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I mean, maybe you"},{"speaker":"Jeremy Cline","startTime":1271.09,"endTime":1274.87,"body":"could share your story, you went"},{"speaker":"Jeremy Cline","startTime":1271.09,"endTime":1274.87,"body":"through teaching languages to"},{"speaker":"Jeremy Cline","startTime":1274.9,"endTime":1275.77,"body":"data science."},{"speaker":"Nicholas Cifuentes-Goodbody","startTime":1275.98,"endTime":1278.41,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Nicholas Cifuentes-Goodbody","startTime":1275.98,"endTime":1278.41,"body":"Absolutely. 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