Some crazy stories behind the scenes of the Baja 400 Desert Race in Ensenada Mexico. Bryce Menzies & Oren Anderson came away with the overall win!
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Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George Hamill.
Speaker 2:Yes, what up? Dirt Life Fam. We have a awesome show for you guys tonight. Baja 400 recap. We just had the score.
Speaker 2:International race down in Ensenada, mexico. Awesome time down there. Bryce Menzies and Orin Anderson were the big winners in the trophy truck and overall. Brock Hager and Ethan Groom one in the UTV Unlimited class. Oh, excuse me, mark Burnett and his MB Motorsports Off-Road team. They were the winners in the UTV Turbo class. They'll be coming on the show as well as Bryce and Orin. And man, there was some pretty good showstoppers out there.
Speaker 2:So we're going to talk with the Class 11 boys Tim Slayton and Pete McLeod. We're also going to talk with one of the all-time favorites. He got so many views on his clips James Dean Dude. He was just sending it in the Terrible Herbs Motorsports trucks. I think Brian Moore might join us as well. He's the one getting all the bangers for everybody. But it'll be cool to talk with everybody.
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Speaker 2:We got to see everybody. Like I said, the sand show was Rad, but this show is going to be about the Baja 400. So we're going to wait and get Orin Anderson on and Bryce Menzees, the overall winners and talk with them a little bit and see how the race went. We might even have a special guest today too, so and she's blonde, so we'll see if how she's doing as well. So, yeah, so let's get Bryce and Orin on real quick here and we'll talk with the boys and see how they how their race went. And they were hauling the mail too, so it was pretty cool to see. All right, orin, I'm accepting you now. So there we go, buddy. Orin Anderson. What's up, dude? How's it going? Buddy, good to see you again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you too, dude. It was kind of crazy down there at the well at the finish line. It was down there at the starting line, tech, all that stuff. You guys were busy, dude, just winners all day.
Speaker 4:Oh man, you know the people that you know race had obviously know how chaotic it is, but there's like a million things going. You got a million things going through your head Like just getting a hello out. You know is hard sometimes, so it's always good to see you down there at the start and finish and catch up for a little bit. Wish we had more time, but yeah, totally.
Speaker 2:So there was a couple of things that I wanted to ask too, because we talk about, like, the pace of the trophy trucks now a lot Like we've been talking about it. Dude, we probably over talked it for you guys because you guys are used to it, but to me it seemed like I don't want to say that it's starting to even out, but it seems like maybe the way to put it is you guys yourselves, you and Bryce are getting more consistent at going at that top level speed and you're getting more used to it. Is that kind of true, or like, how does it feel in the truck?
Speaker 4:I mean it, it feels fast. I mean it feels like we're going at a really quick all day, so like it used to be where you'd push a little bit and then felt like you could back down and kind of run a consistent pace. But there was, you know, a few really fast trucks out there for most of the day that are running that same like push almost qualifying pace the whole time. I mean we were all within what? 45 seconds physically apart at the end Crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, totally it was pretty wild. Bryce Menzies, what's up, dude, how are you?
Speaker 5:What's happening, guys? Sorry, kids were running a little wild side. It took me a second to get on here.
Speaker 2:Hashtag DadLife.
Speaker 5:Yes, yes, it's taken over.
Speaker 2:How has it been, since you guys both have a newies?
Speaker 5:Oh man, it's unreal. In the now, to have a or be a dad is something special. I always tell people until you have a kid you really don't know what it's like. So it's pretty cool to relate and have some stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Have your guys kids yet have a chance to meet yet, or no, not yet. Dude, that's probably going to be pretty wild right.
Speaker 4:We were hoping to at the 400, but that didn't work out. But yeah, I can't wait, man, we already FaceTime each other back and forth and I let at the 400,. I was showing his daughter Carson pictures of my little girl Brantley, and she was pretty psyched about some of her toys. So hopefully I can. That's perfect.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, she's got better toys with me and then dad has to go out and get different toys. You guys got to be careful what you show them.
Speaker 4:That's different toys. All right, I'm a better game that gets out of hand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, totally All right. So let's talk about the Baja 400 a little bit. Guys, we were just talking about, like we've mentioned Pace so many times, like it's the pace of the trophy truck class questions kind of getting out of hand. But I was talking to Orin a little bit and it seems like you guys are getting more used to going that pace and Orin was like man, it's hard because everybody else is kind of getting used to that pace. And I noticed there was also another blue truck out there with some Red Bull logos with the number 31 on it and it was probably tough keeping him behind you at Bay going that pace too.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I knew, with him qualifying a little bit far back, that it seems like nowadays it's Luke, me and if we don't really have a problem, it's hard to track us down. And then I know Andy being in the mix, I knew it was going to be us three fighting for the win. So it was all day long Kind of. The pace is honestly getting so fast where it seemed like a couple years ago you could push, let it calm down for a little bit, regroup, and now it's like you're pretty much kill mode almost the whole time. So unreal the pace we're running, how these guys can maintain keeping the truck on course, and that's why it seems like you have to have a guy in the right seat that you trust on and you could communicate with and do your homework, because you miss one call and you're going to be either hurt or you're going to be totally in a truck.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's pretty wild, right. Obviously don't want that bad juju after the race either. So, like, and with that, though, like I kind of feel like the track was getting broken up a lot. I mean, I saw a bunch of stuff on social media, but didn't it feel like some of the big rocks and stuff were just all of a sudden popping up out of nowhere?
Speaker 4:That's the hardest game is playing Chase, especially on. Like you know, we're pre running daily down there, so we're coming, you know, confident, into a section. It's like, all right, remember, there's a rock on the right around this corner and you could come around and it's dead center now, or it's in the left right, like it changed daily, where all the big rocks were.
Speaker 2:It's kind of crazy. Does that mean that you have to? Just, I don't know. I feel like Bryce's eyes are just not blinking, like are you just wide open the whole time, just concentrating, just focus, focus, focus. Yeah, it seems like.
Speaker 5:Lately the game has changed where people were pre running in their pre runners and now it's people are pre running in their second trucks, race trucks. So the course is developing so fast where if you miss a day of pre running you're going to be in the race and all of a sudden that rock that was on the right is now in the left right, or that ditch that was a checkup one is now a checkup three. So it's just insane that the level of commitment that everybody's put into the sport, what we got to go do to go win these races is is on a different level and it's cool to see. But it also is tearing up the desert so much that me and Orton, about halfway through, we are going dang man. We both have headaches from just jarring and hit, ramming into stuff. But it's really cool to see where our sports going, the level the competition has gotten to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, does that mean it changes? Well, I don't know how to even put this statement, but, like, focusing is really hard, no matter what happens, right, like you could, it's hard to focus at your computer desk, right, and then add in going 130 miles an hour or whatever it is with rocks and all of this other stuff, like. To me that seems like the level of focus is also really has to improve when you're having those. Well, I mean, you're full kill, right, like Orton. How is it managing all that in the passenger seat? Because you got to manage yourself and Bryce.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm managing like we do. I think we do a really good job of just getting a lot of information when we're pre running. So I'm just, I'm just give hopefully just giving him reminders. Hi Carson, hey Carson, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Go back up there, sup, the superstar right there. Hey, you guys want to just let Carson talk? We'll talk about racing later.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so you're right, like I guess it is. It isn't because you're, you got all that homework done, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I don't need to help Bryce with pace or how to drive right. He knows how to do that just fine without me. But if I can just give him information, you know, hopefully just a little reminder so he can keep his pace up, that's all I'm trying to do from my side is just take the surprise out of it. And one thing that, like you know, as I've been in the right seat with a bunch of different people like and not to toot his horn, but Bryce can process stuff like on the fly way faster than I can and faster than like every guy I've raced with before. So it's like we'll be pre-runner section at 95 miles an hour and he'll switch lane to a lane I never even saw it because we're going so faster there and it's like how did you see this? He's like, oh, I've seen that the last two days through here.
Speaker 4:I just finally wanted to try it. It's like I can't even my he's. We're already committed 200 feet into a new line before my brain even processes we switch. It's a next level of, you know, of vision and processing for some of these trophy truck guys that I couldn't keep up with. So I'm no help there. But if I can have a note where I can tell him hey, in 500 feet, you like this before. That's my only goal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that's exactly where I was going. I'm glad you were talking about that, like. So that's kind of where I was going to lead the question back to you, bryce. Well, we got a couple of questions that are comments and stuff that came in too. So Victor Tacoma actually said Bryce Menzee's drive with a calmness like on a freeway, he is the best. And Andy McMillan everyone else drives desperately under pressure. Well, we actually talk about this sometimes on the dirt life show, like like you just said, or in Bryce's a breed on his own right.
Speaker 2:The way that you can process and hold yourself together really makes it like a race car driver, right, like. So an example was is I I thought I was a great race car driver, right, I'm just driving a slow UTV. I drove in Lucas off road series. You know I won races and different things like that. I'm like, oh cool, like I can drive pretty well. And then I sat in the passenger seat driving around with Rob McCacken at an event that Warfighter made did, and I was like dude I'm not even barely in the novice class dude Like the way that he sits there with just full calm and he's barely moving and his feet are barely moving, and I can see what you're talking about when you talk about how Bryce works as well, because I don't know, bryce, how does it feel in your head when you're being able to process information that quickly and you're able to just move so slowly?
Speaker 5:I would say it came one time I mean at the very beginning. It was challenging. But after so many years, so many times, and I just feel like I'm on the truck and things don't really like upset me to where I freak out and start driving where my mind is, I just am very calm and process things and have a have a goal of getting the truck to the end and also relying on the guy in the right seat to give me the right notes, be a therapist at times to calm me down. It seems like we work really well, Just being smooth. I think learning from a single buggy with limited power and just knowing that if you scrub any speed or if you make big movements you're not going to go win those races in that class. So that really helped me is from starting in a limited class and then stepping up into a big class that I took all that. I learned from that and put it into effect as well.
Speaker 2:We got a comment from BJ that said Bryce. What did he say? Bryce couldn't back out of our garage without accidentally hitting the house.
