Celebrate a major milestone with us in the seventh installment of The Dirt Life Show, as we reflect on the journey that's brought us to this point of growth and gratitude. We're not just spinning wheels here; we're unpacking the real-life experiences and challenges that shape the world of off-road racing. Special guest Corbin Leverton of the Red Bull Motorsports family joins to share the roar of his recent Red Bull Scramble win and the personal victories that fuel his drive on and off the dusty trail.
Navigating the bumpy financial roads of motorsports doesn't have to be a solo ride. Discover how passion, ingenuity, and a bit of elbow grease can steer a racer from humble beginnings to the winner's circle. Get under the hood of the Polaris Factory Racing Team, explore how family ties can boost motivation, and why a racer's mindset is as crucial as their machine. From pre-race rituals to balancing life's demands, we've got stories that grip you tighter than a five-point harness.
Rounding out the episode, join us as we share tales of resilience from a 17-year Lyme disease warrior who teaches us that the strength found on the racetrack can lead to triumphs in the face of life's toughest obstacles. We're shifting into high gear with conversations about personal growth, career crossroads, and the vibrant community that fuels our passion for racing. So, throttle up and join the conversation—we're eager to hear your thoughts as we speed toward the next exciting episode.
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Celebrate a major milestone with us in the seventh installment of The Dirt Life Show, as we reflect on the journey that's brought us to this point of growth and gratitude. We're not just spinning wheels here; we're unpacking the real-life experiences and challenges that shape the world of off-road racing. Special guest Corbin Leverton of the Red Bull Motorsports family joins to share the roar of his recent Red Bull Scramble win and the personal victories that fuel his drive on and off the dusty trail.
Navigating the bumpy financial roads of motorsports doesn't have to be a solo ride. Discover how passion, ingenuity, and a bit of elbow grease can steer a racer from humble beginnings to the winner's circle. Get under the hood of the Polaris Factory Racing Team, explore how family ties can boost motivation, and why a racer's mindset is as crucial as their machine. From pre-race rituals to balancing life's demands, we've got stories that grip you tighter than a five-point harness.
Rounding out the episode, join us as we share tales of resilience from a 17-year Lyme disease warrior who teaches us that the strength found on the racetrack can lead to triumphs in the face of life's toughest obstacles. We're shifting into high gear with conversations about personal growth, career crossroads, and the vibrant community that fuels our passion for racing. So, throttle up and join the conversation—we're eager to hear your thoughts as we speed toward the next exciting episode.
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Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George Hamill.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Dirt Life Show. I'm your host, Bella Brashad. This is my co-host, George Hamill.
Speaker 1:Hi guys.
Speaker 2:And we are filming episode 7 of Bella's Corner.
Speaker 1:Dude. So 7 is the magic number. I don't know if you remember what I told you.
Speaker 3:No, it is. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1:So in podcast world they say if you can meet seven episodes, then you're not. It gets way easier. Do you feel like?
Speaker 2:it is. Yeah, I mean we'll see how this episode goes, but I'm pretty hyped. I can't believe we've gotten to seven.
Speaker 1:Like that's crazy.
Speaker 2:It hasn't even felt like seven but well, how much work do you think it's been to get to seven? Do you think it's been easier or has it been a learning curve? It's been a learning curve, that's for sure dude, you've been doing good what's up?
Speaker 1:jeff, how are you?
Speaker 2:uh, all right, let's go through the motions, girl so first I want to thank all of our sponsors who get us here um. I'd like to thank motul evolution power sports for for everything, and Maxxis Tires Did you see my shirt. Oh, he's repping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and all the guys over at KMC Wheels Like you said, maxxis, the group being such a great sponsor. The guys over at Shock Therapy actually, they have a new project that they're doing. It's called UpfitUTV, so go check it out. Upfitutv on Instagram. They do some really cool stuff so you can get your own side-by-side. It's built like a race car. Thank you to the guys over at JL Audio and Zolinger Racing Products and all of you for watching. We appreciate it because you guys are our lifeblood, so thank you very much for watching.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm super excited to dive into it Hi Jess. Oh hi, mom, we have some pretty cool people coming on tonight. I want to start off with his intro, because he just did something super cool. So first up is Corbin Leverton.
Speaker 1:Let's do it. Let's introduce everybody, and then we'll do the intros when they come on.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so we got Corbin Leverton coming on, Brooke Jensen, Brock Dickerson and Kaden McCackren.
Speaker 1:Oh, all very, very good guests.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So it'll be interesting, because I wanted to catch up with a few of them actually, and I love Brooke first of all. Brock I haven't talked to in a while but like the last time I actually was on track with him he was just a little guy yeah. Just a super little guy. Has was on track with him. Okay, he was just a little guy. Yeah, just a super little guy.
Speaker 5:Has he been on the show? I don't think he has actually. Okay, so good job.
Speaker 1:Bring him on the show for the first time, sick. And then Corbin's got some really cool stuff happening and obviously you know Caden and Haley have been doing fantastic in their races.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we had Haley on not too long. All right, are you ready? Let's do it. Okay. So Corbin Leverton is from Nuevo California, who just recently joined the Red Bull Motorsports family and took the win at this year's Red Bull Scramble, so deal yeah, joining, what a top dog oh yeah, One of the top dogs?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no he well earned it. I'm super happy for him. There he is. What's up, Corbin? What's?
Speaker 4:happening guys.
Speaker 2:I think I'm on. You're on. I expected to see you at the house, but I forgot. You just moved into your new house.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Hey, speaking of that, how's the new house coming? Dude, you've been making some super big gains in life, right, yeah, it's, it's coming. Yeah, anyone that has owns a house, especially renovated a house, knows it's a lot of work, a lot of money last time, but a lot of fun. It's cool, it's rewarding. Now it's looking. It's looking pretty good now, so it's fun yeah, that's super cool.
Speaker 2:Well, should we get into it do it you, we get into it.
Speaker 1:Do it, you can get into it. I'm going to ask questions about his house, though.
Speaker 2:No, it's pretty cool, honestly.
Speaker 4:I didn't know I was doing the cribs, but I mean I could give you guys the full cribs walking on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be pretty cool, you know what we should do, because Dirt Life wants to like get more into that, like checking out off-road cribs. We should maybe go over there and say hi to him.
Speaker 2:Oh, we definitely should.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but honestly, man.
Speaker 4:Say that again.
Speaker 1:Corbin, you're welcome anytime, dude, it's pretty cool to see, though, like every time, I think about this. We always talk about off-road, we always talk about progressing and racing, but progressing in life is just as important, like the amount of accomplishment that he probably feels.
Speaker 4:You know, making the next step in life has got to be great for sure yeah, no, I I not in a bad way, but there's for sure more life than racing. You know what I mean, especially growing up for me, like as a kid, racing my whole life. I mean like I was homeschooled to race and stuff and like I had no life other than racing. You know, have friends and do things, but like my life was racing and as I get older and you know, gotten married and had a house and stuff like that, um definitely realized there there is more to life, but it doesn't. It doesn't take away any, any from your passion of racing at all by any means, you know. So, yeah, it's cool, it's fun, don't, don't? Uh, kids, don't let the adults scare you away too much plus racing time.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna turn our engines and I guarantee you consider him a construction man too, yeah, yeah the toolbox oh big you can kind of see it right there in the corner.
Speaker 4:We got a wall right there that we missed. But yeah, no, seriously, huge construction guy lately.
Speaker 2:Yep, I get it. Speaking of accomplishments, you just won the Red Bull Scramble this last month. I'm pretty sure, yep. So give us a quick race recap on how that went. If it was a smooth race, if there was a sure, yeah, so give us a quick race recap on how that went. Um, if it was a smooth race. If there's a little complications, give us a little rundown yeah, I know it was fun.
Speaker 4:That's always like one of my, my favorite races to get to do. I grew up going to the dunes, so, um, it's fun, kind of feel right at home. Uh, that was good, it was cool, especially after winning it last year too, to kind of back that up, um, you know, obviously signing with Red Bull and stuff like that and a little bit of added pressure there to do well, but so that was cool. And then, yeah, no, honestly, I thought I was getting my butt kicked for sure. Um, chase Carr actually just totally smoked me and just had nothing for him. I went back to to the trailer. I'm like what the heck? Like maybe it's time to retire, I don't know. But I was able to pull it together and we actually had a super good battle. It was a lot of fun, the most fun I've had racing in a while. Actually kind of battled down to the end and luckily I was off. Not so for chase, I guess. But it's all right, he'll have his day. I know um shout out his young kid and he's he's killed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like whenever you think of those battles, dude, like I can remember so many races that like well, okay, I'll put it this way, I've forgotten so many races that I won, usually on dirt bikes.
Speaker 4:But there's some that.
Speaker 1:I got second or third. That I will never forget because it's just those battles right and like this one. You came out out on top, but I guarantee it's a memorable one for Chase and both of you guys are going to remember it for a long time because it was so heated for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4:And you're totally right, dude. I mean, yeah, any of us racing are super competitive and we hate to lose myself more than anyone I know. But yeah, no even to that. I had a really good battle with Hunter Miller actually out in New Jersey last year. That's probably second to this one with Chase and Glamis as far as what I can remember recently in the last couple of years. As far as a good battle, I got second. He beat me, but still I come off the track and we both destroyed each other's cars, bashing each other all the way to the finish. Still, we're stoked. Obviously, hunter is probably a little bit more stoked than me, but, uh, a lot of fun. I mean, that's why we race right. So, um, I love doing that, I love making doors and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1:That's why, that's why the scramble series is so much fun to me yeah, it is because it's all battles when I say hi to the tire balls guys, and to the trophy girl too. What's up, guys? Uh? Those battles, though, like do you take anything away? And you're like, all right, that was one of the best battles I've had, but I could have done this, this and this way better and just like I don't know, just to increase your speed, right, or your?
Speaker 4:next, sure, yeah, no, you win or lose the battle and I feel like you know in the time, you know your adrenaline's pumping and stuff like that, so you're not really thinking about that stuff. But for me, I always like analyze myself and in kind of my performance after a race and I feel like there's more to gain, uh, in that you know in your head after, because you can kind of look back and be like, well, okay, like that's, this guy got me in this line, like I should have known this or I should mean this, or like, okay, I got him here, got him here, like this is where I know and it it helps for sure. Even one thing I try to pay attention to a lot is there's a lot of those guys have been racing together for years. You know what I mean. So you start to learn the guy you're racing with and that's really cool. And that was something that I really enjoyed with chase is I haven't really got to battle chase personally, like I battled with Hunter a bit kind of back in the works days, um, so I kind of knew what I was in for, um, and and, and it was fun battling with with kind of new. For me we'd never really gone at it like that. So you learn and and I can't lie Like I learned from the kid, I mean even, just like I said, I got my butt kicked in that in that heat race and uh, you know what I kind of went back analyze some of the lines that that he was getting me on and kind of pick the ones that that he was faster, started using those, knew the ones that I was faster, use those too.
