The Dirt Life
The Dirt Life
Visions Recap - Cowboy Cerrone, Miller Bros, Chase Carr, Bella Birchard, & More
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What happens when you mix off-road racing with Barbie Jeep Racing, bull riding, and concerts by Tim Montana? You get an adrenaline-packed event at Vision's in Mid-America Offroad Park in Oklahoma! We had a blast chatting with our off-road racing friends Cowboy Cerrone, Hunter and Cody Miller, Gray Kelly, Josie Watkins, and Chase Carr about their experiences at this incredible event. From mental preparation to overcoming nerves, we dove deep into the world of off-road racing and the camaraderie that exists among these fierce competitors.
Bella shared her weekend racing adventures on the Volkswagen track, discussing the support from her family and pit crew and the friendships she's built with her fellow youth racers. We also got to know the talented Josie Watkins and her journey in the Pro Stock class, as well as the challenges faced by Hunter and Cody Miller, Gray Kelly, and Chase Carr on the Qualify track in Oklahoma. As we navigated through stories of laughter and pushing limits, our guests revealed the importance of adapting to changing track conditions and learning from the professionals.
Don't miss this exhilarating episode as we uncover the fun and excitement of off-road racing with our amazing guests. We explore the electric atmosphere at Vision's in Mid-America Offroad Park, the intense racing action, and the lessons learned from pushing boundaries on the track. Join us for a thrilling ride as we celebrate the world of off-road racing and the friendships that make it such a unique and unforgettable experience. Tune in now and let the adventure begin!
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Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George Hamill.
Speaker 1Yeah, we are live. Welcome to episode 161 of the Dirt Life Show. We are at Coin Power Sports today for a vision's recap. To my left, I got the co-hosting shortener, Bella Beshard. What's up, girl?
Speaker 3Not much just hanging around Man.
Speaker 1It's going to be so cool to have this show today. First and foremost, I want to say thank you very much to everybody at Coin Power Sports. You can see they even got move your head a little bit. You can see the little kid side by side right behind us. I'll trolley it out. So if you guys have any ease to buy any new cars or dirt bikes or anything like that, cruise down to Coin Power Sports. We're at the location in Banting. They also have a location over in El Centro, So go ahead and say hi to Todd and all the guys at Coin Power Sports here in Banting, Travis and all the guys over there in El Centro.
Speaker 1We're going to get Cowboy Saroni on today to talk about his week of visions in the Volkswagen. That looks super fun. We're going to talk to Hunter and Cody Miller. Hopefully Hunter can join us He was saying he was going to try as hard as he can and the winner, Kyle Chaney, He's going to join us as well. And Bella, you brought on three guests of your own right. We're going to get some youth going. Who are they?
Speaker 3Gray Kelly in the 170 class And I got Josie Watkins in the women's representing the women, and then Chase Carr.
Speaker 1Don't forget yourself too. We're going to talk a little bit about your race too, so that's going to be pretty cool. We're going to get Cowboy Saroni on in just a second here, but before we do that, let's go through some of our sponsors. So first I'd like to thank Maxis Tyres for being such an integral part of the show. They've been including us in a lot of their promotions and different things that they've been doing, so thank you very much, chris Meyer and everybody over at Maxis. And we share some sponsors. Bella, yeah, we do. Who's next?
Speaker 3We'd love to thank KMC Wales for being the best in the industry. Head down to your local forward parts or ORW to get some of that And Motul. they have the best products out there, always keeping you look fresh and hooking you up.
Speaker 1Yeah And dude, the oil is so crucial in the summertime, especially with all the heat and this. If you get down here and buy one of these UTVs or any of these vehicles from Quinten Power Sports, put some quality Motul oil in there. Thanks to the guys over at JL Audio for being a part of the show. We will probably see you guys at the JL Audio booth at the Sand Sports Super Show coming up here just before Dinn season. Thanks to the guys over at Shock Therapy. We really appreciate all them. Justin and all those guys had a test session today, So hopefully everything's going good out there. All right, who's next?
Speaker 3Thank you to everyone at Evolution Power Sports, the most loyal company over here with the most powerful products. So go hook them up.
Speaker 1Yeah, check those guys out. They're making some serious power. They're actually doing watercraft stuff too, So go check all that out for your summer fun. Thanks to the guys over at Zollinger Racing Products, You can use the code at that dirt life. Give yourself some tie rods and radius rods. Match up with your Shock Therapy Steering Rack. All that good stuff. Thanks to the guys at Vision Canopies And we got a new sponsor of the show.
Speaker 1This is a little bit of self promotion for George. We actually are starting a streaming service, Starscream, And basically what it does is we want to grow this board of off road So you can stream from any vehicle at any time with a Starlink dish and a couple GoPros in your car. So thanks to the Starscream Pro and all the guys that have helped me establish that organization, we're really excited to get that going and we will keep you guys updated on all that stuff. Okay, so the basis of the show Bella, everybody was at Vision's yesterday or, excuse me, last week. Yes, And that's in Mid-America Offroad Park in J Oklahoma, right? Okay, so what was the whole deal? It was like a huge event.
Speaker 3Oh, it was insane. There was Barbie Jeep Racing and a bunch of other stuff. The river, It was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1There was always something going on, Yeah what was your favorite part about the whole week? Because I heard there was so much stuff to do.
Speaker 3I would say the concerts were probably the best. The music was pretty cool, always kept everyone rowdy. There was bull riding, which was crazy to see. Yeah, it was pretty rad, pretty intense. You're always on your tiptoes.
Speaker 1Always on your tiptoes is an understatement, right, because there's racing all over the place. They had Natural Rally Christ there too, so Travis Pastrana brought all of his crazy crew out there. I saw they did like a backflip, you know? Yeah, i was pretty rad, dude. that's wild, right, yeah. And then they have some other stuff too, like concerts and different events, right, like what was going on.
Speaker 3I know there was Tim Montana, a cowboy singer, and stuff like that. There was a lot of other cool things, but I don't know. It was definitely crazy. They had a whole schedule with a bunch of stuff, that everything was hour by hour of what they were doing.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Oh, they had it all listed out, it was all lined up.
Speaker 3They had you ready to go doing one thing after another.
Speaker 1Yeah, there you go, okay. So Travis Pointer said, yeah, nitro Cross, yeah, all right. So we'll see if we can get Cowboy to come on in just a little bit here. Hi, brooklyn, how are you Tell Dustin Jones? Oh sorry, they're in the airport, is what Dustin Jones is saying. So hopefully they can get logged on here in just a little bit. We'll get our fingers crossed, keep our fingers crossed, all right. So one of the things that I like best about off-road racing in general, bella, is the youth, right, like you're sitting here next to me because you want to learn a little bit about broadcasting and kind of getting yourself out there more. But you're, truthfully, an off-road racer. Yeah, same, right. So you're both, and that's what I love most. And a lot of the people and a lot of the kids that are going to come on today are the same, and there was like hundreds and hundreds of kids out there. You must have been so hyped.
Speaker 3No, the 170 class was stacked with like 20 or 30 cars, which is crazy to me, but especially like the little girls in there, women representing the whole industry is. it makes me really proud.
Speaker 1Yeah it's kind of cool to see them. I'm like especially to have a place like Mid America Off-Road Park that like really opens the floodgates to having everybody show up. What did they say? Like if you build it, they will come. Yeah, like that's basically what they did, right. So yeah, it is cool. We're going to wait and give cowboy and Dustin just a little bit of time here. They said the airline canceled their flights. That's terrible. Right Way to mess up the dirt life show.
Speaker 1Oh I know guys Who knows what airline it is, though. Right, But thank you guys for hanging out with us. What are some of the cool things that you saw happen Mostly in the youth classes this week or this last week There?
Speaker 3was a lot of competition. I didn't really realize how aggressive these kids were until I saw them start driving. What do you?
Speaker 1mean Like bumping and banging.
Speaker 3Yeah, they bump and bang and then my favorite part is they get out and they're just best friends right after. Like they don't, it's still good on and off the track. You know, i think those things totally separate, which I love.
Speaker 1I feel like we need to carry that vibe into like grown up racing, like don't be a dick when you get out of the car. Right, let's see. Travis Pointer said pilots are busy watching dirt life show. Yeah, they need to hang up on the dirt life show and get cowboy Seroni on over here. Looks like we don't have them just yet. Hailey, yeah, bella's killing it, dude, i appreciate Bella coming and spending her time here. Hey, so fun fact Bella is what 16 now? Yes, i am. She drove by herself here last time she came to help me close the dirt life show Mom had to bring you, so does it feel good?
Speaker 3No, it feels really good. I'm pumped.
Speaker 1I'm pumped to be on the road, Did you Well? so I was going to ask that question about being on the road. Did you get to help drive it all with the bus and the trailer?
Speaker 3No, no, no, that's my dad's job. I was sleeping. I was in the back snacking Netflix.
Speaker 1Oh, racers got to get rest. That's it. Excuse me, that's hilarious dude. All right, michelle, prince Car is joining us and thanks, michelle for hanging out with us. Yeah, so I really wish I was there at Mid America. I think it was something that I really missed. I get to go over there in a couple of weeks actually to do some testing in some Honda vehicles, so that'll be pretty fun. But I'm still jealous that you guys got to go there, because I wanted to go on the Lazy River and I wanted to eat tacos with everybody And I really wanted to watch some of the racing, mostly because I want to see the like the layout of the park. Brian Atkison, who you know that helps with the Outlaw series or operates Outlaw series, is now helping with Mid America. He was telling me that the facility has a bunch of different tracks. Is that right?
Speaker 3Yes, they do.
Speaker 1So what were some of the different tracks? So I know they had Nitro Cross and then what else?
Speaker 3They had Nitro Cross, they had R-Track. There was the UTV track. Yeah, the UTV track. There's Pipike tracks. I know there's an RC car track. There's a lot of different. There was like RC car national right. Yes, it was crazy to see all these grown men with little controllers.
Speaker 1Dude, they get hot and bothered too, like they get really angry.
Speaker 3It's great, it's intense.
Speaker 1Did crews go over there and check them?
Speaker 3out? They probably did. knowing him, he was everywhere Oh. I see Did they have a Pipike race? Yes, they had a Pipike race. I unfortunately did not participate.
Speaker 1What do you mean? fortunately or unfortunately?
Speaker 3Unfortunately I wanted to, but I just got new tees. I don't want to break them.
Speaker 1Dude, yeah, you definitely don't want to do that, and Pipbikes will do that to you.
Speaker 3They will.
Speaker 1They throw you down pretty easy, right, yeah Yeah. And then there was some good racing too. So I think, from what I saw at least, that that track really lends itself very well to a lot of different option lines. So give us a little bit of a breakdown of actually we'll go into your racing, but give us a little bit of a breakdown of the tracks and what you got to experience, and then we'll talk about your racing.
Speaker 3So we got to experience the UTV track. It is a super laid out, super clean track. They have everything really put together. It did change over the last few years that I've been there. So this is my third year at Visions, but yeah.
Speaker 1Dude, you're local, yeah.
Speaker 3I hope so. I hope I become local.
Off-Road Racing and Camaraderie
Speaker 1So it was a really like. When I want to go race a track and I've raced a bunch of different tracks in my life I always look for the best racing conditions in the track, and I don't mean like a perfectly watered or groomed track, i mean like a track where you have options like you go outside, you go inside, you have passing lines. Did I have that?
Speaker 3Yes, they did have that. There was plenty of different type of driving styles that you could have used on this track.
Speaker 1Which I think is cool. So did you have some pretty good battles.
Speaker 3Yeah, Yeah, I had some pretty good battles, I'd say, especially in the expert class, more of an aggressive kind of tone. It was really cool, Yeah. So what classes did you race? So I raced women's NA and placed second. And then I raced no expert NA and then placed seventh overall.
Speaker 1Dude, really Yes, were you getting it?
Speaker 3or what. It was pretty intense, some of the best racing I've done.
Speaker 1Really Yeah, so you must be pretty proud of yourself. Good job, thank you. So what was the? you know, i don't know if you ever heard me say it, but like when you're in the zone, like you're in this, like tunnel, and you just like you're driving behind the wheel and you just all you can think about is a race and you feel like you're like, oh my gosh, i could put this car within an inch. Like, is that the zone you were in?
