The Self Care Life with Sara Miller

Dressing Yourself as an Act of Self Care with Jammie Baker, creator of the Momiform™

February 15, 2022 Sara Miller
The Self Care Life with Sara Miller
Dressing Yourself as an Act of Self Care with Jammie Baker, creator of the Momiform™
Show Notes Transcript

This conversation is *chef's kiss*. So GOOD. Hear from creator of the Momiform™, Jammie Baker about getting dressed to care for yourself and feel your best.

Jammie also provided an awesome discount for $10 off your first month of the  Momiform™ Style Society Membership. Just use the code SELFCARE10 to sign up for the Momiform™ Style Society!

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Sara Miller:

With a thousand things on our to do list, a lot of us are doing life on constant autopilot forgetting to care for ourselves feeling overwhelmed and frustrated with the way things are. I strive to help you, the everyday woman to stop and to embrace the power of effective self care, in order to reduce overwhelm and anxiety and find fulfillment in your everyday life. I'm Sara Miller, and I'm here to help you stop going through the motions and start being the happiest and healthiest version of you all by caring for yourself, like someone worth caring for. Join me for conversations about self care, wellness, mindfulness, and so much more that will help you find your own self care lifestyle. I'm Sara, and you're listening to The Self Care Lifestyle Podcast. Welcome, everyone to another episode of The Self Care Lifestyle Podcast. I'm so glad to be here with a special guest today, Jammie Baker, who is a personal stylist and style coach. Jammie, do you want to take a second to introduce yourself?

Jammie Baker:

Yeah. Hi, Sara, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here and chat with you and your audience. I have been a personal stylist for over a decade now, which is kind of crazy. I started in Hollywood. And then when I realized that was fun, but not really going to give me the lifestyle I'm looking for. I moved into the personal styling space and realized that was my jam, and then had my first child and realize, whoa, this is hard. I'm, I'm a professional stylists, and I'm having a hard time getting dressed, how are everyday moms navigating this, and what are they wearing? And I quickly found out, they weren't navigating it well, if at all. And I wanted to take on myself and my journey as a project and then create it into a method that all moms can use to live their life and style.

Sara Miller:

I love that I so I personally, I have an 18 month old who was born at the peak of the pandemic in June 2020.

Jammie Baker:

Oh, wow.

Sara Miller:

So I can definitely relate to the struggle because we were not going anywhere. So it was like, why would why bother getting dressed. And it's such a mindset thing of dressing yourself. So I would love to hear more about your experience as a new mom, especially in that struggle of how to dress your body. How that left you feeling when you felt like you couldn't dress your body? All that?

Jammie Baker:

Yeah, it was really frustrating. I had never in my life worn highrise jeans, I had a C section and had to go to California to meet family and have bring my baby to meet friends and family. And I was like, I can't just wear leggings. And like a T shirt. This is not working. It's not going to work at all. And so I went to the mall. And I was like, Okay, I'm going to find some jeans that work. And I'm trying on the regular chain. So I'm like, nobody told me that my stomach would like, hang over my pants now like what is happening here. And I've never had that my stomach had never been like my point of frustration. It always been my hips was like, Okay, this is great. So I added to another things. And I have two things to look out for when I get dressed. And I stumbled upon a pair of jeans that were high rise. And I was like, wow, this is game changing. And from then on, I really just realized that it was finding clothes that work for you, not you trying to work for the clothes, or me personally in my journey. I had to stop trying to make my body fit the clothes and realize I need the clothes to fit my body. And in order to do that I needed to realize what were my pain points. What was what was the frustration. So like my stomach, I needed higher res underwear and higher rise pants. And then it's incredible what happens when clothes actually fit you. And you stop beating yourself up and you stop thinking about how uncomfortable you are. You are just able to put on the clothing and go about your day.

Sara Miller:

Yeah, I love that. Would you say what would your advice be to someone who's looking to start figuring that out? How would you suggest getting started in finding clothes that work for your body versus the other way around?

