Nothing is perfect , we live in a battle , we live in a war zone and the reality of good and evil in our world , in our culture , is so wow , it's so real , it is very blatant in your face and that the destination is not the goal , it is the journey , it's the process and it's that transformation along the way .
Speaker 2If your marriage was in trouble , what lengths would you go to to save it ? And when you're on the other side of the battle to win , what would you do to encourage others to stay , fight and overcome ? Hello and welcome to Restoring the Soul , a podcast dedicated to helping you close the gap between what you believe and what you actually experience . I'm your producer , brian Beatty . Thanks so much for listening . On this edition of Restoring the Soul , michael welcomes Eli and Kelly Pike to discuss their emotional journey from a counseling intensive to the purchase of an RV and , ultimately , a cross-country adventure in hopes of saving their marriage . They documented their journey in the film The Far Green Country , which showed the lengths Eli and Kelly would go to to fight for each other's hearts and win . Stay tuned for the next 30 minutes , as we hope you'll be challenged by the Pike's courage to live intentionally and adventurously . So now , without any further delay , here's your host , michael John Cusick .
Speaker 3Well , I want to welcome to the podcast my friends Kelly and Eli Pike . Welcome to Restoring the Soul , Thank you , Michael .
Speaker 4Thanks for having us .
Speaker 3It's a real bonus to me , kelly , that you are joining us . You are as much a part of all of the story as Eli and your film's Far Green Country 1 and Far Green Country 2 . They have a little different emphasis and your voice and your story is really the first movie and the second movie is Eli , more your story of grief around losing your dad And , i think , both of you together . Yes , there's amazing cinematography and video involved . There's a great exposure to national parks and all around , but you guys are really storytellers . That's really what these movies are about And that's really who you are . You're living a story . So can you give some of the backstory as to how you bought a motorhome and drove around the country and filmed it ?
Speaker 1Yeah Well , it came out of basically a desperate need to be intentional about a life change and that the foundation of that was the birth of our son . That basically went in every way differently than we had hoped or expected . I had a pretty long , 56-hour labor , pretty traumatic situation for me and Dakota , and thankfully we were able to be in a developed country in a hospital , or else We probably wouldn't have survived that . But it left me with post-traumatic stress , night tears , anxiety and then , quickly after that , the exhaustion and distress of parenting and newborn . We had some pretty deep marital challenges , betrayal , kind of broken trust , and we were in a pretty rough place with our marriage .
Speaker 1And we knew that , with Eli traveling a lot for work me I'm the extrovert , he's the introvert , me kind of being stuck at home in a sort of traumatic space , we knew we needed to make an intentional change or else we might not make it long term , and so we had always loved adventure and traveling . We did that while we were dating , did that early years in our marriage before we had kids , and we decided , wow , how can we get back to that ? Those are the experiences that bring us joy , that bring us unity , that make our hearts come alive . How can we do that with a baby ? And we had never been RV people but we recognized wow , we can travel with a little home on wheels , with a bathroom and a kitchen and diapers and all the things that having little babies need , and we can still get out and find wildness and find solitude and beauty and try to reconnect . And so it was truly just kind of a desperate move to rescue our marriage .
Speaker 3And Eli , what was it like for you with all of that happening ? Were you the one that came up with the idea , or were you needing to be convinced ?
Speaker 4Definitely , as I do share in the first film , kelly's more of the well , let's go here , let's go there , big dreamer . More of the practical well , how are we going to do that ? What are we doing when we get there ? You know that kind of thing , kelly . You said it really well . You set up the story there . Just to give the little bit different perspective from my side . We left our house and headed out on the road in the motorhome just about six months after my intensive with you , michael .
Speaker 4So in many ways that season of our life and the journey that we began with the far green country began in your office and the redemption and healing in a lot of ways started there . Like Kelly said , we were in a really desperate place As I was grappling with my own self deception and the struggles as a male in a very sexualized world , and then also you know my own past and you know my upbringing . I mean there's so much that I was digging into there . The fact that we stayed together as a couple through that season is just evidence of Jesus , redemption and what it means to cling to the promise we made to each other . So it wasn't a few months after the intensive that Kelly and I were sitting in our driveway at the house . That really held a lot of trauma for us in memory good memories there too , but a place I feel like a place can really hold the memory of trauma in an unhealthy way And we were trying to figure out if we were going to sell it and try to move on in that way . And then I also was wanting to continue pursuing my film making and video production And that had become a bit of an issue just in regards to the me filming other people , mainly women . That made Kelly feel uncomfortable and had posed a problem for me and my ability to remain faithful . And so with my eyes , faithful with my eyes . So what I'm getting to here is Kelly was telling me I don't think I want you to keep doing filmmaking . And she's also telling me I'm not living alive fully , i'm not really in my sweet spot .
