious but motivating things. We're going to talk about safety we're going to talk about how you guys deal with getting injured and what you guys think about it as racers and I think that's very important for everybody. So please continue Bella. Yeah, we had a pretty good lead I think we were in first and on time and first physical and our GPS was there was so many issues with it and it was difficult and I was relying on cruisers relying on GPS so it's difficult going a race not with without those tools ready in hand. You know, I made a mistake on my part and we ended up going on the course the wrong way and went and it head on collision with Jason Rivera. And and thankfully everyone's okay. I mean, all the safety stuff that we had and it could have been times worse than it was so I'm just glad that we're all okay and walked away from bases. So first things first, very respectful that you were honest with everybody. This is a picture of what the car look like. So, like you said the safety was a massive thing, right? Like, we're very, very glad that you guys are okay. The injury that you sustained was I think you got 10 or 12 stitches in your knee, you had a pretty big cut there. I think we'll probably let people go to your Instagram page if they want to see that. But when you go through, and we're gonna call it an accident when you have an accident like that. What do you do? Like, what, what did you guys do in the situation? Because this is very important. Yeah. Honestly, the first thing I felt was my knee and I was worried that you know, not only was I the only one are, it's different when you're first one, you're the only person there but when you have your life and your, your brother's life, making sure he's okay, and into a safe spot and realizing that there's trucks on this track, too. There's so many stuff going through our mind. First person we wanted to contact with to make sure that we're okay. And especially make sure the people that we ran into and if they were okay, and they help and they were they were definitely a great help for us. So thank you. So that's super cool. And give us like an idea of what you were thinking at the time Cruz. Yeah, it was a it was scary. But I was trying to keep calm and just mellow the situation out as much as we could just not have everyone freaked out and make everything a lot worse than it was even though it was still pretty bad. But um, yeah, probably just stay calm. Yeah, that's crazy. Um, real quick. Rowan McGrath just joined row and did very well at the races to row and you're more than welcome to come on the live feed, if you want to talk about it a little bit. If your parents let you you guys can you can come on and just a little bit to just let us know if you want to join us. But I don't know. Like I'm having a feeling like in my heart when I when I hear you guys like the first instant that you guys have an accident like this, you really kind of have to, to tune your head to be like, Okay, I need to take an inventory of what's going on. I need to look at the human beings first, like you said, Bella, like your brother and the other people that are in the other car. But give us a rundown of your thought process and what you do, do you get out of the car? Do you move to the side? Like what are the things that you think and you execute on? Um, so yeah, we got out of the car. And we actually tried to drive away thinking that we were fine. And that we could just continue the race, but the car was gonna make it we pulled over and same spot as we could. And we immediately got out, I realized I was a bit hurt and I couldn't walk. And Cruz was kind of getting stuff together contacting as many people as we could. The Jason they walked to us and helped us and told us back with his damaged car all the way from where we were to make pit. So I thank you so much. Like we couldn't have done that. Without you. It was crazy. Right? There is an act of kindness and just that an off road legend right there. Like a lot of people wouldn't do that, you know, a lot of people would turn a turn their head and be like, You guys messed this up or whatever it is. Right? So kudos to them. Maybe after this, you could send me a direct message because I'd like to talk with them as well and tell them they did such a good job because that's a really cool thing for them to do crews when they were doing that. Were you pretty happy that they were helping out? Or how did you feel? Uh, yeah, I was actually pretty surprised when they showed up because I was expecting maybe they just drive off and kind of ignore what happened. But yeah, they were super supportive and kind of showed us like, sorry, this happened and move on from it and just take as a lesson, you know? Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. And that's one thing that you guys will probably take with you guys for the rest of your lives too is that no matter what you help before you think about yourself, and I think that that's a really good lesson that they were able to show you guys. Okay, so if you could have changed anything or if you could have done things different How would you have changed the situation? Or would you have dealt with it the same way there was nothing that we could have done to prevent this. I mean, we could have taken time to like look a bit more about the GPS and how it actually worked that we weren't struggling it with it during the race but you know I feel like me crews as kids out there in the middle of the desert handled it pretty well and especially like realizing that you know for kids you know we don't have as much experience as adults and we're trying to do this it's it's crazy when you get in a car you have to realize that shows a lot of maturity for both of you guys so crews when when you do get back to the pits and us first of all, you scared the crap out of your mom and dad. But what do you get back? What do you tell? What do you tell the team? What do you tell your mom and dad and what do you learn from it when you're having have those conversations? Oh, yeah, I was gonna just give me the rundown of like, how everything happened, how it happened, when it happened. And then we can all just sat down and thought about it for a minute and just realize how, how much worse it really could have been. And thankful that we didn't get more hurt than we were. Yeah. And it really like there's a lot of adrenaline going on at the time. And you guys are thinking like, you kind of think and fault I was on you or like, whatever that whatever the emotions that you're going through, right. But when you get the time to take a deep breath, and you calm down, you hear other people's perspective, it usually helps a lot. And it usually puts it in its actual true reality that you guys can understand. So going forward, I feel like it's going to be a good thing to be able to have in the back of your head excuse you guys understand the experiences? Yeah, for sure. It's pretty crazy, though. And then so how did the weekend go after that? Where you guys, Abella you had to go get your knee repaired? Because you had to get some stitches in it? Did you come support your brother the next day? Yes, we did. You know, I was limping. Try not to rip open the stitches. But yeah, I made sure I was able to support him and whatever he was doing. Well, you're already a strong human being in general. So that's rather you went out there and showed him that you were supporting him. So cruiser How did it go? The next day, then? What? How did they start off? Um, yeah, it was it started really good. We made like two or three passes within the first lap. Oh, wait, what class? Are you racing that day? Because it was the youth RS one. I think you were driving. Yeah. So we were running get past like two or three cars. And then we got a flat on lap two, I believe. And I'm on the eight mile course, the short course. And then I think later after before lap three started. Because like couple corners before it. There's like a long straightaway. And I made a pretty big mistake and rolled the car a little bit pretty bad. Yep, there it is. Yeah, it was pretty gnarly. Like the car looks like it's pretty toast. But keep going. And then I'm gonna ask you a question. But so the paramedics and everybody was there super fast. Want to give a thank you to Brian. And Lance for being there super quickly and, and pull the towel for being there, too. And helping me out in that? Yeah, that's, I'm glad that you're saying that desert squadron John, he offers trauma kits and things like that. So he said that he's got an idea to talk with Matt Martelly, about maybe after the show or something. But I do think it's cool that you guys are allowing yourselves to be open and honest with the situations because a lot of people would hide it. And I feel like you're helping a lot of people that are going to be watching and listening to the show by explaining your story. So first and foremost, I think you're badass racers. But thank you very much for being good humans in general, because this is a really, really important thing that you guys are doing here. Because you're not just helping yourselves. You're helping everybody else. So I really appreciate you guys doing that. All right, crews so man, you gotta just take a deep breath and just be like, Dude, we had a bad weekend. So what do you think after you're like when you're driving home back to Southern California? Leaving the races like are you sad? Are you happy? Are you like, you know, accountable? Are you going forward to the next race? Like what's the thoughts? Oh, um, we kind of just put our heads down and try to forget about it. What happened and kind of move on from what happened that whole weekend? Then we made a pit stop at Chick fil A. There we go. And, yeah, then we just got home and tried to brush it off. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool. Especially being so young. You kind of just have to move on and like look forward to the next thing right. Bella? What did you think like when you were coming home? Like what are the emotions that you're going through driving because I know you're a little bit more emotional than cruiser is no, it was a bit of a thing, especially as desert being like, you know, your dream. You go and you know, you're in first and you're running good. And this is your race and then something like this happens. Really like takes a toll realize, like, you know, it's a dangerous sport. And it's like without sponsors that support us. And without these well thought out track. It could have been worse. So I'm just I'm glad that we're okay. We're gonna fix the cars and we're getting back at it for sure. He's always repairable. Right. But I like what you're saying is you're seeing the whole picture. You're seeing how much people put into it like a race director, or a race event promoter like Matt Martelly to be able to make it safe for you guys to be able to have extraction points and all of these different things and medical crew and safety and all this stuff. So that means a lot because that means you're looking at the whole picture. So I appreciate that the bearded bomber said, definitely could have been way worse. Collision, we got a little bit sore. I don't know if that's the guys that you guys were with. And then alles photography, I don't know, says these guys were 700 or 100% composed after the crash. I came on them just after it happened. The other racers were really awesome. Despite the situation too. It really shows how tight the community is. And that's exactly what we're talking about. You know, I've been through a lot of shit too. And for me to be able to see that you guys were so respectful. And so understanding of the situation. It really hits me in the heart, because I really appreciate what you guys do. Well, yeah, it's reality. I mean, racing is not perfect. And it's, it's not this hour, it would be without the amount of help that one gives the crazy. Yeah, everybody that's out there, right. Yes, definitely. All right. So what's your guys's plans for the future? Actually, we got looks like we got Matt Martelli on what's up, Matt? How are you? Good. Good. How you doing? Guys? Good. We're pretty good. Good. Hey, first off, I'm really glad that you guys are okay. And I I too want to give you guys props for the way that you handled it. It's really important to us that everybody's safe. But we want young people like you racing with us. Right? It's what's building the future of this sport and culture. Yeah, I couldn't agree more Matt. And the way that they the way that they offered up to share their story and to be out in front of this and to be able to help others is fantastic. Like you couldn't ask anything more from youth racers? No, it's awesome. You guys did a great job. And, you know, I can I can tell you dozens of stories of, of adults crashing vehicles and handling it improperly. So, you know, props to you guys. You know, this is this is gonna make you better racers. It's going to make you better people. And that's what this is about. Right? Like, a lot of people don't understand why we love off road racing so much. And it's because you, you go through a challenge. And you come out the other end transformed every time you do it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you couldn't say that any better. Alright guys, so we're going to talk with Matt a little bit about how he saw the race and what what happened but please, Bella, you go first and then Cruz can go second. Tell us who you're thankful for of the weekend where your sponsors and also the people that were around you. I would have to say West Coast motorsports calm fabrication, Evo power sports, Wind Power Sports, cars, magic switch rows, Motul KMC wheels, Polaris sparkle, these rugged radios RVC boxboro, sway and the lance and Richard Dillon show. My parents, my mom, my dad, especially Shelby Anderson, my brother as my co driver. The Martelli brothers. Thank you for putting on this insane, crazy event. And, George, thank you so much. Yeah, no problem. I cruise where you go. And then we're gonna talk to Matt. Um, so definitely be Brian and Lance. And, and my dad for, you know, building a super safe car and being able to keep us safe and this and the whole pit crew for being there for things that we needed. And when we were thirsty, they had water, food, snacks, the tires when we needed it. That guy is the most important guy man. Definitely is. Well, you guys did a great job. I think your parents did a great job of understanding or giving you guys the understanding of what to do during those situations as well. So alright, we're gonna talk with Matt a little bit here. And thank you guys very much for coming on the show. We'll see you guys at the next race. Yeah, thanks, guys. Man, it's so cool to see that youth being so mature, dude. I mean, how rad is that? Right? Like it? It makes me super excited for our future. You know, I don't know what it was now like six years ago when we started youth racing at at ETV World Championship. You know, we had no idea that, that it would get to what this is now and you know, it's gonna go further. But we've never had this in our sport. You know, it's, it's just awesome. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. All right. So let's, let's change subjects a little bit here and talk about give us a very, very CliffsNotes brief on why you came up with the California 300 That used to be called the UTV World Championship and then we'll move forward into how the race went. Well, it was a combination of a couple of things. One was I have to give a lot of credit to Killian. He was bugging me about looking NAT Loughlin and, you know, we all know how gnarly loft loft was, I'm sorry, look at Barstow. We all know how gnarly Barstow can be. It's true, they call it narzo for a reason, right. And, you know, we, we looked at it, and we realize that, you know, the old fireworks 250 course was still, you know, doable. You know, and, and I would have thought that we would have only been able to put together a 20 mile loop there, and I wasn't interested in that, you know, I want to, I want to put on longer desert races, that, you know, are challenging, but it's stuff that we would want to race, right. So we looked at it and, you know, we're pretty impressed with, you know, what was there, the variety of terrain and the type of terrain we, you know, wasn't flat road, you know, wasn't graded, you know, stuff it was, you know, Rocky, rough, you know, Sandy washes, rally roads, you know, lots of elevation changes, and it reminded me of little pieces of Baja, right, totally, we just had just hammered on I don't know, if you're watching at the same time, but he goes, dude, it was just as rougher, rougher than a Baja 500. Yeah. I mean, it was obviously was condensed. But it was funny, because a lot of people were, we're kind of put back by the, you know, the technicality of the train. And, you know, mainly the truck, guys. And so my answer my question to them was like, hey, is this gnarlier than Simpsons or the summit or the back of mics? And all of them were like, Well, no. And I'm like, Well, okay, that's off road racing then. Right. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, we wanted to put together a more challenging course, because I think that, in many ways that the current state of off road racing is lost a little bit of that. And it's, it's, you know, there's a lot of courses that I think are too easy, you know, especially for UTVs, and, you know, trophy trucks and some of the other capable vehicles, it's like, we want to see those things pushed to their limit, you know, we want to see them challenged, and we want to see them perform. Right. And so hearing you talk on that subject kind of makes me think about some of the conversations that we've had during the show today. And being you know, clearly the track was was gnarly. northstowe. Right. But to contradict that guy said they were going at 90 miles an hour. Yeah. I mean, we, we, here's the irony of it is, you know, part part of why we want to do the pre run is we want feedback, right? I want people to tell me, Hey, you're crazy for doing this, or, you know, it's too easy, or whatever it is, we want feedback, right? And so, after pre running, you know, there, the Be honest, there are people who left. Yeah, you know, and that kind of shocked me, because that is the opposite of what this culture is about. This culture is about, you know what? It's gnarly, good. Right? It's gonna be hard. Because if you get to that finish line, you've you've earned something, right? That's. So it's not the same. It's not the same track conditions. But I have the same context, right? So in short course, racing, the tracks graded, I mean, it's just nice and smooth, right? But I always used to tell everybody, because like Lake Elsinore one time, I heard from probably 10 or so racers on the gate, dude, it's too rough, they got to get out there and graded with the tractor. And I thought to myself, like, dude, the gnarlier, the better, like, give me more like, let the track not be graded during the day and give me the gnarliest possible track, you could on the main event, and I will be more appreciative of that. Because that shows a skill set, it shows what your car can do and shows prep, it shows all these different things. And that's kind of what you brought to the table. Yeah, and there's also a reality to it of like, a lot of it is mental, right? And you you see something and you're not used to it and whatever. And you have to push you have to throw yourself into the fray. And here's my point, you know, and I'm just gonna go ahead and say this, the guys who left right, there's a 14 year old girl who's raised one other desert race, you know, Roland McGrath, and she finished the race. Right? And her car isn't, you know, the super gnarly car. You know, it's a well built car, but like, you know, did she go and set Trophy Truck times? No, but she did it and she finished? Yeah, you know, so. I think a lot of it is his comfort zone. It's mental. And I think that I think that you know, most of the current races and off road are too easy. Well, let's get real quick here field motorsports. that the course was epic and not to change subjects. But Muscarella heart said, thank you very much George for what we do for the kids and letting them understand how to be better human beings, I think it's a fantastic way to look at it. Because everything that we're talking about has a underlying human component, right? The stuff that Matt's talking about the people that do want to race, the people that don't want to race, everybody has their own choices and opinions. And I think that's a very, very good thing for anybody an off road, but make sure you do exactly what Matt said, Speak up, let people know. And let us understand what you want, what you don't want, how to be a better person, whatever it is that you think please tell somebody. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I, I think that's what makes this particular form of motorsport so special is that, you know, you, you go in on the front end, and you come out on the back end transformed, because you just put yourself, your family, your crew through something that is the closest thing to a war simulation that civilians can get do not really that you say that, but that's true. The Shock Therapy guy says, Yeah, bring on all the hard, hard courses. Well, that turns on part of our, our brain in our bodies that, you know, isn't being turned on in front of a computer. Yep. Right. And it's like you under start understanding that our genetics aren't a 2000 year lag. And what what were what were our ancestors doing 2000 years ago, they weren't sitting in a chair in a desk. They were being gnarly fighting for food. Right. So we're going to do that, and obviously a reasonable way. And, you know, to be clear, our goal isn't to make courses that are so crazy that nobody can finish. We want to make it hard enough to where, you know, you get to that fourth lap and you're like, Okay, I do not want to go another lap. Yeah, exactly. I think Dave Cole does a pretty good job of making courses that people can't finish because cameras is so gnarly. 100% I give all props to David Cameron. I mean, it's, I remember, you know, him showing us what he was doing the beginning and I I couldn't wrap my head around. It was like, You're, you're gonna drive guides up a mountain. It's not gonna work, dude. And clearly I was wrong, you know? Yeah. But he's a badass for putting it all together. All right, so let's talk about a couple different things here that I wanted to ask him first, what was your favorite part of the weekend? Or the weeks you know, there's not. There's not one thing. There's a lot of things and it's funny because like, you know, me and my whole team, my brother. We're on like war mode. We're like operating and we're, it's super intense. You know, we're barely sleeping. You know, we're doing things physically that we don't do all year. I mean, I can't tell you right now, how broken and sore I am. From, you know, pounding steaks and pulling steaks out and yeah, for four to six weeks before the event I can only imagine. Yeah. And like, you know, and Cavs exploded and, you know, everything's gonna go wrong. And you just got to push through it. But we have an amazing crew. Lot of volunteers who are amazing and, and staff and then a lot of people that help us so, man, there's a lot of things, okay. So, you know, Justin Lambert just said, Matt and our tele dude, for sure. Well, you know, like, and having relationships, like, Look Cognito Justin has had a lot of challenges lately, and to see him come out, and you know, perform at the level we know that he can perform that was special. You know, I love I love high fiving people handing him a beer and a taco at the finish line and be like, that was good. You know, you you earned that. Right? It tastes good. It feels good. You know? And, you know, when you go back in the regular world, and somebody goes, Well, what did you do this weekend? You're, you just laugh. You're like, I can tell you but you're not going to get it right here. That's exactly not to get off subject but that's exactly the problem I had in high school. I was a professional dirt bike racer. And people looked at me like I was an idiot because they're like, what, like, what is this? Do do like I have zero idea of what it's all about. He doesn't throw a football. I don't know. Yeah, you do the ball that takes or you do the sport that takes two balls. Yeah, I know that. There's lots of special moments and they're funny. It's like, you know, everything from having Cade Mac, you know, races very first, you know, Trophy Truck Race with us. Or unlimited truck, whatever you want to call it. That was special, you know, and it was always, you know, I go back with his his data a long time and you know, his dad is the goat his dad is our Michael Jordan and I'm really really impressed with how quickly Caden has assured. Yep. You know, I mean, it's crazy to think like four years ago that this kid was at zero racing experience. And, you know, I would have said, hey, it's gonna take 10 years for him to get up to speed. And he's, he's up to speed man. Yeah, you know, it's wild. How he had he had had, you know, correct information on, you know, where the clubhouse he's where, you know, he may have won the race? Who knows? Do you still have fantastic performance no matter how you look at it. Amazing. Yeah. And then, you know, other stuff, there's all sorts of funny little things that that happen the kids, you know, seeing the kids come up