Speaker 6:At least everybody knows how to wipe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Perfect. We also said had somebody commented saying that after show celebration at the compound was pretty sick too. Like the motivation and the happiness was like all I could see. Like we couldn't see your face but I could see a smile on your face the way that you come into the house. That was pretty sick.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we, we won the 500 and that was the first time my dad had our pilot put the helicopter down in the compound and then this time I knew that it was going to be there and last time I kind of just slid the truck in and I came in hot. This time I knew I didn't have front drive as we lost front wheel drive at the end. So I came in and knew I could do a donut and I wanted to do three donuts because that was our third consecutive win the ball 400. And I've done so many donuts and shows and little stuff with my pro too. So I have a very good depth perception of where the truck is. And I saw my dad and he was freaking out, but I believe I was still at least over a foot and a half away from the helicopter. So we were clean, we were good. They have the whole team there and then have Andy there and my family and my wife and my daughter was something special.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that's super cool. Yeah, and the space and time thing, like that goes back to what we were talking about Orin, like he just knows right, like that has to grow with experience and stuff. Hey guys, so we have a special guest on, so Bella Bershard. She has been helping with the dirt life. How are you, bella?
Speaker 3:I'm great. How are you?
Speaker 2:So we're doing awesome. So, orin and Bryce, if you guys don't know, bella now has her own segment of the dirt life show and she's talking to the youth and stuff like that. She does it once a month and so she's kind of practicing and getting all her things together and she wanted to jump on and ask you guys a question.
Speaker 5:Awesome, Hi Bella. Hi Hi Bella. That's amazing that you're doing this and it's so cool to bring the youth and do it and help, help them come up, and they need just as much show as we do.
Speaker 3:Yep, because that's where we all started. But first of all, congratulations to both of you guys, because that's, that's crazy. I'm very proud, yeah. So, throughout those 400 miles, what was the biggest obstacle, you guys overcame.
Speaker 5:I would say for me was probably losing front drive and knowing that Luke was only about a minute behind me and knowing that if I got a flat tire or some little issue and Luke got by that it would be very hard to keep him within those two minutes. So, processing that in my mind and just trying to be smart and not make any mistakes, the last 200 miles was probably the biggest obstacle I had to overcome in the race.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's. How do you even deal with that stress Like just knowing that someone's right behind you chasing on you.
Speaker 5:Probably just over years of usually I freaked out and I've learned that just trying to stay calm and then also having a guy next to you that you feel really confident in Knowing the truck and what it could do in a two wheel drive that I've raced so many times, and just trying to be smart, think big picture instead of trying to win the race every mile. Look at the long term of trying to get the truck to the finish and I think just 16 years of racing has helped me process all that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's my full lifetime 16 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Bella I mean, like Orrin, the calmness, I think is what is the main thing that Bella should be looking for right Is trying to stay focused and calm in the vehicle.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, getting excited or getting upset, that doesn't help anything out at all. Right, you're just going backwards at that point and that's something if you have somebody that you trust sitting next to you, like Bryce and I kind of feed off each other, so like there's times where I hope I'm helping keep him calm, but he helps keep me calm too, and we just kind of get on the same page Like, oh, no big deal, that's 45 seconds. They got to make that up. We're still going fast and you know, can you talk to each other off the ledge to where you just keep making smart race decisions and not doing anything silly that puts you on the sideline.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just desert. Mentality regulating emotions? Oh yeah, let him out.
Speaker 4:Let him out at the end, not during the race.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool, bella. So you're learning as you are hosting the show. That's pretty sweet man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, just taking it back. There you go.
Speaker 5:It's funny hearing you say that I've been racing as long as you've been old, because I felt the same way when I was racing with Rob McCackeren and he was telling me how long he's been racing and I just was in my first or second year. So it's been full circle, and now I'm that older guy that's saying the same things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and I eventually hope to get there too. I know like all this stuff me doing, george, and like interviewing people that's going to get me places, but I want to be that for somebody that's younger and especially like bringing all the youth, because that's where we all kind of started.
Speaker 5:So that's so awesome of you. I really appreciate you putting in all the effort and the work, because the youth is where it is at and we got to keep them coming to keep this sport alive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:All right, Bella Lauren, what you got going on and what's going on with your next show.
Speaker 3:Um, so we got some people coming on. Um, it's October 11th, so it'll be every Wednesday, the first Wednesday of every month, but we're just interviewing a bunch of like new people new faces, old faces kind of just talking about where everybody started and where everyone's you know five year plan is and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:It'll be cool. Thanks, bella, we'll see you guys later. Tell hi, tell everybody in your family Hi.
Speaker 3:Hi guys, bye, bye, see you later.
Speaker 5:I said meet you. Bye, bella.
Speaker 3:Bye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you guys for answering all her questions. Um, yeah, it's really cool to see, like, uh, the youth and the progress and stuff. Like, do you get to feel that same um, I don't know vibe and stuff when you're down there in Baja, cause last show that we talked about, when, uh, you won the Baja 500, uh, we talked about how, uh, everybody was so excited at the finish line, right, you got squirted with a beer and all this crazy cool stuff. Um, do you get to see the other portion of it where you're seeing, uh, people that look up to you, people that are wanting to be a sponge and, you know, get uh information from you guys as well, so they can be fantastic professional racers.
Speaker 5:I would say, uh, yeah, of course. Uh, I get a ton of stuff, whether it's, um, just Instagram messages or people running up to me and talking to me, and and I always try to put in the time and work to talk to them, write them back, just because I was that kid once. I was a kid that came into the sport had no idea what I was doing. Me and my dad showed up to the first race with a truck and a trailer and, uh, I never raced an off road car in my life. So, um, I was one of those kids asking those same questions, and, and the people that helped me and taught me, um is the way that I want to be. I want to make sure that I give the same, or more, back to the sport and to the youth because, um, I truly believe in that if, uh, if, if we keep, um, you know, answering the questions, making the right decisions for these kids, that it is just going to get better and better as it goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. And then, like with all the technologies coming out and you know, live streaming and all of these different things that are happening, I feel like they can see it and then, once you say it, they'll have a visual connection to it. So there's a lot that goes on behind all that. So I'm pumped for the future of off road, for sure. Um, so let's talk about the race a little bit, because we got about five minutes before we get Mark Burnett on. Uh, he was the pro turbo UTV winner. Um Orrin, what was the some of the stuff that you had to uh focus on the most? I mean, obviously Bryce said that you guys lost front wheel drive. What were the things that you were busy with during the race?
Speaker 4:So early on, you know it was just dealing with uh like the course was super dry, everyone been pre running so much there's a lot of dust. So early on it was just making sure that I got all the notes out that we had. You know, just like didn't miss anything on my calls and focus on that, because we were driving blind for a lot of the time. And then there was a fun section at about uh, before we got into valley T, like come down the the goat trail, we knew we were close to a few guys physically right in front of us and we knew a lot of people had some pits set up before the Mike Sky Ranch loop. So it started. You know it was fun, like going, well, hey, you know we got to, we can play some pit strategy right here, normally in the front you'd, you know, running with Bryce, like we just run our pit strategy, so you hope we have enough gap to get out in front of the guys behind us. But now it's like if we stop here and not over here, maybe we can get somebody in the pit. So it was, you know, managing that, what we thought the competitors next move was going to be and then trying to base it off what we could see them doing on the, on the pavement section, the speed zone ahead of us, like that was fun, I enjoyed that. And then you know just regular race stuff, trying to call out notes and uh and make sure there's nothing that we didn't something, anything that changed the night before the race or animals and stuff like that. And then just being you know supportive of of Bryce when the front, when the front diff did go away, I mean it's like from the pasture seat it feels like he's trying to drive with something dragging the front brakes. So when it sets up for a corner and lays into the throttle it doesn't just drive around, it feels like that the rear ends trying to pass you the whole time. So you know me trying to be supportive, you know side chick you, you got it.
Speaker 2:Probably did feel kind of crazy, like you almost probably needed the support right, bryce, to like twist your brain and actually dealing with it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, 100%. When we first, uh, I felt it going um a little bit earlier and I just didn't want to put it in my head and didn't want to think that. And then, uh, we finally got Luke after the crossover, where, first on the road and literally right when we jumped off the pavement, I stood on the gas and the rear came around and I'm like, oh I, that was the first time I said it I was like I think we lost from driving Orn's, like no dude, this is just really slippery right here. And I'm like, no, I felt this before. So, um, just knowing that and just trying to play it smart, and we've had that happen before. So, uh, like you said, you got to both work together and balance it back and forth. But, um, yeah, that was an interesting one for sure.
Speaker 2:Dude. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Hey, real quick. So we have a couple of questions that came in, uh, the first one was madfab. Moversport says uh, how far from the finish did you guys lose the front drive?
Speaker 5:Um, so we lost it right at the end of the crossover road. So I want to say that is, what is that Orn?
Speaker 4:to 10, to 15.
Speaker 5:Yes, right in the middle to 30, I think, is when you hit the pavement, so like to 40, something like that. When we jumped back on the dirt is where we noticed it went away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was about 60%. So you had basically half the race that you had to drive there. They, that's actually pretty impressive that you're talking about that now, when you said, uh, you know you're trying to manage having, uh, the guys behind you, that was probably pretty difficult, cause I used to always have a hard time going from 250 to 125 when we were racing dirt bikes. Right, that's the same type of thing, right, cause you're used to having all of this action and driving style. Then all your muscle memory goes away and you have to completely drive different. The good thing that you're lucky to do in two wheel drive stuff and short course stuff, cause you can adjust on the fly.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was huge Just just knowing that and, um, I think that really helped out. A ton is just. I had to upshift a ton and put it in third and fourth year where I would be in first year in corners and just let the motor do the work and not burn the tires off cause we were going to run tires long. So, um, a ton of different stuff that over the years I've just learned how to, how to handle it, what to do, um not try to slide the truck in, drive in hard off easy. Um, a lot of little things that I think really helped us out with. And then also just the pressure man, knowing that Luke was, I want to say, at times he got down to like 40 seconds and an Allen was only 40 seconds behind him. So, um, knowing they were there for 180 miles was very tough.
Speaker 2:But we pulled it off, Dude. Yeah, that's crazy. Uh, just one Baja also asks uh, is Andy McMillan racing with Bryce out in the Baja 1000?
Speaker 5:Yes, for sure. Uh, we've been trying to do that for the last three years. I've been trying to do that for 13 years. So when the ball 1000. So me and Andy are going to team up again. Um, and that's why we race two trucks just for a starting spot, because if you don't start near the front, it's going to be very hard to win one of these races from a peninsula run. So, um, Andy will be jumping in the truck for sure.
