THE TV CARPENTER : Home Makeovers with Wayne Perrey

Wayne chats with Japanese Knotweed specialist Steve

September 20, 2019 Wayne Season 1 Episode 6
THE TV CARPENTER : Home Makeovers with Wayne Perrey
Wayne chats with Japanese Knotweed specialist Steve
Show Notes Transcript

This week I discuss working with Ju and Cassie as we made over a restaurant in week 6 of Interior Design Masters on BBC/Netflix.

I explain the joy of meeting Kirsty Allsopp at her Handmade Festival, plus I Interview Steve about removing Japanese Knotweed from your garden,

And I'm joined by my DIY Doers business partner Steph as we share the top tips of how to remove tricky screws from a wall and how our DIY Doers Facebook group can really empower you to feel good about yourself.

Guest details:  www.japaneseknotweed.london  

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Contact me: Wayne Perrey on Twitter and Instagram.

Music: "What's the Angle" by Shane Ivers

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

On today's show I'll be talking about working with you and Cassie. On episode six of Interior Design Masters. I'll be sharing the experience of meeting Kirstie Allsopp at a handmade festival this week at Hampton court pallets. I interview Steve, a Japanese knotweed specialists as he shares the procedure of how to remove it from your garden. And I'm joined by my DIY do as business partners staff as we shared DIY tips from our Facebook group. This week was a sad week on interior design masters cause we lost the lovely Nikki Bamford bows. Now I've made no disguise about the fact that I know Nikki, Nikki, um, son is in the same class as my daughter at school. She's a really, really good friend and to see how it goes, always going to be upsetting. But it is a competition. I was working with you and Cassie is the first time I'd worked with, with Kasey and uh, they were lovely. They were really, it was really interesting. I watched the show and the[inaudible], there was never any sense of that. Um, a little bit of disagreement between them. You would never have known that they're there. They weren't 100% with certain things and they were kind of finding their feet. It came in and felt like they worked really, really well together. What was really interesting is the whole mosaic idea originally that was going to take five minutes and it was going to go all the way, you know, underneath the, the archway, the size of it. They wanted to put it all on the front. It was going to go everywhere. And Cassie was like, yeah, we'll just knock it up. We'll just, you know, throw it together. But things like the mosaic take for ever to make because not only have you got to glue it, then you've got to stick it to the wall. You've got to um, fill in all the gaps. You've got to grout it all, then you've got to clean the grout off. So I think literally up until the reveal, we were still gluing grouting and on all of that. And that took a lot of conversations of me going, yeah, this is really over adventurous. We're not really going to get time to finish this. And then there's, there's a whole issue with cork that they never mentioned. They had these huge big cork tiles that were going to go originally all across the ceiling of the, of the restaurant. And because the room wasn't square the way they wanted it, it just wasn't going to work. And also these were self adhesive, big cork tiles. And my worry was that they were going to fall down cause there's no way of of pinning them without seeing the screws. So we ended up compromising and the cork actually went underneath the window. There's like a bay area underneath the window and there were there were placed there. And then I think lastly we did put a little bit underneath the arch of the mosaic tile. But interestingly they, uh, they shrunk and um, they actually all fell off. So I'm glad we didn't actually put them on the main ceiling. So you didn't see all of that. And then I made a huge glass cabinet that was above the bar area, which they wanted more than I want to put light through. And it had the wicker cane inside and then they wanted to be able to put their glasses and things like that in there. So added a, another storage element to it. It was very, um, shabby and kind of made up and there was lots of, I think frank mentioned is quite, um, DIY. He, there were lots of, of that going in there, but they have the restaurant, uh, owners absolutely loved it. Um, they were so pleased with everything that we created and actually they'd booked himself a holiday the next day, so they came, saw the reveal and then the next day they closed the shop for a week and went away on holiday. Really, really happy. It was really sad for, for frank and Nicki because they work so hard on their restaurant and it did look absolutely beautiful. It was really bang on trend and it looked like the lights were stunning and all the, the design ideas and the colors, um, were really, really lovely. But the restaurant are, wasn't that keen. She, she really didn't like, and it was quite interesting in the VT at the end they said, did you like it? And she said yes, but actually