Speaker 3Yeah, it was crazy Pushing the car to with limits and not worried about anyone behind you. It was really intense, but some of the coolest driving.
Speaker 1Did you have some good battles with people?
Speaker 3Yeah, I actually did. Yeah, Josie Watkins actually the real hit is coming on to the show. She was in first right in front of me, So it was cool chasing after her.
Speaker 1Is she a really good driver, jess?
Speaker 3Yes, She's super talented, very good car. Very excited to talk to her.
Speaker 1So when you see a girl like that racing, are you like okay? well, if she's a little bit better than me, i'm not going to get pissed. I'm going to try to elevate my game and like, keep up with her.
Speaker 3It definitely pushes you as a driver and as a person too, like it's really cool to see someone above you so you know you can do the same.
Speaker 1That's exactly the way that you learn good too, because you have an open mind and a clear perspective. Yes, that's going to be awesome. So, from the beginning of the weekend until the end of the weekend, if you were going to put like a percentage ratio on it, like 10%, 20%, how much faster do you think you went on the last lap compared to the first lap?
Speaker 3I would say about 30% to 40% faster. Really that much. Yes, that's insane. I haven't been really driving the RS1 lately So I had like kind of a year, maybe half a year, break. So it was pretty like crazy to like go from nothing to everything, but I really, i really pushed myself.
Speaker 1And what about your family and everybody and all your friends and the pit crew and stuff that was helping support you? Were they like wow, bella, you drove fantastic?
Speaker 3Yeah, no, I had Kinley out there. She really helped a lot. My mom, my dad, they all, they all really supported. It was really cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, i'm just saying like for the progress, though, like you guys like do a download of information or a debrief, like on your way home or like after we got GoPro footage going on so we can look back see what lines we took.
Speaker 3I usually compare with my brother, So we know, you know, like what I could do better next year or what I need to, you know, keep it improving and stuff like that.
Speaker 1Did your brother race too? Yes, he did. How did he do?
Speaker 3He raced the pro stock class for the first time with Chase. Oh, really A little nerve wracking.
Speaker 1He's been jumping up quite a bit, But um yeah, I guess coming up to that next level, especially with how competitive that class is, because that's honestly one of the most competitive classes on the track.
Speaker 3Aggressive clean drivers, but aggressive for sure.
Speaker 1Right, but it's everybody that's coming up from the fast kids like dude. I always tell everybody that that's one of the best classes to watch because those kids have such it was so intense And their skill set is like yeah, and their skill sets mind blowing. Sometimes it's like ballet, seeing them both sideways. Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy. And so your brother was stoked on his performance or I'd say he's pretty stoked.
Speaker 3He unfortunately had to fall back due to some mechanical issues. Oh, bummer, yeah, no, he'll get him next time It was. It was really cool watching him, especially Chase too.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly. Well, there's your new friends, josie Watkins. She just joined us as well. So, hi, josie, we'll get you on in just a little bit. Here We're trying to see if we can give Cowboy and Dustin just a little bit more time.
Speaker 1They're stuck at the airport, so we're going to keep our fingers crossed that we can still get them on. If, for whatever reason, we can't, maybe we could do another Instagram live with those guys. What the airlines not screwing them over. So, to continue talking about the, actually what time is it? So we got a five. We got a little bit more time before Hunter and Cody come on. So I think it's really cool that you got to experience all that stuff. But I also want to understand a little bit about how you guys operate your program and the kind of stuff that you saw there, because I always talk about how Off-road is a collaborative effort and just a really good crew of people. Right, right, was there a lot of people that were coming into the pits helping other people with set-ups or broken cars or different things like that That you saw?
Speaker 3yeah, especially the people out there. They're super, super nice, super humble, but it's not something you can do alone. You need a program to help you out, like we. We had a bunch of people helping us out. If this was their job and they saw someone struggling, they would still go help them with their job, if that's just the kind of people we surround ourselves with.
Speaker 1But no offering has such a good camaraderie.
Speaker 3Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1And then one other thing that I want to do is I wanted to go on the lazy river.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, that was, that was the best.
Speaker 2Did you see that jet ski?
Speaker 1guy. He was doing back Oh it was crazy. You know you watch the live or no.
Speaker 3Yeah, yes, i did with the blue and suit and everything. Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 1Really, how does he do it?
Speaker 3It's just with the throttle, it just like flips, or it was a Brian car was telling me that those stand-ups were Built for that.
Speaker 1They it just like pops up.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, you just hit it and it goes dude, that's nuts, okay.
Speaker 1And then I was gonna ask you to like some of the coolest racing, at least that I saw from afar on social media Was two things I saw those electric cars which, with the professional drivers, look Insane cool, and the Volkswagen, yeah.
Speaker 3Yes, so which was?
Speaker 1your favorite out of both of those?
Speaker 3Um, I would have to say the electric cars were they just insane fast. No, they were insane fast and hitting everything like it was effortless It was. it was pretty cool to watch.
Speaker 1How about, like, when they Go into corners and come out of corners, since they have so much power, they really slide in a lot or they get traction.
Speaker 3Um, i would say they kind of slide a lot. There was really no traction, but it was cool watching some of the lines that they took when they were going close to tires and stuff you got some fans came And saying hi to you.
Speaker 1I said then you know these girl at heart, Oh yeah. And then it looks like she keeps trying to join the the live with us three later on.
Speaker 4I know.
Speaker 1It's funny, all right, and then mod kids What's up. So I Wish I was there.
Speaker 3No, it's, it's an experience, experienced.
Speaker 1It takes a lot of yeah, oh time came in, 21 said the electric cars ran on slick. Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 3No, they were. They're pretty insane to watch on slicks.
Speaker 1Really, dude, that's wild. How can they get any traction on dirt on slick? I Wonder if that's on purpose, like by design.
Speaker 3Um, i would say the car, the track was pretty wide enough, you know, just be comfortable. But dude.
Speaker 1Yeah, but that's got to be like peeling out all over the place.
Speaker 3Pretty, some experienced drivers up there.
Speaker 1It was a whole week of racing.
Speaker 3Yeah, pretty much, whether it was RC car racing or pitback racing, some type of racing, even Barbie Jeep racing, really, yes, what the heck is that you get in a Barbie Jeep and you go down this huge hill And whoever hits the water first wins, don't you bite the dust? Oh, it was like people were coming out of the water with blood and coming down their own.
Speaker 1Yeah, Dude, it probably looks like a scary movie at the bottom It was crazy.
Speaker 3It was so crazy people just eating it.
Speaker 1Yes, I would wear a helmet.
Speaker 3Yeah, most of them had helmets and then some of them just straight.
Speaker 1Oh, is it that one thing where they're sliding down the hill? all crazy.
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Dude, I don't know Like you got your moto the next day and you're just going out tearing stuff up people were nuts.
Speaker 3It was crazy.
Speaker 1I mean that is pretty cool right.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1And so we're gonna ask actually, was there any secret lines out?
Speaker 3on course, Not ones that I took. I mean, well, i did take a grass line, but that's about it. On purpose, yes, some purpose. Was it a fast? Yeah, it was fast. I got there. I did what I did.
Speaker 1Oh, there you go. Your mom says she wants to do the Barbie Jeep with Michelle next year.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, it's happening, We're doing it. Hey, you drew Barbie Jeep.
Speaker 1Your mom's gonna get all bloody dude, put a good helmet on your mom. Make sure she doesn't like totally eat crap. You're gonna have to take care of her if she's gonna want to race.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1She's making you wear all the safety gear. You got to make her do it too right. I'll take care of the mom and then as far as, like, the whole week goes, is it a really long, drawn-out process or are they pretty on time with all of the?
Speaker 3events and stuff really on time. They everything's on schedule, especially the practices and races, and you know Stuff gets done when it gets to get done and it is fun and super silly the whole week. But they do take the racing very seriously.
Speaker 1So yeah, it seems like they got a pretty good operation going there And I know it's gonna. I know it's gonna keep growing In terms of. Pointer also said that they're gonna build a new short course track And I forgot what else they said that they were gonna build there. But it sounds like, with all the stuff that they're doing there, it's gonna really start growing and a lot of people are gonna start going there. Yeah, dude, you're gonna have to get What do you want to call it like a vacation or Airbnb house out there that you can stay at they got little Cavits and stuff, so I'm gonna stay in oils.
Speaker 3Yes, like little houses great, they had to go food court tacos.
Speaker 1Dang. So basically you're saying I could just live there.
Speaker 3Yeah, i mean, they have tacos.
Speaker 1So do they have internet, because we could do the show. That's perfect. Oh, actually. So Michelle said that the rain actually messed up the schedule a little bit And there was a tonight tornado warning. I actually did have some of the guys from Maxis actually Messaged in and let us know that there was a tornado warning as well. But, man living in Oklahoma, that's something that you just got to deal with.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was pretty gnarly.
Speaker 1All right. So let's see if we can get. I don't know if Hunter and Cody Miller are already online, but let's get you guys to join real quick and then we get the move forward And then if cowboy and Dustin are able to join, they can. Yeah, there you go. It's a reverse pointer, so that I have starlink and a spot you can use. That's perfect. Dude, did she see old mark Gomez on his freestyle jet ski? Yes, i did. Is that the one we were just talking about? Yes, okay, i'm for sure going to be there for the Barbie Jeep.
Speaker 3See, yeah, it's. It's intense, intense than most some of the races that were going on the problem is, is it's so intense?
Speaker 1because, like they're willing to kill themselves For a car BG?
Speaker 3those seatbelts know nothing, just straight down in this plastic little bin.
Speaker 1I mean. Someone say it's kind of dumb, but I would also say it's pretty gnarly.
Speaker 3Oh, it's you would have to have a lot of guts to be able to get pushed down a hill.
Speaker 1Okay, so what's the odds that your mom bails out at the last minute?
Speaker 3Um.
Speaker 1Or is she? or is she pretty, like if she says if she commits, she's committing?
Speaker 3yeah, i think my mom could commit to do that solid?
Speaker 1Oh, she'll commit Oh because they're gonna vibe off each other.
Speaker 3They're besties. If they just hold hands on the hill, they're good.
Speaker 1You think they're gonna do that? I hope so matching jeeps or you think they're gonna do different jeeps?
Speaker 3matching Gotta be twins. They're their besties.
Speaker 1Would you, would you do it?
Speaker 3Absolutely not.
Speaker 1I know I kind of still feel like I wouldn't because I feel like I would die going down the hill.
Speaker 3We'll live the next day.
Speaker 1Do they have any jumps?
Speaker 3No, it's just literally one steep downhill into a big puddle.
Speaker 1So how fast are you on?
Speaker 3pretty fast.
Speaker 1Is that? hopefully there's no rocks on the puddle.
Speaker 3I don't know this guy was coming out with blood and like a pretty gnarly smile.
Speaker 1You better be standing with the camera at the bottom of the hill. Uh, my sister, Brooklyn got third in your race. You were fast. Yeah Well, that's cool man. So there was a lot of girls racing.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah. No, that was really cool. The women's NA class and turbo class was pretty intense. Um, i love seeing all those drivers out there, so it's really cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, uh, tell us a little bit about, uh, the I don't want to say the logistics of your race, but the uh, how you started your race, um, how I was going in the middle and then how it ended, um so I started off third in the line and I kind of kept my way in and that there was some pretty gnarly flips from some of the girls, which was crazy.
Speaker 3I hope all of them are okay, but um, that made me get in second and then just chasing after josey, making sure I held my line, kept my corners and straights going and then I finished off the race, the women's class in second.
Speaker 1Were there any sketchy moments? Um pretty.
Speaker 3Um, pretty pretty, yeah, sketchy moments for sure.
Speaker 1Is it because you were pushing it past your limit? You think, or.
Speaker 3I, I would say I just there was just sometimes where I could have like chilled out a little bit. But I'm I'm glad with where I ended. I kept the car in one piece and it was ready for the next race. So they were back to back races too.
Speaker 1But oh, back to back, yes.
Speaker 3Yes, i went from women's to expert in less than 30 minutes, but did you get any?
Speaker 1food. No, no, really. So, uh, one thing that I'm proud of you for is, like, that's a hard management pinning with uh, you have diabetes, just like I do like, and so you were able to handle it and be able to get through all that. Yes, and that's a lot of time too, because that's probably a three-hour span that you were able to.