Speaker 4I had an amazing opportunity to go and film John Eldridge's motorcycle movie , which is called The Story Worth Living , and they had called and asked me to be one of the crew for that . It was like four months out And I was going to be flying there and be gone for two weeks And that was part of just the unhealthy situation with Kelly and I for our marriages that I would be flying And I'd be gone a lot . I was working a lot . I was working 40 to more , 60 , 70 hours a week and we were becoming disconnected .
Speaker 4So we were just troubleshooting , like how do I continue my career doing what I love while also bringing Kelly into a place where she's not alone , stuck at home with young children ? It was kind of a practical solution . Well , if we buy a motorhome , then we can travel to Colorado to do this film shoot And Kelly can stay in the motorhome with friends in Colorado and you know , like not be alone . And it was like , okay , well , let's buy a motorhome and give this a shot . We almost canceled . We bought the motorhome , we almost turned around and sold it a couple of times before we set sail there because it was so daunting . But anyway , that's the kind of the backstory in my perspective of what it was that really kind of kicked us out of the house and onto the road .
Yeah , well , i want to say a couple of things . Well , thank you so much for both of you talking about some of the more personal aspects , and you know some of the specifics about where you were struggling personally in your marriage . Certainly didn't expect that , but that's who you guys are And that's what this podcast is , of course , about . But I really think it's cool that as a couple that , kelly , you could have a voice and say this is what I want to be about .
Speaker 3I , too , want to have a career because you're , you know , highly trained in wilderness leadership and in being a wilderness first responder and training for Knowles and that kind of thing , and so at one point it would have been easy to just go oh well , he's the husband , he gets his career . And I guess you know there's a line at the beginning of the first movie where you said my life basically became laundry and scraping food off floors , and I remember those days and you guys didn't settle for that . You found a creative way that was actually connected to both of your passions and your longing for adventure . That has led you now to where you do something , that you're absolutely alive , and you've gotten your heart back and , eli , your career is expanding and growing .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's such a gift that we can both be in that place and and that , with Eli's work being , you know , remote and traveling from shoot to shoot , now we can do that in our motorhome altogether , so there's not these long , lengthy times of separation . And then we spend the summers at camp , which give us this community for part of the year , and I can be just in my sweet spot And it is , i mean , we're super , super grateful .
Speaker 3I want to talk about the movie , of course , and , for people that haven't been exposed to it or know about it or seen it , give them the opportunity to know about it , but also to say that I've talked with many , many , many couples that are at this point of something has to change , and without without saying names , i go . Well , i know this couple . Well , you know they bought a motorhome and they drove around it . Now that's their life And , to my knowledge , nobody's done that yet . But I think what's so , so cool is that there's there's always another way , there's always another path to go other than just keep on doing more of the same or expecting some big miracle to happen in front of us , that sometimes the miracle happens when we go okay , we can't make this work anymore , and it sounds like you're you're setting out on . This whole journey was about getting your hearts back , because you'd lost your hearts and neither one of you really knew who you were anymore .
Speaker 4Yeah , just reminded the scripture that says you'll know a tree by its fruit . We were in a lifestyle that wasn't necessarily right or wrong , but the fruit of it wasn't good fruit . I think , by shifting our circumstances , we allowed for just the creation of a different type of fruit , which you know take come out of the metaphor . We were , you know , traveling across the country , going to beautiful mountain places , you know , camping under the stars , and you know , going on hikes with our then three year old , and you know , getting out of that just normal , just kind of Wake up , go to work , come home , eat dinner and go to sleep , kind of lifestyle , leaving and getting into a motorhome and traveling around the country in no way saved our marriage . Like that's not what did it right because we still fought like crazy on the road .