and get their, you know, get their finisher medals and, you know, spray the, the the sparkling apple cider, right? And then there's one kid who goes, Hey, can I get a finisher beer? If my dad comes over and gets it? I'm like, sure. You know, what I mean? You know, so lots of stuff. And then, you know, other things that are kind of like funny that people some people notice and don't notice, but we had a friend of mine, Jesse Hughes. He was he's the lead singer of eagles death metal. And, you know, I kind of casually said, Oh, we don't have a Grand Marshal. And he goes, I'll be a grand, I'll be the Grand Marshal. So he he waved the green flag, you know, for the unlimited trucks, and then put it all over his social media to try and bring attention to, you know, to what we're doing. So, you know, and then other funny stuff, like, you know, pulling all the fencing yesterday with my whole crew and, and getting to that last, that last post and you pulled it out, and you're like, that actually really wasn't that bad. Right. Right. But it's also a meaningful situation, right? Because you're like, wow, look at what we just did. Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's important for people to understand that we just, we just brought, you know, there's a lot of good operators in the area of Barstow, there's, you know, more. Namely, you know, Cody does a great job. You know, he's been hustling his ass off and putting on great races. But, you know, we're here to do major events. And Barstow is part of the history of off road racing. It's where I went as a kid to, you know, see major desert races with the, with the fireworks. 250. And, you know, it's important that we have a major race, you know, besides king of the hammers. In Southern California, this is where the culture is started. funny that you say that with my, my off road maturity doesn't go back back as far as years. And I actually had a conversation with Rob Mac, when he was sitting in Caden Mac's truck before qualifying. And he goes pretty nostalgic, man, he's like, it's pretty cool to be back out here. He's like, I don't know if that how the drag is gonna be, but it's still cool. Well, when you when you rolled around, like, like, one, one thing, that was rad, because I, you know, we didn't have a live stream, but we're hammering out all the social media content and and, you know, and updates that we could, but I wasn't, you know, both you and I were trapped in a booth, right. So I was able to like, like, drive around and look at everything. And there is, you know, 1000s and 1000s of people out in the desert, with their trucks backed up to the course, you know, hanging out having a beer, like the old times, right? Yeah, it was pretty cool to see that man, the vibe was super high. And well, and thank you very much for letting me be a small part of the operation to know it was rad. I mean, it's, it's, that's what I grew up in, right. And that's what I think is, it's important to have that be a thing that continues on with our culture. It's like America is a free country, right. And we operate on BLM land, which is our land, it's your land, right? And we should be able to get in a vehicle and go roam it, and pick out the spot, we want to rock, we want to watch the race, and as long as we're 150 feet back, and we're being safe. And I think for the most part, people respected that we had a few little, you know, kind of knucklehead things that happen as always, where, you know, people are like, oh, there's a race going on. I'm like, Yeah, do you see all the people and everything going on? But it'll get more it'll get bigger and bigger and more notoriety and people know what's going on. So we're really, we're really excited to you know, pulled off the first one, you know, and have the success that we had with with the entries and, and with all the spectators Do you guys have like, we asked the racers these kind of same questions. Do you guys have a like a debrief afterwards and you say we could do this better, and we're going to change this for next year? The next time that the event happens? Yeah. 100% I mean, pretty, pretty detailed, and it's broken down from each division from, you know, from tacking contingency to the course to safety to We even include the debrief with the police, the BLM, who you know are great partners of ours. And everybody. So it's compartmentalised and then kind of looked over as a whole event as well. That's pretty cool, man. So I got to tell you a couple things that happened behind the sidelines, our good friend, Alex straggler brought some some high level people officers and people that work at NTC for or when they got to check things out, I don't know if you got to see them. But phenomenal seeing the smile and what they were looking at on their faces, they were talking about doing some stuff that potentially brings out some of the Army soldiers, veterans, their family, all of these great people that have never experienced off road out to the event because it is in Southern California. So that's a massive win for you guys. We also saw rob from Liko, Mali, he brought out some of his co workers