It's always so enlightening anytime Dale has the opportunity to catch up with Karl Vaters. Today's podcast is filled with so much wisdom as Karl shares his insights and wisdom. Karl gives valuable guidance to any leader who finds themselves in the midst of not really knowing which way to go next.

Karl Vaters has an international impact in the small church space through his books, conferences, podcasts and teaching materials.  His passion for the small church as well as the small church leader is contagious.Pull up a chair and prepare to learn as you check out today's 95Podcast with Karl Vaters.

Show Notes: https://www.95network.org/you-cant-go-forward-while-looking-backward-w-karl-vaters-episode-169/

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