she was really, really tricky blesser and, and just wasn't comfortable with any anything. And, and a lot of the things got removed so all the fake flowers were removed and um, and a lot, a lot of detail was taken and taken away. The problem they have mainly was the seating, um, the chairs and things they had to buy. It all had to match so he couldn't be mismatch. And they were quite large. It meant realistically you couldn't, they lost covers. Um, so they weren't happy with that, but it was still a real big shock when, when Nikki went and both Nicki and frank are brilliant and no one expected them to be fair to be in the bottom two if we're being honest. And W we just to have Nicky go was really sad, especially as you saw. There's a moment where Michelle are gonna asked, can you know, can they go away? So she needs to think a little bit more. And that wasn't planned, that wasn't scripted. She, she went away and she had another think and we didn't know which way she was going to go. And there was lots of, there had to stop filming quite a lot because everyone was crying, all the, you know, both Nikki and frank were crying and, and it was, uh, it was, it was a tricky one. And, and, and like you saw the reaction as you've probably seen on social media. Frank didn't expect Nikki to go, so that was a genuine reaction from him. And bless him, he's, it makes him, you know, he's got some grit now. He's, he's got to prove his worth and prove why he's gone through. Um, but it really was a hard episode to watch into design, interior design masters. In another note, this week has been really lovely. Me and my business partner, Steph Brown from the, our idea is we were asked to present on the main stage at the handmade festival. The handmade festival is set up by Kirstie Allsopp. It's, it's an outdoor festival. So there's tents everywhere and it gorgeous sunny evenings on a Saturday. And it was, it was absolutely beautiful. There was, um, loads of different stalls, people selling their wares and people were doing, um, loads of workshops and things by me and staff decided to do a workshop on, um, DIY. So we taught them how to make a copper candelabra cause that way we could teach people how to use drills, how to use saws, how to cook copper pipe. And we had an audience, I think of about 200, 250 people with Kirsty on stage with us. And it was really nice. We were giving lots of top tips and lots of things that, um, Kersey didn't know. I then, you know, some, some of the tips that we shared. So it was lovely to be on stage. I've never met her before. Um, and it was, she was really impressed with, with our background and what we do. And uh, yeah, I think we'll be definitely working with her again at the handmade festivals. Do you ever get chance to go to Hampton Court Palace? I think they do it every year and it's on for three days per year, every summer. So if you ever get chance to go to the handmade festival, definitely recommended a huge thank you to thorn down for sponsoring this podcast. As you already know, they create amazing wood paint, which can be used for interior and exterior woods, but they also have created an amazing peelable glass paint. Now I use this with my daughter. We did some crafting with it. 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And remember to receive your 15% discount on all online purchases, just go to thorn down dot code at UK and put in the discount code TV carpenter. This week I've been busy filming with Alan Titchmarsh doing love your garden. And what was really interesting before we arrived, the garden had already been cleared because it had Japanese knot weed in there. And I was fortunate enough a couple of weeks ago to speak to Steve from Japanese knotweed.london who filled me in with all the ins and outs and do's and don'ts when working, um, in a garden that has got Japanese not weeding. And he was so kind and he shared all the information and he kind of lifted the lid on this pesky plant. Those causes

Speaker 3:

all so many problems in London especially. So Steve, I've got your details through. You're working. I'm a client of mine. I've seen some carpentry for how many, and she mentioned that she had Japanese knot weed in her garden and she'd got you guys over to come and uh, to have a look at it from Japanese, not we'd. Dot London. And I just thought it'd be great to have a chat with you and find out what it is and what treatments are available and the do's and the don'ts. Cause it's the kind of this mysterious thing that everyone talks about, but no one actually knows what to do. So, um, what is Japanese knotweed?

Speaker 4:

Well, it's uh, it's an aggressive and it's a very invasive wheat which we imported from Japan about 160 or so years ago. The Victorians brought it over, looks very important, mental and at various times of the year it looks very attractive. And of course whoever brought you over at that time, I have no idea of, of the problems that it was going to cause. Uh, one of the main problems being that it spreads very aggressively and is quite difficult to get rid of once he's actually set up home on your property.