Speaker 2:Uh, actually this is a good technical question and I don't know if you'll be able to answer this, orrin, but uh, simon Trophy borough said why did Toby have to pull out of the race with a broken front diff, but Bryce could keep going? I think it's a little bit different situation, but can you give any expertise on that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, different parts failed. On the end he had something more catastrophic, like the, you know the actual like gears inside fail, whereas we had something a little bit smaller fail that just lost the drivability, so it wasn't like fluid wasn't leaking out. We've had that happen before where we drained all the oil out of a front diff. That does park you no matter what, but uh, but yeah, we just got lucky. It was a minor. You know what the issue was? Minor versus his seem to be a little more catastrophic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it still amazes me that the trucks can actually put up with what they do Like. I mean, even though I know that they're growing and they're getting better and better, but like holy cow, the amount of abuse that they take and they can hold up is just mind blowing. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5:Uh, I'm so fast nowadays that, uh, I don't. I don't know how these trucks hold up, especially for a short race where it's 400 miles. I mean, we're going kill mode the whole way, where you know we were going through sections and orange like man. We're running qualifying pace right now, so it's crazy that these trucks even handle that.
Speaker 2:Do you guys remember, like uh, or do you even know what the top speed you guys got up to in the race was, or any of the uh? I don't know, cause it just seems so fast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like one one thirties was top speed, but I'd say like our overall pace is just so fast, like we're boogieing through the mics loop, like you know, just Bryce's, bryce's work in the wheel over there. I mean, that's sawing through all the the tight technical stuff I think is where we really picked up a lot of time, because everyone's trying to push hard and make up time through those sections and like just overall, it just seemed like everywhere like we just had to, like I had to be on all day. It wasn't like notes were rolling down slowly, it was like go next note, next note, go bam, next thing, next thing is just crazy.
Speaker 2:We're both your guys brain or in your answer first, since you just talked about it, we're both your guys brains. Pretty fried at the end.
Speaker 4:I like through Europe and Europe and is the most stressful section of the race. So, like I, that's like high stress. You finish all this fun coast stuff, then you hit your pan and then like just getting through that. After getting through that with no issues, like oh my God, this like pretty much feels like you're finished with the race. But it's like just survive that part. But yeah, like it takes so much focus for eight hours to keep up with the pace Bryce is driving. He's nuts.
Speaker 2:Was your brain fried at the end, bryce, or were you doing okay?
Speaker 5:No, it was. It was pretty fried. I mean, I tried to tried to drink and eat as much as I could, but then I got a. I got a massive headache and that was really bugging me. But, like Orrin said, the pace that we're running, like if you take your mind off the ball for one second, you're crashing, you're hurting each other. So you got to be focused 110% the whole time. Nowadays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, totally All right. So Travis coin also had a great comment that he said 169 miles per hour all day, dude, all right boys. Well, thank you very much. Throw a shout out to the some of the people that helped you. Obviously, I know you guys want to shout out to your family as well.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean obviously my team. They prepped two trucks. This is the first time that we ran two trucks and we had both of them finished, first and third. So my team, all my guys at the shop, obviously Orrin for putting in all the work. We were down there for over a week pre running, every single day, waking up early, getting in late. Our bodies were sore. And then obviously all my partners that helped me out. Red Bull has been with me for 13 years. Amsoil, toyota tires has hugely stepped up their game to get only one flat on the run. And then Andy had zero flats, fox shocks just everybody helps me out. I couldn't do without them. And obviously my family for coming down. That's what keeps them motivated to get to the finish. Seeing my daughter cheer me on is something very special.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's the best right. All right, orrin, you hit the, hit the, take the floor.
Speaker 4:Same same deal. I mean the effort that the Menzies Motorsport team, all the shop guys, have put in this year. I mean zero major issues with any truck at all. I mean pre runners have been flawless, race trucks have always been flawless. And to do that too this time like people don't understand how much work that is to make an all wheel drive truck, which is already insanely complicated, you know issue free for hundreds upon hundreds of miles every time we take them out driving at qualifying pace.
Speaker 4:So really, I mean they're my hats off to those guys. They're they're kicking butt and probably the best crew, I think, out there and it's an honor to be a part of that. And then, yeah, it's great to. You know I didn't have my family down there with me this time. You know I always love having my wife carry down there, but her father, jim, passed away a couple of weeks before this one. So to do this race and really to do it as a tribute and and to honor him and go out and get to have awesome results and kick butt and bring home a win for him. It was a very meaningful for me and everyone back here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our condolences and everything like that, but we really appreciate you guys being such a humble and awesome human being, so we'll let you guys get back to the family and thank you guys very much.
Speaker 5:Thanks for that.
Speaker 2:Congratulations, boys. All right, so we're going to get Mark Burnett of MB Motorsports on. He was the pro UTV winner. Congratulations to Bryce and Oren for doing such a fantastic job on course as well as off course and just being good human beings in general. It's always good to see we love the off road community so much. So let's, let's try and see if we can get Mark Burnett. Hey, mark Burnett what's up, dude?
Speaker 6:How are you?
Speaker 2:doing Awesome bro. How are you?
Speaker 6:Good driving in traffic down here in San Diego, california, right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the way it goes, dude. When you're a winner, though, the traffic doesn't stop for you. I don't know about that, but okay dude, it was pretty cool to see you on the top step of the podium, though I didn't get to talk to you much. I wanted to have tacos with you and everything. But, dude, you put in a lot of work to get to that point. You've been racing for a long time and it probably felt really good.
Speaker 6:That felt awesome. You know, my team you just you know really worked hard. We had, you know, some issues in the race but then overall we we brought home the win. We knew our game plan, the cars coming together. The new car we have is finally coming together. We have some important parts on the car now that are just amazing, made the world a difference for my axles and stuff like that. So to go to Vegas Tarino we knew when we went to Vegas Tarino we had no issues. I gave the car to my partner and we knew I was all smiles, you know, from there I knew it was my first time not replacing any belts, no axle problems. I knew when I was coming down to the Baja 400 that it would come out well at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:It's just such a I mean, we were just talking about it with Orin and Bryce, like it's it's the amount of effort that goes into just getting a vehicle across the finish line is pretty phenomenal, right, and you have a good team with you and you're going to be able to support your own things. But it everybody has their issues and you've had a couple this year and now you come across the finish line first. That means like I don't know. It's got to feel like I don't know a victory in itself just across the finish line, let alone win.
Speaker 6:It was. It was like emotional thing. You know we could lead the race, you know a lot, lot just last year and this year, but we could never finish, you know, and be on the top of the box or or having it, not have an issue. So to have that, you know, to make it to the finish line. We did have an issue at 190. We had an issue with the transmission and we were just praying that we make it to the finish. So we're really excited about, you know, making it there and the results.
Speaker 6:You know I mean I was full of emotions, you know I, you know, with things that's happened in my life last three years, it's just been really rough and and we knew we could do it and I know I have the team that can do it and you know this thing is dedicated to those guys. The team, you know, has been, you know, with me so long and they deserve this more than me. I mean they're there all the time, you know, not seeing us win or have a problem with the car and it's frustrating. They get bummed out and to get this win, I think all those guys are just it, just big black cloud just went by us and we're really happy and we learned a lot. So I think at the thousand we're ready. I think that there's a couple of other things we got to do to the car, but we know we have the speed. We just we didn't have all the everything in line to make it work, so right now you know that's what we're doing.
Speaker 6:We're looking forward to the thousand and just trying to focus on on the win. I've never won on a UTV. I've never won the ball 1000. I've won it on a bike and a truck, but I've never done it in a UTV. So it's something that haunted me for a while and I would love to go down there and win. It's going to be a lot of mileage. It's going to be. I just saw the course, we marked the course and we do stuff with score and the course. You know it's going to be 1300 and eight miles.
Speaker 2:Holy crap Really.
Speaker 6:Yes, yeah, a lot of people don't know that Bryce is probably going what yeah? It's bottom mileage and I was going to ask him you know what happens at the diff? The front diff blows on that thing at. You know that many miles Do you have to replace it? Do you just keep driving on it, or what? I was wondering the same thing. Those things are worth over a million dollars, you know. So I was that's a question of the day, what happens there.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I got you. Well, that brings in, like, if it's 1300 miles, that brings in a whole another. I want to talk about the 400 real quick too, but the like a whole. Another logistical thing because parts expire, especially in desert racing right. So whether it's a radius rod or a front differential and a can am or a trophy truck, like, there's a logistical thing that's going to probably happen and change with the Baja 1000 because it's such a long race.
Speaker 6:Oh, yes, it is. I think there's going to be pitting strategies. You know we're going through San Felipe. You know the people that know San Felipe. You know the people out there know it are going to be ahead of the people that don't know it. There's a lot of lines there and a lot of stuff that you know that's at the end of the race. I mean, you're looking at 250 miles from the finish, pretty much from there. So it's going to be a challenge to see. You know things are going to change. If somebody's leading the race they can change in that it's definitely going to be changing there for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even if you're at 1200 miles and you're smoked, you could still have the opportunity to lose that bad boy. Todd Zacon keeps commenting. In a couple times he said you need to have some strong trannies.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm going to keep that right now.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a funny one, though Everybody keeps laughing in the comments. I know you're paying attention to traffic, but so during the 400, bella Bershard just came on and she asked the question to the boys Bryce and Oren what was the most difficult portion of the race? Can you answer that same question?
Speaker 6:I'm going to tell you that's really easy. For me and I've done this many, many times. It was European. European was the most stressful thing I could think of. It was really bad. The terrain was really. It really was up and bad and definitely something that was the worst I've seen in a long time. You know, I marked the course, like I said, and I've seen everything in that by far is the worst I've ever seen it. The four wheel drive trucks and all these trucks. They have beat that stuff up so bad.
Speaker 6:So, many people are running now and people out there know I mean, look at Herbs, where it was silt over there. He went off the side, he got towed out, rolled the truck, I mean it was. It was dramatic, it was bad and we knew that going into this race that it would be bad there and we were just trying to, you know, get through that section. And it was brutal and we made it through it. I was very, I was very happy that we made it through it and that was definitely the section. European was the hardest, of the course, Everything else, I think for me it was easy.