that were from Germany, to come check it out, they have never seen I mean, just the terrain itself, they didn't they were blown away. And then second to that, they got to see the Honda guys pit all of the drama unfold to the races. It was mind blowing to them. So all of these things that happen behind the scenes is phenomenal to be able to see and I'm sure you experienced a lot of that as well. Well, to your point. I mean, that's what's so important about having in California is the accessibility. You know, we love racing in Nevada, you know, we're almost done with the race in Arizona, that we're going to announce here shortly. But California is where it started. You know, and, and it's important that we have something in our backyard, you know, it's it would be like, you know, being an Indianapolis and not having the Indy 500. There, that's our that's our goal. You know, for this event, I think that, you know, year one, we established that, you know, and, you know, we're that's all we're interested in doing is big events that are accessible to spectators accessible to, you know, as far as media goes, but you know, I know like, like, this is a into, I feel like a drug dealer. I know that if, if I can get you to come to the race, and back here, pickup truck up and watch the race, you're gonna be like, well, this is the coolest thing on the planet. Yeah, exactly. I always tell people the same thing before I finished my comments shock therapy guy. So thank you very much for also cleaning up the desert and keeping it clean. So that's something that you'd leave it better than when it when you showed up. So I appreciate that. The sports guy said cow 300 is the most fun you can legally have in California. Awesome job, of course, was definitely gnarly. Right. You know, that's, you know, I gotta give a lot of credit for the desert cleanup to clean desert with Adam fibbin. He ran that whole thing for us. We just, you know, added some horsepower to it. But it was it was amazing. We had a few 100 people show up the weekend before and help us pull 10 tons of trash out of that area. You know, so it's really important to us that we show the world that we are responsible land users and that, you know, I'm an off roader. I don't want to see trash I drive around. And the whole point of getting off the pavement is getting away from that stuff, you know? Yeah, exactly. I mean, how pissed Are you and you pull over the side of the freeway, you got to take a leak and you just see a freakin mountain of trash dude, it's so sucky. Well, a couple things that I want to say, and we'll kind of wind this thing down is, first and foremost, thank you very much for putting on the event whether it was called the UTV World Championship, the California 300, the mint 400, any of these names are big events. I appreciate that. Because, again, I appreciate being a small part of it. But the growth and the expansion of off road is what we all care about, right? It's our love. It's our passion. So that in itself is a massive win to me that we're offering this up, and we're getting more people involved. And we're showing the Germans and all of these different people that you can actually come out and do this stuff. So kudos to you for doing that. And putting in all the hard work, you probably can't walk very good today, but thank you very much for sacrificing for us. No, it's all good. I love this. And I'm really proud of, you know, what we, you know, me and my brother and my cousin and our entire team, you know, have have done and you know, like tell you like this is just the beginning of it, where we have a very clear path on, you know, what, what the value is, but also what what we're, you know, how we're gonna grow this, you know, and how we're gonna bring it to major markets and that look, the UTV World Championship is always going to be a part of the California 300 You know, it's our biggest class. We have a lot of love for the UTV racers and the evolution it was really cool to see that this was the first race at the the players pro RS one Yeah, it was pretty cool to see that oh, and I got a bunch of hatred already for saying this landrush Dart was my favorite part, but I'm still gonna stick with that. Okay. All right, it's all good. I just, we knew the conditions of the track. And we wanted to spread people out so that they had somewhat of a, you know, an opportunity to race. Right. And that was, that was the other thing that we were really excited about this course was that, you know, it's a tough course. Right? There's a lot of passing. And you know, that I would say, comparing it to the main course, like that's the biggest flaw of the men course is that, because we've raced the same course so much. There's, you know, TV size boulders hidden behind every bush. And so stepping out is super risky at the men, you know, in Barstow, you know, we allowed, you know, a lot of opportunities for people to pass and that's recent. I agree. 