Speaker 4:And it's fun. Yeah, I love that side. I love the mental side of racing. I think it people take it for granted. You know the mental side of it and, uh, at the end of the day, hey, man, like all of us that are in cars, like we have good cars, you know, we all know how to drive them. Obviously, I think it comes down to to who wants to, who wants to win the most, or, just straight up, who doesn't, and I feel like that's, uh, usually how I look at. I really just don't like getting beat, you know.
Speaker 1:So I feel like it's like nowadays, though it's a little different. It's like more um, I don't know who makes less mistakes, because it's so close, right. But I also feel like a really good point that you brought up is like sometimes it's more about the person than the car, right, like in auto racing, the cars are always the main thing, right. But, like, what you just brought up is really interesting to me too is because, like when we were racing professional short course, like I knew what lines Dustin Nelson would take.
Speaker 1:I knew what lines Corey Weller was going to take. I knew where they would cut up, cut down. I knew to the point where they would get, because Dustin would only give like a quarter of an inch on the track, corey would give like three or four inches on the track. And you get like to a point where you know your competition so well that you can go and have that much better of a race Like it gets wild when you can go and have that much better of a race like it gets wild when you can like what you were talking about with hunter and chase.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no for sure, you're spot on too. I mean, like, for me, I always try to like to learn from from the guys around me. Um, I, I honestly don't like showing up to the track and being the fastest guy in practice or in qualifying and stuff like that, because I'm not getting any faster. You know what I mean. So, um, I like showing up and kind of learning from from who's there. Um, even if you are faster, there's always something you can learn from someone else, even if they were slower. You know what I mean. So that's something I really like to analyze and and I'm an overthinker with it, but it's just how I um, but, yeah, I mean even to the point of you know, like we were in different, you know car brands, you know so different cars, even if you're in the same exact model car, like people, cars work differently, they're set up differently and and I even try to learn from that, you know what I mean In the race too, as far as just like, oh yeah, I can't do this liner.
Speaker 4:They got they. They're getting a little bit better here, but I'm going to get it here. But also for like, okay, when it gets done, man, his car worked really good right there and I make my car do that too. Can I get artists set up right after it? Because there really is, like you're saying, so much of racing really are, um, but that's where I like off-road racing, because it's a lot less than you know asphalt stuff. Yeah, that's why I really like the scramble series as well, because it's's not just, you know, a wide open horsepower game and stuff like that. So I have a lot of fun doing those.
Speaker 1:DVXN asked a question. Did you see that there I?
Speaker 2:did.
Speaker 1:Do you want to ask Corbin that question, because I feel like that's a good one for Corbin.
Speaker 2:He said hey, man, I have a question on how to get into riding when my parents don't have the money to support me.
Speaker 4:Man, I mean need to support me. Man. I mean it's tough because I'll be honest, like it's it's if anyone's selling on you. You know, off off road racing or just riding in general is cheap. They're lying, luckily for us, and what we do is side by sides. Um, they're pretty cost effective. They're pretty cheap to at least get out there and have some fun. Uh, you can get right off the showroom floor. Is it a financial investment? I don't know. But you'll have a lot of fun, I can promise you that. And even with that man you can literally go finance a race car. Like I said, is it the best investment? I don't know. But hey, it's worked out pretty decent for me and I'm thankful and it's cool, it's so cool to me.
Speaker 4:If you look back at that off racing, you know 10 years ago where you had to spend. You know tens, hundreds of thousands. Just start. You know what I mean. You got to go wait in line for a year to get a, to get a buggy bill or something. You can really go down to the show or finance thing, a few parts on it, line up batteries and get your feet wet and feel for it, and there's a lot of sponsor help out there? Um, there really is. If you're marketing yourself right, even if you are a beginner, they're really willing to help. And yeah, I mean, if there's a will, there's a way right. So there's no quick answer, there's no real shortcut for it, it's kind of just make it happen.
Speaker 1:Our work is one of the main things with all that stuff and and like the way that I started was, you know, like even a little bit under what Corbin was talking about Like I had to work my butt off. I got a job to make extra money to buy a used side-by-side, and I found a used side-by-side and a couple of guys that would help me and like some good mentors and stuff, and then I just raced when I could like and just saved up money. So the first thing is hard work, second one is save your money and the third thing is go out and achieve your dream.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean it's, it's real, that's, that's the truth. I mean, I mean I don't know how many people really know it, but I mean I dabbled with side-by-side racing a little bit just just because I was lucky enough that my uncle was racing and grandpa kind of helped me out and stuff like that and got to pop in a little bit. At the point I really started to take it seriously. Um, I was 17, working like not being homeschooled, so I could, so I could work more and finance myself a car from the dealership that I built that's my race car luckily was able to do well and get help from manufacturers kind of relatively quickly, quickly, I would say. I was lucky and blessed to do that and not everybody can expect that, I guess. But, um, but yeah, I don't come from, I don't come from much money, I obviously I'm not. I'm not poor and and homeless or anything, but uh, yeah, if there's a will there's a way, right, so that's kind of how I look that kind of dives into my next question.
Speaker 2:um, we've got all those life checks where it's like, okay, I'm getting older, I've got to figure out you know how racing pans out for me. But what point in your career did you have that reality check and chose to like really bumble down and take it serious? Because I know I've had some and I'm sure George has had some. But I want to hear from you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah from you, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'll clarify right off the bat um, racing cars for a living is probably not the right career choice. I will say but, um, if you're like me and you just really don't feel like you have an option, that's what you're doing. Uh, it is possible. And and for me, like my path, um, really, I guess, man, when I was right around graduating time 17, 18 I actually was a fire explorer. I was going, um, I actually finished emt school, was about time to, you know, get on a gonna get a pair like go to paramedic school and then and fire, fire academy and all that stuff. That was my plan.
Speaker 4:Since I was like 15, I'd planned to be a firefighter and, uh, right around that time is when I started started really, um, the racing kind of started picking up. I started getting sponsors, started to actually get to the point I'm like, okay, I'm making a little bit of money doing this, um, and, yeah, it was so much, I was racing so much and stuff like that, that I'm like, hey, like I, I have this opportunity right now. It may or may not last and I probably will never get it again and, to be frank, I can go back and try to be a firefighter, kind of, whenever you know what I mean. So, um, yeah, I chose to literally just hit it full force. Be at everything, do everything that sponsors ask race super quick.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know that's just how it is. You know, and and I've been been around racing, kind of growing up and stuff like that, and I understand it. But yeah, that was kind of my moment in in my career at least. Everybody has their others. Um, some, some don't have them until they're you know, like we're racing cars, you know. I mean you can start racing when you're 40 or you can start racing when you're when you're 10 if you have parents that are willing to help you do it. You know what I mean. Um, but yeah, that was that was my deal, um, kind of when it was time to grow up and pick a career and stuff like that, I'm like, well, I'm going to race for a little bit at least. And here I am, so it worked out and yeah, I can't imagine my life any other way.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, it worked out for sure.
Speaker 1:Is that fire still lit inside you? Because it seems like it's even growing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, dude, I'll be honest with you. There is plenty of times for probably anyone that races, at whatever level, um, that you're like, yeah, forget this. Um, pretty much, um, there's definitely times that, yeah, you love it, it's all good, and then you hate it. And why do I do this type thing? That's just straight up. That's, that's my, in my head at least. So if no one else is willing to say it, I will.
Speaker 4:Um, but overall, those negative thoughts don't really last very long when it comes to racing. Anyone that's around racing knows it's kind of it's, it's a bit of an addiction, as cliche as it as it sounds. Um, it really is, and, and for me it's kind of just always been like I don't know, it's just what I do. I feel like I'm not going to say I was born and put on this earth to do that, but and that's what, like, I have a drive to do, so why not do that? Um, and yeah, I've had my, my ups and downs in my career and I would say right now I'm probably having more fun, more, have more drive to succeed, do new things and and, just straight up, win races more than more than ever actually. So it's cool, I'm in a good headspace right now. I like it. Yeah, life's good. We'll see what happens from here, I guess yeah, I'm really happy for you.
Speaker 4:That's super cool what was not up and down, just just like with anything, in any path you choose, in anything you're doing, it's, it's a lot if you don't down struggles. So take that for what it is, I guess yeah, for sure, that's really cool yeah, no, do you have any more questions?
Speaker 2:I do have one last question that I've been dying to ask forever. I'm scared when is the leverton boys, pit by grace, gonna come back?
Speaker 4:uh, bad connection, sorry guys. You're probably the thousandth person to ask me that question, bella, since the date.
Speaker 4:That's all anyone ever asked me about. I'm pretty sure that's like what will be on mine and Lincoln, my brother's gravestones or something, because that's just what I'm known for now. I don't know. For one, there's a house built on that lot now, so we're going to have to have a different venue. For two, that was pretty rowdy. I don't know if we'll keep a role like that again, but you never know. Me and Lincoln have talked about that.
Speaker 1:There may be like a it will do a five-year in your reunion or something I'm telling you like, just like it got so rowdy dude, it was cowboy style dude.
Speaker 4:You should just wait till 2069 just like postpone it I don't know what I'm thinking. You know, like if you're there, you know if you weren't there, you'll just never know. And it's one of those things that like right, like a story from back in the day when you're a kid, like it just grows and builds and it's like you, it makes it like in your head it was way cooler than it even was. And it like grows to that point like if we do it again, it's just gonna lose its coolness. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it's like that thing. You don't want to make a dude.
Speaker 2:You should have been there no actual story or instagram posts or anything whatever amount to how cool it was yeah, ever it was.
Speaker 4:It was pretty crazy, for those that weren't there have no idea we're talking about. So at my parents property there was a. There's a one acre spot. I have to shout out to cody as well too bradbury milk. He lives on it too and it was next door to him, so he hated us for it. Um, but he can't lie, he had fun. Um, there's a one. We got a one acre spot of land right there.