Speaker 2:It wasn't hard Totally, and so driving a UTV. We have tons of people that listen to the show and UTV. Some like are just enthusiasts too. They're not racers. It's hard for me to even explain because I pre run all kinds of miles down there. But can you give the best description to, let's just say, me I'm going into a UTV dealership and I'm going to buy my first UTV and I say I want to go down to Baja and I say what's the difficult portion of the race? And you say you're a pan. Can you describe to me the gnarliness and how it feels driving a UTV down there to a beginner like somebody like me?
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean in that section, if you had to go through it after we went through it or after pre running. I mean the track changed so much from the day and I'm talking Friday to Saturday of the race. I mean it's you know, you just gotta watch yourself, take your time through the rain, ruts and and be okay, going through everything and and that's the biggest thing and keeping a spare tire with you and plugs and just being prepared when you're in Baja. You gotta prepare for everything. You never know what you're gonna see down there or happen. I'm sure you can relate to that. I'm sure you had a tire or something go bad.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 6:And especially if you're by yourself, you know you want to bring food, water, and I mean even matches. I mean we've been out there before. We had to spend the night in the middle of nowhere, you know. So when you're buying a car, just take your time and, and you know, don't think you're, you know, price men's are going through the section. You know, I mean I think that's, you know, taking your time through there. I mean it's just like the Trove trucks tell over her. I mean you saw it, you help them out, they're probably going to. They went on the edge and it just dropped into that little section right there and it and it happens, it happens to the best of us and they were probably pushing and that section. You kind of kind of take your time through there to just get, just get navigate through that silk bed and just go from there.
Speaker 2:So it's kind of crazy to think, right, what's up, stoke to shred when you, when you like, because they didn't do anything wrong, right, like they were just doing their thing, and like and that happens to all kinds of racers right, like, let's just say, I don't know, 60 out of 100 racers, you're just doing your thing, and then Baja wins at some point, right. So it's kind of crazy, and I like the fact that you're telling everybody to I don't know how to say it like mind the gap right, like be careful, tread lightly, like be methodical at what you're doing. How do you do that as a race car driver, though? Because you have to have that same mindset, but you have to have it 200 feet, 300 feet ahead of you, and your navigator has to have it a mile ahead.
Speaker 6:Well, that's for sure. You know and have great navigators. You know the two guys are with me, they know what they expect of me and I expect of them. They tell me what's coming up before I even know sometimes and you just got to navigate. When you know that section is bad, you just got to let off a little bit and get through it. We were thinking for us because we're on UTVs that there would be trucks there. The only truck I did see was terrible herbs and it was on the side and it was before he got towed out. He was already on the edge and he was stuck there and he just got. All it took was his tire just slid over that little edge and he got stuck. It was an easy thing to do. It wasn't his fault and it happens, and because the rut will sometimes get you to slide off, and move off the side and then you're screwed.
Speaker 6:Even in the full drive vehicle that we're in UTV it goes everywhere, but sometimes there's holes and things that push you off to that edge, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, it's kind of crazy, right, like just to think about that. Well, actually, what was the gnarliest portion of the race? Like I don't know mentally, was it still European?
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean mentally.
Speaker 2:Well, because the mental game like the mental game has always been hard for me, like because you have to stay focused for so long, like I asked the boys, or an embrace, like where their brain smoked at the end. You were in the car for longer than they were, obviously because the pace is slower and a smaller vehicle. But I mean, like I still don't know how you guys do it. How do you stay focused for that long?
Speaker 6:It's not that bad when you have an issue, that's when things go bad. I mean, at 1 90 we were about to call it quits, we stopped, talked for like 10 minutes and we were on the side of the course. Are we going to go down this hole? And you know where we had to go down, about 200 or whatever it was down this area. We were worried that if we did break there we would have to get towed out for one. But there's only one little single line, so they'd be pushing us off the, off the cliff. And you know, get out of the way. They don't mess around, you know. I mean they don't. You know the trophy trucks and stuff, they don't mess around in the way of the things, in the way of the course. So we were.
Speaker 6:I was thinking, oh god, we're going to go down here, we're going to have an issue, and I was just praying to get through there. So I was mentally drained it after 190, thinking that I'm going to lose this race, leading the race because of an issue. And it made it. So I'm just so happy that it made it. But that's not going for me. But keep in focus. If you don't have problems, it's not that bad, you know. I mean I've been in it, I've Ironman the Baja 1000 numerous times, to the point, and that is definitely draining. That's a lot of miles and you're in the car over 30 something hours, so it's really hard, especially when you're old dude it's hard, you know.
Speaker 2:I could only imagine, like, what do you do to? This is actually will help me and a lot of people that listen to the show. But what do you do to get over that? Like so you're at 190 and you're like, oh, whatever, we're going to call it, quits f this, my brain's fried. And then what do you do? Just take a deep breath, shake it off and then just get back on the race course exactly what I did.
Speaker 6:I I basically took a deep breath and held it pretty much all the way to the finish, just the cross fingers to get it to the finish line. So you know, I felt like I was in Vegas to Reno when I was qualifying for the race and, and this happened in the situation, so I was pretty stressed out, I was pretty bummed out, but at the end it worked out and and you know we're, we're looking ahead, you know. So you just kind of breathe. You know, just deal with it. It's ball racing, it happens. I've been racing off for a long, long time down there.
Speaker 2:So I know, you know there's goods and bad and you just got to go with it and roll the dice sometimes dude, I give you such mad props for doing that like you're making it sound like it's pretty easy to do, but I know that there's a lot that goes behind all that stuff and just in your head like so you have to beat those demons before you even get behind the wheel again yo for sure.
Speaker 6:I was telling my code driver my code. I was talking to me at the end and I told him I go to ice and he's talking about transmission. He's talking about this and I'm I'm like, hey, shut the hell up, we got only five more miles, 10 more miles, don't open your mouth. And I was laughing, he was laughing at me and I go, don't even say a word, I just want to get to the finish. Then you can stop to me. I'm not going to say a word until I get to the finish. We're just counting down the miles, just hoping that we made it there, you know, without issues yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6:Like sometimes it just takes that clear mind and just just laser focus on what the job is at hand yes, that's exactly what it is and, like I said, it, we made it and, like I said, we're, we're just happy to, you know, be there and finally pull something off. You know we, like I said, we've led the races before but we've always had an issue and I think with the new car we got the new car blues worked out. I think we're going to be a threat for the thousand and you know, you know, I know the course really well and I really that you know we'll be there at the end of the day, hopefully yeah well, you're always a threat when you're on course, dude, so give yourself a little bit more credit than that.
Speaker 2:But anyways, we got to get the class 11 guys. On last question for you what was the best tacos you had when you were down there?
Speaker 6:dude, I'm telling you it's Phoenix, the Phoenix fish tacos. I need to have you come down there to go have those Phoenix fish taco place. That's the best place out there, for sure you have.
Speaker 6:You been there not yet okay, well, I'm going to take you this time. We're going to come down there and I need to talk to you about also the Starlink, with my my favorite thing of the time using it down there. So I need to talk to you about all that stuff down the road here yeah, thank you very much for mentioning that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can get together. So what Mark's talking about is some live broadcasting stuff. We have some kits and stuff that we can put on the cars just to get an eye on it. You know, what's cool about it is we figured out that it's really really good for logistics and your whole team and for safety too. So it's not just marketing. There's a lot of other stuff that it benefits.
Speaker 6:So we're pumped dude yeah, and you're the master at it. I all I've been hearing and all everybody's telling me you're the master at stuff. So you need to contact that guy right there because he's doing and he knows how to do it. So, because I'm dumber than rocks it comes to computer stuff and you're lucky, I'm even on the stupid Instagram right now hey, dude, you figured it out.
Speaker 2:We're just going to call you tech support from now on yes, you're in alright, mark. Hey, thanks for the compliments and really congratulations to you and your whole team.
Speaker 6:Dude, that was awesome to see you on the podium and I'd like to thank all my sponsors out there monster can am quantum racing, you know, very go as they help you out a lot. I mean you know there's not a lot of people out there that have been in a pretty big good way and a lot of people out there that have been there, uh, saying craft gates, belts, kwi, clutches, all staff suspension, and I mean everybody out there it's been helping me. You know, throughout the year they stuck by us and and I couldn't do without all the guys and my team, my teams, the guys there are always there for me and I couldn't do with it out those guys later, all right, so we're going to get some of the class 11 boys on here real quick.
Speaker 2:Pete McLeod, and I think we got a special guest that's going to join us, because I don't know if Tim Slatten is going to be able to come on and hang out with us. I think he's got something else going on. Pete McLeod, what's up? Dude? Going on, bro, how are you? Good dude? How are you? So Tim's not going to be able to join us.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. I don't think so. I think Clyde's going to jump on. I think Tim's a little tied up.
Speaker 2:He, we got a tag Clyde in. Is that what you said?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, so hopefully does Clyde know how to get on here.
Speaker 1:I think so. I think he's watching. I think I sent you the Instagram link, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, so let me see if we can get him on here. I'll probably have to add him just in case. I don't know if you send him the text message on how we can get on, but how was the week for you guys, dude?
Speaker 1:It was good man. You know, we started early and got our pre-running done quite a bit ahead of time and then really just took time to make sure that the car was dialed in and got ready for the race on Saturday. Lots of pre-running homework.
Speaker 2:All right, there we go. What's up, dude? You got it on Instagram now.
Speaker 8:Yeah, we're live, we live, all right.
Speaker 1:He does logistics better than that guy.
Speaker 2:Really All right. So give us a little bit of background on him.
Speaker 1:Oh, Clyde.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, clyde's. Clyde's been racing for quite a while. I mean, he'd tell you a little more about that. But as far as our program, clyde's the one who's putting together the pit books. He's letting us know where we're going to pit Pid A's here, pid B's here, pid B's here, pid C's here. If you're not here by this time, here's where you're going. We've got all the razor logistics. I mean, there's just no does it better than Clyde? And he's a huge part of the reason that we've had success down in Mexico and we couldn't do it without him. I mean, there's no question about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, well, logistics is gnarly right, but hey, so, clyde, real quick. How is it working with? Have you dealt with like trophy truck teams and other teams, or just class 11 stuff?
Speaker 8:I did. Yeah, I ran. I worked with Alex for all the years that we ran that spec truck with GHA racing, so we were pretty successful with that. I mean we got second and I think it was 2015 and the best in the desert championship we won Parker, we won, we won quite a few races. And best in the desert, we got third over third at the peninsula run in 17. So having that kind of background and understanding the pace and all that kind of stuff, so I kind of just brought that over to class 11 and it's working out pretty good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, it's working out pretty good, obviously. I mean, Pete and Tim were stoked on it, but there's a huge difference though. Like and that's kind of where I was going with that leading that question was it's wild to be class 11 compared to a trophy truck Like there? I don't even know how you would switch the logistics, because it's completely different, right.