Speaker 4We had some of our lowest Maritimes in marriage , like at the very end of that first year on the road . We've had many Very low points since , i mean , we're talking , i think I came to you in 2015 , so five years ago , and it hasn't been smooth sailing . What you know . So definitely shaking things up was was helpful leaving the house , getting on the road and trying to pursue our passions . But really the reason we're here is continued deep soul work , continued relational counseling and ultimately just the grace of Jesus and the redemption in in the gospel .
Speaker 3Yeah , amen . Well , i imagine that in every way possible , when you're living in the cramped quarters of a motorhome And you're with each other all the time , that that would Have the potential to bring up every issue that you've ever had , but just into a smaller space and more time . So the old , geographical Yeah there's no such thing as getting away from your problems .
Speaker 4Not at all , and then throw on top of that trying to make a film about it . It's a can be at times very , very Stressful .
Speaker 1I'll just say really funny looking back on it , right , but yeah , and you know , add in the two kids and we also have a dog and a cat with us now . So we're that's the six of us in our little 30 foot Home on wheels , so it's pretty pretty fun . But yeah , i mean just like our . I mean this is a long , this is a marathon , right , i mean marriage is certainly not a sprint , it is a marathon . It is a long , a peak climb and it's like our maturation process with God . I mean it is a lifelong journey and we're not gonna snap our fingers and have everything be perfect and and yeah , like Eli said , i mean we're we're inconsistent , counseling still and probably will be long term , just because we need that soul care living in the world , and It's a continued , just excavation process .
Speaker 4Yeah , if I could live in like just a full-time intensive , like you know , 50 weeks out of the year , it'd be pretty nice .
Speaker 3Well , isn't that what summer camp is , when you , when you run the wilderness programs ? That's kind of a physical wilderness intensive .
Speaker 1It's true . Yeah , absolutely , it's really really similar , yep .
Speaker 4Kelly , i was throwing a plug for .
Speaker 1Wilderness trail .
Speaker 4Call Kelly . If you want to do a soul , soul weak on the , what is it ?
Speaker 3Let's , let's do a shameless plug the the ministry In Colorado . it's a wilderness , i know I'm not , probably not supposed to say the outward bound , but it's kind of that where you're out in the wilderness and you're learning , and you're learning to be dependent and develop skills , so talk about it .
Speaker 1Correct . Yeah , so it is . It's a similar , you know outward bound style . The heart behind it's similar , except its ministry base , of course . So yeah , it's called Sky Ranch you trail . We're near Lake City , colorado , and the beautiful San Juan mountains . We take folks out for a week long just expedition Backpacking in the gorgeous backcountry and you know it creates a space for quiet and solitude and adventure and beauty , and I'm really coming face to face with yourself and with God and your team members , and so it's a phenomenally vulnerable experience . It's hard , masks are torn down and It's truly a transformational week and what's the website ?
Speaker 1Sky Ranchorg .
Speaker 3SKY Ranchorg correct . Yeah okay , kelly , you share an oft quoted statement from Emerson that life is a Journey and not a destination , and your comment around that was that you've come to understand that very differently From when you first heard . That . Can you talk about , and maybe both of you just comment on , what that has come to mean to you , that life is not this destination ?
Speaker 1Yeah , absolutely , i think . You know , i think growing up and I'd say I kind of grew up in more of a bubble space with my parents , kind of that's how they Just created a space where it was pretty safe and , you know , the ideal was the Expectation , and that was a blessing . As a child It gave me a really secure environment . But I think it also gave me these false expectations about marriage and about life and everything going smoothly , and if something was , you know , more challenging , it must not be the right thing , and I think it just kind of misled me in some ways .
Speaker 1And so I think that quote really represents the fact that nothing is perfect , we live in a battle , we live in a war zone , and the reality of good and evil in our world , in our culture , is so Wow , it's so real , it is very blatant in your face , and that The destination is not the goal , it is the journey , it's the process and it's that Transformation along the way and ultimately we will all be , you know , at the end . So we will all be Excited about the destination of eternity . But until then , i think having those kind of false expectations can lead to so much more disappointment and despair and hopelessness , and that we need to Take the challenges and take those bumps in the road as opportunities to grow instead of Areas to just choose despair . So that's kind of what it means to
me .
