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You're"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1884.46,"endTime":1887.967,"body":"also welcome to get in touch"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1888.026,"endTime":1891.414,"body":"with me through the website."},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1888.026,"endTime":1891.414,"body":"There's a voicemail function"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1891.473,"endTime":1895.039,"body":"there and you're welcome to"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1891.473,"endTime":1895.039,"body":"leave a question or two. You can"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1895.099,"endTime":1898.724,"body":"also just email me if you use"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1895.099,"endTime":1898.724,"body":"the voicemail function. I might"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1898.783,"endTime":1902.468,"body":"even put it on the podcast. I"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1898.783,"endTime":1902.468,"body":"also want to thank jorge Sanchez"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1902.527,"endTime":1906.272,"body":"for helping support the podcast"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1902.527,"endTime":1906.272,"body":"on Patreon along with my cousin"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1906.331,"endTime":1909.897,"body":"Kevin Hanson. Thanks guys. So"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1906.331,"endTime":1909.897,"body":"until next week, let's be good"},{"speaker":"Kenny Embry","startTime":1909.956,"endTime":1910.67,"body":"and do good."}]}