100%. Let me see if x I was looking for the grabowsky brothers just commented in before I read their comment, why don't you guys jump in? I don't know who's managing the Instagram, but you guys can jump in real quick. And we got about five minutes or so we can just congratulate the guys but he said thank you very much for a great race, man. Hey, is he supposed to say that he won, he's gonna be happy no matter what. Right? Well, I mean, let's give these guys props. Right? Absolutely. They moved up the ladder system, their, their, you know, their families, their dads been racing, uncles, etc. And, you know, they got they got, you know, the the trophy trucks back and, you know, they've done well, they won their class and King hammers but like to come out on this course, and do all the unlimited cars, you know, and, you know, really, even though it's, it's it's Caine's first race to beat him. You know, I mean, people out there that don't understand. I mean, it's, it's, they don't have the same horsepower. It's not the same. It's not the same vehicle. They're similar, but there is different and especially, you know, Troy, he, that was his first drive in that truck. You know, his his brother Dusties. He's a savage, you give that guy a friggin rental car, and he's gonna go. But, you know, so, you know, again, that was really cool to like, one of the things I really love about doing this is like, you know, when guys don't race or, or, or what have you? And, you know, you just don't know who's gonna win. I as a promoter. Yeah, I look at this. And they're like, Well, yeah, who do you think's gonna win? I can go back to every race that we've done. And, and I'm like, Well, okay, probably the only ones that I'm like, Oh, well, yeah, it's Rob Mac. Right. But other than that, you know, every race that we promoted, I'm like, not, I didn't pick Justin Lofton or I didn't pick, you know, yeah, it's a crapshoot. Yeah. And so that was I think, to me, personally, that was what was cool about this is seeing that all unfold and going like, oh, a spec truck just beat all the unlimited trucks. And, you know, they deserved it. They drove pretty wild dude. Yeah. Congratulations to them. I saw you on the podium with those guys. Jim Beaver obviously talked to them as well. David neveress, from race safely, also just said or motorsport safety solution said as a spectator, he loves landrush as a safety guy. It's allowed me one last anxiety attack with the time starts so good. Let's see. Whoever's operating the group ASCII brothers racing is not a group ASCII brother. But anyways, yeah, so it's cool to see. And from a safety standpoint, we also want to thank David and his whole whole team at motorsports safety solutions, because they kept everybody safe. out there. So it was just really cool to see the event unfold. And man, I mean, if you got anything else to say, otherwise, we can just wind this down because it was a good time. I you know, listen, I want to thank all the racers, all the volunteers, all the staff, all the sponsors, because we're in wild times right now. And, you know, the fact that we're able to pull off races is is, you know, a freaking miracle. You know, and and, you know, gas prices and, you know, economic troubles and all this kind of stuff, but it just shows you how strong the culture is. Right? And I can tell you that this race will be bigger than the men in a couple of years. You know, it's the right terrain. It's the right location. It has that that history and that legacy and, you know, the city of Barstow and everybody they're all the businesses I mean, you know, I mean, like, yeah, I literally like talk to CJ from you know, from You know from Del Taco and I'm like, here's what we want to do. And he's like, he was texting me going like, well, I want to keep them warm. When they're getting close. Yes. Right. And so I'm like, I'm stressing out, I'm like, they're coming in do they're coming in, bring the tacos. And it worked out and you know, big props to Del Taco Bell, Team beaver beer, you know, they made all the beer, you know, all the brands that support us. You know, you can go down the list. It's all on the website. Yep. It just, you know, we couldn't do it without them. And for them to believe in in something that's never been done for. Like the last time there's a there's a major racer was 23 years ago with a fireworks 250 Oh, it was that long ago. Holy crap. Yeah. So for for the brands to believe in us. And the vendors to that that was the other thing is like, you know, they're like, What are you doing? And I'm like, we're going to scrape a piece of dirt. I guarantee you, there's going to be people there. And they all they all stepped up and believed in us. So I appreciate that. And there's more to come. Just, it's gonna get bigger. Yeah, well keep up the good work, dude. Like, I know, that's no small feat. It takes an army to do all this stuff. So we appreciate everything that you do for the off road community. And, man, it was just a good week overall. So thank you very much. We're gonna end and the show real quick here. So yeah, man, I'll see you soon. Let's go grab some more tacos. Let's do it. I appreciate it. Thanks, George. Yeah, thank you, Matt. Really, really appreciate it. Alright, guys. 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