Speaker 3Hmm , so many of the themes and scenes and pictures and stories in both movies It's it's about Just being present to what is and to on the road . You know , you don't know what's gonna be around the next bend , and the the beauty of your storytelling and the imagery is that You did such a great job and some some of it is very unexpected and some of it is is tightly knit together . But it's just that idea of of Being in the moment . And I remember at the clip of the first movie to just the far green country , part one , it showed you guys before you had kids , and kind of the summary of you know Going down the side of a mountain of snow and being in Uganda and Mount Kilimanjaro and Eli you going over You know giant whitewater cliffs and stuff and it was like You know anybody would look at that and go , wow , that's life to the full .
Speaker 3And then here you are scraping food off the floor and doing laundry and Stumbling into marriage . But it's not by going in , seizing that moment or going after that moment . It's about being present in life and being awake and Certainly you guys have kind of positioned yourself for that to happen instead of working a nine to five humdrum job , but It's really obvious to me how you guys both have this gift and this , this intention to be present and have your heart open to whatever's happening in life .
Speaker 4Yeah , there's Just heard recently a quote and says God finds us in the present . Do you remember reading that to me ? Yeah , i think that the the quote Life is a journey , not a destination . It really speaks to the importance of living in the present . I think so often we get caught up in setting a goal for ourselves and aiming toward that goal whether it's I wanna get married or I wanna get a job , i want to graduate college And that becomes the goal . But what's most important is how we do it , how we get to that goal And then realizing that once we reach that goal , life continues . So just getting married is just entering the doorway into the journey of marriage And relationship with Christ , is getting getting saved and giving my life to Christ . That was entering the doorway . In some ways that was the destination , but the journey continues even now and I'm still accepting Christ in various areas .
Speaker 3Let me transition to the second movie . whereas Farthering Country I was about your journey , kelly , the second movie was really about your journey and particularly grief around losing your dad pretty unexpectedly , and there's some heart-wrenching scenes in the movie , two of which I wanna talk about because I can't imagine what it was like for you . but it opens basically with you giving your dad's eulogy and it's really emotional . So talk about how losing your dad and grief and wanting to honor him fueled this unexpected part too .
Speaker 4Shortly after getting the diagnosis of my dad's pancreatic cancer and learning that it may be just a few more months of life with him , i immediately or we as a family immediately came home and spent time with him . As soon as I could , i got my cameras out and sat down with my dad to just capture his life on camera And mainly with the plan to just have a memoir of his life to share with my kids and their kids and for myself to remember . And that conversation with my dad on camera was the most emotionally connected conversation I've ever had with him And he and I , as much as we shared a mutual love for each other , rarely expressed it and rarely knew how to just have a simple conversation throughout our life . And in those last few months of his life actually finally started doing that , which in some ways is really bittersweet . It's like how could I go my whole life without really knowing how to talk with my dad and then only in the last few months learn how to Yeah .
Speaker 4But in some ways that was the silver lining that I had to see the end coming and in order for my heart to be there And I think for him too , he really softened in those last days . So what came from that interview and conversation with my dad was his memoir video , which I created , i edited , which I began editing basically the moment I got the news of his final passing And it was a beautiful and heart wrenching and tear provoking 36 hours of editing in my small studio , pouring over photos of me with my dad and these conversations we had in the interview and putting together a 30 minute story of his life and his life with his wife and his kids , and myself included in sharing that at his memorial service , where I did share eulogy , and then included So in showing this memoir to people in the audience and myself and seeing it up on screen . and every life has such a touching story , every life has such passion and nuance And I was able to share that with the audience of his family and friends . And what that did for me in my own grief process there it was . I'm lacking words to explain how good it was for me to put that memoir together and to shed tears over these photos , as I was taking film footage of the photos to put into the memoir , and it gave me a passion to say I wanna do this more , i wanna bring my dad into our films . and it inspired me to want to grieve properly , whatever that looked like , Because when I was honest with myself , i never really knew how to grieve any deaths that had happened to me up to that point , and I had friends from high school that You know had tragic accidents .
Speaker 4I would run from that . I would . I would say to myself , oh , too bad for them , i'm gonna miss them . but I there's nothing I can do for him now and just carry on with my life . and so this was the first time , passing on my dad , that It was really clear to me that I couldn't do that .