Speaker 1Dude, you're getting a lot better at controlling your stuff, dude, good job. Uh, all right. So I just texted uh text message Cody Miller, hunter Miller and Kyle Chaney, so hopefully they'll jump on here. Otherwise this is gonna be me and you talking about all this stuff, velar Um, and then we can get the kids on in just a little bit. So hopefully we'll get them to jump on. Uh, when you were out there And since you're learning, you're starting to go a lot faster than you were, like, let's just say, a year ago Yeah, um, were you able to know if, uh, like I could make a different tire pressure change? I could make a shock change.
Speaker 1Yeah are you getting that to be that good and in tune with your car, that you know what those things are for the next race?
Speaker 3Yeah, you have to be able to feel out the car and make sure that it's okay. That's what's practice for You know, you go into practice and then I come off the track and I tell my dad and I talk to him And I send him down and tell him everything that I need and stuff.
Short Course Racing and Technical Challenges
Speaker 1So Yeah, it takes work and knowledge but it's it's easy, and then they get back to you and let you know whether it's good, bad or whatever what they changed, how to feel it next time and and get it going.
Speaker 1Hunter Miller. What's up, dude? What's that Dude we're just talking about? uh, mao, are you feeling pretty, pretty sore? So give us a little bit of a rundown why you're feeling sore. Yeah, i do that. Remember how we were talking about how it was a wi-fi last time. I don't think it's the wi-fi, i think it's your speaker on your phone.
Speaker 6Maybe that'll work, maybe that'll work. Anyway, i need to do that. I'm ignoring Uh yeah, there's actually that that can you down down a still line line Going up to a soon it in the first you can easily overshoot you, what it wasn't, and then why last what you had to really check breaks, or you over, jump over a lot of it and I was over Every single Can I go and so I'm soaring out.
Speaker 1Yeah, i can only imagine, plus the short course cars. For anybody that's like watching on the list or watches desert racing is that the short course cars are like, let's just say, nine to 12 inches off the ground and they are sass like. So what hunter's talking about is like You don't almost have time to judge what's coming up next, unless you're like really muscle memory. Uh, all right, hunter, we're gonna try to see if we can get uh uh Kyle chaney on here, so you guys have that time talking together. There's some dude, uh, kyle. Actually, what you should probably do is upgrade your instagram app on your song, because they had an update and instagram sucks. So if you update your app on your phone, you'll probably have an easier time connecting.
Speaker 6Uh, all right, so a point of amateur.
Speaker 1He knows how to drive a can am, but he can't even update his phone. No, no, it's terrible. So give me a little bit of a of a rundown hunter on the uh, uh, the race in itself. So, uh, and I mean, like, how many people were there? Uh, the track, like, does it lend past, lend a good passing, like can you drive different lines? that kind of stuff, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6I want to tell you before this I had no idea. It was like like a man Really, yeah, yeah, i got gosh. That was crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1Dude with Bella and I were just talking about. It's like one of those things like what do they say? if you build it, they will come.
Speaker 6Yeah, that's what I want to go on. I'll know they. Uh, it's not but that I ever summit. I gave some time. I don't plan playing for four years or so and it's absolutely wild. I heard there about three, three, four way. Well, in faith, one, one or 30 out there.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, really they got three stages.
Speaker 6Yeah, you can, yeah, you can imagine. So Out there I see, whenever we're on the side, the side. I know, you know, last last ball thing thing, and when we were there two weeks before, to the side of side, uh, i don't you know if I trip like trip, and by the time and by the time here there was an all last, all way, and then, and then The bottom, and then I, i found the hill where guys were over there. It was like like a whole that I.
Speaker 1Dude, that's so crazy. It's getting pretty cool to see that, though I mean like I always wish they could do it in california, but there's like zero way that would ever happen in california. So it's kind of nice to see. Uh, how far is the j Oklahoma from you guys in texas? Hey, so the content jr media said to take your phone off speaker, i don't think that's even possible on instagram. Yeah, it's like. Well, it's not like, uh, like repeating or like echoing, but it, uh, it's like. I think the repeat or whatever is making it bog out, so we hear only every third word. Do you want to log off and log back in, maybe?
Speaker 2Yeah, let me try.
Speaker 1All right, cool, i'm gonna see if I can get kyle on real quick. Here you go. Do you think it's funny how good of a relationship they all have together, all the yellow and black guys from canam? They just have fun together, right Yeah the whole clean sweep to first thing and third.
Speaker 1I know that's what I like. I texted Uh, why am I forgetting your name? Uh, from canam, valery from canam. I texted her and I go, dude, they all look the same. Like, how am I supposed to box? How am I supposed to tell who's who right? Yeah, uh, kyle chaining. Dude, you got to update your instagram app. Bro, figure it out, go to your app store and your phone and update your instagram app And then we'll get you on buddy. I texted you to do it too, so we're gonna give you crap when you get on the show.
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Uh, kody weller should join too. Kody bailed on us last time, though, so i'm gonna have to give him some crap. Let's get to the races last time. Uh, it is kind of crazy, though that what like if we're not serious now that hunter was talking about um, kind of over shooting stuff, and what I get from that, being an x professional short course racer as well, is He was pushing really hard, yeah, because the pace was so fast, like keeping up with Kyle chaney or staying in front of his brother. Could you feel some of that pressure too, with the drivers of you around, like I can't make a mistake or I got to go that much faster, like I have to push myself?
Speaker 3you really have to stay with them. There's a matter of seconds or else, like you know, you start falling off. It's, it's super intense.
Speaker 1Was it hard for you to do that? because that's sometimes difficult to manage in your head.
Speaker 3Um, women's na and expert na they're both, like, have different aggressions for each class. So I had to really, like you know, calculate some of the jumps. Like the rhythm section was one, two, three. So if I wanted all three to be good, i had to calculate the first one correctly So the rest could kind of fall into place, you know really Yes, That's kind of wild right. Yeah, no it's. It's crazy.
Speaker 1You got some gnarly footwork on the pedals, but Yeah does it make you feel like you're getting better or does it make you feel frustrated, like how does it make you feel when you're not?
Speaker 3gonna try to not have like a hot head, It's like a hot temer or anything like that. You know like you gotta keep breathing, keep calm and Just think.
Speaker 1But yeah, i guess you're right. Like that's a It's a hard thing to handle, like and I talk about this in life in general is like Growth and being open to that growth. Like it takes a while and you have to really be open and have an open perspective To be able to learn how to do all that.
Speaker 3Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1All right. Well, i don't know what's going on with with Kyle Cheney's With his Instagram. We'll see if we can get hunter Miller on. Uh, how about now? Oh, dude, that's so much better, really. Yeah, like it sounds perfect now, instagram, instagram, oh, perfect. There you go. I don't know what's going on with Kyle's, though. Uh, i don't know. Maybe we need to update our Instagram app or something, but it doesn't seem like Kyle can get on, so Yeah, it's not very smart, Very smart.
Speaker 1Uh, what about your brother? Did he bail on us? Also not very, also not very smart. Do you think he's out fishing, or what I don't know.
Speaker 6I'm here to be late today, though, so Uh, uh.
Speaker 1So I got a message from trevis pointer. He said there was 287 entries for short course and over 570 racers for all of the events. That's pretty sick.
Speaker 6You have your imagine it two years ago stand 287 at a full first race.
Speaker 1No, absolutely not like dude. I remember a luke's professional days like we were stoked if we got like I don't know, let's just say 50 to 60 like yeah, like Dude, that's wild man.
Speaker 6You know in 2020 how long we were at tax planks. Why broke 100?
Speaker 1Yeah, this is.
Speaker 3I remember that.
Speaker 1And this is, let's just say, triple that.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, no way it grew.
Speaker 6Dude that's wild, the big, big good system on a spec status They had there. Well, did they have a lot? Oh, i'm telling you, george is like one of those places you can't describe on it, just have to see it.
Speaker 1Yeah, i definitely want to get out there. Um, i do get to go out there. I got to go out there in a couple weeks, but it's not for a race. So, um, it'll be interesting to go out there and at least see it. Maybe I'll get to have some fun driving around that place a little bit. Um, what's the next big race that's over there?
Speaker 5I think there's another.
Speaker 6They're in America. Short course in the end at Iwawa.
Speaker 1Oh, here we do. Now Kyle's coming up with excuses. He's at Crandon, he doesn't have enough internet, uh-huh.
Speaker 6I'll back it.
Speaker 1I'll back it, that is true. Well, that's awesome because he makes plans for the Dirt Life show, so it makes me feel really apart. But there, well, at least thanks for you being solid. You know what's funny, though, bella, he's the only one that was honest with me and said I don't know if I'll be able to join, and then he's the only one So far, yeah, so far. Even Cowboy and Dustin bailed on us too, because their airlines screwed them at the airport right now. So you're solid, dude. Yes, you're solid. Now we're going to ditch you for the kids in a little bit. Was it cool to see actually the kids racing? Because Bella got a bunch of kids to come on the show tonight?
Speaker 6It was non-starred. It's race space there the whole time. They have quite a few to get to glasses, so that's what it's got hard for me to keep up with, but I know every single one of them is full and it's some good race, i'm sure it Yeah.
Speaker 1I love seeing the kids, man. That's like one of the best things. And you know what we were talking with Bella about right now, Hunter and you've gone through this in your professional career is she's at one of those stages where she can see herself going from, like, let's just say, the novice class to the intermediate class, to the expert class, And those steps are very, very distinct when you're that young, right Like, and she noticed that she was like about what'd you say 30% or so faster at the end of the week or at the end of the week compared to the beginning of the week, So like, when I hear stuff like that, it makes me so excited.
Speaker 6Oh, absolutely, i mean, of course, at her age, like you're progressing really fast. Yep, when you get to my age, you're just like trying to pipe her in.
Speaker 1Well, we were just talking about that, though, because, like you and all the guys right Like you, guys are at the top level at side by side racing, and the speed and the I don't know the time differences are so minimal. The speed is so fast that that was the reason that you had to push so hard during your race and overshoot that jump is because you're trying to make up those milliseconds Like that's bonkers. That side by side racing has gotten that gnarly.
Speaker 6Yeah And my, I felt like qualifying quite a bit soon.
Speaker 1What happened at Qualify?
Speaker 6We went out and I went out, made about half of what happened when I was in the Georgia circuit And, oh crap, i had to go straight back to that and even make a lap, so I had to start dead long.
Speaker 1No way, really. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good, dude, that sucks, but you made it all the way up to the second place, so yeah well, I don't know, I came up with it before And, yeah, even had some spin outs and dropped along the way and but ended up fourth in that moto.
Speaker 6And then second moto got second, mine, mine, so six, two got me second over all. Everybody kind of had me.
Speaker 1So oh, yeah, and they do moto style format there. huh Yeah, i actually really liked that Cause. then you get a chance for redemption. You don't just go out there and blow your wad in the main event. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think I would like it both ways. You know, if it's going to be two day events, I think the motors format school, but I also think a main event on Saturday and a main event on Saturday will be awesome too. You know, that way you have double chances to win.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly, all right. So I'm going to show a little video here to yourself and to the audience And I'm going to ask, since your brother's not here, to defend himself. He said I'm not about his line choices Like he's got a secret line here And then look at the next video, like, and this is all by your media guy as well, so another secret line. Look at that.
Speaker 6Right through the middle If you go back, so you can see how strong it is coming down that hill, because they do.
Speaker 1But that was actually the sickest line though, because like he executed that pretty much perfect, like I don't think there's any better way to execute it than the way that he did.
Speaker 6So yeah, you can see it's kind of using the inside tire like going to burn.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, he's getting traction.
Speaker 3He's using all of the track.
Speaker 1Look at how flat sideways he got towards the bottom of it too. So anybody that's going to.
Speaker 6That was pretty sick though right, and that section is kind of weird. I don't want to. You know they meant for it to be a split lane, but you actually kind of the outside leads you into jumping that sideways, so sweet.
Speaker 1Was that one of the ones that was heard in your back?
Speaker 6Nah, that one does, so just some video of it later. But yeah, you come down and still and we're actually chatting about that later because they just kind of figured out what was my boosted risk But when we looked at it, my GPS speed coming down, i was right at on.