Speaker 3:

And w obviously we know that, you know, whenever you filling out a mortgage application, there's, you know that you can't get all of these applications, you've got not weed or you can't even get insurance. I don't think so. Why do they not like it?

Speaker 4:

Well, it can do damage. It's got a much worse reputation than it probably deserves. For instance. I mean it, you know, it can damage drains, it can break through concrete. When I say that, I'll put a caveat on that, you know, a very strong concrete, it would always try and grow around or you know, there's no way to break through something and then structurally strong. But if there's a crack in that concrete will exploit the weakness and find its way through and then over a period of time it will make that gap in the concrete bigger and bigger. We've never seen it actually damaged the house to an extent. Nice calls, real structural problems. But the banks picked up on Japanese, not weed about 10 years or so ago, uh, at the time of the credit crunch. And I think they used it as a bit of an excuse to not lend on properties. Uh, and, uh, you know, the myth and the legend kind of grew from then we believe that Japanese not, we can be dealt with in the, you know, we've got hundreds of properties currently under treatment and, and uh, we have very, very good results with it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So I live in southeast London and it's, I remember a couple of years ago, people were giving away top soil. You know, I bought, I've got some soil from somebody and I transferred it into my garden. It wasn't until literally unloaded all this soil out of my van and put it into my, into my garden. I went, oh my God, what if it, what if I've just in pregnancy I've transferred? Is it everywhere? Is it, you know, or is there certain areas where there's more of it? Have you, have you seen any patterns anywhere?

Speaker 4:

Oh, there's definitely patents. Uh, you know, in the south London area there, there's various hotspots, uh, crystal palaces. One, uh, Peckham is another, uh, there's quite a lot in bullish and plum state, uh, and, and throughout London, you know, every, it's like Tottenham War from Sto Leytonstone real hotspots. Uh, but then, you know, uh, the reverse of that is there's areas where we have hardly any at all. Uh, we tend to find that the more affluent areas, you know, places like Richmond and Twickenham and areas like that tend to have much less, uh, than, than, than the areas that are really densely populated where all the gardens are backing onto each other. Uh, and that's about human interaction because it's human interaction with Japanese knotweed that causes the spread in my opinion.

Speaker 3:

Okay. What do you mean by that then?

Speaker 4:

Well, Japanese not with the sterile, uh, know it doesn't spread by seed anyway. Uh, but it does spread by movement of life material. So, you know, you were just talking about, uh, important top soil, then that's something that we see all the time. Uh, we've got one particular job happen where, uh, our client had his garden, uh, beautiful landscapes, uh, raised beds, uh, and then the landscape abroad in infected subsoil and filled with all the rains Bates with this top soil and the next year, yet not weed all over the place. Uh, and they'd never had not. We'd previously, um, sign on. My advice to anybody who's having any gardening or landscaping work done is to definitely import top soil that screened and sterilized and comes with a certificate or from, from a garden center and, and properly bagged bag and packaged.

Speaker 3:

If you discover not wheat, what does it look like? How can you, how would you reco recognize, not wait firstly?

Speaker 4:

Well, um, the one thing about Japanese, not where it is, you know, uh, left to its own devices, it gets very, very big in date. Uh, you know, and it grows at a very rapid rate. You know, at certain times of the year it's going to grow by four inches of day, uh, and it'll stop about nine feet tall. So, you know, from that point of view, you know, uh, you know, just, just, just the speed of its growth fee, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll give, we'll attract attention. Secondly, I mean the, uh, the stems of the plant, uh, you know, uh, a very unique, uh, it looks a little bit like bamboo. Uh, the stems are green with red speckles as far as I'm aware, there's not another plant that I believe looks like it leaves a very sort of broad leaves, uh, sort of heart shaped, uh, ESOP line, green color. So once you've seen Japanese not wade and you've got a picture of it in your mind, you will, you will see it almost everywhere that you,

Speaker 3:

I bet that's all you see, isn't it? Is that everywhere you go when you want to train or anywhere, that's all you seem to see.