Jammie Baker:

I would say it starts with a ruthless edit of your closet what isn't working for you right now. Get it out. I'm not talking go to the Goodwill or sell it or burn it all down. Like I know all of us probably want to at some point postpartum like just get rid of it all. But get out of your closet. Anything that's not working has to be out of sight because what happens when you look at those garments that aren't serving you, you start to go to dark places in your mind. And when we go to dark places in our mind every day before we even get dressed, that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of darkness. That's a lot of negative self talk. And that is not setting you up for a prosperous day of motherhood and getting you in a healthy mental space. So I think it is a huge act of self care to edit your closet, and then make a list of what you need. Okay, so I love to wear what do you love to wear? I love to wear jeans and a T shirt. Well, I have three T shirts left that fit me, my layers are fine, because those usually last their size changes, which is great. But none of my pants fit me. Okay, well, how what am I doing with my life? Am I just staying home? And playing with the baby and going to playgrounds? Or am I going to work? Like, what does your life look like? And what kind of pants do I need for that? Do I need three pairs of jeans? Do I need slacks and a skirt and a pair of jeans and then go buy those items that you love to wear? Buy them in the right size? Don't worry about the size, just buy the garment that fits you? Well. Yeah,

Sara Miller:

um, I really love that that size piece too. I know that I personally went through some weight gain around my early 20s. Just I mean, I say that I'm 24 now but it my very, very early 20s, I went through some significant weight gain due to some medications and stuff. And I still struggle with that mindset about the size and about dressing my body now and not my body from when I was, you know, 18-19 years old. And even more so after becoming a mom. And having a whole other body shift, you know, things things are not the same. They're not. So I would love to kind of hear about your experience. And I know you've done some coaching as well. With helping shift that self talk for somebody who is struggling with where they're at in their physical body who's struggling with their weight, if they don't feel good, and the body they're in.

Jammie Baker:

I think the first thing we need to do is be really honest with ourselves, take some time to sit down. And if you have to journal it out, or dance it out, whatever you have to do to work out, where are you? And be really honest, Are you actively losing weight? Is this going to be your new size for a while? Are you super newly postpartum and you think, okay, I'll be the size for about six months, and then we'll start coming off then I can commit to, you know, working out again, if that's what you want to do, just be really honest, because if you're not honest with yourself, you're never going to fix this you need to be able to look at it objectively, this is a problem, I need to solve it. So take out the emotion, take out all of the negative self talk, take out all of the beating up you do to your body and what it should be, leave that on the table and then look at the problem as something you need to solve. So moving forward, you need to buy let's say in my circumstance that I had to buy pants that were three sizes bigger than when I before I was pregnant. And I had a really hard time thinking he want me to spend money on a pair of pants that I don't want to be in I don't want to be three sizes bigger, but then I realized it's not my style and my my worth has nothing to do with that tag. But my worth has a lot to do with my mental health and how I go about my day and how I am proactive versus reactive to my family and how I feel in my own skin. So you have to weigh the benefits right and then the cons so what what do I get out of this a buying three sizes bigger I get pants that fit I get confidence I get an easy time to get dressed in the morning what do I get if I buy the pants that are too small because I'm going to beat myself up that one day I'm going to be in these this size pants because I should you get however many months however many days that is every single day waking up thinking I should fit in those pants I'm not good enough and then you're uncomfortable and you're spilling out of them so you have to weigh weigh the cost what is it which one is better for you? Which one is more valuable? Probably buying a pants that fit and solving the problem objectively versus putting emotion and worth into into a size.

Sara Miller:

I love that and I love the aspect of mindset and you know that waking up and finding clothes in your closet that don't fit It's so frustrating and it's overwhelming and it's I know for me has been anxiety producing especially when I'm let's say I'm getting ready to go somewhere to go see people that's something that was not as common for me thanks to thanks to covid. That first year postpartum, and it was just like, I don't know how to dress my body anymore. And I hadn't done that key step of like, okay, things have changed. How do I dress my body now? What do I need to get rid of? So I love that. So, with your method, one of the things that you've kind of originated is the Momiform method. So let's talk about that. How do you make getting dressed? Something that is simple, because I know, I personally, you know, I grew up with all brothers, my mom grew up with all brothers, she's kind of a tomboy. So style wise, a lot of what I learned about was through whatever I saw online and through magazines, and through people that didn't necessarily look like me and my body shape. So how do you make style, simple and getting dressed really simple and accessible in everyday life?