Speaker 8:So it's a lot harder. Believe it or not, it's, it is a lot harder. You know the trophy truck, you know the spec truck stuff, you know it's it's a lot more fast paced. You know, and with that kind of stuff, and I mean the trophy truck guys will tell you, if you got to work on the car, your, your, your podium days are over. Yeah, right, you're pretty much. I mean yeah, you can go for the finish, but you know you can maybe get one or two flats during the race. But if the thing comes in and you got to do a five or 10 minute pit, it's over, right, I mean you're not, you're not going to win. And a lot of times when the truck comes in, I mean maybe you put tires on it, you put some gas on it and they're out of there. So with these things, you know and I learned it from Tim, he's got to, he's got a valid point that with these bugs it's much easier to work on it in the pit than it is in the desert.
Speaker 4:Dude totally. So every time it comes through.
Speaker 8:You know we, you know. You know what they say fast is slow or slow is fast. But we kind of got to. We have a thorough pit every time to make sure that we're not dealing with the stuff in the desert and nobody stranded out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of crazy, well, and you have to pit more often. You have to make sure that, like yeah, that's kind of crazy to even think about. All right, Pete, so give us a little bit of a rundown of how the race went.
Speaker 1:The race went good. Actually, this is probably one of the better races we've had as far as not having any downtime. We started out, me and Eric started the race. We jammed. We were jamming and Flemante was just barely out in front of us. We stayed with him pretty well. The big issue we had really already was a broken clutch cable. Outside of that was just finding the get around cars and vehicles and flip vehicles and all kinds of other stuff. But smooth, I'd say. For the most part the race went pretty flawless for us, to be honest.
Speaker 2:But do you think the?
Speaker 1:pace is getting faster. Oh, it's definitely getting faster. Class 11 is like going like this. I mean it's just it's nuts where this is going, dude, that's it's forcing everybody to build new cars lighter, faster, carbon fibers coming in the mixtures and deck lids and hoods and disc brakes and the. It's just insane where this is gone. But I mean, what piece? I don't power plant. We had issues with power all day. We could .5-degree angle and go again and just power right up it. We just have zero issues with Tim's motor. But outside of that it was a good race, just a tough one for us. But obviously we'd like to get first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, totally hey. Whoever's got the dog we got to see if we can calm him down because it keeps making the audio cutout. Hey, what pieces are carbon fiber? Dude? That's gnarly.
Speaker 1:Yes, or you're allowed to have fenders, deck lid and hood fiberglass, so essentially it's basically fiberglass pieces but it's got the carbon fiber look to it. But yeah, you're allowed to go lightweight on the fenders and the hood and the deck lids.
Speaker 2:Dude class 11's getting bougie over there, don't you think Clyde Dang yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah, it's, the pace has really come along. It's pretty wild. I got to bring up that I was listening to the guys talking about the I'm going to kill my dogs, by the way, after this but listening to Bryce and the UTV guy talking about the course and how it had deteriorated. Oh my God, dude, try doing that in a class 11.
Speaker 2:So that's how it was, yeah.
Speaker 8:These guys are talking about. The course was rough man. I pre-ran it the weekend before. I mean it was unrecognizable. I mean those big silk beds down by Colinette, I mean I was passing these trucks and stuff that were just buried to the doors. It was pretty tough but, like Pete said, interestingly enough we made it through all of it with no issues, didn't get stuck, motored up. All that stuff didn't get stuck in the silk beds or anything, which is. It sucks when you get stuck in that stuff and you're trying to figure out how you're going to get out of it, but it was reassuring to get through it without any trouble.
Speaker 2:Was it just a creative line choice or was it planning, preparation? Because a lot of times, if you just see that and you don't already have a plan, you're fucked right, like you fall into it or whatever. So what was the reason that you guys had success with it?
Speaker 8:So one of my alternate lines was blocked with some caution tape so I couldn't go that way, so I had to take the shit line. Another one it wasn't. I mean, it was fine when we pre-run and then we came through and it was just silt and you just point it and pray and yeah, I mean check this out. The two track was so deep that the car was riding on the door and like going to flip over. Really.
Speaker 5:Oh it's.
Speaker 8:Yeah, pete, am I right?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah. Now it's crazy that you do so much homework and then you get out there in the course wildly different by the time you get to it that you're just like we might as well have not even pre-run sometimes. Yeah, of course you're so chewed and so tore up from all the all-wheel drives. It's just wild by the time you get there in a class 11, it's just. You never know what's going to happen. You always have a game plan, but the game plan always goes out the window.
Speaker 2:To be honest, yeah, that's what I was going to say. Dude, I saw some I didn't see it, on course, because I wasn't out there, but on Instagram some massive rocks, I mean, dude, like a motor size rocks, like an LS block size rocks in the middle of the GO trail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, that was Pete. I came down that with Eric and, yeah, we had to pick our way through there and every time you just when you're looking at it near your pre-run or whatever you're just like.
Speaker 1:There's no way we're getting through this dude, but somehow we always find the way and we always pick our way through, and that little bug is so much more capable than anybody thinks it's capable of that thing. It just the little engine, you know what I mean. It just keeps going. There's just something I don't know. We always find a way through. So, yeah, there was a lot of talks but we managed to find our way around everything you know.
Speaker 2:Dude, we've talked about this a bunch of times like and I'm sure you guys remember but like the amount of admiration and I don't know what you want to call it, just cool factor that you guys have when you get those things across the finish line, it blows me away. I can only imagine what the fans think when they're down there, like when you got to the finish line, where people just like hooting and hollering the whole time.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, always. Yeah, that's definitely a fan favorite. It's you know, we always talk about it. I mean it's like it's trophy trucks and it's class 11. And that's the two coolest classes off road right now and it's super fun, class 11. It's fun to be a part of a big company like Baja Vita. That you know. We're just we're getting after it this year and it's been really good so far and yeah it's just that's when you're supposed to lean in with your hat on the phone.
Speaker 2:On the phone, dude, boom, they're gonna got some Baja drink right here. Here's a hot chocolate. There you go, dude, Just yeah. Oh yeah, Pete's got it on his shirt too. Just start chomping on it, dude. You're good.
Speaker 8:Well, yeah, it is. You know, when you talk about the fans, it is pretty cool, like in 21,. You know, I finished the Baja 500 and it was like I mean we were coming through back through El Host at like five, six AM and people hear a bug coming, you know, and I mean they're crawling out of their tents at five, six AM, like what the hell's that noise, you know? And they come out and they're cheering you on. And I mean, when you're literally suffering in these bugs because let's make no bones about it, it is not always a comfortable ride and so when you're kind of putting yourself through that and then you know the fans are cheering you on, it kind of makes a lot of it worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they totally. You know, I can only imagine. Yeah, cause I see all you guys and, obviously, like I've never been able to sit in a class one before which I, or class 11 before which I'd like to one of these days, so maybe when you guys are out testing, I could come.
Speaker 1:Let's go Go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would be pretty cool. What do you guys have planned next? Actually, baja 1000. Oh, that's going to be a. Did you hear what Mark said about the course I did?
Speaker 1:Miles 1308 miles.
Speaker 2:What's the longest?
Speaker 8:We did the one in 21.
Speaker 5:How long was that?
Speaker 8:one 1221,. I think 12, 1220 something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, about 1225 or so, dude, another hundred miles, that's going to end. It's at the end. That's going to be freaking brutal dude, holy shit.
Speaker 8:If we could come around San Felipe and not have to do a European believe it or not in the class 11 car, that's going to be way better. I know it sounds crazy to want to go through San Felipe. Whoops, but that's actually more doable than or a pan.
Speaker 2:It's tough. Yeah, probably less hard on the vehicles too.
Speaker 8:Yeah, those rods and stuff like that. It's just, it's just, it's just crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause you're dragging belly all the way through there, aren't you?
Speaker 8:Yep, a lot of it yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great. What about, like riding on the? I always call it the crown molding, but like you're riding on the edge and riding on the side of the tire, like can you guys do some of that stuff or not in the? Still like that.
Speaker 8:The silt. The track is so wide that it just sucks you into one or the other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you just hold on and just hope for the best.
Speaker 8:Yeah, you're just kind of doing a grind right, pete, and then, and you can't get out of the line, even if you try, you just got to, you just got to pan it and go for it. Dude, that's so wild.
Speaker 2:The closest I've ever. I would love to be able to experience that. The closest I've ever come to that is using my dad's razor 800 to pre-run on the UTV World Championship course and the tires weren't touching the ground for half the time. Just riding the belly the whole time. One, in fact one time we had to get out and push.
Speaker 8:But yeah, the peninsula run should be pretty wild. You know, Baja Vita, Baja Jerkees really, really into this. It's pretty cool to see they're. They're super fired up about it and we're still in a position to win the championship, so that's our goal.
Speaker 2:That's super cool. Does that mean that the prep starts now? Prep started on Monday. Dude, you guys are on it already. Right, let's see here we got a MTC Santiago said greeting from the team Esparuda de Encinada we are eager to compete in the Baja 1000. Are there a lot of guys that are already starting to think about doing the Baja 1000 in class 11, you think?
Speaker 8:Yeah, they were already playing it and those guys are such great competitors. We had a good run with them all of last season at the peninsula run, so we couldn't ask for better competitors. Everybody in this thing's like everybody's like friends and brothers. You know, when you're in a class 11, you know everybody has similar parts, components, steering boxes and all that stuff. I mean, they loaned us a. They loaned us a steering box at the last Baja 500. Dude, that's so cool.
Speaker 2:Pete, were those the guys that you were talking about last time? We were on the show that you guys are battling with?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, them and yeah, I mean we're always battling with those guys, and then also the Flemates, that's who won this race. They've been really dominating the last four races. Those guys are studs. But yeah, the Sarabias, those guys hats off to them. We've had a lot of good battles with those guys and you know there's a lot of good competitors in class 11. We enjoy racing them all and it's always all love at the end of the day. You know, we enjoy racing all these guys and if we could help them, we will, and if they help us, they do, and it's a really cool kind of class to be involved in Dude?