Speaker 4:

Especially on a train. Yeah. Any train journey through London, you will see lots of Japanese in that way.

Speaker 3:

Uh Huh. So when, um, um, you know, we found, we found Japanese not weed in the garden and we call you out. So what's the process to go through now? So if I had called you out for the first time, had called you up for the first time, w w how do you approach, um, getting rid of it, but it was the steps you, you, you do.

Speaker 4:

Well, the first thing is, is we need to know what your plans are for the property, uh, know with regards to why you're planning on doing any building works for extensions or anything like that. Because if you're planning on building or extending in an area that's got Japanese not weight, then you know, if there's a different process that, that, that we would recommend, you know, that would, that would require excavation. Whereas, you know, usually on a domestic property, uh, providing them that way, there's a little distance away from the house. For instance. Uh, we would recommend that we deal with it. Hope besides leave me, you know, by chemical treatment. Uh, and that's what we would usually set up. We would, we would, uh, surveyed the property itself in looking for any signs of Japanese knot weed. Uh, and then also we would be looking into the adjoining properties or the neighbors gardens as well. Because you know, Japanese not wheat doesn't respect the garden fence is going to be on both sides of the fence. And quite often we see Japanese, not we, the spread across five, six, seven or eight gardens. So what we're looking to do is, you know, get as big a picture as we can map where to not weigh these and then come up with a management plan to deal with all of the knotweed. Cause obviously, Pun treed not weed, uh, in a neighbor's garden is just gonna cause spread back into your client's garden.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. And so you use like a herbicide, you say you spray, is that how you kill it?

Speaker 4:

Treating the Japanese, not waiting in situ if you possibly can. Uh, because digging out Japanese, not, we doesn't kill it. All you're actually doing is beginning out and transfer in live Japanese, not we to a new location, which of course is environmentally unfriendly and not to mention expensive. So we would, we would always try to treat it with chemicals on site if we possibly can.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Okay. And so would that kill any of the plants obviously that are in their area as well as you kind of like you, you blitzing that whole area then?

Speaker 4:

Well, no, it's not something that, that we've set out to do. Definitely not. We always try to be as discriminate with our treatments if we possibly can. You know, we don't want to wipe everything out. We want to treat the Japanese, not worried, you know, if Japanese not where it is growing through a hedge for instance, then one of the things that we can do is we can s I mean check the big Keynes, uh, and then that chemical is then only just going into the plant itself and, and nowhere else.

Speaker 3:

How long would that treatment take then? How long would it take for to get rid of it? Is it just a matter of one injection or, you know, series of injections?

Speaker 4:

No. Uh, generally speaking, what were our management plan will involve several treatments over three to five years depending upon the extended Japanese knotweed. Wow. Uh, and uh, uh, usually, you know, most of our clients are people that have, uh, buying or selling property. Uh, so in that case they're also going to be requiring an insurance back, GAM and c. So basically what we're doing then is we're offering a 10 year package of treatments and inspections and, and the whole thing is underwritten by insurance. Uh, and once a contract is in place, the person who's selling the house, he's able to do so.

Speaker 3:

Uh Huh. So that's good to say. In a way you let you say when you said it was a three year process, I certainly might be in my heart sank a little bit for these people who are going to be, you know, wanting to move a house. Most people decide to move the house and then the day they decide to move the house and put it in the market is the day they find they've got Japanese knotweed. So they could come to, you obviously start the process, but you don't have to wait three years to be at your house. You can get an insurance thing in place where you've got an agreement with yourself to keep eradicating it over that time. Is that right?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's right. Uh, basically we signed a contract, uh, and uh, the insurance gets issued and you can immediately sell

Speaker 3:

[inaudible] how much does something like that cost? So if you've got a, you know, you've got one plant at the bottom of the garden, you know, you need to get rid of it. Um, you know, cause you said that I've looked on your website, there's so many different options. Like there's dig and dump and site capping and they sell res, um, visit dental evacuation. They all sound quite, quite full-on. Is that, is the herbicide cidal side of things the, the more cost effective option?