Speaker 4:Um, I live in out in the middle of nowhere Nueva, if anyone knows where that is. But, um, this was in the middle of COVID, so it wasn't me, but, uh, middle of COVID. No one had nothing to do. So we threw up a pit bike race and there was. We bought 750 wristbands and my mom said we were absolutely nuts. No way are 750 people coming in there, whether they show up or not, we're not letting in. Uh, by about 10 am, all the wristbands were gone and we had just opened the gates and we're just like yeah, come in. So there was somewhere around a thousand on a one acre lot. Um, so much so that the city of Nuevo, uh, rampage, got shut down because all of our friends were bombarding them. So much so it was pretty, pretty cool. Thank god we didn't get shut down. The cops were so cool about it and loving it and, yeah, it was a good time. It was one of those things that I don't know. I don't know if it can ever be recreated and be as fun.
Speaker 1:Thank you for the Lieberton and Bradbury family for putting Nuevo on the map yeah.
Speaker 2:No one knew about Nuevo until that event.
Speaker 1:I'm from my city, guys, so You're just a staple Corbin from Mayer.
Speaker 4:What's like the Young Jeezy song I put on Like that's what I'm trying to do yes.
Speaker 1:Alright, I think we gotta talk to Katie yeah, we gotta keep it on peace, dude.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 1:That's so funny.
Speaker 2:I was dying to ask that question, could you?
Speaker 1:imagine, though, like having all those people show up and you're just like, uh, what do we do now? I know All right.
Speaker 6:Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm good. How are you? That's good. So Caden McCaffrey is 22 years old, from Las Vegas, california.
Speaker 1:He made his debut last year Las Vegas Nevada.
Speaker 2:Las Vegas, nevada. I knew that you guys, I'm homeschooled, Sorry. Made his debut last year becoming a part of the Polaris Factory Racing Team and continues to shine in the racing world. He recently won this last month's San Felipe 250.
Speaker 1:Dude on it at San Felipe, Congratulations.
Speaker 6:Thank you, yeah, it turned out good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I first want to run down the race real quick to see if everything went smooth and stuff. Give us a whole race recap.
Speaker 6:A whole race recap. Well, it was 284 miles, so a lot went on, but honestly it was actually a pretty slow day. It felt like, um, that's kind of what happens when you win. Um, not a lot happens when things are happening normally in a race car. Um, it's bad news. So, uh, honestly pretty bored all day and then got got down to the finish the last uh 30 miles or so and figured that if we were going to try to win, we better start now and um, kind of started going, picking up the pace a little bit and got to the finish line and I guess we won.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a pretty uneventful race, and then you had Haley in the car with you too, right?
Speaker 6:Yeah, she's been riding with me off and on for as long as I've been racing pretty much. If it's got two seats, she's my first pick.
Speaker 1:Heck, yeah, for as long as I've been racing pretty much If it's got two seats she's my first pick Heck. Yeah, Does she do a good job? Because, like dude, it's hard to ride at San Felipe. You're hitting so many freaking bumps.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I take care of myself pretty well, but if anything goes awry she can clean it up pretty fast. She's super lightweight, that's the biggest advantage. But yeah's, she's a smart girl and it's good to have next to me yeah, for sure benefits you in every way yeah, totally well, she's good at, she's good at her jobs yeah, well, yeah she is just also like a different kind of mind. All of us off-road racing men think one way and you get her, and sometimes she has different takes on things.
Speaker 1:So that's a pretty, a pretty good thing to like understand. I don't even think about that till right now. Like you, probably think completely different than your brother, though- oh, for sure yeah, that's crazy, whether yeah men and women have different mindsets.
Speaker 2:But something like I forgot what it was.
Speaker 1:I think it was like when danica patrick was racing or something. But somebody said like that girls have a quicker reaction time than boys do.
Speaker 6:I don't know if I'd give her the steering wheel yet, but we can try.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say quick reaction time, though when you're navigating and you're seeing all that stuff, I feel like that's a huge deal.
Speaker 6:Haley and Bella actually raced quite a bit, so Bella knows how quick Haley's reactions are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do you.
Speaker 1:So Bella knows how quick Hayley's reactions are. Yeah, I do, you battled against each other.
Speaker 2:Yes, we did, really we raced together for a full season, season and a half probably. Oh man, yep, that's cool. She was probably the most fun competition that I've ever had, for sure.
Speaker 1:Like clean racing, clean racing.
Speaker 2:I learned from her. It was pretty cool and she always had GoPro footage. Always she caught me running into a fence. She caught me blasting out her GoPro.
Speaker 6:She caught me Dude Haley could freaking sabotage you so often, didn't she break your wrist in Idaho? Yeah, was that you. Yeah, that was me that you, yeah that was me.
Speaker 1:No way, anyway, that's enough about her. Yeah, let's talk about kids, yeah.
Speaker 2:I guess let's talk about kids.
Speaker 1:Haley post some of those pictures and videos.
Speaker 2:So now that you're a part of the factory players team, has that given you a different outlook or better understanding of how a team or manufacturer operates? Good question.
Speaker 6:Yeah, absolutely. You know, normally when you race off-road you're kind of racing for your name or your family's name. You know that's like the biggest thing, right, it's Bella or it's Caden, and with this it's kind of like it's Polaris, you know, and it's way bigger than me and my name's on the car, but that's a really small part of it. There's, you know, hundreds of thousands of people that are behind all the brands that are on our car. I don't even know how many employees Polaris has, but all those people are looking at me and the team to, you know, put their work into the public's eye and I feel like we've done that pretty well and are going to continue to try to do that even better.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Does that give you more pressure or no? Or you handle it pretty good. You know, I, I sometimes people like would ask you to get nervous before the race, or do you get a lot of pressure and I, I don't really ever feel that. Um, I, I think that's bad to think about. I mean, if you got something to be nervous about, then you probably shouldn't be racing. So I mean, I never got that nervous or felt much pressure, and that probably doesn't do good for most people.
Speaker 6:So I figured, you know, maybe maybe in the beginning of my racing career, when I thought, oh, am I going to be the guy that's, you know, has a lot of pressure and is really nervous, or am I not? I just chose not to be and figured there was never a reason to get nervous and you can leave. You can leave the nerves until you know something. Something bigger happens or something later in the race. But uh, as far as before the race, I don't feel that too much. But yeah, it's definitely cool to be racing, for you know something bigger than myself.
Speaker 6:Yeah, that's actually a good point, though, because, like, that's a true racer right.
Speaker 1:You just like you leave everything behind and just focus on getting the job done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to read that comment.
Speaker 2:Dylan Smoke said Kaden listens to Spice Girls before the race. Known facts.
Speaker 6:I don't know if that's a fact or not, but Dylan's actually a backup driver on the team, so you know, maybe before the race he's getting my iPod ready or something.
Speaker 1:iPod Dude I like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's an okay response.
Speaker 1:That's that's perfect, yeah it was yeah, no, that's really cool though, especially going from more of a privateer team to kind of seeing how stuff works as like a manufacturer bigger than yourself yeah, I don't want to get too far into the whole players team thing, because that's a whole show in itself, but like when katie has the opportunity and I don't know if you know this, bella, but he hasn't actually been racing for that long Like he's still pretty ignorant. Right, he's been around racing his whole life. But when you get put into a position where racing is now your job, a lot of times it changes for people Like it takes away fun and all of these different things happen. A lot of times it changes for people Like it takes away fun and all of these different things happen. But it doesn't seem like that's happening right now because he's got such a good attitude and a mental perspective on where he wants to go in his career. Like there's a very few people that can actually sustain that, so we should be proud of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I guess my answer for that was like to me I started racing in the beginning of 2019. That like it was never really a hobby for me. Obviously, my dad has done it for a living Most of, if not almost, all, his life all his life and all of my life so you know, most of the things that come with making racing your job were already expected on me kind of. So to me it was never really like a hobby. It was always like a thing that you go try to do your best at, aka a job, but it doesn't really feel like a job. So I guess I got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and especially coming from you, know how you said, your dad has raised his whole life too. Is that stuff that you can benefit off of, like learning from him? Do you go to him when you need, like a question about it, or need some advice or someone to pump you up?
Speaker 6:Yeah, absolutely. I don't know about pumping me up but maybe slowing you down, but no, no, normally, like in the beginning, it was always good to have somebody that I kind of knew how it worked. Um, he kind of probably could foresee my future a little bit, just with the amount of uh experience he had and, um, you know, a lot of the times there weren't too many questions or anything. It was just kind of just I was kind of like a sponge and growing up around it so much, I just learned so much about it and um took it all in and was able to when I, when it was my turn to hold the steering wheel, I was able to do it, um, pretty okay yeah, one of the things that I like most about the dynamic between kate and his dad, well, and now the whole family right is like they utilize everybody for the knowledge, the learning, learning, the infrastructure, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1:And, like he said, they're sponges right. Like they learn from each other. Sometimes they can bark at each other, but that's like normal human interaction, right. But Caden does it his own way, like he knows what he wants and he sticks to that and he uses all the other information to benefit the way that he wants to proceed. It's really cool to see him go through all that and to grow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he wants to proceed. It's really cool to see him go through all that and to grow. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's super cool, especially coming from the family, to like being able to share that experience with someone that you know, you just come home to or you grew up with.
Speaker 6:It's real fun when we get in the same vehicle together and try to try to race together and it worked. A lot of people think like, oh, it's bad, or we yell at each other. It's not like that at all. It's pretty calm inside of a race car. What needs to happen is we need to race each other against each other in very similar race cars. Not for bragging rights or anything. I just want to see how it goes. I've never, raced against them.
Speaker 1:I want to see how that goes too you should be, on the same radio channel and talk crap to each other. That'd be fun.
Speaker 2:We should use Star Street. Yeah, I can see the battle, do it yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, while we're talking about the family aspect of it and all that, you have one of the best pit crew in Amber. She supplies you guys with the most amazing snacks every time you guys are together.
Speaker 6:Yeah, absolutely. She's been around it for a long time, um, a lot of her life too, so she's been around it and, um, she knows the deal when it comes to mccaffrey motorsports and everything, and a lot of stuff gets handled without even you thinking about it. So, uh, it's great to have somebody like that around and, and, um, you know, makes it easier on us drivers for sure so we all know that like your dad is usually his favorite is like a Snickers ice cream bar or something like that.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite when you're out pre-running?