Speaker 2:it totally is, and it keeps growing on me more and more. I don't know Like I went to Cranon a few weeks ago and the amount of class 11 dudes that were over there like that was pretty sick too.
Speaker 8:Yeah, we were. I remember I don't know if it was the bolts they gave us or something they gave us some steering box components or steering box at the Baja 500. And at the same time, the reason they were there next to us is because they have broke their transmission. And Eric from the Baja Jeriki was like hey, if you want to borrow our transmission, you can take it. You know, so everybody works together. And then they were helping us replace the steering box on our car.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's so sick.
Speaker 8:Yeah, yeah, like literally right here, we're there, so it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Hey, pete, repeat what you just said, because we didn't hear you.
Speaker 1:Oh, just that, yeah that they were there helping us change that steering box. They were in the motor compartment, literally like doing the work alongside of it. It was just cool to have another team like that involved and wanting you to keep going when they're out.
Speaker 2:That is so sick. Hey, I don't know if you heard, but Mark said that we've been helping with some live streaming stuff. I know we have to build a mount, but it would be super cool to put a Starlink on one of the Class 11 cars and see you guys live too.
Speaker 1:That'd be sick, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it a little bit after the show. All right, boys, we got to get some terrible Herp skies on the show. But dude, first of all, first and foremost I say this every time Congratulations for crossing the damn finish line. That's a feat itself. But having fun and showcasing the sport is like. I always just applaud you guys for that. So throw some shouts out and then we're going to get those guys on Cool.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I mean obviously you know Baja Dricky, baja Vita. You know Sleighton, Tim's Motors. You know, I know MP does some stuff. Our whole team, man, obviously when you're doing a feat like this, your whole team. You know everybody is just important as the next guy and we have no slackers on our team. You know you got Ryan, justin, chester, monica, rudy, adrian, you know Edgar, armando Ventura, every Byron, I mean you name it. You know these guys everybody's a hustler, everybody puts in their work.
Speaker 8:Chris at Baja Vita, I mean he's the main guy over there that makes he makes all this happen. You know he kind of like turns us loose and says, ok, see if you can make this work, and so we do that. Obviously, monica, you know she's super integral to helping me with all the logistics. She's basically my right hand and she takes care of a lot of the stuff. And then also, you know I got to give Alex a GHA shout out. I mean if it wasn't for him we wouldn't even be a team. You know, because he started all this a long time ago with the spec truck and the class one. And then this guy is a psycho because he raised class trophy spec and he's the one who said hey, let's go race class 11 after that.
Speaker 2:Dude? Yeah, I remember Alex was telling us that and I was like dude, you are a psycho man. What are you thinking? He's a badass. It doesn't make any sense, total badass. All right, pete, throw your shout out.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's the same ones that he just mentioned. It's huge thanks to Baja Jerky, baja Vita. None of this would be possible without them. And obviously Tim Slettin runs an amazing program. He's built this bug and his motor. We wouldn't make it through half of this without his motor and you know, just super blessed to be a part of this team and grateful to be where we're at. And you know, clyde nailed the rest of it.
Speaker 2:So All right, two quick questions, so you guys got 15 seconds to answer both of them. Clyde, you go first. Who or how much time do you have left on that motor, or is it going to be a fresh one for the Baja 1,000? Fresh one?
Speaker 8:Fresh one, all fresh, all right.
Speaker 2:P. What was the best tacos you guys ate down there?
Speaker 1:I'm a big valley team. I like those tacos that have valley. They're dead man. I don't know. I can't find anything better than that.
Speaker 2:All right, we'll slide it in there. What was yours, clyde? I'm a Trilateral guy. Good, you guys got it All right. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate you guys joining us, and let's talk a little bit more about the live stream stuff. We'll connect after, for sure. Take care man Later, guys.
Speaker 8:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Sure, all right. So we're going to get James Dean on. We might even have special guest Brian Moore come on. So, james, go ahead and try to join. Brian, go ahead and try to join as well. Dude, it's so cool to see that everybody is just having such a good time down there. Like the amount of stress and the like all these guys have said, the amount of what do you call it, the work that goes into it and teamwork that goes into it, it's just, it's amazing. And for those guys to have such a smile on their face, whether they cross the finish line or not, it just amazes me. I love it, all right, so we're going to get James Dean on. James, what's up?
Speaker 9:Hey, how's it going.
Speaker 2:Good dude Say so. We're going to see. I think B Moore might join us as well. We'll see if he has time, but so far, how did you feel down at the Baja 400?
Speaker 9:I'll tell you what. It's a pretty surreal experience Just all the way through it. Coming through off-road racing from a big family, my grandfather started racing back in the 60s and my dad raced in, had him in the 80s and he was done. And growing up as a kid we were around all those guys the Herbs, the Collins, the McMillans, all those big names. So growing up you see a team like the Herbs and it's like a pinnacle of the sport. You got to realize and to be even allowed to drive one of their trucks. Man, like truly it was a childhood dream come true and, like I said, it was just surreal. It was one of the coolest experiences of my life, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was cool and what I like to see too is well, you kind of already gave a little bit of the background on it, but you've done motocross and dirt bikes and different things like that throughout your life, so you're used to driving in the dirt and riding in the dirt and obviously your father drives and helps out with Tim Herbs in the number 19 truck and you got the opportunity to do it for the 400.
Speaker 2:One of the things that I first noticed was I haven't really seen you in a trophy truck ever and I saw you at qualifying and you took off just like everybody else takes off. You were giving it some pepper and then there was a little chicane with some like I would call them just like whoops, but you did it like a dirt bike guy. You held the throttle and you skipped over it and you kind of preloaded and it just floated over this little crest and came down and I looked at B-more and I go no shit, that dude's ridden dirt bikes and I had no idea that you had ever done that, because that's the way you drove and I was like you can always tell a moto did.
Speaker 9:So it's actually funny to say that I really we were never allowed to ride dirt bikes growing up. We had like pilots and fancies and stuff like that, but dirt bikes were never one of those. There needs to be some force, which is crazy. Our dad always thought we'd get hurt and unfortunately there's just so many guys on dirt bikes. They're cool and I give mad props to everyone that races dirt bikes. They're one of the toughest dudes out there, but unfortunately you make one or two mistakes and it's brutal. So we weren't allowed on that, but a lot of it comes from the buggy.
Speaker 4:Oh really.
Speaker 9:Yeah, our front end is really light. I've got all the power on the back, so to keep that front end out of the hole is crucial. So you've got to learn where to place it, how to get stuff over it, and I think from there I just kind of excelled in the buggy. I drove a little hard so I learned a little bit more than I probably should have.
Speaker 2:But you would not to do.
Speaker 9:Exactly right. But I think a lot of it came from the buggy trying to keep that front end up in the air. I don't like that buggy kick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually. So that's actually a really good point. So I guess it was kind of that same style that I was seeing, Because with the trophy truck you obviously have a lot more power. With the buggy your foot's probably just smashed on the ground like just trying to get it to go, but you have to use a lot of your front end input to keep the front end off the ground, Because that's what it looked like instantly, Because you're like brap, brap, brap, brap and then you just float it over that little crest. It was so sick.
Speaker 9:No, that was cool. It was definitely, like I said, one of the cooler qualifying but definitely a really tight section. So I felt like for the spec trucks and the four-wheel drive it's very beneficial Because with a little bit too much power sometimes it just takes so much away from it Because you have too much momentum coming in in turns, you're slowing down too much and there's a lot of factors that go into it. But, like I said, it was a pretty good run. I think we got 10th, so I was pretty pumped with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, how did you actually feel behind the wheel then? So was that your first time driving a TT.
Speaker 9:So Tuesday was actually the first time ever driving a trophy truck and the Herps were generous and let me take the truck out for 30 miles. I got to drive from Ohos to K77. And I got to learn quite a bit right there but wasn't fully comfortable yet Because there's just so much faster than anything I've really driven Over 100, like it's just still pulling. There's so much power there. The paddle shifts. It's a five-speed in that truck now, so it's very spurty on the move, ready to go and a lot of power. It'll break those wheels loose at 100 miles an hour.
Speaker 2:So I noticed a couple of things Because we got to see a little bit of the live footage that we had in your truck. I noticed a couple of things Like maybe this is the thing you were talking about with the buggy. During qualifying, you pushed the front end a few times Like you were like, oh shit, this takes a little bit longer to slow down, and so I don't want to say you missed it, because you didn't actually miss the corners, but you overshot them a little bit and had to correct, overcorrect and come back in. So that's probably where the learning curve was. You just had to learn split second.
Speaker 9:Yeah, 100%. That's where in the trucks they're very tough Coming from a buggy, because our buggy can turn so well. We have a cutting break, so if it's a really tight corner we just grab it. Where the trucks have a locker and it's a little tough to figure out at first, still trying to learn it, just like you got to fully pitch it Right now more comfortable Just getting the truck side of it with the throttle, yeah Go from there, do you feel like you got a pretty good grasp on it, since you got to put in a few miles?
Speaker 9:Oh yeah, qualifying it wasn't like they have the confidence I usually have going into it. But then race day, we were a lot more calm being able to we had a couple lucky breaks and we were able to just go from. Every time we got around someone we would just drive to the next truck. And that confidence from being able to know that the pace is there and that there's a lot more in the tank Was really cool yeah well and you say you got a little bit more confidence.
Speaker 2:But I'm gonna go ahead and say that you got a lot more confidence because you were sending it pretty hard, dude. It was pretty cool that. It was pretty cool to see. So for anybody that didn't actually get to see it on On Instagram, I think this has gone viral already for the off-road community. But how was it sending a trophy truck that far, dude? Was that a mistake or were you just like, dude, I got a chance.
Speaker 9:I'm going so I mean an off-road racing, right the whole thing. You got to have some fun. You got to go out there and there's a lot of pressure once you get into these big trucks, especially with the herds. You got that live stream, so it's actually about everyone watching and the speed difference I wasn't used to. So we came in, I wanted to jump it and Halfway through the air being my coat or like, okay, that was way too fast.
Speaker 2:You're sitting in the air, holy-anus steering wheel going oh man, 100% my co-writer sitting there.
Speaker 9:I was like Shane, I was fast and he goes. I don't think we're falling yet.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess, okay. So let's talk about the buggy comparison. You couldn't have felt that good landing in a buggy.