Jammie Baker:

That is so hard, I think you hit the nail on the head with I saw a bunch of people that didn't look like me. And so what we end up doing is we try to dress like them. And then we get frustrated. And we bring blame ourselves. And we wonder, well, if it looks good on her, why doesn't look good on me, I must not be good enough, I must not be the right size, I must not be the right, fill in the blank, right. And so what my method does is decrease the noise. There's so much noise out there of the world and influencers and magazines and TV shows, telling you what you should be what you should wear, what you should look like. And I want to let you know that it's okay to let go of all of that. We don't need the latest trends. And we don't need to look a certain way to be able to have style, weight, body shape, none of that equals style, we can take who we are today and get dressed well. And to be able to do that you have to start with being honest with yourself and being able to learn to be okay with you know what, that looks really great on her. But that's not gonna work for me, I can appreciate that she looks beautiful, and that. I like the aesthetic. It's aesthetically pleasing, but I don't like to actually wear it. And I'm okay with that. Instead of always forcing something that should, quote unquote, be nothing should be you shouldn't have to feel like you need to be up to date and latest greatest trends or a certain size to feel beautiful and stylish. So in my method, you come to terms with where you are honestly, in your journey, you take a look at what is your personal style, what do you find aesthetically pleasing to look at versus what you actually love to wear? What do you feel good in. For instance, I love a good free people browsing section, I like to look through the store or the catalog and those big flowy dresses. I look like I'm wearing a big prairie dress paper bag. And I feel like super frumpy in that like it does not feel good on me. Because I have a lot of curves. So it just hangs from my chest. And it just, it does not look good on me. So I've come to terms with the fact that you it's really beautiful garment. And it looks really great on the girls who are six foot tall and straight up and down. I am not that girl. And that's okay. So coming to terms with Oh, I like to wear leather jackets and black booties and all black most of the time. That's what I like to wear. And to be okay with that. And then to determine what is the actual body shape. Because when you figure out what your shape is, and shape has nothing to do with weight, so you could be a size two in size 22 with the same shape. Dressing, your body is all about geometry, it's creating a silhouette like an extra an hourglass, using clothing and creating that visual proportion. It has nothing to do with our weight. So knowing what your shape is, empowers you to dress it as well as you possibly could to be as visually appealing. It's not necessarily to be the most slimming. I don't want to get to trip people up with that thinking, Oh, how can I dress to look the smallest? That's not? That's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to be the most visual, visually appealing with proportion. So learning your body shape is the next step in my method and then you want to look at your lifestyle. How many people that I'm going to bet that everyone listening to this, including you Sara has been in this predicament where you open your closet, and it's full of clothes. But you have nothing to wear right? Have you been?

Sara Miller:

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Jammie Baker:

We have clothes. We don't literally have nothing to wear. But why do we feel like we have nothing to wear? Because the clothing in that closet is probably not our personal style. It probably doesn't fit us today. It might not be the best for our sheep and it might be Not chances are like 99% of time. The biggest problem is it doesn't match our lifestyle. We've had children, our schedules have changed, our life has changed our bodies change. Can you wear the pencil skirt and the high heels and the blazer to the playground? Probably not. So being able to curate a wardrobe, a mama form that matches your lifestyle is really key to having a closet full of clothes that you can actually wear and love to wear. Yeah,

Sara Miller:

I love that. And I really love your note about not focusing on flipping, but focusing on proportion. I think that that is a trap that so many of us get caught in when we're thinking about what's flattering. We're thinking about what slimming instead of what, what looks good proportionally, which is so you know, so funny. I have an art school background. So like proportion is not unfamiliar to me and understanding how things interact. But I've never thought to apply that to my physical body without thinking about it in a slimming way. You know, like we always talk about dressing for your body shape, but I feel like it's always been something where you want to make your waist look tiny. And it's like, not about okay, well, we're making your waist look small, but we're making it look like proportional. Are you having you? Yeah, that's fascinating. Um,

Jammie Baker:

yeah, it's a lot different of a mindset to approach it versus like, How can I look? The skinniest we need to take that out of our minds like, a there's nothing wrong with being skinny. But that is not the goal with style style is for everybody.

Sara Miller:

I love that. So could you speak a little bit more on the like, real tactical piece of the mama form method? Like how does that work? What is it? Do you have any, like basic mama form? Not templates. But combinations. I guess, the I think work really well for most people.