Speaker 6:Like out pre-running. Oh I don't know. Normally we're pre-running in Baja, so any food is good food at that point and sometimes it's just the simplest thing like trail mix or whatever you can get your hands on. But after a long day pre-running, I think we just came back from San Felipe and kind of in my opinion, San Felipe kind of has the best restaurants and most variety of food, for sure through anything that we raced in Baja through, so I'll eat anything. I found a pretty good Italian spot at San Felipe and that was pretty good. To come home from a long day of touring and get some shrimp Alfredo. So I think I had that. You could ask Haley, I probably had it six or seven days in a row, maybe for less than two. When you find something good like that, you just keep going for it.
Speaker 2:It's just a repeat. You never get tired of it.
Speaker 6:I'm so hungry now.
Speaker 2:Thanks, I always heard of Uncrustables, but this booth eats Alfredo Okay.
Speaker 6:Normally I don't bring very many snacks with me pre-running because I'm trying to get to dinner as fast as possible. I don't have a lot of trail snacks on the road.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I gotta hop on this shrimp off-road and stuff it's definitely good ice racing in Baja Sorry. You're good. I know Baja's Sorry, you're good. I know Baja is a whole experience in itself. I haven't got to experience that yet, but from seeing all your guys' posts and everything, it looks like a crazy rundown, do you? Have your passport? Yes, I do.
Speaker 1:Maybe you should go down with Starstrain and hang out, and then you can feel the love.
Speaker 3:Take me, I'm down.
Speaker 1:What else we got?
Speaker 2:We got a couple more. Sometimes you can lose motivation, even with the sport that we love most. What do you do to regain your strength after a race and go the way you planned?
Speaker 6:I just tell myself I don't have a choice. I'm either going to like it or I'm going to like it. So, you know, sometimes, you know, things get you down, but I don't think about the past too much. I really don't think about the future too much. I kind of just try to stay in the present. And you know, what's going on today is what I have to deal with and, good or bad, I mean, you end up getting through it. And you know the highs are high.
Speaker 6:You know, I just came one, San Felipe, and then Monday it's like, oh, whatever, and I'm I'm accustomed to that which is so good, racing short course and stuff was you race so much that you know you'd win and you or you lose and you have another chance to go do that in a couple weeks. But with desert, you know, last year we raced four races and it was like, oh, you know, you race once every three months and if you had a bad result which I had quite a bit of last year, unfortunately um, there was. You know, it seemed like there was a lot of time to get down on yourself. But looking back on it, I never thought I really did. You know, it was always like oh, how do we get better, how do I improve myself for the team, and uh, ended up winning the thousand last year at the end of the year, so that kind of saved the year for me.
Speaker 6:And then um rebounding this year at san felipe. But uh, you know, at the finish line of of of the thousand I was thinking about hammers, and at the finish line of the 1,000, I was thinking about hammers, and at the finish line of San Felipe I was thinking about the Baja 500. So ever since we've gotten home, put the trophy in the trophy case and started trying to figure out how we can win the Baja 500, which is definitely not going to be easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly you know what they say, though, too. I think you've heard me say this before. Bella is like one of the best traits about a racer racers they have a short memory span yeah, right, like if you, if you remember what you the mistake you made in the last corner, you're already losing. Yeah, you just gotta move forward, and that's what kate is talking about yeah, you definitely never get too high or too low.
Speaker 6:I just like you know, even if you hit a rock, get a flat, just whatever change it, forget about it. You can't fix it, so just keep going. That applies to life too for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, and he's thinking about going and getting shrimp off radio after exactly, I would be too you better get that.
Speaker 2:You better get to the finish line fast, because they're running out of shrimp that's a great perspective, though, especially here in your, from you, because you know we all have to deal with some gnarly luck. We can be the most amazing drivers, but it's sometimes the car is really what we're relying on, and well, kind of like hayden just hit it off, hit on it too.
Speaker 1:It's like that's the way you should deal with life, yeah yeah, for sure I think, racing gives us a lot of that too.
Speaker 2:Like not a lot of kids get the chance to figure that out, because they don't do as a demanding sport or something like that. So 100.
Speaker 6:Yeah, you could. You could go work for whatever a year or six months, eight months, building the the coolest race car ever, and you go to your race and you make it two miles right and if you get upset about it and just you know, get rid of the race car, you're never going to succeed. So, uh, it's definitely, definitely a big part of the sport yeah, and you can't.
Speaker 2:You can't dwell on the past. You can only fix your mistakes and move on.
Speaker 1:Have you had some where you were just like so down in the dumps?
Speaker 6:No, I honestly, you know the bad like. I've been pretty fortunate in my life to where, like, the good results have probably always outweighed the bad results and whenever there's been times that the bad results normally came from me doing something stupid, honestly. So, like, honestly, it was an easy fix. Just don't do that. I've had, you know, pretty good teams and, like, wasting my RS1. I was always prepping the thing myself and had good luck. So, honestly, never really had much of a you know a run of bad results due to things that you couldn't easily fix. Most of my stuff was just learning or trying to figure out learning to not do those things. Most of my stuff was just learning or trying to figure out learning to not do those things. And then I'm watching other people and seeing how they do it and put it all together into this to the orb of success that I'm trying to have yeah, for sure, so rad taking accountability for that too.
Speaker 1:That rs1 that you had, though that was a pretty sick like I still got her.
Speaker 6:I actually just tore to the frame. It's uh guilt. I'm guilty right now, but it's been 13 months since I tore it down to the frame and I actually just walked in 10 minutes ago from putting all the brake lines back in it. So uh got her all powder coated and I don't know what I'm gonna do with her. I gotta figure out if she wants to go out the door. It's kind of my first race car and had a lot of success and kind of built me into what I, what I am today and gave me a lot of opportunities. So it'd be hard to sell her.
Speaker 1:I don't know how many I was going to say if you could make that the MVP, the most valuable Polaris, and just bring her out whenever you want to.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I mean I would like to sell it and you know, figure out what's next. But I also know how many good moments and opportunities and joys in my life came from that car and times that I was 3 am in the race, shot in the shop, you know, the night before leaving for the race and the car wasn't running, and how. You know running for the championship, whatever, and how freaked out I was, and at all that time I was either still in high school or had a full-time job. So mixing all those things together was definitely a point in my life that like taught me a lot of not time management, because I've never been good at that like trying to figure out how to like squeeze a hundred things into a box that can only hold 10.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Those learning moments. That's why that car is so special to Katie.
Speaker 6:Yeah, she's got to come back out of retirement. I raced that Red Bull Scramble with Corbin. That was actually the first time we ever raced each other. I think I was always in a different class, but last year I got my butt whooped. I will say it's because I had less power. I had no power, but also, corbin is a great driver. That is a part of it. But it hasn't rained since May last year at that Red Bull Scramble, so got to find some fun events to come, bring it out to some that I think it could be competitive in and try to go for broke.
Speaker 1:I love driving that thing because it's just as fast as you want to drive it, as hard as you can go.
Speaker 6:How rad would it be if you put like a 2.0 motor in that thing from and just gave corbin a run for his money I think it'd still be tough, but um, you know there's, there's like I've actually always thought about racing that thing in a desert race and I I'm pretty sure it'd be terrible when shooting yourself in the foot, but I'm sure it makes for some good stories, you know, like a Silver State or honestly even Baja, like I know it's definitely not the best knife for the cutting board, but we'll figure it out. I'm trying to figure out how to strap a spare tire.
Speaker 1:The racing track guy David Clay. He races RS1 and Baja, but dude, like it's gnarly like it's, like it's next level, gnarly.
Speaker 6:I've always wanted to build a single seat Pro R.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be sick. Does it still have a purple wrap on it?
Speaker 6:Yeah, she got wrapped. It's in the same car. I got that car in the beginning of 2019. It's the same car, same frame, same trailing arms. A lot of the stuff has been the exact same through all these years. So, uh, yeah, it's got. It got wrapped the beginning of last year. A little bit of purple and it's still got her on there.
Speaker 6:Um and uh, yeah, as we talk about it, I think you know, when I'm working on the thing I just keep thinking about when I get to the end, I'm going to sell it. But as we keep talking about it, I I think she needs to come out of retirement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you need to pull her out, at least for one last go-around. Yeah.
Speaker 6:I agree. One turns into two really fast and into four and six and you never get rid of it. Dude, the RS1s are just so fun oh yeah, it definitely is, that's where it all started. I feel like For a lot of people yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, so talking about. Starstream. We got some dudes still qualifying to Legacy right now.
Speaker 6:I was watching Travis Travis Lee.
Speaker 3:I watched his qualifying run and he's got it.
Speaker 6:He's got it with the intercom and I'm pretty sure it's his dad riding with him. Yeah right, yeah, I was super stoked to listen to it.
Speaker 1:I texted Chris Mankin and I'm like dude, the audio is gold, we can hear him.
Speaker 6:It's pretty good, Even when they radioed in or satellite communication into the chase crew. The Mankins were in Murrieta and they could hear him clean as day. That's so cool. We can hear it on the live stream. It was rad to hear all that stuff. It's next level. We can hear it on the live stream.
Speaker 1:It's just cool. It was rad to hear all that stuff. Like it's next level because you can like experience it. Like I was like driving over here, to like going down the highway or whatever, and I was getting chills. I'm like yes, you got it. Just keep working on it and getting it better and better and more stuff and then it's cool for do you think we're gonna be like oh okay, oh belly, you could have done over here and be sitting on the couch, the remote control, just watching my car and driving it.
Speaker 2:They're going to hear Caden talking about the shrimp off right now If they mic up the audio to Haley and Caden.
Speaker 1:That would be so awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh, I would love to hear that audio.
Speaker 6:I don't know there's not a lot of talking. Anytime it's talking it's like normally nonsense, so it'd be interesting.
Speaker 2:That's funny. I've always wondered how it's like for, like different co-drivers and drivers, what they speak about, because me and. Dylan, like sometimes we'll be serious and talking about really you know like okay, this next show you got to be ready for it. And then sometimes it's like yesterday. You know, I had this good like chill, but it just wasn't. It didn't hit the spot yeah it's pretty similar.
Speaker 1:And everything I've driven is pretty similar to that. There's some people I don't know if it's even legal, but some people listen to music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some people listen to music. I could never, I would go crazy. You gotta try it once.
Speaker 6:I like listening to the car. In the rules of off-road racing you shouldn't be listening to music while you're racing. You're supposed to listen to the car and vibrations and everything. Pre-running 100% Podcasts, all those things. I haven't listened to music while racing very often, but when I have, it's been pretty fun Do you have a hype song. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Do you have a hype song before?