Speaker 1But do you have a lot of G-forces, then Oh yeah, yeah, like you're coming down sideways.
Speaker 6And then in the bottom there was a huge hole that if you hit it, i mean it would now slip down.
Speaker 1Oh really. So you must have been hitting some serious G-forces. Yet. That data actually helps quite a bit. I remember one time at Wild Horse Pass we were hitting something like in the first turn. I think we were only going in like I don't know, let's just say 75 miles an hour And we would hit the first turn and it would be upwards of 15 Gs For like, but it's just a millisecond, so it doesn't feel like that. But then you would hit jumps and you would have that smacking like what Hunter's talking about And we would actually blow the whole intake system off of our YXE Like they had to build a brace for it so that it wouldn't hold, because it would just pop the whole thing off. It was crazy. So that's why he was talking about his tubes coming off. Yeah, yeah, it could have been a part of my problem, right, jesus, hitting is so hard.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's up? Just every time we'd go thriller and I would on by it, i would pass somebody right there so I couldn't quit doing it. Oh really, you had a hotline. Oh, it was good. Yeah, it was. They had watered right before us And so coming down that hill it was super slick in the groove But I was kind of staying out in the cushion actually quite a bit. There was muddy out there, but you could at least carry your speed And then you'd come off the first tape, pull top sideways this way, and then you'd get the gas and you'd come on the next one that's sideways this way, and then you'd bomb the last one.
Speaker 1That's kind of crazy. How was it then? So did you just have to prepare each time? Because I kind of see you in the car rotating back and forth, just like ahead of time.
Speaker 6And then I'm running SC1s out there And in the cushion. They don't have very big lugs because they don't have a whole lot traction in there anyway, So it was just kind of spinning all the time.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, kyle, if he was here he would say spinning as went in.
Speaker 6but he's not here, so yeah, well, it was the only one.
Speaker 1How was the racing, though? like at all seriousness, Because it looked like your guys' I only got to see a little bit, but it looked like the pace was just insane fast.
Speaker 6Yeah, it's not really. It's funny. Usually it's about, you know, bella making steps up over the years and stuff, and I was talking with somebody today about kind of the same day in our class, i think you know. Look who's here, cody Miller. What's up? Oh, i'm sorry I'm late to the party. All right, hunter could continue. Yeah, i was going to say like the 7, 8, 10 place today And see what, what a one a year ago.
Speaker 1Yeah, that is kind of crazy. So, cody, just to catch you up, we're talking about, like the difference in pace Like nowadays compared to what it was a few years ago. It's pretty crazy, like, because you guys are fighting for milliseconds on the track but you guys are all driving really well, except for cheaters that are cutting the track, like somebody right here that we just showed a video like that one.
Speaker 6Well, I'm definitely going to use the whole track out.
Speaker 1Good, bella, did you see that line that he took, and then you, and then did you go to take it or not?
Speaker 3No, no, no, no, no, i got my own lines.
Speaker 1But seriously, like that's, that's a, it was a fantastic line and it's totally legal to do that, right? So it was like it was perfect for you to go out there and like actually execute on that, because you're trying to get traction and it's exactly what Hunter's talking about. You're fighting for milliseconds.
Speaker 6Yeah, i was. You know I had a tire on inside of that bull corner under actually turns completely just after running other people off the track.
Speaker 1So I know like he's taking his head. And they said oh, is he trying to act like he's perfect over here and he's actually the one taking people out?
Speaker 6or course track out there. I just I felt terrible.
Speaker 1But if you like him, hey, what car are you driving right now, cody? The reason I asked is because are you out near Hunter's house stealing his Wi-Fi?
Speaker 6Yeah, So I was just like I don't know.
Speaker 1You're away from me. It's hilarious, dude. You got so funny, so that's hilarious. What are you guys up to today?
Speaker 6Trying to get all our stuff back in line. Seems like we almost out of time. Just a mad dash to try and be prepared.
Speaker 1Yeah, dude, it's actually. So when's the next thing? you have to have every all the vehicles ready for.
Speaker 6We're going to be out a week, so maybe like our biggest break in two months.
Speaker 1So finally, you can go out to eat with the wives and make sure you treat them good.
Speaker 6I don't know if we have time for that.
Speaker 1Hey, so Kyle can defend himself. Let us know how his race went. Were you guys battling pretty hard, though? Because if you had to start from the back, cody, where'd you start at?
Speaker 6Well, the first all position but I came out second behind and it was really wet and slick that mud up And those tires on the wet. I was definitely not giving Kyle a run for his money or anything like that.
Speaker 1Oh, was he using knobby tires? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6Nobby is kicking on, but then halfway the car was off. I worked dude because the track is getting like a flat.
Speaker 1Yeah that sucks. Did you have to change it or do you just run it all the time?
Speaker 6I have to raise my arms.
Speaker 1So you have to come from the back.
Speaker 6Yeah, in a second, and then when we took it back off, i dropped all the way to.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, that makes sense, dude, it sounds like. It sounds like you guys had a pretty eventful weekend.
Speaker 6All over the place. For sure, we had a really good on the second motor. Both started well. We went on our fourth and sixth and came out first and second. So I don't really. Yeah, i'm still not sure how that happened. Like I got it, i was right, i'm fat as can. I got a great jump on him and tried to go to the left of him and then came into the turn and I was doing good and Cody just went motor and right through the middle of all of us.
Speaker 1Dude, what did you just have like a moment, or how did that work out? Uh, i just got the track.
Speaker 3Did really.
Speaker 6Nobody cares Right now. Nobody cares, that's fine, it's fine, it's fine, ah, it's.
Racing Lines and Weekend Highlights
Speaker 1Cody, that's funny, man. What about like the battling and stuff? like, because Bell and I were talking about it was there lines on the track where, like, you could take the outside and somebody else to take the inside, and it was like, even so, you guys could actually have a lot of fun playing around on the track?
Speaker 6Yeah, i'd say there's like one main race line but if you're faster than somebody in front of you, you can definitely find a way around because you've got a lot of options. The the track set big and wide that you know. You could just change the angles and and go around people pretty not easily, but you could definitely pass.
Speaker 1Right did uh Fokker fabs and uh Brody 44 keeps saying hunger is slow. So I don't know if they're your homies. Yeah, they're not, i don't think.
Speaker 6I like one of them.
Speaker 1I don't think I like one of them but okay, so in your guys is the class? I mean like again you're fighting for milliseconds. Does that mean that you have to push really hard to get around the guy and starting you? or like, because it seems like if there's one main line, it would be difficult to well, unless maybe the, as the track matures, it's going to start growing those lines around the outside or wherever, and those are going to get faster.
Speaker 6Yeah, you know yeah, you know like the lines change and we were there for a long, a lot of number and certainly where we set fast lap times in our qualifier we were not running the same lines in the pain and you know it's just ever changed the more laps to get burned, it gets more. I mean the tracks, so there's so many angles for the guys in the outfield Sometimes look and you know they've got like a tabletop leading the corner on the inside. Only that leaves this second half of the track wide open to have like a big, wide bull turn. It was really good And made it really well. I'm sure that you know watch the race can see for all the passes that have all the classes. That's not as far that.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I was going to say, like. like, if I was just out there practicing, i would be taking those hero lines like all the way around. just that fun, just floating around the whole bar. I mean it looks so fun.
Speaker 6Yeah, i like how you said, the track changed quite a bit because you have the natural rally cars out there and they're obviously taking all the corners completely different than we do. So it and then they would, you know, move some inside barriers around a little bit in a couple of corners, and just the track was changing a lot, a lot under the course of the weekend. So whoever could kind of adapt to it the fastest was the one that would be going the fastest. Does that mean that you guys had a change set up or no? I didn't change my too much. I mean we we make very small adjustments for the most part, but you know, we didn't know if it was going to rain or not, I guess. So we had red tires on standby and but we weren't going to change too much with the jocks.
Speaker 1Wedd. you said you didn't really change too much, Did you go?
Speaker 3Well, not too much, Just easy little adjustments tire, pressure and stuff. but that's about it.
Speaker 1Did you get to watch the pro class races? Well, i did. Did you learn any lines from them? or learn, or learn what not to do? Either one of those, no it's.
Speaker 3It's crazy to watch your guys's races and kind of understand what lines I need to take. I learned a lot from you guys.
Speaker 1So what is something that you noticed?
Speaker 3Yeah, lines, competition, aggression, a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 1But Yeah, because it's teaching everybody with the visual cues, right, right. Can you kind of tell what they're doing, like inside the car, when you're watching them like with their feet and their hands?
Speaker 3Sometimes, yeah, cody, not really.
Speaker 6They got a reactant, i got white gloves, everything When they're watching us. We looked the slowest out there on November 30th.
Speaker 1Oh, I mean, we haven't gotten any comments that said you guys are fast So.
Speaker 6I would get mean that. I mean we're not, we're not very wild throwing it in the corners real hard or anything. You know everybody says we don't look like we're trying.
Speaker 3You guys are smooth and consistent, though, so that I think those are key things.
Speaker 1Well, that's the, that's the total thing. Right, like it's kind of like that What they used to tell us in dirt bike racing or ATV racing. Right Like the slower is faster, but it also, if you look smooth, you can go faster. Right, like that's the consummate for a level racing.
Speaker 6Yeah, and especially I thought I tried that, i thought I can tell you Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1I'm going to actually counter that, though, by showing you a video of somebody that uh yeah, it's not 120. For your perspective, that's a dude. How was it sliding down the hill right there? afterwards, though, holy crap, i was just glad that it came back around. All you were thinking it was going to the rear end was going to come around.
Speaker 6It is gnarly that next one has been a lot of people Oh did it? Oh it has. Yeah, the last two races actually, because it gets pretty tight.
Speaker 1Yeah, thank you to your content guy for getting us all this stuff. Dude, it's actually like you can. You can see it. Yeah, look how slick it was going in that corner, dude. Oh yeah, you can see the knobby tires right there just gripping Super cool videos though to actually check out. But that's some of the corners that I was talking about. Like, it looked to me like yeah, you said there was a fast line, but it looked to me like there could be other lines that burn it.
Speaker 6Yeah, no, it just takes traffic, that's all.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's true. Well, 287 cars, that's a lot of traffic. What were some of your favorite parts of the weekend, Cody?
Speaker 6Um, so many cool things that happened. Qualifying was really fun. You know, not really well, i didn't finish it at all, i already didn't, i already did really. But it was fun just going out there and breaking new track and just what they had done, the new things that we had to play with the next you know season. It was just cool exploring and finding out What all they had built well, not just that, but the titter and stuff as well, how much asphalt they care. Watching the ultra-floor race was really fun. I mean, gosh, there was so many things happen to him Yeah.
Speaker 1That's a pretty barely week to go through. Yeah, yeah, like it's almost like sensory overload, right hunter.
Speaker 6Did you guys get to go watch the RC race? then you thought by, if our friends I wanted to, i'd stop by for five minutes and watch it. No, it's like okay, i got to keep going over here and talk to this person and then I'd go back watch it for another 10 minutes. I've never really sat down and and watched anything because I kept moving, but it's pretty crazy. I'm not sure what that means.
Speaker 1I would have loved to know that there was a RC car race. Hey, you want to know what's funny though? fun fact, i know a couple of those RC guys better than I even know you guys. Yeah, it's one of my buddies, rent Mayfield, i think. He ended up getting third in the pro buggy class. He came out like he's a big side by side guy from Arizona, so he came out and watched you guys racing stuff too. He said it was so cool.
Speaker 6I Don't know him, obviously, but I know what it was. I was in that world for quite a while, for sure big RC guy over here. Not that big face to me. Can you drive with our seat car? good, i used to. That was pretty decent, for sure. I mean I was anywhere near that level, not even close, but so I was up.
Speaker 1Yeah, the problem is is we all have ADD, we can't concentrate. Like they can't know. You want to throw a shout out to your buddy right there though, all right. So What? like what was some of the stuff that you enjoyed outside of the racing then? because you guys always like to have a pit party, you guys usually have some good food stuff. Like that happening, and I know that you guys were out there for a little while, so it was a little bit of a background of what was going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 6Yeah, The rodeo is really sweet Oh.
Speaker 1Really there was a rodeo to yes.
Speaker 6Instagram is coming around the bowl. No way.