Speaker 4I could with my dad . I couldn't just Just keep going on with life as normal and And sort of like the with the first film , where Kelly and my marriage really needed a reset . I need a space or a reset in my own life to create the , the time and place to reflect on my dad and remember you know who he was and what he meant to me , and and , and so this film really is an expression of my relationship with my dad , my , you know , my final thoughts before is passing , my journey after is passing and I never wanted to set it up . as you know , this is a how to grieve film or any sort of , you know , psychological perspective on what grief is , but rather just this is my journey with it And I know very little about it and I'm going to enter into it and try to invite the viewer into my process .
Speaker 3And I think you really accomplished that . Couple things stood out toward toward that idea that you weren't trying to teach people about grief . First of all , there was such an unabashedness about it . It was , it was appropriate .
Speaker 3But but there was this sense of I'm just gonna turn on the cameras and be real and naked , and there were just some moments again that were that were emotionally pretty intense , and I think that We , we are so afraid of death and we're in such denial of death and it's something that none of us both for our own lives , but for the people that we love and care about we don't want to Acknowledge it and you kind of dove in and said , okay , this is , this is going to happen . And I'm sure that at some level there were shocker denial about that , because that's normal . But the the , the scene where you and your dad are talking and You don't realize , kind of until the scene shifts to something else , but you're saying I love you dad and he says back I love you too . And then you say I'm gonna miss you dad and he says I'm gonna miss you too . Yeah , and I think that when we know that someone's gonna die If they're in the hospital or hospice , it's like we we save those most meaningful words for the very , very , very last moment .
Speaker 3Right , yeah , and and that it's . It's not safe to be that unabashed and that Unashamed in your desire and your longing and what you want to expect and what you want to hear and say . But boom , there you were and you were recording it , you know . So it was just so , so raw . And then the word intentionality stands out , that there was a sense where you weren't gonna be denied to honor your dad and To Step into your own grief , when you knew that that might be something that you wouldn't do or weren't inclined to do . And I , just really Knowing you as a brother in Christ and as a man , i really respected both that unabashedness and the intentionality To say I am going to step into this .
Speaker 4Yes , yeah , thank you . I , on the intentionality piece , I would say that's . That's about . All I had was the intention to try to grieve whatever that looked like and You know , and then to to document it , because I'd never really done it before . It was really what I think was one of the most . The sweetest parts about the journey Of making this film and grieving was the conversations I had with other men along the way that we , that we included in the film and some that Didn't make it , you know , onto a camera but I set out to You know , interview Friends and other men that we met along the way In include their grief stories . But it was those conversations that I was actually working through my own grief with other people who've , who are in there in their grief as well , and that was incredibly healing and Just created the space to be open and , like you said , unabashed with those emotions .
Speaker 3Well , i I Thought you did a tremendous job in honoring your dad and There's a sense where I Know for me is I think about my life . It's like I have to accomplish this big thing or do something amazing or , you know , in the case of what I do , have a bigger Ministry or write a book that's better selling and And what . What you did was your dad had a PhD and he invented some cool stuff and had a company , but but what you did was you document and told the story and highlighted the accumulation of the everyday things .
Speaker 3He took us Raffting and then he went and he took all the remaining money and bought a raft , and that a life is really honorable in the aggregate and not in any one thing that we do , and and Thus the fact that it's a journey right , it's about what the journey becomes , not just where it leads to .
Speaker 3Yeah , other being that just It literally took my breath away and I literally had to back it up and I watched it a couple times is
after that conversation with your dad . There is a , an aerial shot where your dad is laying in the grass like Christ on a cross with his arms out at his side , and the viewer knows that he's gonna be gone and that you have lost him , getting emotional as I as I talk about this , and it shows him up close and then the aerial just zooms out as if he's fading away and I thought artistically that was really beautiful , but also because you were the guy behind the camera Oh , my gosh , you know I felt . I felt like I was walking out of a hospice room , you know , with a loved one , that I was saying goodbye to them for the last time . What was it like to film that ? but also to have to Doubtlessly watch that over and over again to edit it . And to that was your dad .