Speaker 6:the race. No, my thoughts are enough to get me hyped up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude. So I'm the same as Caden and I was talking to Craig Scanlon about this stuff and, like, honestly, he surprised me. His is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2:What? That's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's pretty badass though, because that's what gets him hyped.
Speaker 6:Like you'll see him listen to his iPod and you're like, all right, don't bother. Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Either Craig or.
Speaker 2:Blake, what's your hype song? I don't know if I can tell you yeah, do you Is it. G-eazy or somebody? No, do you guys know who Queen is?
Speaker 6:Yeah Queen Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good song Because it's got like a subtle like okay, you're slowly going into it and you're pulling up to the line. Okay, then it's like right, when you're about to go off, that's when it drops.
Speaker 6:That's your problem. That's probably why other people have hype songs. That's probably why people get nervous. They're trying to hype themselves up when they need to be calming themselves down.
Speaker 2:That's probably my problem. Then I wonder why I get nervous Queen right before I'm about to go off.
Speaker 1:That's funny. We should do a poll on that and see like well, brooklyn just joined us. We could ask everybody and be like dude, what's your guys' hype song before you guys get it? Oh.
Speaker 2:I would love to, or like someone's like walkout song, like for Supercross or UFC or anything like that, like they got hype songs. Why can't the Razors have?
Speaker 3:any, I don't want this.
Speaker 1:You can tell so much about somebody. It's like it would be kind of like you know you're sitting at the poker table and you have your poker face on. If you released like your hype song, people would know your vibe Like right away.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they would know what you're coming in, what your intentions are.
Speaker 6:I'd like to play some mind games with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, you could, you really could. That would be so sick.
Speaker 1:All right well I don't have any more questions for you, but do you, george?
Speaker 3:no, I think he's doing a great job, like all the stuff that he's doing.
Speaker 1:You know he's focusing on on being a professional racer. He's got a you know career like doing all of this great stuff and um, from the outside it might look like it's a little easier than it is, but I know how much work he puts in. I know how much work his family puts in. I know how much work the team puts in and to be able to see him start excelling at this in such a young stage of his life. I mean he's got still at least 40 or 50 years of racing left.
Speaker 2:You're only in your 20s, there's so much.
Speaker 1:You know what. Actually somebody else put this in the Gypsy Tail podcast Talked to Adam Cicerello after he retired, or after he said he was going to retire from professional motocross and said, I kind of feel like this is the beginning of your second life, right? Like for Katie, this is still the beginning of his first. I mean, he has so much room to grow. It's badass to think about how awesome it's going to be in the next 10 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even just going through the eras of each different type of racing. And you know you're entering into a new one right now, so I'm really super happy for you. Can't wait to see what you got in the works.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Wait, you said what is your real life song.
Speaker 6:You're not being honest, oh, you got a different one.
Speaker 1:What is it? You cheesed out.
Speaker 6:It's probably not PG, is it? What'd you say? It's probably not PG.
Speaker 2:No, yeah no. It's definitely not.
Speaker 3:She's holding back Jess.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, All right guys.
Speaker 6:Thank you guys.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much Later.
Speaker 1:Kate, I want to know what it is. What's it going to take? What kind of question do we have to ask to get it out of you? Who's next Brock?
Speaker 2:Brock is next.
Speaker 1:I'll add him on here real quick. Is he friends with the Dirt Life. I don't know We'll have to there, you go, alright.
Speaker 2:Brock Dickerson is next. He is from Braw. I don't know Should be. We'll have to. There you go, so alright. So Brock Dickerson is next. He is from Brawley, california, and started his racing career in 2008. He made a mark in the desert world and-.
Speaker 5:How are you doing? Oh hi.
Speaker 1:Brock's also making a mark on the screen right now with his fire nebulous mustache, oh yeah.
Speaker 5:It took some work. It took a while.
Speaker 2:How are you doing?
Speaker 5:I'm doing good. Honestly, it's kind of my first time on a podcast like this, so I really don't know what to expect.
Speaker 2:That's super sick. Well, we're glad you came on and I'm trying to ask you some questions.
Speaker 6:You were probably.
Speaker 1:I have the most questions for you out of everyone All right, so I have some fun stuff to talk about with him too, but I'm waiting to see him on the screen so I can do an Instagram story or reel with Bella's Corner and then get his mustache closed up, so go ahead and ask your questions, and then I'll just focus on my Instagram.
Speaker 2:All right, so I did want to hop right into the truck. Tell us a little bit about your new build. What class do you run it in and who built it?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so we got a new Alumacraft trophy truck and we've been working on it for probably like three years, but well, started it three years ago and then got held up for the tranny. Coming from Albans, out of Australia, I got stuck in the COVID lockdowns. Basically, we had to wait like a year for a transmission which held up a bunch of stuff and you know. So that put it behind, but simply first race on it. Eleven hundred horsepower, six gears, paddle shift, it's, it's just insane. It was. It blew me away. We only had about 100 test miles on it before san felipe 150, I think. So uh, we're really still breaking it in.
Speaker 5:Um, I was a bit uh, I don't want to say what's the right word for that Just a bit upset, not disappointed or anything. In the rear gear we lost a third member, basically 240 miles into the 250, which really sucked, because I thought it was a transmission when it broke. I just misdiagnosed it, basically. But other than that, I mean the truck ran great the whole time. I mean I love it, it's fast, it's stupid fast, basically. But no, we're just looking forward to it. We got the Instagram banner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, for sure, that's super cool.
Speaker 1:It is kind of crazy to think about, though, when you put in that much work, especially with the time delays and stuff. Right, like all of us racers understand, you just want to get out there and race, like you're so excited, like let's just go, go, go, and then I don't want to say you got let down right, but like you learned a lesson, you were like, okay, we put in all this effort and then all of a sudden like, okay, that was it, it was a little part, it was a failure.
Speaker 4:There's nothing that you could have done about it.
Speaker 1:But now you have the opportunity to go and redo it like we were just talking with katie, so you pretty much just put that behind you and go for the next race, or what?
Speaker 5:uh, that's the plan. Now that we know what broke and why it happened, we've kind of just been circling around it for the past three weeks and four weeks, um, just trying to figure out exactly what to do. So now I think we know what to fix, what we change, how to write, you know, make it fast. I mean, that was the roughest san felipe course of everything. I've raced there four or five times now and, uh, it was just straight square edge. It was ridiculous, or I don't want to say ridiculous, it was. It's San Felipe, it's always going to be rough, right, but that just puts so much wear on those parts. But yeah, now we know what we need to change, how to improve it. I mean, like I said, we only had 100 and I think the exact number was like 132 test miles before San Felipe. That's crazy, that's half a race right, like I'm near a brand new truck still and, uh, just went into it and we learned.
Speaker 2:So it's pretty new for um Alumacrafts too, for sure, but um selecting a builder for the trophy truck is a huge commitment. What strong points did you see in Alumacrafts build that made you want to commit to it?
Speaker 5:so I raced a tisco truck, uh, in 2022. The main reason for that was because we were still waiting on the alumicraft whatever, how I said held up by the transmission through covid. Um, I went with the lumicraft just because great relationship, uh, john well, not there anymore, but but always took me under his wing and helped me out a lot. Pro buggy car, I mean, damn it, he brought my one car and it wasn't even a Lumacraft. Dang, yeah, I mean, that was the main reason we went with them and they just helped us with what we wanted to do, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, we were just talking about it before the show like how much people matter, right, like once you find a person that you're like, you gel with, or whether it's a mechanic or I don't know, even your best friend, like it's just one of those things that you always want to keep working with them. That's super cool that you've been able to do that and stay loyal in quotes you know what I mean. Like, because that's hard to do, especially in racing, because people want to just move forward and they jump to the next bigger thing. But you've stayed loyal.
Speaker 5:That's rad yeah, no, it's been tough. I mean even like thinking, trying to drive been my main goal for the past two years is to drive for someone else. I mean, I think goal is kind of I get just uh driving, not arriving drive, but just drive for someone else. Right, costs are way down and you don't have to deal with working on your own truck. But I don't know. It's tough to say Sorry. I'm reading the comments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to say.
Speaker 1:I actually want to phrase this question a little different, though. So Dangler88 asks how's the Tisco compared to the Lumicraft? But instead of talking about the trucks, talk about how they feel when you're driving them.
Speaker 5:For me that's kind of hard to say between the two, because when I hear that question I think like suspension geometry how the thing goes in and out of corners whoops whatever. Geometry how it goes in and out of corners whoops, whatever. Having a motor with 200 more horsepower in this truck and a transmission with three more gears and paddle shifting makes it hard to compare, just in the sense that the truck itself has the drivetrain to make it faster. You know, so you can't, makes it hard to say like, oh, this thing's so much smoother, so it's so much faster, right, because it's put it on the highway. We did it in 53 and it had more, and so it makes it hard to say, um, I like the craft, just I think it digs a little bit or has a bit more forward bite.
Speaker 5:But I also have disco since the thousand of 2022, so a kind of far off, whatever they base it a while since I've drove that one. So it's not an exact comparison, um, but both trucks have their strong points. I mean, I think the tisco was maybe a little bit more nimble. I have them a lot differently. The shocks on old truck, I had them a lot stiffer. This truck is really soft for San Felipe, which I kind of wish I would have made a little bit stiffer after going through the race and hitting all those whoops.
Speaker 1:Do you have to have a conversation with your lower back the next day and be like man? I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5:It's been through enough now. I mean, the 10 cars really tore me up down there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 5:And a 10 car compared to the truck. I mean it's just smooth, you know, not a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not comparable it really isn't, but hey.
Speaker 1:So a couple things that I wanted to bring up is like so I started racing side-by-sides in late 2014, early 2015. Okay, and Brock was already at the track. He was a little kid dude and I don't want to be like the old guy saying this, but the reason I'm bringing it up is because every time we got on the track he was always fast, but the best part about it was is their family and their support mechanism was always there. Like I love that, because they were one of the first teams that showed me that off-road was such a uh, I don't know a collaborative effort and everybody was willing to help yeah, that's super cool yeah, it was just neat to see right when he was three.
Speaker 5:yes, yeah, Anyway, what year did you say that was George?
Speaker 1:It was like I think you were barely getting into UTVs like late 14, early 15.
Speaker 5:That's what I was thinking. I was probably around 13, 14 at the time.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, and his mustache was perfect then too.
Speaker 2:No, that's so cool, especially at the start.