Speaker 1Is that true, cully? yeah, 100%, he's got the bloody shins through it and you're trying to blame the racing for hurting your back there. Dude, that's great. Well, how was it hard? No way did you, did you see?
Speaker 3it. No, I wish.
Speaker 1I was. Did anybody get that on the video? I?
Speaker 6Like rust has it on video, i promise.
Speaker 1Okay, i'm gonna look at rest his page real quick and see if I can find it. Bella, did you see that? the little mechanical?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, i was tempted to ride one, but that was like I have to race, so no, i'm not going to.
Speaker 1So you're smarter than the professional. That's funny, man. I do think it's cool that you guys had all of the ability to be able to go out there and have a good time with it. Let's see here. I don't see it on here. Oh, go, mine, it's not yours. Okay, i'll look and see if I can find it. But tell us about a little bit, about behind the scenes, like with you guys, because We were talking about camaraderie and support mechanisms here. You both have a really open pit and you guys will help any of the other drivers that come around and you guys have good setups and stuff like that. So give me an understanding of how many people come by, how many people talk to you guys and just spread the joy of offer.
Speaker 6Yeah, for sure, like you said, we're we're kind of an open pit. No, it's like just air set up with everybody, because I don't like seeing people struggle and not have fun.
Speaker 2Oh, dude, that's giving.
Speaker 1That was actually not bad, like I kind of want to give your pops to that dude And your t-shirt how many seconds did you last Dude?
Speaker 6that's actually pretty good Yeah.
Speaker 1I'm here. No, it wasn't one on the real bull.
Speaker 6I think he's great for the real ones. Was it gnarly?
Speaker 2I mean you wore shorts and a Hawaiian shirt, basically.
Speaker 6So I mean like the gear was pretty on point to.
Speaker 1Oh, that's right. You guys got big sponsored by Nixon, now I, but no one. It was.
Speaker 6I like a week honestly, canaan Baker The bakers. To me that comes spot for Canaan for the nitro rally race and I bet you never done that before So I was trying to figure it out a little bit of time. But you know, watching the improvements he made over the course of the day every time you went on the track was actually Brief of billing.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is kind of cool to see the behind the scenes right to get the other end of the spectrum, because then you have a Really understand and respect what people do like when they are spotting for you. Yeah, no, absolutely It's, it's cool.
Speaker 6You know you, you want to like grab the wheel from them and say, no, don't do it like that.
Speaker 1Yeah, but yeah exactly like you're inside the car You know milk crying to Explain what I do and put it into words rather than just naturally doing.
Speaker 6It was kind of a challenge Also that I'd figure out. So it was fun. It was the little bit different, it was fun. Yeah, that is cool. All right, cody.
Speaker 1So we asked Bella the same question a little bit earlier, when you got to the races, compared to your last lap, your first lap, compared to your last lap, how much improvement do you think you made over the whole weekend?
Speaker 6I haven't honest any of the time, so I can't tell you the real answer, but I felt I shaved Wow, that's pretty good. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that. I'm gonna go ahead and say that. I'm gonna go ahead and say that.
Speaker 1Wow, that's pretty good. So, bella, like everybody, even the professionals are still gaging that they're kind of like trying to get better and better as the weekend goes. Yeah.
Speaker 6I actually did look at the lap and he got a five lower. No way They keep qualified with like a 135 and in the race running like 140s.
Speaker 1So I can guarantee Cuddy's a ruttle right now. I was gonna say, yeah, i was track changes.
Speaker 6I mean, i was actually muddy so The track just slowed down a little bit compared to walled by, and I don't know sure why, but it did where everybody.
Speaker 1Well, that's the exact kind of thing that I was talking about, right, like the lines will change and new lines will burn in, depending on where the races go And the level of competition out there in the future, because some of the lines will get better. I mean, you'd look at tech specs last time we were there, compared to the first time you were there, like it was massively different.
Cowboy Cerrone and Third Grade Smarts
Speaker 1Yeah it is All right, so we were gonna play. Are you smarter than a third grader with cowboy and Dustin? since they're not gonna be able to come on, or whatever they're doing at the airport, let's ask them three questions, the best out of three. Bella's got some good questions here, all right, so let's pick a question, bella. Okay. So, guys, your name is your buzzer, so whoever says their name first gets to answer the question first. We're gonna do two out of three and now we're gonna play. Are you smarter than a third grader with Hunter Miller and Cuddy Miller? Bella, what's the first question?
Speaker 3What is the largest planet in our solar system? Cuddy.
Speaker 5See it, that was a good move.
Speaker 6Because, you can steal too, that, or?
Speaker 3You're close.
Speaker 1It is close.
Speaker 2Jupiter. I said, you didn't say Jupiter.
Speaker 6You didn't say Jupiter, we didn't, we had. Well, they had one.
Speaker 1If you didn't say Jupiter, we legit didn't hear it, uh.
Speaker 6What's up All?
Speaker 1right, who in? are you guys ready for your second question? Who invented the telephone Hunter? Does Hunter, hunter's, hunter's getting a lifeline or something? I'm sure that's in right. I think Hunter fell down.
Speaker 6I like the underground out he totally got a lifeline Cuddy, that was the one that invented electricity.
Speaker 1Oh well, all right. Well, it's all right. So Hunter got the first answer, so one zero. All right, go for it, bella.
Speaker 3Okay, this is the hardest question. What's 25 times three? This?
Speaker 1You gotta say your name. Your name is your brother. Cuddy got it. Dude, now you're tied up. Crap, all right. I'm gonna give you a hard question. Are you boys ready? Hunter, we can't hear you very good, so you're gonna have to yell.
Speaker 4All right, i'm not giving you the answers.
Speaker 1Well, she's not gonna be able to look this one up, so, cuddy, you might have an advantage. Are you guys ready? Old farmer John gives you five apples, three times over. How many apples do you have You?
Speaker 6didn't say your name, well, I don't know how to give it.
Speaker 1Bella, should we give them the question or some color to draw?
Speaker 3I feel like one more ending question.
Speaker 1All right, this is for all the marbles. You get 69 bonus points if you win this.
Speaker 3Okay, are you ready? The first Thanksgiving was celebrated by Native Americans. And what other group of people?
Speaker 6Cuddy, hi Cuddy. The Native Americans must end the children. Dude, it's nailed it Hunter.
Speaker 1You just got smoked and you had two people. You had two people, dude.
Speaker 3They both needed to think about it for a little bit.
Speaker 1That was amazing. Are you smarter than a third grader? hey, boys, we're gonna get some of the kids on. Thank you very much for joining us. You guys are solid. I really appreciate you guys taking the time with us. Get back to your families, have some fun. We'll see you guys next. Dirt live show Bye, see you later. That was a fun little game. Do you think we can play that game like if we get any of the kids on the I?
Speaker 3honestly do a witch's car.
Speaker 1You think we could? yes, all right, let's see if we can. So, all right, so now we're gonna get great Kelly on and then I don't know, since the show is kind of going wacko, why don't we get Josie Watkins and chase car? so if all you guys are watching, oh, here we go. Never mind Cowboy Seroni, let's see if we can get him on real quick. Maybe Dustin will be with him too and we can do. Are you smarter than a third grader with both of them? Hopefully their planes are like not too bad right now. Yeah, oh, there we go, dallal, cowboy Seroni. What's up, buddy? You're on a tram. It sounds like huh No.
Speaker 2Are we? and now the UFC park. Oh, crowd you guys up in Vegas. Yeah, and Justin and I are racing tomorrow. Really, where you guys racing at Atonopah Down the head day somewhere?
Speaker 1Dude, you've been doing so much racing you don't even know where you're at now. Don't care. Well, thank you very much for joining us. We really appreciate it. So we're talking about all kinds of different stuff on the dirt life show. Tonight we're talking about are you smart of the third grader, a game that you love, hunter and Cody Miller. They just totally botched the whole game so you would have smoked them if you were on. We're talking about racing at MAO, at Visions. That looks actually pretty fun. That's the main thing of this show. So give us a little bit of understanding of what your last week was like at a Volkswagen bug.
Speaker 2Yeah, get out of this trailer. I'll give you a little tour of the UFC on that one.
Speaker 1Yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 2The bug was Fine, wrang a lot, so I kind of drive be able to throw it in a little bit drifting zero power.
Speaker 1Dude. It looked like it was super cool, though like how was this sending it over some of those big ass jumps?
Speaker 2You never in a million years how you could send your Uncle Larry's Volkswagen bug over at John's. Take a little, trust me, it was a good time. Did you have any?
Speaker 1like do you have an opportunity to take a passenger, or did they just want seaters?
Speaker 2Yeah, they're a choosey or not anybody? they wouldn't let anybody.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, it would be kind of cool to take a ride with cowboy around the short course you have, don't you think It looked like pretty big senders.
Speaker 2Up there's the training grounds. This is like, oh, wow, dude, how cool is that? All straight edition PT Hero for all athletes. And then here's the hall of fame. I hope there's all the all the going up on that.
Speaker 1Dude, yes, dude, that's, that's sick man. That's an accomplishment in itself. Right there, matt, congratulations. I don't know, i was here when I was here.
Speaker 2When I was here.
Speaker 1Alright, we'll have to see what happens. Oh, look at that Behind the scenes Training card. That's how you get faster racing. Bella, you want to go over there train yeah, then you over.
Speaker 2That's, y'all got a sneak peek.
Speaker 1Exclusive. Well, thanks, cowboy, i appreciate it. Man, that was pretty cool. So what was going on? your guys just playing God delaying? I don't know. Dustin said he was at the airport, so maybe it wasn't you, maybe it was Dustin.
Speaker 2Wishcom tickets and he doesn't.
Speaker 1He cheaped out. He got the $69 ticket. You saw it.
Speaker 2I'm running the car you're in or not. I'm on the line. I didn't even want you to ride in there with me, no.
Speaker 1What car are you guys gonna race this week?
Speaker 2We'll race in my car. There's a pack right there.
Speaker 1Oh, there she is. Yeah, give us a little bit of a breakdown on that bad boy.
Speaker 2Hungry. Hopefully they're gonna run at it. She's ready.
Speaker 1Yeah, let's check it out. Let's check that bad boy out and see what the vote, what the deal is behind that, because I got a follow up question. Dude, she looks good too.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Hey Bella, do you know, you know, you know that we'll run in customs number, like I guess.
Speaker 2Enough for, but I don't know many people that ran the new Garmin. But it's Yes, me too. Oh, you done, you read it.
Speaker 3Yes, Is it super good? Yeah, yeah, very on point.
Speaker 1Okay, so cowboy, just to introduce you. This is Bella Bershard, hi young racer. She loves desert as well. I noticed that he had some keen to see wheels. You see those? that was those things amazing.
Speaker 3Amazing. Yes, I do.
Speaker 1Yeah, those are good. Hey, so, since you gave us actually, this is a perfect time to ask this question. So she gave us a walk around of your old training ground and the things that you used to do, and you're giving us a walk around of the stuff that you're into Now. What's the biggest difference in I don't know, i guess lifestyle now compared to what it used to be, since you're a racer and a retired professional fighter?
Speaker 2Well, well one, he was listening to us. Zero money.
Speaker 1You know what they say. Right, if you want to become a millionaire, a race car driving, then you start with two billion or three billion.
Speaker 2You.
Speaker 1But you're obviously enjoying it though, because you race last week. Now you're racing this week. There's a lot going on in your life.
Speaker 2Already dating as a big opportunity to race. A bug done and that rally cross getting a key car. Oh, in trying to side of front based Reno of all, i do this. The rally cross or not, one of those elect are, i don't know, orange help.
Speaker 1So did you get the test one or anything? because they do those things look gnarly. No, having to know it, dude that's what I would do too, but Bella said they drove so little as they drove slicks.
Speaker 3Yeah, came in King and Baker. They drove slick at America.
Speaker 2Yeah, they were who grew about on track.
Speaker 1Dude. That's honestly crazy to me, though, especially with all that torque dude. I.
Speaker 2Can't.
Speaker 1Dude, i want to be there when you get in that car. Let me know I'm gonna come out and see. I Think it would be pretty fun, all right, so you guys are gonna race that car this weekend, but give us a little bit of a of a background on what happened last weekend. So you went out and you raised a bug. Who won? like were you battling up front? like what was the deal?