Speaker 9:No, the buggy would have been a lot rougher of a landing. For sure, the truck on those Keings manager, just it, like it was very forgiving, landed smooth. It was. It was awesome, dude, I.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine how cool it was. And then you probably I don't know how it was, because you booked it after that you were Just hammered down after that, but could you see anybody on the sidelines going?
Speaker 9:Yeah, cuz, I mean, obviously we saw it on the videos, oh yeah oh yeah, every we came around the next turn and everyone's sitting there screaming, phones are out to hit the next jump and oh, you could hear from in the truck. It was like it's a real experience. It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's so sick man the showstopper. Has anybody said like you're trying to give you a new nickname, like sender or anything yet?
Speaker 9:No, no, nothing like that. Be more starting to call it James's jump. But Besides that and I said it's it was fun, really cool.
Speaker 2:You should. You should be pumped, because having opportunities like that don't come Very often right. And to have an opportunity like that and take advantage of it and also perform at a high level, it's very, very good. Like you should really pat yourself on the back first of all, but you should also like Understand, like how cool it is. Like all of us, myself included, if I read the opportunity, treat it the same way as you, just be humble about it and just go as like good as I can and have a bunch of fun. Bella Bouchard jumped on at the beginning of the show and she asked Bryson Orin what the most difficult portion of their race was. Do you have a difficult portion of the race?
Speaker 9:I'll be honest, there's a tight technical section after K77 before valley tee kind of knew we beat it in pre-running and everything and I still get used to the truck so seen over the hood and making the super tight corners with the front end pushing, I really struggled in that. It's definitely something I want to want to work on and try to be able to improve in. But I mean, really it was just a big comfort disc booster, like I said, we would go Every time we got around. So we just drove to the next person and I was able to figure out just be able to keep myself calm and slow down and don't push through dust, don't take chances and, like I said, no one comes from behind. So yeah, really I get in that spot. I mean, you know there, we've been there in the buggy a couple times behind my brother and I, um, but states racing and mechs racing so different way different yeah.
Speaker 9:And most your big names. Like I said, you got Bryce, you got Lou Dan Robb and Catherine Annie McMillan. You got a lot of big names down in Mexico and Prudio, but those let's so to go down there I know you can kind of run that pace in the same category was Really a huge confidence build builder and, like I said, such a surreal experience the whole thing and you got to think the Herb Shreven likes it. Allow me to be a part of it.
Speaker 2:So, uh, I'm gonna ask you another question following this. Uh, but off road pit biatch said, uh, we can make one for you, and that's a nickname grasshopper. I think he sent it way harder than grasshopper. I think rocket man would be something cool. Um, but yeah, so, having that opportunity, um, have you guys to have a debrief with any of the guys on the team, like Todd or Ryan or anybody, and Talk to them about how your experience was, or what their experience was, with you being behind the wheel.
Speaker 9:Yeah, we talked about it after the race and, uh, on my hand, like I said, I just I had. My job was make sure to get the truck to Tim. So we didn't take any chances, we didn't push and Even qualifying with the data that they pull off the trucks, it's, it's getting tough coming from a buggies. We have no really electronics, you can't tell as much and you can't lie as much either. So you got to make sure you're on it. Um, but they said that, uh, I guess it was really really cool taught and then we're all pumped. The whole crew, damian, works on the truck. He put together an amazing truck and we had zero issues. They said our qualifying room was flawless on the computer data, no mischiefs, nothing. I'm still trying to get to talk to Todd been busy with work and everything since I've been back and see how the data looks from there. But they were all pumped. Um, super, super happy. Uh, tires came off at like 80 tread. So, like I said, there was a lot of high ends on my side.
Speaker 9:Yeah unfortunately, Tim just Tim just has a lot of path luck sometimes and I feel terrible for the guy because he needs to eat. I want him to win so bad and I thought we could have been close. And it's Mexico. You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were talking about that with the boys earlier too. It is kind of crazy, man, but um, yeah, you should pat yourself on the back, like I said, because it's cool that you were able to do all that stuff. Do you have any plans on getting back in the truck? Because? Will them just uh commented in looking forward to the 1000. I don't know if that meant you or he was just looking forward to going down there.
Speaker 9:Yeah, yeah, so will is one of the pick guys. He's awesome, love him, um, but yeah, so I've been teamed up with them, or plan was to do the 1000 with them all year. Cool, it's really worked out to get some See see time and some experience in the truck. Before we went there. Not sure what section I'll be doing Once the boss man, tim, figures out who's doing what and uh and Troy, they can figure out who's gonna do what, but it'll be tim herbs, my dad and I in the trophy truck, 19 at the 1000.
Speaker 9:So super excited and can't wait for that.
Speaker 2:That's gonna be pretty cool, man and that, like I said, those opportunities don't just come up there, they're pretty cool and that's a lot of uh what do you call it level of respect that the whole team and the drivers and stuff, because they don't just let anybody come in there and do that stuff right.
Speaker 9:No, no, like I said, once you go onto the herpes team or any any team like that for that matter the pressure that gets put on you is just so much more like I've never felt so much pressure coming on this guy going into a Truck or a vehicle at all and I pulled him out. I pulled him out. I feel like this is a ton of pressure and I'm really hoping I could just help out and perform and do my, do my duty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got a lot to live up to. Hey, be more. What's up, dude? How are you Sorry?
Speaker 7:dude phone call. Off the phone call. What's up? Be more? How are you buddy? Hey how you doing.
Speaker 2:So it was funny, james, when, uh, when we were doing the live stream, uh, I was obviously not in the helicopter watching you, we were helping produce it, uh, but it was funny because, uh, I get a message on the text broadcast that we were doing and be more goes. Dude, he just hit a jump so huge and we hadn't seen it or anything. Be more, how was it seeing that thing in the air?
Speaker 7:It was. It was funny because, like we were, you know that that section, I remembered it from the, from the 500, and I didn't. I'm like, obviously, everyone's like normally kind of rolls over it and, uh, you know, corner. More obviously, I'm looking at a monitor and kind of trying to like, hey, is this working, is this working, is this working? And all of a sudden I just see like literally through the, the window of the helicopter. I seen you jump up and I look at my screen. I was like, oh my god, and it was from the air, the air actually looked at it. It's so big, so big. Uh, yeah, I, that's the official, james jumps. You know, I'm telling you it's, it's been, it's been named like that was. Uh, yeah, that was, that was sick. That's crazy. I can tell you, dude Uh, we were talking about George is like dude, no one. It's like who cares? Who wins? Dude, it's always, it's all who's. You know, the biggest jump off the dyke went for battle pram. No one cares. So I think that works for that too, as well.
Speaker 2:I think what we should do is you sent me a couple videos and I just played them for the audience and stuff, but I think we should try to see if we can get a good picture of it and then, or maybe we just even use one of those reels and see if we could submit something on the dirt life or the terrible herpes, motorsports, uh uh instagram account and see if we could come up with a nickname people submit nicknames for like rocket man or big sender or whatever.
Speaker 7:Not? Not bad for a guy that uh, with no, with no truck time, the buggy dork time and just. You got to impress him somehow, dude. I think he's got. I think you got to do that. It's impressive, it's. You know, it's funny. The just the dean family just got all the, all the talent.
Speaker 2:It's uh, save some for us, james, I know right.
Speaker 9:You gotta say something to my brother. How top of it, man.
Speaker 7:Well, I, I had, he was with me last night, we were, we were talking about it. Uh, poor guy, but uh, I felt I was like man there. Here's the downside of live stream, dude. It's like the now it's, it's stuck on the internet forever now. Oh yeah so it's fine, it's just uh, yeah, poor guy.
Speaker 2:Well, we just talked to like mark brunette and he was like dude, that's Baja, like there's nothing else that you can say. I know, that's a.
Speaker 7:That's a thing I mean. There's so many things that happen like and you know that instance, like you know it sucks that that happened, but at the moment, like it's in the moment, right Like you you're, you're in such tunnel vision like, hey, how can I get, how can I do this, this and that, whatever you know, it's funny, it was talking to as your brother about it.
Speaker 7:Actually he was like man, I was well, I almost had it out with walking the, the jackson, the truck almost out of that hole and it's like man, if it would just have been like another two minutes, it's like I could probably could have got it out without having to get trying to get told.
Speaker 9:Yeah.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and that's it's. It's awesome, like I said that, and at the end of the day, I think you know, for you know them racing for the thousand they're probably a better happier in that position anyway.
Speaker 2:So yeah, totally hey, we got some comments that come in. Uh, let's see here. Logster 337 said I love the dener boys. Uh, let's see Dean Porter said be more as beautiful. West leftler said. Oh, he's throwing in a nickname, James the jet dean Dude. I think this could be good. I think we should throw a poll together. Be more. I don't know if you want to put in that much effort on the social media side of things. But you probably get a few names in there.
Speaker 7:Oh, I mean, let's do it.
Speaker 2:It's got to be clip of the year, right? Yeah, dude. There was a lot of clips though.
Speaker 7:Yeah no it was fun. I mean the coast we finally got the coast section, do you? It's like that that hold down there, those it's so, so pretty, like, and just that's the thing. I mean people like what we're trying to show, the live side dude Like, I mean people gets erased down the beach and you know, I mean the fact that I think we're figuring, we're getting closer right, like Putting in the perspective of people are like oh, you should be doing this, you should be doing this. You know, it's like I don't think they realized, kind of we're just testing, like I think there's so much opportunity and capability, but we're just like we're getting, we're going for reliability, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had a lot of reliability though one of the utvs that was racing, I think it took them about 12, 12 and a half hours to complete the whole race and they only had, I think, three or four minutes of downtime. So it was pretty much 99%.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and I, you know, obviously like on our end, dude, I mean 150 miles an hour still getting 100 megs down like yeah did you hear that, James.
Speaker 2:They were going 150 in the helicopter and he was still getting super good starling speed. Yeah crazy.
Speaker 9:I would tell you. The live feed is gotta be the coolest thing ever. We got out and we were following Tim going up to Ohos and watching the coast live like that has got to be the coolest thing you know, people don't know, but we were.
Speaker 7:Obviously, you know that wasn't supposed to be prior or supposed to be public at all. You know we had, we had had the discussion, said, hey, look if it works, you know, because qualifying day we obviously had some issues. Yeah, that we had worked around and me and George Just I mean just trying to figure it out, and then obviously realizing, like you know, hey, someone puts carbon wrap on one of the dishes and that I mean it's crazy. You know, you can, we can now like the algorithm, like how you can see the algorithm and what the dishes are doing and the information we're getting, we can adjust. And so, had we not have that information now, Obviously we would have never known that there was carbon in this rap and we're getting signal loss and this on that.