Speaker 1:That's like the ripe age yeah, I remember I needed some sort of part and they like they even went around the pits looking for the part. That's crazy, that's so sick, because I was used to dirt bikes like I didn't know and I was like, oh, these guys are gonna be dicks like they're never gonna like help me out such a different world. Yeah, it was like awesome and I'm like holy crap, like whole team, like everybody on the team was so awesome to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, for sure. I do have another question what involvement did you have in the progress of the build? Were there things that were like we were just talking about this, but things that were tailored to you, or your driving you know, something that you wouldn't compare to with another driver?
Speaker 5:That's a tough question. I wouldn't say it was. There was anything like that was typically one off. I mean we did build the truck. It at first it was a sequential um set up with the shifter adam switch it to paddles after not long, uh, so they did work and after all the links, all that, yeah um, but it wasn't really, uh, special input. I mean they knew what, how tall are you? I'm. I think I'm like five, eight, I don't know. I haven't measured myself in forever and the seat was raised four inches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ty, in forever. The seat was raised four inches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tyler, just said the seat was raised four inches.
Speaker 5:Was that like a? Day Does he always mess with you the Tisco, yeah, so yeah, tyler preps the Tisco and that truck. It had more of a seat than the Tisco or the Tisco prep. Sorry, but now back to the question.
Speaker 1:Really there's nothing special for me.
Speaker 1:Five-nine with a mustache. Hey, actually, this is a good point that I was actually bringing, like we were talking about seating, like yesterday or today. But anyways, when you sit in the race car, do you sit like real straight up and like really like up towards, like on the steering wheel, or do you like to be a little bit more back and down further? Because I think there's a big difference in how you uh perceive the race depending on how you sit and where you're sitting in the truck yes, uh, I like.
Speaker 5:I like sitting closer to the wheel. It kind of I don't know if I can't really, but I like my arms to be close to me and I like the wheel. I don't know if I can't really, but I like my arms to be close to me and I like the wheel. Probably only three inches Enough room for my hands if I need to go over the wheel. I like being on the wheel, Especially in a truck. You have to try to be over the hood for any you're going down hills or anything you need to, to try to be over the hood for anything. If you're going down hills or anything, you need to be able to be over the front. I try to sit within like two inches or so. Yeah, Like just all the way up Dang.
Speaker 2:that's crazy.
Speaker 1:How do?
Speaker 2:you like sitting in the car. I like pretty close to the wheel, but I'm usually pretty low. So, mostly because I like to I don't know I feel more closer to the track and I just feel like I have a better foundation when I'm not as high up. If I'm high up, I feel super tippy, even mostly like my seat. Like. I know that the car is not raised, but I still feel very tippy, yeah, it's the perception of where you're at.
Speaker 1:Yes, for sure, that's kind of crazy that you say that Like Rob will know this too, especially from short course racing. But like, the more you can be one with the car and like feel it yeah, they call it like driving with your butt right, yeah, Because you can feel it and you can understand everything so everything from the center of your body moves less. When you can do that Like, like, if you have those four elements to be able to sense those things down in your core, that means that you're you're move less on the steering wheel, you move less on the foot pedals and you can drive so much easier because everything is centered yeah, for sure, I agree yeah and I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5:And I like to be low normally, but just with the truck I mean, the hood is five feet out of the dash, like. If you're not as close as you can get, the vision sucks. But like in a Razor, I sit all the way down, eyes damn near just above the wheel. You know, it doesn't bother me in something like that, more of an open-wheel car with the when the front's a little bit shorter, but with the truck I just prefer being as high as I can.
Speaker 1:I got a good segue here. So he's like leaning back like a cholo and a razor. Does that mean that you have a specific hype song when you go to race?
Speaker 5:like no, I I heard you guys asked this one for kate and I was trying to come up with one, but no, um, if anything, it would just be like a hard rock song. You know, I don't have anything specific, just something to get my heart rate up, cause, if not, I just, I don't know, I get nervous, honestly, my name is Kira.
Speaker 2:I feel like the mustache fits the hard rock. I guess, he could go crunchy, yeah, but they've been having a lot of intermingling.
Speaker 1:Rap guys now are running country mustaches yeah.
Speaker 2:Does he also wrap it around the wheel when he needs both hands to eat his sandwich?
Speaker 1:Your mustache has muscle memory.
Speaker 5:Kind of yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's funny because, first of all, it's awesome that he's already got that. He's cultivating it. It's badass. But I feel like it's funny because we're talking about serious stuff and everybody's being dicks and being like no, let's talk about his mustache.
Speaker 2:I've tried to be serious for like a second, but I can't right.
Speaker 3:How long did it take you to grow that bad?
Speaker 5:dog, I know dude, I just had someone ask me that like yesterday and I started thinking back and honestly I couldn't tell you. I mean I'm I want to say like around a year almost, but I really don't know. I mean I can't think back with the racing and everything I'm just always thinking for, like the next thing, we're always going forward. Right, I've lost track of time, like how fast time has passed in the past couple years and so, yeah, I, I really couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1:We're talking about like doing all kinds of crazy stuff to the truck, like do you have to use special sauce on the Mustang, I know no, oh, like on the daily or like when I'm racing. Oh, just to keep it pristine.
Speaker 5:I do put a little bit of stuff in it, yeah, just to keep it nice and soft and smooth.
Speaker 2:He's ready for this dude I'm liking the effort. All right, going into something a little more serious, um, you mentioned to me that you were currently attending asu. What's your major?
Speaker 5:first of all, oh god, um, so I'm, I'm, I've kind of drug this college deal out a little bit. But I started in engineering, didn't work out, basically wasted. That Went to business. Now I'm basically doing business and entrepreneurship. Okay, should be graduating in December. Okay, but be graduating in December? Okay, but we'll see. I just got some pretty bad news that I've been doing online back here in California. Probably I thought I was going to be able to graduate online and I guess my major doesn't really offer that. So my last, like five classes, I need to take my last semester. Either I'm going to have to move back to school or change to another major, I don't really know.
Speaker 1:I feel like they always do that, though I feel like there's always something that happens like that, because you're not the first person that's told us, like me, that at least I'm just like dude. Why can't? It just happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like me that at least I'm just like dude. Why can't it just happen? Yeah and like, and the disappointing part is, I mean, I only moved to online december, so like into the fall semester, whatever, to start this year, and uh, I was a impression that I could finish fully online and not have to go back, and not the case. So, yeah, yeah, a little frustrating.
Speaker 2:Because racing is so demanding. Did that kind of influence the decision to move school online?
Speaker 5:Oh, for sure. I mean. That was one of the main reasons I basically live at my shop. My house is right in front of the shop, whatever. So I do all the work on the pre, most of the work on it. It's a lot of time and here, if not. I'd end up driving back the other weekend. You know, for three days just work on the car non-stop and drive back. So just makes more sense for me to do.
Speaker 1:Honestly, that bums me out like I hate hearing stories like that because like the first, the first thing that you think you're like all right. Well, fuck it, I don't know how you're going to complete it, like I already got the education. I just won't have a piece of paper now because like that stuff like really like it's wasting. Your time is what it is, and time is so valuable.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yesterday about it and I basically told him I was like I've spent too much time here, like I'm just ready and I need to keep on. And you know, like keep, like I don't want to say holding me back, like I could be doing other things, and yeah, I've got college now but having one semester left, like you said, like I don't want to quit, I'm finished now but it's.
Speaker 1:I'm stuck in this loop, in a sense yeah, I hate that people put you in a position like that, like, and then we actually talk about this all the time. There's a process and there's people right, and the people are always held up by the process.
Speaker 4:If the people would just think outside the box and have a different perspective.
Speaker 1:They could adjust the process and then the people would Win, no matter what, on both sides. Yeah, but it doesn't happen. It's so weird. Well, what's up? What are the racing questions do you have? Because I actually Well, so, first and foremost, we already talked about a couple things. You talked about you driving a trophy truck. We talked about you guys building a trophy truck. It took a while to build and you had all the patience to do that. We talked about your education and we talked about you know you as a youngster. Like, where does that all feed in to the next 10 years of your life? Because there's a lot to unpack there. Right, like, how do you foresee everything that's going to happen? Because you're going to have an education. You're going to have an education. You're going to have a trophy truck that works better next race. There's all kinds of things that are going to happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's something I've been asking myself for the past six months probably now, knowing I'm getting close to the end of school. I mean, right now I'm just back home working on the farm, basically just helping my dad. But when I graduate, what am I going to do from there? I still haven't figured out what I want to do. I'm going to have a business entrepreneurship degree, but what do I want to do with that? I'm not sure really. I just want to follow racing. That's all I know. I've been doing it, for this is my 16th year. I'm 23. It's the majority of my life. That's really all I know. All I've done is worked on cars and drove them. That's a hard one for me to answer, because I really don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say I'm just playing it by ear but hoping for my calling, I guess right, I'm just well and I can understand the the latency to ask that or to answer that question too, because you have so many things that are just being like kind of just floating in the air right now, right with all the things that have happened over the past couple weeks, like I get it, uh. But I know that you want to be a champion, I know that you want to race and I know that you want to be a champion. I know that you want to race and I know that you want to make the sport better so do any of those things ever influence your mindset to be like you know what if it doesn't work this way.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go this way, or like. Do you think?
Speaker 5:like a racer like I will always achieve a goal so all of it, yeah, so I'd like to keep racing. Um, it's just, it's expensive to race a trophy truck, right. So we're doing it again. And even if I had to get out of racing like driving a car itself, right I think I'd still be in the industry. Somehow, like I want to stay in the industry because I feel like I don't want to say I could help it, but I've got a solid experience at such an age that it's just what I know you know and.
Speaker 5:I don't know if I could say I'd be like an announcer or anything like that. I don't think I have the speech skills for that, but uh.
Speaker 5:I've even thought maybe I'll go down the uh more of the fab side. You know I've always had an interest in that, but it's something I've never fully learned. I've kind of taught myself a little bit enough for what I need to do. But uh, yeah, I mean I racing is my life. Right, that's what I've been around. I can't afford my life, but we'll see. I mean I'm open to really anything. It sucks to say now that I've got a really nice truck and everything brand new, I have just as much fun racing 10 cars. As long as I'm behind the wheel, I'm having fun. Obviously, the trophy truck is just another level. Like it's just insane. I can go out there and race anything and just really just you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I honestly like that, Like, and just to hear how mature he is and how humble he is. He has a lot of humility, right? Yeah, I think you could be a fantastic mentor too, even at your young age, right, like the way that you talk and the way that you uh, carry yourself, yeah, and how? You how you understand and relate to people like you don't just have to be a racer. Like you can be a helper too, and I think dude now that I'm putting two and two together.