Speaker 4Well , first , to watch it over and over again was nothing but healing and and tear producing , and even now I can feel it viscerally in my body , the emotion of that scene . As an artist , the satisfaction in having put that scene together , is Incredible , and when I watch it I'm I Have deep emotion at the very thing I produced , which means it's super powerful to have filmed it . It's almost like my dad and I teamed up on one last big Project , big job for the world , to create this scene , and he had no idea that it was going into a film , and neither did I . I simply was just trying to get some B-roll of him after our interview so that I could put some things together and somewhere at some point in there I did have the idea to have him lay down and just film the camera going up and down , but I think the one that's .
Speaker 4One thing I love about art is that oftentimes I don't know where the shot's gonna go until I'm putting it together , and so I can't really claim credit for like having planned that scene or anything but the way that it looked it's . I think there's many metaphors that could be drawn from that , whether it's his spirit floating away into the afterlife , or just the viewpoint of the creator , how small we are and yet he loves us , and also just how fragile our life is and how , at any moment , it can , can wisp away . Yeah , thank you for all of the thoughts .
Speaker 3That's beautiful And one of the things I really appreciate about you is you're really good with the tech side of art and the way that you're working with the creative side , and you're good with the tech side of things and you're a good storyteller .
Speaker 3But I've always thought that your cinematography and your artistry is really extraordinary , and I just hope that you get more and more opportunities to create , because that creating is part of the journey as well , that you brought something into the world , just like you've brought your children into the world . You bring something into the world when you create that remains , and if one person watches that and as I saw that image and as I was moved by that that then adds to me and Kelly what you're doing . As you're investing hours , days , weeks and months over the summer working with folks in these wilderness experiences where they're vulnerable , you're creating something and something is being built in , and so I like to have conversations that go all over the map but that I know you guys are passionate about restoration and that you want your lives to be helping people become whole and to know Jesus and his heart , which makes us whole . But I think you guys are doing that in really incredible ways together , as a family and in your respective callings and just being who you are .
Speaker 1Thanks , Michael .
Speaker 3Thank you .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's sweet and it's been really really special to invite our kids into that as well already , and how even Dakota , at age eight , and his ability at age four , are stepping into that journey of being a blessing to others and inspiring others , and it is truly a gift and honor .
Speaker 3Well , i know you guys have a meeting with Steven Spielberg in about five minutes , so I'm or was it Martin Scorsese ? I'm sorry , i always keep the tune . I'm confused . Who's the one with the eyebrows ? The cat or son's forehead ? That's Martin . Okay , it's really a joy to talk with you and I wanna tell as many people as possible about the movie . I know that the first movie's been out a couple of years , but people are still hearing about it , as well as Far Green Country 2 . So thank you for taking the time to share with me about the movies , about your journey and about your heart .
Speaker 4Thanks , Michael .
Speaker 1So fun to connect with you again , michael , and yeah , folks can find basically find us at Amazon Prime . If you have Prime , the films are free to watch And then we do have Instagram and Facebook So you can follow us there . Yeah , we'd love to connect with folks , so we really appreciate you taking the time to hang out with us too .
Speaker 3You bet , i appreciate you guys .
Speaker 4For any of your listeners who do engage with the film , we're happy to you know , converse and just reach out to us , you know , over social Kelly gets that or over email . And I have one thought that I wanted to share . I read a book years back by Donald Miller called A Million Miles in a Thousand Years , and it describes his own journey meeting with filmmakers who wanted to make a film about his life . And he is looking at his own life through the eyes of a filmmaker or a storyteller and saying what is it about my life that's actually noteworthy or , you know , interesting enough really to be in a movie ? And in some ways I feel like that has provided inspiration for me , especially in the kind of crazy moments of what we're doing and trying to live on the road and make movies about it and stuff .
Speaker 4But we are literally making movies about our lives And it really makes me and us be honest about what is our story , what are we living for , what do we want people to see when they look in literally on our life ? And I think that there's a lot of inspiration in that , whether there's someone who is out there hearing this ,
that their life is gonna be told someday , or shown or not , we all have that opportunity to ask ourselves what do I want my life to be ? What is the story I want told about me ? Because I told a story about my dad . At the end of our lives , there will be a story told about us in one way or another , and what do we want that story to be ?
Speaker 3And we don't have to be a famous author like Donald Miller or Steven Spielberg or an Olympic gold medalist . We can just be us with our quote ordinary life . And in really awakening to that and being present to that , our life can become epic . And there is no such thing as an ordinary life .
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