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Episode 402: SOUL CARE SUMMER - Aundi Kolber, "Try Softer, Part 2"

Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick

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0:00
Welcome back to the conversation
1:38
How long does becoming take?
4:14
Why being loved is what lets us change
6:57
When change is asked without safety
8:23
Why knowledge alone can't heal
11:39
Staying present and the window of tolerance
17:33
Seen, soothed, safe, and secure
18:50
How suppressed feelings become trauma
20:16
Addiction and the nervous system
22:47
What happens after the trauma matters most
25:14
Peter Levine and the power of attunement
27:18
Not a dualism: body, soul, and Jesus
28:59
From shame to coming home
30:07
Closing reflections
Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick
Episode 402: SOUL CARE SUMMER - Aundi Kolber, "Try Softer, Part 2"
Jun 08, 2026 Season 17 Episode 402
Michael John Cusick

We can know we are loved and still not be able to let it in. The gap between believing something and feeling it in the body is not a faith problem — it's a physiological one.

In this second conversation with Aundi Kolber, Michael and Julianne press deeper into what it actually takes to change: why being loved is not just a comfort but a biological prerequisite for growth, why asking someone to change before they feel safe is, in Aundi's word, cruel, and what it means to come home to yourself rather than keep fleeing from what hurts. Aundi also draws a line between the shame that keeps us stuck and the compassion that actually moves us — and why God is calling us home, not calling us out.

This is a rebroadcast of one of the most-listened-to conversations in the show's ten-year history.

Aundi Kolber is a licensed therapist and author of Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us Out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival and Into a Life of Connection and Joy.

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