Jammie Baker:

I think that one thing we can start with, that everyone can start with because I know we all have been there or we feel like I have a closet. And I'm nothing to wear. But you do. There are some things in there that you can actually wear. But we get so stuck in this shirt goes with these pants and the shoes. And that's it right? So I want you to think of the formula, the outfit formula, pared down to its very basic form his basic top, basic bottom, or one piece like a dress, a romper, a jumpsuit, whatever fits you best, whatever you like to wear, and a layer and shoes. So what you can do in your closet is take your favorite bottoms, and then try on all of your tops. What tops you like to pair those bottoms? I bet you found way more combinations than you thought you had in there when you think oh, this shirt goes with these pants. And then try all of your layers with it. Okay, how many ways can I wear this top this bottom and then swap out the layer? And then what shoes? Can I dress it down with a denim jacket and some sneakers? Or can I dress it up with some wedges and a utility jacket or can I dress it up with a leather jacket in some booties or however you want to look at it dressing it up dressing it down what fits your lifestyle what fits your style type, have fun shopping your own closets first so you can really get a feel for what combinations you like. And then I would say my number one style tip for everyone is accentuate your waist is going to meet be the most visually appealing. And we don't want the mindset to be looking you're Islamist but we also are never trying to make ourselves look bigger, right? That is not the goal. So when you bring when you cover when you dress to hide, you actually are making yourself look from here and bigger than you actually are. So if you accentuate your waste by doing a half talk or a full talk or belting or wearing some sort of layer that comes in at the waist, you are accentuating your waist and you're going to look slimmer it's just part of what it's going to be it's not the goal necessarily but part of what happens is you do look slimmer when you bring in the waist versus when you hide under a big frumpy tent of clothing. Yeah, so switching our mindset

Sara Miller:

able to highlight that shape instead of hiding

Jammie Baker:

hiding it. Yes, hiding is never good.

Sara Miller:

Yeah. Cool. Um, so I know you were talking a lot about basics with basic top basic bottoms. Do you have any go to stores for basics? Let us sit on your secrets. Yeah, I

Jammie Baker:

love the supply for basic T shirts. I love good American maidwell and Abercrombie for jeans. I love halogen at Nordstrom has a brand for great basic T shirts, specifically, their long sleeve T shirts are ones that I like. You can find a lot of great T shirts and like add maidwell as well there wisper T is great. So, yeah there. There are a lot of stores with different price points that have great options for basics. And if you fill your closet with the basics first, you're going to have more outfits more outfits. More basics, equal more outfits, if you have a bunch of statement pieces, you can't make very many outfits with it. But if you have basics, you can add a statement and a layer or accessories or shoes and have many more options. Especially if you're in a postpartum transition phase where you're not going to stay that size for long. Say you have a year, a year is a long time not to get dressed and love your outfit and feel confident right, it's going to have a big effect on your your mental health if you don't get dressed for a year. So having clothing basics, but dressing it up with things like shoes and accessories and layers that are going to take you through it a lot of different sizes. They don't you know, shoes are always going to fit us. So really focusing on personality in your style with those pieces versus the T shirts and the pants and the skirts and those things.

Sara Miller:

I love that because I find often if I invest in like a T shirt, or pants that are a little more have a little more style to them that are a little interesting. They usually are something that's a little bit trendy, and they go out of style within a year. And then I can't wear them anymore. Yeah. Or I feel like I can't hear.

Jammie Baker:

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, feeling like we can't is, is definitely you don't want the pieces, the interesting pieces to be your focus. Having one or two is great, but not making a wardrobe out of those. That's how another way that we end up with a closet full of nothing to wear.

Sara Miller:

Yeah, I feel like a lot of what you teach could be applied really well in a capsule wardrobe. So I would love to hear about how you do you ever teach about capsule wardrobes Is that something that you feel like is really effective with this method. I would love to hear about that.

Jammie Baker:

So I don't love the term capsule because it puts so many rules on getting dressed infections should be fun. If we take all the fun out of fashion, that just defeats the purpose of getting dressed. I feel like if someone tells me you have to wear this and you can only wear four shirts and you cannot shop, I'm not going to want to do it. I like to rebel naturally. So I came up with the mama formance, which is a capsule ish wardrobe. And I do have a program where I create a 30 piece mama form every season. And I put that into 34 outfit formulas there are way more you could do. But we do a style challenge where you take these these formulas with these 30 pieces and I help these women along the way to make each piece their own, they can take it and literally create that scene, Mama form that capitalist wardrobe. But most of them take it and make it personal which is my favorite part of working with women is watching them see a basic and be able to go you know what I don't like black crewneck T shirts, I like Navy V neck T shirts, and they know how to make style their own and create a model that works for them that is so unique to their shape and their lifestyle and their budget. And then what makes them feel good. So I like a capsule ish wardrobe every season.