Speaker 1:I think that started when you were young, like what I saw from your guys's team I'm sorry wait, what do you mean? Like how you like how you learned, like, like you're a mentor, like you were taught, like to help yeah, no, I mean, my dad is.
Speaker 5:I don't want to say he's taught me on my own or independent, you know, but he's shown me so much now that just from learning what he's taught me and how he taught me, you know, I feel like I can translate it also to other people very well. But yeah, no, I'm, that is something I actually considered, I don't know why. The thought just kind of popped into my head a couple days ago. Um, just what about like a driving school, or just random?
Speaker 1:for sure. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 5:I. I don't know if I could do that. I would feel like I'm on a high horse if I did that. I think like I thinking. I don't know if I could do that. I would feel like I'm on a high horse if I did that. I think Like I don't know.
Speaker 1:The best teachers are the ones that are on the same level as everybody else, for sure, the ones that definitely see themselves on the same level as who they're teaching. Yeah, 100%. You know what Teachers learn more from the students than they do when they teach it's crazy. Something like you know what they like? Teachers learn more from the students and they teach like it's crazy. So, like, something like that would be super cool, you know what? Because that doesn't really even Exist. Like it's like it, that would be new for the industry.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's my dad commenting stunt driving. Yeah, that needs the strut driver.
Speaker 2:I've always had an interest in that. I'll be a stunt driver in movies.
Speaker 4:That sounds really fun, you gotta let me know what movies you're in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the stunt driving thing does sound pretty cool. Our boy, dustin Nelson, does a lot of that stuff now too. But what I just thought of with stunt driving. You know how many hype songs he's gonna get from stunt driving. Oh, you're gonna do a hype song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta let me know when you figure that out too.
Speaker 5:All right, I will.
Speaker 2:Do you have any more questions?
Speaker 1:No, I just wanted to say thank you for the help you did and when you showed me for Off-Road man here. I can't wait to see you get out there and just rip that trophy truck.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:All right. Thank you guys for having me on. It was good catching up, George. It's been a long time since we talked. Bella, thank you for the invite.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for everything. I had a blast talking to you, Bye bro. Bye bro.
Speaker 1:Dude he's such a solid guy.
Speaker 4:I know for sure.
Speaker 1:You know what's cool about that, though, too, his family was jumping in, and hanging out and chiming in too and making jokes. No, that was super sick our next guest is one of my favorites our next guest.
Speaker 2:I have never talked to, but has been my role model for so long dude and she has nice hair yes, she always has nice hair. You got an intro hi brooke. Yes, I do so. Brookeensen is from you said a small town in California. Yeah, what if I pronounced it wrong? Pine and Hills, oh yeah, pennant, pennant Hills. She started her career at just nine years old. Huge Lucas Oil background, but now takes on the desert, accomplishing two back-to-back podiums at California University.
Speaker 1:Solid.
Speaker 5:Solid Thank you Solid.
Speaker 3:Thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:So are you going to be attending California 300 this year?
Speaker 3:So unfortunately, I don't think we're going to be attending this year. We're kind of just figuring out what exactly the next step is in my career and from then maybe we'll see if we're going to stay in the desert. If not, then maybe at a see. If we're going to stay in the desert, um, if not, then maybe at a different event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure and wait.
Speaker 3:What are the other options? You know we've we've thought about um, nitro, uh cross, the rally racing um has definitely grown and so that has caught my interest uh, recently. I do have a huge short course background, so that could definitely be a factor. There's just so many different opportunities within racing that everything's kind of just up in the air figuring out what is going to be the best for us in the next step.
Speaker 1:So, brooke, if you want any help with getting into natural rally cross, I can call Scottie Lawrence and try to give you a little bit of a one up so you can thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I appreciate that yeah, just let me know yeah, we recently went to the nitro crossing glen helen this last year, but it was a crazy turnout, super cool. The racing is phenomenal, so I'd love to see you out there. That'd be super rad thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we uh we went to one of them and watched, and you know I've watched Cowboy and Amanda Sorensen and everybody kind of stepping into it and I really love the publicity that people get from it. And it's something I do miss in short course. You know, short course was all about the fans and traveling across the world and desert. I feel like that's one thing that I do miss is most of our races are in, you know, barstow or las vegas or something along the lines of that, and it would be really cool to kind of set foot in that um field again and kind of see what I can do yeah, she's got a really good point there too.
Speaker 1:It's like when you're out in the middle of desert, they're probably watching, but when you're in a close course environment, there's a lot of people right, so you can interact with people. And one of the things that I think makes her heart the happiest is actually being around people yeah, for sure definitely 100 percent scrolling through your instagram just for a second.
Speaker 2:I saw like all the keynote stuff that you do and all the things that you do with kids and everything like that being able to like talk to people on such a personable level is really cool yes, it's definitely something I love and the keynote speaking has definitely has a special spot in my heart.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, the way that these kids you know respond to my speech and kind of my story is just, it inspires me sometimes. They inspire me that really cool.
Speaker 2:I want to know a little bit more about keynotes. Can you give me a rundown of like how that works and just the general basic stuff?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so actually I started keynote speaking about, I would say, probably five years ago.
Speaker 3:I keynote spoke at the middle school that I went to school at and you kind of just you know, tell your story and I inspire the kids as of my messages. Your condition is not your conclusion. Where you are right now is not where you're going to end up, as long as you're willing to put in, you know, the hard work and determination and all of the above, where you are, the home you're raised in, the friends you're around, doesn't have to be the end of your journey. So, kind of sharing a little bit about my story, we play a quick video of you know the racing industry and what I do and where I came from, and then show a quick glimpse of you know my treatment, that I go through with Lyme disease, and then you know, just give them the rundown of inspiring them and we go outside after we show them the car and sign autographs, takes picture, take pictures and uh, gosh, it's awesome, it's between racing and keynote speaking. It's their, their hand in hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's super rad and you know what's funny about that statement is and I know everybody in this conversation right now and everybody that's watching will understand this racing is only a little part of conversation right now, and everybody that's watching will understand this Racing is only a little part of it, right? Yeah, the things that you do to help other people. That's what the real win is Like. That's the real win, right? And some of this stuff has I don't know connections in it, right, brooke? Because you can go win a race, but you have to fight through that race.
Speaker 1:You have to get stuck in a rut, you know, but you have to fight through that race. You have to. You get stuck in a rut, you know you want to cry. You have to get to the finish line. You can't give up. You got to push your pain. You got to push your broken car. All of that stuff people experience in life, whether it's Lyme disease, whether it's diabetes, whether it's a broken bone, whether it's somebody else around you dying, whether it's a breakup any of that stuff, right? And so you're culminating all of this stuff and sharing your experiences with people, and the best part about it is it's just true, it's real life and you are able to have that connection with those people.
Speaker 3:It must feel so good and it does. In one of my um motivation videos that we did, um I told, or I I said that I look at life like a finish line. You know, in a race there's so many challenges. Each mile there's so many challenges, and that's just like every year, every day, every second. You know everything we go to. You've got to overcome them to be able to get to that finish line. In life, as well as in racing, especially in desert racing and as long as you're willing to, you know, put in the hard work, especially these kids now that live in the society and the world that we live in. Their hope isn't all there, just like how. When I was raised, you know, I had so much hope and these kids get brought down a lot and what they're raised around with social media. It's insane. And as long as I can touch one life out of all 800 kids that I speak to in a day, you know I feel like I'm winning. I definitely feel that at least one life that I can touch is important.
Speaker 2:For sure, have you ever had a instance in your career like a trial, where you had to kind of shift your perspective from like being you know not I don't want to say negative, but being in like a different perspective to just kind of shifting it like okay, I'm going to look at it from this point of view now and see if it helps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100%. I would feel that my biggest challenge that I've had is being diagnosed with Lyme disease when I was just four years old. I do know nothing different than being sick every day, but there's definitely days that you know, hey, I have treatment, I have a doctor's appointment, or you know, I can't do that. I don't, I'm not capable, capable for that right now, and I feel like that was that's definitely a challenge that keeps coming up in my life that I just kind of have to adapt to. And you know I can't do that, but I can do this, and that's why I love racing so much, because when I'm racing it's more of as an escape for me.
Speaker 1:Um, I put a helmet on and my eyes are blank and I'm just right, on course for sure is that hard to fight, though, because, like a racer mentality is like patience is not an option, like you don't have patience and then all of a sudden in life you just get kicked in the in the shins and you're like great, like now I have to wait, now I have to go through this process and now like that must teach you so much yeah, 100, 100, especially right now.
Speaker 3:Um, I feel like this year, as we're taking racing a little bit slower and going through treatment, um, it's hard, it's really hard, but I know that if I'm willing to put my body at the best it can be by the end of this year, I can't imagine what the next years are to be to become Like. I can tell you this last month I probably had 20 vials of blood drawn and tests done, that things that I didn't even know about that were going on with me, like being allergic to lettuce, like who would ever know?
Speaker 2:yeah, gosh, I don't know what I'd do without lettuce that's wild. Yeah, wow, yeah, there's like uh from your point of view for sure, like even personally having to deal with something, but kind of like in the long run, like yes, I have to deal with something, but kind of like in the long run, like, yes, I have to deal with this today, but you know, if I deal with it today, tomorrow will be a little bit better.
Speaker 3:Yes, and that's the hardest part is learning to take care of my body, because I'm always somebody that's go, go, go, you know, going to college working full time. You know, racing keynote speaking, I tend to not care about how I feel, and you know, racing keynote speaking, I tend to not care about how I feel and you know the things that are happening and I'm slowly realizing that that's taking a toll on my body, and when I start taking care of myself more, the better I feel, the more I'm able to do.
Speaker 1:Dude, that's so hard.
Speaker 2:I couldn't relate to that anymore. I'm struggling with that right now, so you're definitely helping me to stop. Well, good.
Speaker 1:It's so hard though. It's so hard, though, because, like society is in gratification, you can just go get a hamburger from McDonald's and just do all that crap, like I don't know. It's wild that you guys can have that much willpower at such a young age. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, it's crazy, like I got my allergy test back and it was lettuce, you know, black pepper, beef, avocados, asparagus, oranges, eggs, cow milk, like so many things. And I was so overwhelmed, like what am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to eat? But one day at a time I'm able to figure it out, yeah that's really cool.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. You know, what's funny is there's a joke in there too, because people are like, what? You can't eat meat, why don't you just eat lettuce? And you're like, well, I can't eat that 100 percent.
