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Thank you for your help"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2398.11,"endTime":2402.88,"body":"for your Inspirational sort of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2398.11,"endTime":2402.88,"body":"yourself and the things you've"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2402.88,"endTime":2405.64,"body":"done within your career, the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2402.88,"endTime":2405.64,"body":"knowledge that you've shared"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2405.64,"endTime":2409.99,"body":"with people who might be having"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2405.64,"endTime":2409.99,"body":"gut issues, but also the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2409.99,"endTime":2412.51,"body":"knowledge that you've given me"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2409.99,"endTime":2412.51,"body":"today and things I need to work"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2412.51,"endTime":2415.15,"body":"on to improve my own gut health."},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2412.51,"endTime":2415.15,"body":"And hopefully the audience has"},{"speaker":"Aaron Boysen","startTime":2415.15,"endTime":2418.0,"body":"got it too. 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