Sara Miller:

I like that i i am very much somebody who gravitates towards basics and having like a few things that I love versus a million things. I mean, I'm sitting here recording in my closet, looking at all the things that I could get rid of and probably get rid of, but I find myself gravitating towards those things that I know work for me that I know that I truly like in my style, which for me is a lot of black tops. I just really prefer black. I like the contrast I don't know really pale. So cool. Um, I really like that. So I guess let's backpedal a little. Let's talk about how dressing your body and the mindset around dressing your body as an act of self care. I know that you went through this journey of realizing as a mom, okay, it's different. My body is different. I'm dressing myself differently and trying to shift your closet so that you weren't waking up thinking about how all the things didn't fit, you are waking up to a closet that you actually liked. But I would love to hear more about that self talk and also more about the like, shift that you experienced when you started dressing up dressing yourself every day, dressing yourself to feel good?

Jammie Baker:

Yeah, absolutely. All of the work that I do, whether it is in a course or with a client, one on one or in a group, it all starts with their mindset because we cannot pour from an empty cup. And we as moms have so much on our plate. And we have so many titles, right, so many hats that we wear. And we are expected to just not take care of ourselves because everybody else needs us. But I, I want to shake up the hot mess mom culture, and I want to take ourselves back and not that we are more of a priority than everyone else in our family. But that we are all equals right? We would never send our kids out to school in their pajamas with crazy hair and food all over their shirt and slippers right? We just wouldn't do that. Yeah, the other day, my son, he was he he came out of his room, he always comes out his pajamas. And every time I would get him dressed, he's like, Why do I have to get dressed today, but we're not even going anywhere during the Christmas break. And every day, I'd say because we need to get ready for the day. Well, apparently, one day, within the last couple of weeks, it just clicked with him. And the other day, he comes out of his room and he said I'm ready for the day. And he's done over the last few days started dressing himself. It really matters what we say to ourselves, and then that projects onto our children as well. And the people in our lives, they pay attention. So not only is it self care for us, but it's self care for our family and teaching other generations how to care for themselves that they're important enough to get ready for the day that what we have ahead of us is important. I don't care if it is playing on the floor with your nine month old baby, or taking your toddler to the playground or dropping your kids off at school before you go to the boardroom. Whatever your day looks like it's important. And there's something that we can do for our mental health every single day. That is that can be simple, and we are worth it. And that's getting dressed, we have the ability to prime our emotions, we, when we look down and we have on frumpy sweat pants and a spit up t shirt and I get it it happens. I'm not saying those days, it happens. But if we look down all day, and our hair is greasy, and we don't put any makeup on now that you have to have makeup to be beautiful. I just know for myself, I feel a lot better if I put on some mascara. And we have on frumpy dirty clothes, we're never going to feel good about ourselves, we're going to hide from ourselves in the mirror. We're going to hide from people when the doorbell rings, we're never going to be able to go on spontaneous lunch dates or coffee dates. Or what if you have to go into the school with your preschooler and they need you to like go inside and sign and sign a paper or something and you're in your sweatpants, it just makes such a difference in how do we act towards ourselves from looking in the mirror to standing straight into being proactive instead of reactive in our day to how we are creating what other people think of us, right? If you see someone in the grocery store, and they are just a hot mess, you're not going to be like, Oh yeah, I would totally hire her to do something I totally want to bring, you know, go to her house for dinner, she looks like she's gonna make a great meal. Nothing we want to judge on outward appearance. But we as humans are visual creatures. And if you're in business, you can use your appearance to prime other people's emotions about you. So you're starting your day with creating confidence for yourself. And then you're priming the emotions of others, you get to control what others think of you with a first impression, we have five seconds to make a first impression two seconds online, if you are selling an online business, so if you want someone to trust what you're saying, you're gonna want to look the parts, right. And if someone if you have a business and someone's buying from you, or you are, you know, hosting something and you want people come and they actually follow through, you're going to feel more confident. It's just a domino effect from yourself, to your family, to your friends to your business. Everything and everyone that you interact with is going to be different when you take care of putting yourself together versus putting yourself last and just walking around a hot mess and and falling for that lie of we're moms so we just have to be hominess

Sara Miller:

Yeah. Oh my gosh, that is so powerful. And I love your point about how it trickles down to our families. I say all the time that self care is selfish in the best way. It is something that it allows you to take care of yourself so that you can show up for yourself but also for your family. And it shows them that you are worth caring for and that they as individuals are worth caring for. So I love that, that connection there with, with getting dressed as an act of self care. So I have two more questions for you. First, what is your, like, top form of self care, maybe something that people wouldn't think of traditionally as self care, that you just love to practice, counseling, counseling,

Jammie Baker:

100% therapy, I think that, that going to therapy is definitely a form of self care, I have three, three non negotiables, outside of getting dressed, obviously getting dressed for me is going to be it's just a habit, not something I do. It's what I teach is to make getting dressed a simple habit. So you're not thinking about it, we're not wasting brainpower on it, get dressed and live your life. But there are three other non negotiables of self care that I do, either weekly or monthly. And that's counseling, chiropractic care, and massage, those are the three things that I feel like I need to be the best version of myself so that I can show up and feel my best when I do get dressed. And when I do show up in the world, whether it's playing with my baby on the floor, or telling the world via video about my business,

Sara Miller:

I love that I think therapy is absolutely a form of self care. It's one of those Self Care Acts that can be really challenging, sometimes, but it's one of those things that in the long run benefits you so much. And I think that's where people forget that self care is about taking care of yourself. That's what it is ultimately, so it's not always bubble baths and face masks. But it's also not always the other extreme of like meditation, blah, blah, blah, right? Therapy and things like that fall into that bucket too, because they set you up to feel your best and because they support you in reaching your goals.

Jammie Baker:

I wouldn't be where I am without those things. And meanwhile, like my bubble baths, and my facemask, too, though.

Sara Miller:

Yeah, I mean, I think there's absolutely a spectrum. And it's important to recognize that a variety of self care is, is critical to your success in feeling like your best self, it's, it's good to take part in those really like, I don't want to say froofy things because I think bubble baths and face masks can absolutely be really powerful, especially when you're using them to like unplug from technology, you know, leaving your phone in the other room, turning down the lights, and just really like reducing all that stimulation. Oh, yeah. But from that to the, you know, diving deep into emotional stuff with therapy with, with meditation with whatever else. There's a vast variety to dive into. So absolutely. Awesome. Well, Jamie, where can we find you? I'm sure that many of my audience members will want to learn so much more about your methods and learn your infamous bra. Bra hack. They need to go check out your your Instagram for that. But where else can they find you? Yeah,

Jammie Baker:

you can find everything from Instagram I have not been on in a month at this point. So you will see a lack in in the timeline there because I took some time some self care to just soak in family time. But usually I am most active on Instagram and that links to everything. I do TV segments, I have Pinterest, I have a Facebook group. I have blog posts that I post on all of these different topics and different videos and things. So you can find everything linked from my Instagram and it's at Jamie Baker underscore.

Sara Miller:

Awesome. Would you like to touch on your course or your membership at all?

Jammie Baker:

Yeah, absolutely. So I do teach. I teach women all over the world how to take this method and make it work for them. In my course the mom of four method, which you can find links from my Instagram as well or on my website, Jamie Baker COMM And then I also have a membership called the mama from style society. And that is every season. We have a style guide with that capsule ish wardrobe that model form for everyone. We do a style challenge so that we show up and we're accountable. We have community and I do weekly style classes in their weekly q&a So you get one on one time with me. And just some really amazing women with all different backgrounds from all over the world. It's so much fun to meet them and see how they interpret outfits and see how they use getting dressed as a form of self care from online Gosh, my husband complimented my outfit and we had the best date night. To me that's a form of self care, right? Like being able to enjoy your partner and have a great time versus hiding in an outfit. So watching these women just blossom and flourish and community with accountability is probably my favorite part of what I do.

Sara Miller:

I love that so much. All right. Well, thank you so much for joining me today. You have so much good wisdom and insight to share and it was so much fun.

Jammie Baker:

Thank you so much for having me. I was so excited to have this conversation. I love that your topic of self care and your your podcasts is great.

Sara Miller:

Thank you so much for joining me today. Before you go be sure to grab my free Own Your Self Care Starter Kit by visiting theselfcare.life/own-your-self-care/. This kit is specially designed to help you identify what kind of self care will work best for you. That way you can start developing your own self care lifestyle. If you'd like to stay connected find me on Instagram at @sarastrives or on TikTok at@TheSelfCareLifestyle. Thank you so much for listening and I will talk to you again, soon.