Speaker 2No, i At least I definitely had a question and there's a bunch of role Crash. I thought it was both of God that I was in there, like all the cars as you are. It would have passed my way around here, but I'm not sure who started their names. They stopped the rate up. There are times I just happened to be the second Lucky position.
Speaker 1Oh, there you go, that's perfect. but it seemed like it was pretty crazy, like when we I just saw like social media stuff It seemed like the whole, like the whole race had so much different action going on.
Speaker 2It was insane. You did this much like Right, no, no, you don't put it on the gas and you take housing like you got a corner, the corner. The men keep this and then smash in the chaos.
Speaker 1What about those big turns? like, could you get a lot of speed coming off those big turns and come down those though?
Speaker 2You can be going into him to like pick the ass inside.
Speaker 1Like you're going up the hill, you like I think I can't.
Speaker 2I think I can't. Yeah, I think I would out help this car get up faster.
Speaker 1Like the flint. Is that on? did you get to watch them race, bella?
Speaker 3No, I didn't. I didn't get to watch them. Well, you should have cuz. Clearly it sounds bitch.
Speaker 1I know, Man. I'm glad that we got you on the show, man. It was cool to see, and one of the things that I like most about what you're doing now is the Transition, because there's a lot of people that are really enjoying watching you and your career and everything coming up and off-road. It's pretty cool to see, so you must feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 2Right a lot. The race community is full on biting. And now, like you, tomorrow, if I go up there, i don't have a car. So they call here, take it off my car, i'll get you later. Happy several times out on the side. Why we blown, it's the car guy was broke down next to us. Give their tire. You know, it's unbelievable. Just the frontery, the lifestyle of off-road go.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly what's one of your favorite parts about watching cowboy drive?
Speaker 3I would say good, especially the transition like how you go from FMA. Yes, no, it's good, it's cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, it really is cool, Right? it probably gives you motivation to be a better driver yourself, right, bella? That's very well that we really appreciate cowboy. Thanks a lot, man, and then good luck. Kick some asses weekend. tell that's nice.
Speaker 2I said hi, i'm not kicking it, we'll see if you get Blonde.
Speaker 1So we'll say you just do it. Yeah, kick him in the nuts if you see him for us. Thanks, homie, see you. Pretty cool to see, right, yeah, and like you said, though, like it's really cool that Well, first of all, he respects racing in the community and stuff by his progress, because when he first got in the car It was much different than where he's at now. Right, that's pretty bitchin up, okay. So let's get great Kelly on here and then We will just keep talking about some racing. So thank you guys very much for hanging out with us. If you don't follow the dirt life show, feel free to go over to dirt life show and give us a follow. We'll talk about some more racing. Great Kelly, hi, how are you? What's going down, man? you just got done with a week of racing. Huh, did you have a good time out there, like with all your friends?
Speaker 4and I loved the lazy river.
Speaker 1She's now my new best friend because our lazy river. That's where I will be out the whole time. Like lazy rivers are my let go to oh yeah. I love lazy rivers. The only problem with the lazy river, though, is you just never want to get off.
Speaker 2Yes, it.
Speaker 1Is pretty cool to see. Could you see if whoever holding the phone could go up to bring out a little bit closer to you so that we could see you a Little bit better and we can hear you a little bit better? And then? and so, what class did you end up racing this weekend, gray?
Speaker 4And it's all well limited.
Speaker 5How'd you do I?
Speaker 4Stored it out. Oh, and then I got to 9th in the in the main.
Speaker 1How did you feel? like you were driving pretty good, because that's actually good at any time. You could move up in position as a positive thing. Did you get to watch her at all, bella or no?
Speaker 3I did it. She was on fire. It's pretty good. I heard there was a lot of kids out there and stuff for a lot of good competition. Yes, there was a.
Speaker 1Cool, yeah, thank you for moving the phone closer. You sound much better now. What are a couple of things that we were talking about? progression in your racing, progression and Cowboys racing and the Miller Brothers Evens what was something that you saw from grand as she progressed throughout the weekend.
Speaker 3I would say, even watching you practice to watching some of the last races that you did, you had a lot of good progression going and moving up and going from 11th to 9th in your race, so that was pretty cool to see Yeah what about like line choices?
Speaker 1Did you notice he was like use her head more kind of thinking where she was put, the car?
Racing Fun on the Track
Speaker 3The 170s are a lot smaller than some of the other cars, so it's the tracks more wider to them, so they have an advantage, kind of. But it was good to see you, you know, using footwork and watching you pass and getting up there.
Speaker 1How long have you been racing for?
Speaker 3Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 1So you've been having a good time. Obviously. What's your favorite part about racing? Champing having fun track and then if you get to go to Lazy River, what? add that in as a bonus?
Speaker 3Yeah, any tangos and free ice cream.
Speaker 1Good God, she's like my best friend seriously, but it is cool to see that you're progressing too right. So I asked Bella the same question Did you notice a difference in your speed or the way that you felt driving the car from when you first got out on the track The first day until your last lap on the last day? What was the main differences? did you feel smoother? do you feel faster? did you feel more aggressive? like, give us a breakdown. That's actually really good. Yeah, and what was your crew telling you? like your mom, your dad And your friends, were they saying the same thing? Yeah, i love that. That's the way to go. Does that mean that your car is pretty fast? Could you? could you drive a faster if it was faster?
Speaker 1Yes, wait this is like a true racer right.
Speaker 3Was there some other girls out there on the track, or was it really just you and a couple other ones?
Speaker 1I Yeah do you like racing against the girls or the boys? are both.
Speaker 3They're different drivers, huh.
Speaker 1Do you experience that of? I'm sorry, great, go ahead.
Speaker 4Against the East Coast, against in the West Coast the yeah oh, really like what's the difference?
Speaker 3It's coastic, these like five minute, but it was already oh.
Speaker 1That's true, because it's a totally different form of racing, right, was it? does that mean that you adjusted your racing style to different, to be different? What was the difference? like you just went out more aggressive, or like, give us a little bit of detail. I.
Speaker 4I Go out there a little bit.
Speaker 1Yeah, and you have to give the they call it mechanical sympathy on the car. Right, you'd like I went as a five minute race. There's zero mechanical sympathy, it's just go. Did you feel? kind of the same way, bella do the most shorter races the less time, the harder on the car. What about when you're out there racing against the guys and the girls like, do you notice a big difference in the way that?
Speaker 3Yeah, I would say the guys are a lot more aggressive, But girls can get pretty aggressive too and it's just. They're just different people and it's really cool to Get in there with the boys and stuff too.
Speaker 1So if you were talking to Gray, like if you were spotting for her, what would you tell her? like as as advice, like, oh, this boys coming up on you do this, or this girls coming up on you. You kind of negotiate the personality of the driver.
Speaker 3Yeah, I would mostly say stay focused on who's ahead of you and keep your corners tied and make sure you're always in the game. Never lose your focus and with stuff like that. So keep in mind.
Speaker 1What does your spotter usually tell you? great?
Speaker 4You know send.
Speaker 1And keep it. You know what my spotter used to always have to tell me? right, you would have to tell me to breathe, because I Would get so anxious and so excited in the car that if I didn't breathe I would start like making mistakes. So if I breathe and I calmed out, it makes me so much more like nice and easy on the steering wheel and like way better. Does anybody ever tell you that It's because you can get so excited racing, because it's so much fun, right? Oh, hey, you know what I was noticing too. Bella, did you get a new wrap on your car?
Speaker 3I did.
Speaker 1Do you want me to show people what it looks like? because it looks pretty cool, pretty rad. So I don't know if you, if you know this about me, gray, but I'm really into bright colors. Look at that man. That thing is pretty cool, right? So what's your favorite part about that new sticker kit? What's your favorite part about the new sticker kit?
Speaker 3okay, It's like it has the like kind of stripes on it.
Speaker 4That's like it looks like really.
Speaker 1Yeah, totally. And look what she did to the wheels, bella. Yeah, you see that. Yeah, pink in the front stuck out there. Oh, so you could notice her more than any other people, huh.
Speaker 3So we're clean for yeah. No, it's like a little highlighter out there.
Speaker 1Yes, That's perfect. Do you know? what's funny is people say team safety color sometimes, but that's what I like to. Yeah, i'm big into the bright colors, right? What was some of the funnest? What'd you say?
Speaker 4I'm pack a pinky color, oh yeah what?
Speaker 1do you sign autograph with pink or yellow? Perfect, look at her. Yes, so, and if you get a pink one, you're like special. Oh yeah, pink is the best, so. so what was one of your funnest points of the whole weekend, right?
Speaker 3The track the ultra, for that was so fun.
Speaker 1Did you guys get to go on it? What'd you guys take on that course?
Speaker 4So it kind of widely like a little part of trees. It's like whoops. Then we like one thing grass crazy.
Speaker 1Does that mean that you want to ultra for? Does that mean that you want to ultra for?
Speaker 3Yeah, she got bit. No, I said for you glass.
Speaker 1Do you want to drive an ultra for? So mom and dad are gonna have to pony up for that one now Be pretty expensive, right? But yeah, so you got a good race. That's really cool, and battling with all your friends must have been really fun. It looked like the track had like a lot of traction. I saw a couple of the pictures that you guys sent over that we posted online for you. You were roosting totally, so you must have been like slide through the corners giving a full throttle It. Do you remember your days given a full throttle and a little one?
Speaker 3seven days. What do you see her?
Speaker 1Does it bring back memories?
Speaker 3Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 1That's kind of cool, right? Yeah, and I knew, did you see your take off her helmet or anything? because I've seen her take off her helmet after the races a few times. She's smiling from ear.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, she's a big ol grin.
Speaker 1See there's that grand is coming out. Great, you must have had a lot of fun on the track. But what was some of the funnest things that you did off the track, just with your family, not the lazy river like in the pits? Did you learn how to work on your car? You help mom and dad's grill on the hamburgers, like what was happening in the pits? Really hang out with all your friends or with family. Bella, did you get to hang out with her at all?
Speaker 3No, i didn't. I said hi to you a couple times. I saw you in the golf cart go back and talk about yeah it's great that busy. Yeah, she's pretty famous.
Speaker 1That's what I was gonna say, dude. She's not like going on, yeah, since. what's next on the schedule, gray?
Speaker 3You have to go to a Gilbert race race how I ended it and it go to For all you toffers or for work.
Speaker 1Dang man, you got a lot going on with racing. No, you Are. You gonna race the same car there. Just make some adjustments and go out there and give a full throttle. That's gonna be pretty fun right, all right. Well, i want to say thank you for you coming on the show, thank you to your parents for helping set this all up, and you did a great job this weekend, so I want to see you keep improving every single time you get out of the track. All right, bella, what do you guys say to her when just wishing you luck for all your upcoming races.
Speaker 3I hope everything goes good and I'm really excited to see you, girl, in this industry. It's really cool.
Racing and Overcoming Nerves
Speaker 1Yeah, girl All right, yes, all right, we'll see you later. Great, have a good time. We're gonna get Josie Watkins on and chase car. Thank you very much, gray. All right, so let's get the chase car and Josie Watkins on. You guys can join. Request to join anytime. Man, like I know she's a little bit shy. She might have been a little bit nervous, but it makes me feel so happy to see the kids not only wanting to participate in racing, but to be able to put themselves out there like this. Right, because it's pretty nerve-wracking. Right, like when you're in a race car. You're in your zone, you're in your own little space here in your own helmet. You get to do your own thing, you get to focus on what you got going on. You have people around you supporting you when you have to do media stuff, i mean, like it gets pretty crazy sometimes, yeah, and I think it's fantastic that she offered to come on the show and she's doing such a great job at both.
Speaker 3Yeah it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1All right, so let's see if we can get Josie Watkins on, and then we'll see if chase car can join us as well. So give me a little bit of background on. Hi, josie, how are you Good, how are you Doing awesome. I like your glasses too. Do you have to wear those to help your vision, or do you just wear those because they're cool?
Speaker 4So the restriction on my drive it license in the state of Missouri. So I have to put glasses full-time and then when I race I wear contacts.
Speaker 1Oh wow, no way, really. That's the same with me. I don't have any restrictions in Missouri, though, thankfully, so we're gonna get chase car on in a little bit here. But give us a little bit of a background. Josie, how long are you in racing?