Speaker 4:

Oh yes. He's certainly the, the cheapest option. Definitely 10 years of process with a guarantee, uh, generally starts at about 1500 pounds plus Vat.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So it's not as, not as bad as I thought. If you are building a property, if you're doing an extension or something like that, um, what's the involved in that process?

Speaker 4:

We can offer various things. We can offer supervision. Uh, for instance, you know, if there's a builder contracted to out the foundations for that, for the extension, perhaps we can put a supervisor on site who would, uh, oversee the biosecurity and or, um, we would also dispose of the controlled waste, the licensed landfill. Uh, so that's one option. The other option is, you know, we can send a dig in team in ourselves and we can do the whole process. Uh, and then the other thing that we offer is, uh, wheat membranes, you know, welded membranes, heat sealed and welded membranes, which would then protect the prophecy if not all of the knotweed is being removed. Uh, and again, that the membranes can be used on property boundaries. So you can remove the knotweed from your prophecy, uh, and then put in a membrane to stop, not weed that's on the property next door from spreading back into your property.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? How it, like you say, it's, it's got this bad name and it's, it's, it's like you, your arm ring fed, literally ring fencing your garden to stop it coming back in again. What's to stop if, you know, what are the don'ts? Like say if I saw a bit of, you know, not weed in my garden, I just want you to cut it back cause it looks horrible. Does that spread it quicker or does it, you know, and obviously you can't dispose of it in your normal green waste, but if, if you do anything to it, does it make it worse?

Speaker 5:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

Well, you know, just talking off at ground level wouldn't necessarily make it spread quicker. But one thing that is guaranteed to create the spread is if you start digging over the ground. And that's because the most infectious part for plants is the rhizome system or the root system if you like. Uh, so digging it over roads of eight in the ground or, or landscaping, you know, uh, reshaping the ground, all stuff like that is going to cause, uh, you know, quite dramatic spread.

Speaker 2:

Uh Huh.

Speaker 4:

Well, one little, one little piece of the rhizome system weighing perhaps about a gram is can we generate your fresh plant?

Speaker 3:

So literally, but if you wrote a weighted at a piece of land, you could literally spread it everywhere.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. You could, you know, you can turn one plant into hundreds of plants. Yeah, quite easily.

Speaker 3:

Wow. Steve, this has been absolutely amazing. Um, it's just, again, like I said, we've all heard of it, but, um, thankfully I haven't seen any in my garden line in your neighbor's gardens, but, um, it's nice just to uncover and, and uh, lift the lid on it. Really. Um, you guys must be really busy at the moment.

Speaker 4:

Well, yes, certainly. I mean, what we do is, tends to be quite seasonal. Uh, you know, when did you know, he goes very quiet in the winter when the not waiting in dormancy, uh, you know, uh, and then as soon as the not starts growing sort of March, April, uh, like I said, that, that very rapid growth of up to about four inches a day. It gets the phone ring in that special.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So if anybody needs to contact you, it's a Japanese knotweed.london. Is that correct?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's uh, a website address and email is info at Japanese, not, we've got London.

Speaker 3:

Amazing. Steve, thank you so much for your time today. Very much appreciated.

Speaker 2:

For the final part of this episode, I've enlisted the help of my good friend and business partner, Steph Bron. Together we created a DIY doers company. The idea is that it empowers people to pick up the tools and have a go. And we've also created a Facebook group called the DIY do is group and it's a bit like a mum's net for DIY. So if you're at home and you want to ask a question about how to drill something in a wall or about what sandpaper to use, you can just go on the Facebook group, ask the question and Stephanie Eyeland cert but generally are over, I think we've got over 2000 members. They all jump in and help and support of them. So