Speaker 7:So it's, you know, I know, like for us on the terrible side, we're just I think it's amazing to be with a group of people that are willing to innovate and spend the money to, you know, try to try to move this forward. They see, they see it, we see it, I mean we're very passionate about it.
Speaker 7:So you know, how can we, how do we get the sports, the next, the next phase, where it's just not, you know.
Speaker 6:It's just a lot of right you know it's, do I think it's tv?
Speaker 7:No, I think tv is stupid. I think it's like how do you put a 12 hour race and a one hour or 45 minute you know Show with, with commercials that you can't and and so, in my opinion, you know, with the live, uh, obviously you're watching what it is and you know, I think, what, I think that can be done.
Speaker 2:Well, you're in it, like you're literally in it.
Speaker 7:I mean it's like, like you said, like you know, like truck rolls over, that's like minus if we smash the starlink off, but, like you know, if you can be in that moment, you can be in and I think like, again, we we haven't even done the full, full, the Capabilities right. We're just getting, just trying to get reliability and then you can really start implementing. You know, all these other things that we're talking about, whether I mean, like you know, having something like building, whether an internal app so you can talk to the driver while they're, you know, in a speed zone, obviously like that's total dude, like I think the sky's the limit with data and and all that stuff. It's just a matter of, you know, reliability, and I think we're every race gets better, we learn more every time and you know it's it's, you know it's just that's it.
Speaker 7:I actually see the comment about the fact that it's not coming within the industry. You know, that's a funny thing. You mention that. I'll, I'll keep that to myself, but yeah, it's uh, you know, yeah, it takes people like the Herbs and the Menzies and and people like that that are willing Because they're so passionate about it and they love the sport so much that they're willing to invest their own money to make it better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that comes into play too well and people like you too be more and the guys that work with us. Like everybody has got a little part of it right, but yeah, like tracking is great now with that stuff. Like we even have a Multiplayer that you can actually select all the live stream cameras, so if the organization's ever wanted it, then we could just have. You could pick your dirt bike, you could pick or, excuse me, you could pick your side by side, or you could pick a Uh trophy truck. You pick a 6100 truck and you could watch everybody.
Speaker 2:So maybe you know, maybe the organizations will maybe start taking us a little seriously soon instead of, you know, trying to uh, oh, dude, you know what we should do be more, since we got to find the clip because we we saved all of the footage. Uh, james, and I wonder if we could get the footage of you in the cab coming up to the jump, because nobody's got that.
Speaker 7:Oh yeah, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that would be sick if we could find that. I didn't think about that. All you're gonna see is a hood and sky and just like. What was the view? What was the viewpoint for you and Shane?
Speaker 9:Sky in the hood like literally there was nothing else, and the feeling like you just went weightless. It was.
Speaker 7:It was crazy. Yeah, we, yeah, like how many like was it like? Hey, we're, we're still in the air. I'm in the air right now.
Speaker 9:Oh yeah, it was full ricky bobby like yep, I'm in the air, not good.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's hilarious. Shane was probably sitting there just with his eyes peeled open, not even blinking.
Speaker 9:Oh he's, he's crazy. He just sits there, smiles and giggles and laughs. Relan, he's like that was awesome, but I'm like that was waking up Shane.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I just thought the fact that you thought you were going like that thing is so fast. You didn't think you were going that fast, you know Like that's 100% Impressed at a city acceleration.
Speaker 2:So it felt slower, like when you were going up. You're like, oh, this is good.
Speaker 9:Oh, it felt like probably 50, maybe 55. We were probably doing like 80, like it was way too fast, way too fast.
Speaker 2:Dude. That's so badass though. So what was your guys's favorite things about going down to Mexico this trip?
Speaker 9:I mean, it's every Mexico trip. You want to know the truth, going down there and spend time with your friends and Such great people like the her, the her crew. They surround themselves with such amazing people. They are amazing people. They'll give you the shirt off their back. They're just so generous and so nice.
Speaker 9:It's hard not to have a good time when you're surrounded by people like that. And I love racing, so being able to pre-run every day and do with my friends. Right, I got my brother down there, we got our friend Shane, longtime friend. Our guys, peter, have a lot of chase us and love just going down there to be with us. And for me, that's the biggest thing with off-road racing. We're family and it's tough seeing nowadays, right, teams got a little more competitive. No one's right.
Speaker 9:Growing up, everyone was family. It didn't matter who you raised for what you did. It was a family. And I miss that part of this for because I feel like it brought us all together and that's the best part about it. Right, at the end of the day, I want to be able to go out and hang out with Bryce or hang out Luke, hang out with all these guys and Just talk about how the day was right. All the fun sections like the jump, or man I lost, two will drive like Bryce did. Like right, he lost his front-wheel drive. Those are the stories. Or, for instance, even my brother, right like I, my heart goes out to him for. But for that to happen, right, three races from now, right, we're gonna be laughing about it.
Speaker 9:Yeah one of the long night it was to get him out and the people in there to get him right. It's just after racing, such a family sport and you really can't beat it. In my eyes, I think that's what's makes it the most addicting thing out there. It's. I collect more anything's worse than drugs because it's different.
Speaker 7:Yeah, 100%, I think off-road is something like it.
Speaker 7:I mean the experience of it, right, like the fact that, like and that's my biggest thing, like you know, we have a bunch of stuff we're doing internally at Terribles that you know like, we know, like we know what to do, well, in the offer, in the internal space, right, we're doing some stuff, we're shooting right now and it's like, but how do we show it and get people that don't really live it to understand, like I have market, as someone who doesn't really, you know they may be an off-roader but they don't really understand which are gracing or or whatever, and and that's what we're trying to do right now. I was like I want to, you know, I know I can make something. That's that the market will you know that the off-road market black, that's easy. It's the. How do I get the? You know some some Jeep guy or whatever that you know is kind of whatever, is like a mudball guy, but he's gonna see this thing and you know it's like holy crap, this is, I'm into this, you know so.
Speaker 7:You know, my whole goal is to, you know, grow and and reach to the market where it hasn't been right like we're. We're into a point now.
Speaker 2:We're a percent.
Speaker 7:I think we're you know we're it's, it's growing. I mean, look at the truck counts are good. If we could get the organizations to get their shit together, that'd be great. But you know, it's just a matter of we're just gonna keep doing what we're doing and hopefully that you know we love it enough. We'll just we'll do what we're gonna do dude, I agree, I couldn't like.
Speaker 2:I support that, that statement so much. I will say this though Trophy trucks are more expensive than drugs, so the addiction might be flawed.
Speaker 9:So you might be more expensive, but I don't feel like you're going down to the streets in the trophy truck.
Speaker 2:That's true. All right, boys, I gotta get going, I gotta shut down the shop here, but so just give a shout out to you know some of the stuff that you experience over the weekend and people that helped you.
Speaker 9:Like I gotta think the whole her team for giving us give me such a awesome Truck to be able to do what I can do, and for the her forgive you, give me this opportunity, step up and be able to race but then my brace them for a couple, couple races now, in every race, right? It's just childhood dream come true, it really is so to be able to spend time with people like that, with you, with Brian Moore, right? I don't know how much more thankful and grateful I can be for being a, being able to be a part of it, and I gotta think my wife, or just put it up with all the time I put off you know I do all the prep on our own car.
Speaker 9:So before my dad bailed I was almost 24 hours for the whole week between our sign shop and get my pre-runner ready to go down there and they put up a lot of got my three-year-old daughter she puts up with. So I like said I gotta think everyone that surrounded me my dad and mom, for even Helping me out all these years and get me places, and my grandpa for everything he's done teaching me how to drive and give me opportunities.
Speaker 2:Dude, grandpa is always the one with the shout-outs to drive. Hey, what's your daughter's name?
Speaker 9:Emma All right.
Speaker 2:Big shout-out to Emma. Brian, big shout-out to Emma. Yeah, it is just cool to see the teamwork.
Speaker 7:No for sure. I mean, that's all right, man, I feel like it's such a good place. Now, you know, he's saying like, and that's the thing, like, dude, the things like I still feel so fortunate to be surrounded, like in this space now, just of just positivity. And I mean, dude, like you know, I mean you working together and this team, and you know I think it's just a common goal, dude, and that's that's the biggest thing, like there's no, you know we just there's a there's no tunnel vision. It's like the sky's the limit, and how do we get to that point? And, and you know, it's just, I think that's what I Just love being here.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it's been. I'm able to open my wings and I have so much going on. I'm definitely the busiest I've ever been now, which is a blessing. Yep, you know, I'm literally shoot. I've I had, you know, james's brother with me last night till 10 o'clock. We're at wrapping a car that I, so I can blow the tires off, and tomorrow for. So, yeah, I just you know, I'm missing tacos right now. That's how close by we hit, by the way, was, oh, my god.
Speaker 2:It was pretty fire and we.
Speaker 7:Josh.
Speaker 2:Metzger just commented in, this is three hot dogs right there, but I would say rather just change it to three tacos, because Brian and I had a lot of tacos dude, you know I had a lot of. That was so good we went. So, james, check this out. So we go to this new taco spot I think it's called Los Antojitos or something and we roll up and Brian's like dude, I'm pretty hungry and I'm like I'm gonna get three tacos, how many you want. He's like I'll take three to. And then I roll up there and I start ordering and he goes I'll take three carne asada and three pastora, like that's right hey, he just how many?
Speaker 9:you just said three. Yeah three of each is what he meant.
Speaker 2:All right, so bring Emma back real quick. We got to ask her a question.
Speaker 7:Emma, emma, she's like, I'm out, he's out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's out All right. Well, thank you guys very much for coming out of the show.
Speaker 2:I I want to throw out a little bit of shout out to thank you to all of you guys for everything that you guys do, because I Do think that there is a massive increase that we can have an off-road in the sport and I think that it's really cool that you guys are willing to share your lives and share your work to be able to do it. So obviously there's a bunch of other people that help with the whole situation, but thank you guys very much. Thanks, robert.
Speaker 7:Much love buddy.
Speaker 2:All right, boys, we'll see you guys later.
Speaker 7:See you guys.
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