Speaker 4I think that's been a while, but 2019 I really picked up and I won my first national championship cross-country racing. My coach is actually Travis Warner. I think he's watching right now. You get me and me and Travis on a racing again, or racing with each other for 2019 to current, and I've won two national championships 2019 and 2020. And then 2021 was like my trial year and short versus. I never really ran up before. And then 2022, i lost a championship by a point and the woman's in a class. I was racing at mid-america and I lost. Oh, i'm as doubt as it stated.
Speaker 1That's gnarly.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm chasing down three championships this year. Oh wow, Look at this girl's head out do everything Overachiever over here.
Speaker 1That is pretty cool. And then. So I have a funny story that. So Travis pointer and I we drove pretty far To I forgot where the race was, but anyways, we were sitting in a car for a while because he picked me up at the airport And we were talking about a young girl and I think it was you see. So yeah, and he said that you had a lot of talent. So it's cool to see and it's cool to finally talk with you on the show. So I'm glad that you were able to line it up, bella. So thank you. So we're gonna get Chase Carr on here in just a second. I'm gonna have him come on. So, josie, tell us a little bit about your race at visions this last week.
Speaker 4Visions and actually really good for me. I was really happy We didn't have the first one. Oh, we just had the one race and done, because I last race I got him to a problem where I broke a bull joint and I just got Pied-pied the day, and so I was really happy how we just had the one race and I went out for the woman's turbo class, gave it Two laps, i got the lead and I held the whole lead for the rest of the race and then woman's in a. I had the lead and then amateur and I went in the fourth and then Dude, that's a lot to take in right now.
Speaker 1That's crazy, right? That's such a good weekend. I welcome chase Carter the show. What's up, chase? All right, yeah, good man, how are?
Speaker 5you. Oh, pretty good Little sore, very same your Dana.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's kind of crazy, Ray. And then Hunter Miller was actually talking about being sore too. Was it because you guys were pushing the car so hard?
Speaker 3Yeah no, from all that pit bike in. Oh, is that what he's trying to say Is?
Speaker 1that what really happened, yeah.
Speaker 5But I add.
Speaker 1Hey, put this off a little bit closer, or maybe put some headphones in, like your airpods or something. It's, the audio is gonna blogging out. Yeah, give me one, it's like okay, cool. All right, josie, why he talks about some of that stuff. What was your favorite class that you raced this past week?
Speaker 4Woman's turbo. I was like so proud of myself I've been hunting down a win since round two because I didn't end up racing it round one And I was hunting down a win and I finally got three man, like it was just such an emotional race, like I came across the finish line and I just start falling as a man. I finally won this class.
Speaker 3That's rad That. No, i was right behind you in the women's day cause I was like dude This girl's pushing.
Speaker 1Were you just going crazy thinking about that, because that's a lot of anticipation. sitting in the car, i Need it.
Speaker 4It's just some nerve-wrapping like I get in, like I get re-emailing earth's bar, go on the trap and then Like I'll just sit there in the car and just get like jitters and everything I don't know. It's just like every way for the race, i just get jitters.
Speaker 1Is it because you're like thinking about too much for yourself or you're like thinking about your competition, like Bella over here?
Speaker 4I'm gonna spit like all the right line. That's like my main thing. When I have a perfect race, i'm ecstatic. I got to be back to the wall.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's actually a good point to bring up for Chase too. Like Chase, you're racing what? what's it called now the NA expert class? Yeah, okay, yeah, that's where it is. I remembered now expert is right before pro or whatever. Uh, so, yeah, so when you're in that class, like you have to be like exactly what Josie's saying. You have to be on point with pretty much every single line, like there's hardly any mistakes that could be made.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's. Uh, it's very stacked now like pushing in America. There's a god. I think there was 20 pro in a cars, so you have to be on your toes. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1Yeah, that is crazy. Did you guys qualify? Yeah, how'd you do in qualifying?
Speaker 5I qualified P1 but I'm gonna see race and There a couple 360s that qualified good. What happened in the heat race? One story short I forgot to put in or will drive, so I'm lying. So we made it into what that was. I'm gonna say it's a game move, dude.
Speaker 1Yeah, i, you know. It's funny, though is I've done that before too, like, and not just like once, like maybe 69, it's like. It's been pretty bad, like when I first started racing side by side. But I tell you this I wish that everybody had to drive in two wheel drive because it's so much fun. No, it is not. I love it, dude. I wanted to, i wanted it all the time. But Uh, josie, and you're forgot to put into four-wheel drive.
Speaker 4I've actually had a front disc go out in the middle of a race, so Did you do pretty good or did you spin out like chase?
Speaker 1There you go, see it is. So it is kind of harder. Driver to look, right I think, to a driver makes it harder so that you have to like drive your car completely different.
Speaker 5Especially on the track.
Speaker 1Yeah, and that track did look slick, right like. It looked like it was just like ice racing, like sometimes it could be soaking wet, but if they like till it like motto, it's like it's good. But it did look pretty slick. So During the race, did you start out front or did you have to work your way through the pack? Give us a little bit of a breakdown chase.
Speaker 5Yeah, so I called And then I went into the heat race, starting P1. I think my first lap is when I did my first 360. I almost snatched the port of body, but I don't know how I saved it.
Speaker 1How is that possible? You were that far close to the track, to the center of the track.
Speaker 5On the inside there was like a. I don't know why there was a port of body there, but I like spun out going off the jump and I did 360 around it. How do I know? it's not good?
Speaker 1Where you just looking at the port of body going. Oh Jesus.
Speaker 5I That was on the radio saying if I hit anything gonna get me out of the car.
Speaker 1Josie, could you imagine?
Speaker 4My parents used to do that fairly, make this microns and a trash company back when we used to have port of cars, and so I know all about that.
Speaker 1That's why Josie is so fast. They're lining up trash can, trash pots all over the place. She has the body. Oh, that's like her practice, dude, that's hilarious man, was it well? so what happened next?
Speaker 5chase. I got helping more in 360s and then I think on the lap before the midway I spun out in like the back section after the rhythm section. I got smacked by a couple people and cleaning crews and then I think someone him who is there, and it popped This higher I can be, which sucks, but uh, that's a lot of carnage for your guys. Pits, she's the full back. Oh, i'll have to say she's out. You were done making donuts. I Had them that. I was dying to my midway.
Speaker 1That's hilarious. Who's your favorite dirt bike riders? me, yeah, jet.
Speaker 2Lawrence Yeah.
Speaker 1Well, i was just gonna say jet Lawrence, because they both have donuts in common. That's pretty cool, though Hey, did you get to watch any of the girl racing, like with Bella?
Speaker 5and Josie. Yeah, I went down. Bella did a lesson.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's kind of cool to see the girls battling it out, right, alright. So Now that we're talking about like battling and the race racing and all that stuff, give us a little bit of a breakdown, josie, on what happened when you get and Bella were out on course together.
Speaker 4I Basically pulled the whole shot off the start and I just held it and a girl tried to pass me for a second And she caught the tire going into the S turns and she right, oh, i was that was nuts. You saw, it.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was right in front of me.
Speaker 1What happened? like She just never let up.
Speaker 3No, she and Josie had the line and it kind of just fumbled in and then she ended up hitting the tire right by the corner and Explosion from there We really got like right on me.
Speaker 4I was like yeah, gosh.
Speaker 1Did you see that chase, that axler?
Speaker 5No, I did not do this sounds gnarly.
Speaker 3Women get rowdy out there.
Speaker 5They were nearly, you know, youth class, i think it was. He like flipped over Like a spring car crash like I Dude.
Speaker 1That's crazy. Well, you guys are giving it the beans, obviously. What was next after that, josie?
Speaker 4I just obviously had it after. It's hard to finish and I like heck, yeah, i just they did again.
Speaker 3No, she was pushing, taking good lines. You definitely pushed me as a driver, for sure.
Improving Race Performance Through Analysis
Speaker 1So we were talking about being in the zone and I want to ask Chase the same question. But like, could you tell there was a big difference between when you first got out on track, like during the first portion, now the week, compared to the last lap. So you were making out the track, like in your speed, your comfortability, all that. But let's say Josie answer first. Jason, that hold you guys, it's all good.
Speaker 4I read aims and lines of my cars and Travis will. The data all got on his device and I was only like 20 or 30 percent. They're all like. I was like I and I really need to pick it up and then, towards like the end of the weekend and stuff, i really, really picked it up.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's actually super cool at Travis will probably give you the data and tell you exactly how you did. But when you're like 20 or 30 percent throttle or whatever you just said 30, 40 That means that you're negotiating throttle properly on the track, right, because it's not necessarily how much throttle you give it, it's how smooth and how much momentum and rolling speed that you keep on the track through the corners and through the straightaways. So, depending on how the grippy the track is or out grippy in this case, yeah, there you go, 100 percent throttle less than 30 percent of the time. So you were really really negotiating the track conditions.
Speaker 4It sounds like Yeah, i mean the two practice lock crack is alive and out. It was like kind of like muddy a little bit So I was like trying to pick out the lines and everything, but definitely coming in.
Speaker 1So the woman's sober is like I really You, could you tell a little bit of that? no?
Speaker 3definitely really there was some gnarly progression there.
Speaker 1You were you like, were you trying to follow that level of progression though? Yeah, yes, because it was probably elevating both your guys game.
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, definitely chase it.
Speaker 1That's cool. And then so chase the same kind of question to you. Do you probably had that same level of growth, or whatever speed?
Speaker 5throughout the week. Yeah, so in the broke last you know, be like on your toes, thanks. Especially, coming into your track, you're trying to figure out the best setup and how you can go faster. So throughout the week we're always making setup adjustments, clutching and chalk tuning and tires and all over the place trying to make Yes, fast, yeah.
Speaker 1And you probably notice a lot too, especially like because the level of competition in your guys's class is very difficult, like the girls is. Now You're fighting for milliseconds. Now, like you said, my side race didn't used to be like that. It's pretty sick.
Speaker 5Yeah, I think in college playing I had 1389 and then second place was like 1391 or 139 plus Yeah so like two tenths or something.
Speaker 1That's crazy, dude. But that is cool, man. It keeps you on your toes, that's for sure, because you can't make a mistake. Yeah, we'll give us a little bit of a rundown of, like how the the motors went for you, chase.
Speaker 5Yeah, so fighting is pretty good. I had my basses out and I can't and qualified P1. I went to the key, had my style points and I saw, but I called on a little bit and brought myself back up to first at the end of that and Then and the main event I can't remember- Oh, that good you ran that.
Speaker 1He would see when I talk about the zone. Yeah, like you just focused It's. It's like I've packed out.
Speaker 5I was just doing so good I Awesome battle, i think I. Well, i grabbed the whole shot. We were doing rolling start. So I thought I And Tina came out of nowhere at Elm back. Oh, so we bowed out the rest of the lap. I think someone said we switched track.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was. Oh wait, really, he's one of the kids that I want to get on the dirt live show, so if you guys know him, like the, link them up with me you're totally gonna want right now. I will. He's more than happy to join if you, or we are more than happy to have him join if he wants to come on. But yeah, man, dude, like those battles are, like that's some of the best memories that you'll ever have, like, cuz those are such fun races.
Speaker 5Yeah, even, oh yeah, in the char and I was watching. Even though I technically didn't have to run, i still wanted to battle out cuz man, i would have won all but and.
Speaker 1Well, josh just said man, the last pass, last lap pass on Sean Hess was crazy. What was that all about?
Speaker 5Yeah, I Knew my smaller as an episode on the last laps and the key rates have my style points. So when I was coming back up to do the pack I saw where he was kind of a little wide in one turn. So the last lap by a when outside in on him and Was it hard to do or did you just like?
Speaker 1because that means that you had set it up like Corners and corners in advance, right?
Speaker 5Yeah, i was watching his line as lap and core but I was a little far back So I can't really make it stick there. But like came back clear, he kind of like swath a little bit off the jump. So when we landed, anything I had to do right there, or else is I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1That's crazy. Like, honestly, when I hear Chase talk like this, it makes me so happy because I can he see his photo brain working like in his off-road car. It's kind of crazy. I can't request to join so you can jump on. But Uh, yes, the Josie, like when you hear like chase talking, how do you feel like you pay a lot of attention to the way that he operates, like when he's out there racing so that you can Be better, or like how do you use it to your advantage so you can be a better driver?