Speaker 3:That's super funny have you been adjusting good what was that?
Speaker 1:have you been adjusting good though yeah, um, I did.
Speaker 3:I guess I would say the hardest part is just cravings. You know, like I really just want a protein style from In-N-Out and it's like, well, you can't have that. So guess what? You're eating chicken today. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can find stuff, though you can make all kinds of different concoctions 100%.
Speaker 3:yeah, I've noticed meal prepping helps a lot and kind of just not having those things in the house um are really helpful.
Speaker 2:I think we throw away like two entire trash bags of stuff that I can't eat, so it's just not in the house and I can't eat it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:You're probably so much healthier than all of us, though it's insane, you know, like I live on coffee with how busy I am and I feel like I with eating healthy and you getting the right exercise and starting to take the supplements and figure out what's going on with my body and the medications and stuff. Like, wow, you know, I come home and I'm ready to go for a two and a half mile walk and it's like I still have homework to do and to cook dinner and all this stuff and it's like I can still do that all yeah, stuff and it's like I could still do that all.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Do you ever sit down and think because we were actually talking about this the other day too like how much crap you can actually get or how much productive stuff you can get in what done in one day?
Speaker 3:100%. Yeah, it's like the more you prioritize your time, the better it is, and I have found that huge. You know you have 24, so many hours in a day. It's just what you pick to do and what you choose to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's wild. So, all right, you tell us about a normal day for you after I say this. So today I got up super early, right, I was in Poway, I went to Oceanside and now I'm up here in Banning, so there was probably five hours worth of driving around. There was at least 15 racers that I helped at the Legacy Race today we had to make and create two Starlink kits for some trophy trucks that are going down in Nora. We had at least six phone calls for meetings that were at least half an hour 45 minutes long, and then I got up here and I was like wow, I feel like.
Speaker 1:I'm having some fun on a podcast, you know what I mean and you get to a point where you're just like dude. It's so chill Like I got this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's crazy what you can fit into a day, especially when you have a huge to-do list. It's like, wow, I really got all that done.
Speaker 1:yeah what's a day in the life?
Speaker 3:well, it changes, uh, most of the time. But, uh, I usually wake up, get some homework done, uh, get ready for work which I work with special education students every single day. I'm gaining experience for my career and, um, go to work, come home, cook dinner and usually go for a walk and then work on some more homework. Right now, as we're not racing, it's kind of a little bit more laid back. We have a little bit more time to do things here and there. But when we were racing you know a lot last year, it was like we were up here during the week working on the car and still had homework to do. I was doing homework on the way out to the races.
Speaker 2:So busy days, yeah busy days, for sure, even. Yeah, being able to fit all of that in one day, that's more than a lot of people could say, because some people I mean I can definitely say I've been this person at a time, but I'll like have a whole to-do list and a bunch of things to do, and then I get to the list and I get so overwhelmed that I just end up doing nothing.
Speaker 2:So I have days like that, for sure. But you're right, most of my life is just go, go, go, go go and it's super hard to stop and like okay, man, have I ate.
Speaker 4:Today have I drank water did.
Speaker 5:I check my blood sugars. Did I do?
Speaker 1:any things I should have done so, dude, you got the laser focus us females do they usually? Oh yeah, females do for sure have you talked to any of the people that you, uh, I don't want to say like motivate is such an overused word, but that you try to help and you try. Have you talked with them? Uh, anytime, like those follow-ups with them?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's actually really cool. I was doing this Lyme disease awareness type of like Zoom calls with certain people that I would call in. You know, try to educate them, or, you know, be there for them, or you know, I tried this, you should try that. Or I recently had to stop doing that just because it was taking up so much of my time. I recently had to stop doing that just because it was taking up so much of my time. But it's really cool because a lot of the kids that I spoke to and motivated, I see, usually daily, and it just brings a whole nother perspective, not just being, like you know, a teacher to them or something like that. It's more of like a personal level, like, hey, I'm going through this, what would you do? And it's pretty awesome because it it makes me love my job.
Speaker 1:yeah, for sure well, not only that, but like you're being real right, like that realness like makes it more of a difference than you'll ever know, because you're not like being a doctor and just giving them facts, yeah yeah you're broken. This is wrong with you. This is wrong with you. You gotta do this to fix this. You're just like dude. How can I help?
Speaker 3:right, right and, as of april, this is my 17th year battling lyme disease, so you know there's a ton of education wow, that's super cool yeah, and I'm proud of you for sharing your life experience because some of that
Speaker 4:stuff is tough to talk about?
Speaker 3:yeah, and it definitely was, especially when I was younger. I didn't really, you know, tell people, because I just wanted to be normal. I just wanted to be the normal kid, the normal person. Yeah, and I felt like every time I saw somebody that I haven't seen in a while, they'd be like, oh, how are you doing, how are you feeling? It's like I don't want to talk about that. Yeah, so, becoming older and more mature, um, it's huge to spread awareness because Lyme disease is becoming more and more populated and these people are going through this disease without, you know, any type of education. I can't even tell you how many times I've been denied by a doctor. You're not sick. What are you talking about? And it's like what are you talking about? That's crazy. I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2:That's the whole thing I'm talking about and it's like what are you talking about? That's crazy. I don't know exactly what you mean that's the whole thing I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Is they just have a problem listening?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah, even like being able to be so personable with someone too, especially bringing awareness for the people that can't, because a lot of people like to talk, but some people can't talk about stuff like that or they they don't know how to socialize with another person. So, having you, you know, also going through experience that they are too, and then being able to bring awareness and they can be like oh, it's. Ok to talk about it, it is OK to feel this way or feel that way, so that's really good, thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a very good perspective too. Yeah, for sure hey well so what have you been doing the past?
Speaker 3:like I don't know, because I feel like I haven't talked to you in like a year well, uh, very busy, like I said, uh, going to college and trying to figure all that out, navigate that, doing that online. Um, I did have to change my major just because I was doing it in early child development and I was like halfway through and then they told me that you know, your major is no longer online, you have to come in and I work full time so I can't come in.
Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh we're just talking about this.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, I think right now I'm going to finish my degree in business and marketing and then, while I'm teaching, I would like to work in the industry within the marketing and business group as long with racing. I recently got to drive a spec trophy truck.
Speaker 3:That's so cool. I don't think I've ever smiled so big in my entire life. It was so crazy, like I. I can't wait to get back in that driver's seat because I feel like I was just living a dream and I wasn't able to focus so much on like what exactly the truck felt like more like oh my gosh, this is so awesome.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I'm in the truck, yeah yeah, so um that was really awesome and just kind of working on treatment, getting myself healthy, figuring out what our next plans are, and, uh, still, uh, my boyfriend Brian co-drives in a trophy truck, so we're still at every race, still busy, as ever.
Speaker 1:Look at the picture in the background.
Speaker 3:I like it. I've been watching, yeah that's super cool, it looks like you got a bunch of things in the works.
Speaker 2:So I'm super, super glad for you, super happy, and I cannot wait to see what else you got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one of the things that I want to say before we let Brooke go is like one of the kids just asked like how do I get into racing?
Speaker 1:Right? Yeah, well, the way that you get into racing is you think about it from a life perspective, right? Like Brooke. Like Brooke is winning at life. She's been dealt some hard cards, right, but she doesn't give up, she just keeps going, she keeps pushing forward and she has the mentality of just playing willpower, like there's nothing that can stop her. And those traits in some cases are very, very hard to learn, because you get put on your back a lot of times, right, but when you come out, you're that much stronger of a person. So you should be very proud of yourself and you should keep going and helping people, man, because you're doing a fantastic job you really are.
Speaker 2:Thank you guys. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Hey, what are you going to do next where we can see you? Yeah and hang out.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Hopefully we'll be driving a trophy truck next time I see you guys, I would love to see that.
Speaker 2:That's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's huge and it was really awesome. Uh, I think next next thing up on the calendar is, uh, cowboys bmf kids camp. Uh, I'll be going back up there again and, uh, doing the kids camp with dustin jones and cowboy and everybody else, um, and then just doing what I'm doing, picking away at each thing I want to accomplish. Yeah, that's super cool. That's the way to go about it, for sure.
Speaker 1:Dude awesome. Once I eat the elephant one bite at a time.
Speaker 2:You bring that up every podcast.
Speaker 1:It's true, though, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2:No, I'm obsessed too 100%.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:It benefits me to 1000%, but really hope you have a good rest of your day.
Speaker 3:Thank you, guys, for having me.
Speaker 1:You put a bigger smile on our faces, thanks, Bye guys, bye Do you and you know. What's crazy about, like a lot of the conversations that we had today, was that there's so many things that are mingled together with all these fantastic people right, they get taught certain things about family.
Speaker 1:They get taught certain things about life and goals. I don't know To me when I hear that every single day we go out and we get bummed on life because we see so many crappy experiences or crappy people. Right, this gives you a lot of hope, hearing all these awesome individuals.
Speaker 2:No for sure. Being able to just see that racing isn't just. You know, you get in the car and you drive and you go through a hard race. It's everything that has to go with it, and like everything it teaches you too, like there's some things that I'm going to take from racing that I'll probably more than I'll take from school. Yeah, I love school, but definitely Life lessons.
Speaker 1:Yes for sure, Dude. Look at that purple car. Oh, no wait, that's a red. That's Corbin. That's Corbin, that is Corbin.
Speaker 2:Corbin does some sweet pictures. Well, I got one more question for you guys.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:So this is the seventh episode of the Lost Corner. Give us some feedback.
Speaker 5:I mean, we've been doing this for a little bit now and you're right.
Speaker 2:We hit like a little milestone where it's like getting serious now. I mean, I feel like it's been getting serious, but I'd love to hear some feedback on how I'm doing, how I need to, you know, be better and excel myself, and who I can bring on to the show that you guys would love to listen to. So I'd really love to hear all that. My my instagram is bella prashar.
Speaker 1:Look me up say hi, you can always slide into the dirt life show as well. Um, and send us dm so that you can get her a little bit of feedback. That would actually be really cool. We just talked about it all day today about how much people listen and how much people grow, and she's inviting you guys to give her some feedback so sure I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 2:Listen, listening, right, yep, thank you guys for coming on and we'll see you for episode eight. Maybe Deuces?
Speaker 6:Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show. See you next week. We'll be right back.