Speaker 4So I watch a lot of the pro turbo classes. So me and Travis always sit together and we watch like Kyle Chaney and stuff and we always talk about look at the lines Kyle's like he's look at the momentum He's carrying into the corner of like. It really helps watching the pro guys because me and Travis sit there and like analyze it all races.
Speaker 1Yeah, that does help a lot, bella. You and I were just talking about that, about, like, how you can visually see and take those visual cues from Yeah, the pro drivers right? What are some things, josie, that you learned when you were watching them?
Speaker 4I'm gonna like clean up my lines better and how to take my corners better, and me and Travis are talking like on the corners That I had a holland's with like I could sit there and watch Kyle. Kyle would do them literally perfectly.
Off-Road Racing With Friends
Speaker 1Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Katie, what's up, dude? How are you there's going? dude, we're just hearing that you and Chase were battling in that last race Never a lot of fun. How was it for you, though? because we were just asking Chase like, and he's like dude, it's so fun.
Speaker 5Yeah, i've been hams the whole year, so I've been trying to keep my face. I probably did it. It's lost race and Chase definitely made it for me.
Speaker 1Yeah, but that makes you guys both girls drivers, doesn't it?
Speaker 5Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's the same thing kind of happened with Josie too right, like you're trying to give her as much trouble as possible, she's trying to get out there and win. and then obviously in the turbo class She had a lot of competition too, right, josie?
Speaker 4Yeah, it's really weird running my little RS1 against the big X3's and stuff. I was like man Oh.
Speaker 1This whole time I thought she was talking. She had a turbo car.
Speaker 4No, I had to look twice. One's that.
Speaker 1Okay, so you have one that's like a mod car and one of the stock car kind of thing, or what.
Speaker 4They're both basically identical. I just have a backup car. If you go to my Instagram, i have some pretty rad pictures of some of my rec I had, so it's really nice to have a backup car.
Speaker 1Well, so, and we're watching her. We're talking on Instagram right now, but please say your whole Instagram name so that people on iTunes can go check you out.
Speaker 4Audible Instagram name is Josie Watkins, jos EY.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's perfect. So go check it out and look at her glasses. To common, her glasses does. They're all I said, kana, what was the funnest battling that you had all weekend? Was it that race of Chase?
Speaker 5Oh yeah, i was definitely a shake. I think, like you said, we're back up for better and time already, dude, that's so wild.
Speaker 3Did you watch it? I see you up the whole time. You watch my hands on my head, really the entire time.
Speaker 1It was like the edge of your seat. Yes, what do they say? give me the whole seat, but I only need the edge. When you're watching Chase.
Speaker 3I was like canons in front. Oh no, it's face. Oh no, it's canons here.
Speaker 1Do they have areas that you can't see and all of a sudden one of the dudes would come out? That's good, that's wild way. What tires were you guys running Like the short, the short course, kind of tires.
Speaker 5I.
Speaker 1Couldn't hear you chase. Okay, so they had a little bit of grip. Man, what was the some of the funnest parts of the track then? cuz like we were talking with Hunter and Cody Miller And it seems like the track is kind of I don't know coming into its own, like there's gonna be new lines that develop. But what was the track like that you guys had, or what was the funnest part of the track this past week?
Speaker 5I definitely have. But my best parts in the track And the finish line jump first S term. That's where I'd catch chase the whole time and chase just Pacing me like creeps S turn heads. That's what me is such a good.
Speaker 1Oh, I see what you're saying. So you guys had different areas of the track. Was that because your cars were better or because you guys were better in those areas?
Speaker 5my notes. Pace was just better. I'm There, you We have, we have two different styles and you're yeah and uh, motive.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, that's actually a good thing to talk about, right like I'm gonna ask this two ways, i'm gonna chase. What's the difference in your driving styles? that, josie? I want you to tell me what you saw from the outside watching the race, so chase you go first.
Speaker 5Um, i mean, kenan started with that super wide bar So he always slides it around and I'm more of like a not lost slide and around for fun, but it's not always faster. So I kind of drive mine like a go-kart and that's where I kind of build them in the in the S turns, but Yeah, Well, when?
Speaker 1so when I hear that, like the first thing cause I didn't watch and Josie's going to tell us what it looked like from the outside if she watched the race. But so when I hear that I think what Chase is doing inside the car is managing with two feet, Yes, so he's pedaling the car and he's using less input on the steering wheel. But when he says the canin is driving, i don't want to say like a wild man, but basically sliding it all over the place, right Like that, means that you're using your right foot a lot more and you're giving a lot more steering input. So what did you notice, josie, when you were watching the race?
Speaker 4And I know all this like chase with tight-knit corners and canin would go like a little wide in them, like they always like put 12 back and forth how they did corners And I found that like really interesting. They were right by like on that, but I were doing like two completely different things at each corner.
Speaker 1That's so cool to see though, right, bella?
Speaker 3Yeah, Both equally as fast. but you guys just have a different talent.
Speaker 1Yeah, there you go. Travis Pudder said let Duke style Yeah, it's just hammered down, the right foot is just like a brick on the gas Canin. When you go through like a, photos like that or races like that, does that tell you good ways to improve your professional driving capabilities?
Speaker 5Oh, yeah, this is how we do it. Been watching Chase how he's doing it for tracks is very much, though I think I'm actually being invited to a car thing. They started making their car.
Speaker 1Look see, it's rubbing off on everybody right. And then you know, Chase, that they're gonna have an outdoor go car track in Minnessey now, right.
Speaker 5Yeah, i stole that. I knew the K1 speed one Did we're going. Yeah, i still have my car in the garage.
Speaker 1Dude, there you go. So we're gonna get a whole crew together and go out there. We all got a dice on the track So I can see some of the stuff that Canin's talking about. Like, i'll see your lines and stuff and see if I can just go Kyle with Duke on you. I think it'd be pretty fun. All right, so let's go through. The guys at Cointower Sports have been kind enough to let us stay here for a long time, but we're gonna have to wind this down. So each one of you guys please tell me your favorite part of the weekend, whether it was racing or hanging out, and then you guys can thank your sponsors and then we're gonna get out of here. So, josie, why don't you go first, and then Chase, and then Canin?
Speaker 4I really just like hanging out with that Quellen Truett and all of them and then hanging out with Travis and his wife and his kids and everyone.
Speaker 1Yeah, that is good right, The off-road community is one of the best. How about you Chase?
Speaker 5That clean riding pit bike started. We ended up on the old track one night. it's not very fun pit bikes, but it's fun to drive. Yeah, definitely hanging out with friends And obviously racing.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is pretty cool, right, and those are the memories that you'll never forget, right. It's just being with your family and all that stuff, so you gotta cherish those moments. I know I sound like a old fart when I say that, but Josie's shaking her head right there So she totally knows Was that kind of your same favorite thing, though?
Speaker 3Yeah, I would say just hanging out with everybody and having everyone's presence in company.
Speaker 1Did you get to hang out with all these cool kids too?
Speaker 3I unfortunately didn't get to hang out with Josie hopefully soon but I'm always around Chase, so So he's already getting all the hangout time?
Speaker 1Yeah, all right. so, josie, please give us a shout out to all your sponsors.
Speaker 4Oh boy, there's a lot. Travis obviously his business crash addicts. DFS, jody Hickman, extreme Machine, jimmy Owen, like that will appear they're pretty rad And DXR Rob the Aussie, he obviously made my awesome fire suit. OMF Wheels, cruiser, tire, drps, alondra Racing products, we Racing, geforce Racing they do amazing work on the shocks And I don't really know. I have quite a few people, but I don't think they're cool.
Speaker 1Hey, you gotta say mom and dad too. Don't forget mom and dad. Yeah, but it's for good, right, because you're learning so many lessons and you're doing such a great job. Well, you did a really good job, from what I hear. Unfortunately, i didn't get to see you, but, like Bella said, i hope I get to hang out with you and see you next time too. So killer job this past weekend, all right. Well, we'll see you later, josie. Thank you very much for coming on. No, All right, chase. Give a shout out to all your sponsors and your parents.
Speaker 5Yeah, i had to give a shout out to our parents for obviously getting me out there. My mom, my dad, my grandpa, alondra, routification, clarus, razor, fox Shocks, gps, customs Game and See Wheels. Manly's goes on. Nacho West Coast Motorsports, jess and Andy, i can't thank them enough. Manly's goes on.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's a lot of people that do help you. but another thing is like that I always think is kind of cool is that you guys are talking about each other, like you guys are so young and you have such a bright future ahead of you, and you guys are looking at each other. When you said it before, bella, you said it's so neat to see the kids come out of the cars with a smile and they're like best friends and they get on the tracks. You see the same camaraderie with these two and everybody else. right, yeah, yes, so like those things are really really meaningful. All right, chase. well, we're gonna battle as soon as that Go-Kart Shack comes in a minute. So, hey, great job this weekend, dude. I appreciate it. Later We're talking to you guys. Yeah, me too. All right, kaden. so, man, we just had them. thank all their partners and stuff too. Why don't you give a shout out to all your supporters and everybody as well?
Speaker 5Oh yeah, I would like to bring the Go-MRG Force, John O'Drace and players here here, and my mom and dad, except for me.
Speaker 1Yeah, totally. He got a lot of people that help you. What's next on your plate, dude?
Speaker 5Um, just, I'm just an X-Men America race and I think I'm gonna side it. I'm gonna earn the McRae On some pre-weekends, so that'll be fine.
Speaker 1Yeah, that'll be pretty cool, right, and then are you gonna do any of those races where you can see your friends?
Speaker 3No, I don't think so, but I'll be cheering on from California.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly, all right. Well, thanks for coming on and joining us, dude, to spare the moment, but it was cool to talk with you, buddy. Yeah, thanks for having me, No problem, all right, we'll see you later. Bye, kaden. All right, bella, so we're gonna wind down the show.
Speaker 1It was really cool to talk with everybody. You know, what's funny is that the show didn't actually turn out to be a race report like we're used to, right, like it turned out to be a nice conversation with awesome people. We got spare the moment. Stuff happened with like cowboy and everybody. I kind of wanted to play very smarter than the third grader with the kids, but we just didn't have enough time, so maybe we could save that for later. Yeah, all right. So we wanna thank everybody. First and foremost, i wanna thank Bella for letting her time. I wanna thank everybody at Coin Power Sports for staying late.
Speaker 1If you guys have any eats for Power Sports you're in Southern California, come to Bella's neck of the woods, to Manning, or you can go to El Centro and see the guys at Coin. You can pick up all kinds of stuff. Bella, lean over so you can get one of these Troy Leagy Razor 170 or 200s and get it for your kids, you get a matching one for yourself. With the Pro-R, they got Troy Leagy Pro-Rs too. So yeah, grab some of the stuff from Coin Power Sports. You can also get order some KMC wheels. You can get some Maxis tires. You can get Motul all sponsors.
Speaker 3All the good products.
Speaker 1Yep shock therapy. Please visit them. They're gonna have a new website, shocktherapyusacom. You can go check them out. get some stuff from them. Thanks to the guys at JL Audio. The guys at Evolution Power Sports Check them out. They're making power so that you can keep up with Kana, chase and everybody. Get the same level of power that Bella has on her car. Thanks to the guys at Zollinger Racing Products. Josie has actually sponsored by them as well. Thanks to the guys at Vision Canopies, and go check out starscreampropro. Anything else that you wanna say? You should thank some people.
Speaker 3Yeah, thank you everyone. Thank you Coin and Todd and everybody here that helped us and got us all set up for this so we can talk to everybody and how their week went. Thank you to MAO Mid America And that whole Vision's Week was so rad and everybody got to come together and do what they love And it was really cool And my parents and all my whole program. You guys know who you are. Thank you so much, and George, of course, for letting me hop on.
Speaker 1No problem. Thank you to Cruzy Soops too. Yes, all right. well, thank you guys very much. You guys are our life's blood, so please tune in, hang out with us, send us DMs, do whatever you guys gotta do to communicate with us. Let us know what's going on in the off road world. We love it. So we will see you guys next week. Peace, peace.
Speaker 6Thanks for listening to The Dirt Life Show. See you next week. Got none yet You.