Speaker 3:

she came round for a drink last week and we went through some of the questions that have been asked on the group and we thought this question would be very helpful for you guys to have a listen to. Interesting on a website. Um, the I do is website where people ask for advice. So there's this one woman who had done amazing make-over in her bathroom, but she had one of those like, um, you know, those handrails that you have for an elderly person. And she'd, she'd sit out, didn't she done all this work and she just wanted to remove that and there was one screw that she couldn't get out. And she was, she was really struggling with them and it was lovely because we hadn't got chance to answer the question, but all of a sudden I think we had like seven or eight different responses to have this experience. Yeah. And then there were like, with their willing her, I think she let three or four screws to get out and each day she kept coming back going, I've got them all but not this one. What'd you recognize? It, it was like a winning battle and it was brilliant. So a lot of people like mentioned like spraying wd 40 into the screen. Yeah, that was one. Yeah. Um, what was interesting, um, there was, uh, which is something I learned is rather than, you know, lefty, Lucy to on titans, you know, lefty Lucy to on tighten it and righty tighty to tight and lefty Lucy too and do, which is a great mantra to remember, but people say tighten it first to unscrew s right. So you slept by tighten it. Right. You know, you've probably got more grips, turn, turn it the right way and it gets it moving. That's right. And then it's easier to unscrew it. Yep.

Speaker 6:

Definitely. It's the same with a lot of things that actually, um, it's why we always tell people when they are opening their stopcock not to fully open it. So if you've got a stock tack and it's a brass tap and you have to write your ties here to have it off, um, and you should do that every, you know. Yeah. At the very least, um, then when you open it, you shouldn't fully open it because if you've opened it all the way, you don't have that lefty loosy wiggle room to then turn it off is invaluable. It's an invaluable way of getting it going. Yeah. So there was a really interesting one that I've learned from this that was to do with an elastic band. Yes. And what they were saying was to put the elastic bands, they're classic boundaries, rubber head in. So imagine it's across head screw the sort of flat bit of a big plastic mat into that cross. Yeah. And then the screwdriver and I would actually recommend probably using a hand held screwdriver rather than a power tool because it will give you a bit more traction. Um, and pushing that on top of the elastic band and then

Speaker 3:

turning out a lot. It was really, cause you've got like a rubber grip that has made your screwdriver and it w it was one of those things like you know, you in this game you kind of feel like you've heard it all. And I was like, I would never thought of that.

Speaker 6:

Why somebody just thought yeah, that's a great idea to just get a bit of grit and it works. She got, she got the ball out and she would let you, I think, like I said, the thumbs up went crazy. Just sort of jumps onto this thread and the problem was solved and that everyone had just, this is what's so lovely about the DIY do is called the snake because the, that a sense of community spirit. You know, we've said this so many times, but it is the reason we created that group because you and I both have experiences of building forums and it is, is it's a terrifying place to venture into. And even I look at um, forums on Screwfix, you know, kind of general, not trade specific somewhere that general public could have access to. And I do think that the Internet can be a dangerous place for information, you know, because the, the source of that information needs to have a viability. And what, what's nice is we sort of scaled all that down, taken really ordinary everyday issues, you know, for want of a better way of describing it because it's, these are things that are perfectly within everybody's capability. There is no reason why you would hire somebody to take a handle off your bathroom wall. You know, it's essentially removing four screws, but in that moment where you are unable to remove the screw and then the sort of confidence drops and then you think, I haven't got the right gear, I don't know how to do this. And you are able to jump onto a place where you can ask for help advise. But without any sort of judgment or opinion that might make you then feel even less common. Yeah. What you're doing. I think I'm acquire and adapt. You know, I'm, I'm quite a Abel Carpenter. I've worked quite a lot, but there's a carpentry, um, forum. I won't go on, I won't ask a question because as soon as you the like, well, why don't you know, you know, and you're like, ah. Which is why we, we set up the duo ideas and that spirit of learning. Yeah. And I think what's so nice about this as well is that people are teaching other people from their own experiences. And because it's in a domain where there isn't, you know, we're not talking about kind of dealing with regulations or you know, huge amount of safety or things that people shouldn't be touching in their home or we're talking about as like it's quite general day to day issues. Um, and I think even when I visited the odd sort of plumbing forum or anything like that, I I have been able to obtain really useful snippets of information. Um, but what's quite interesting is the way that it's it, the way that it's told, it can be quite well I wouldn't do that because if you did that then you know, this is going to do into that and that can be a bit course of leaks where whereas, because I've got a trained, you know, and for somebody that you haven't, you have that experience knowledge when you read something like that. When I read something like that, we're able to go, oh, that's a great idea. Actually. It's probably not great to connect a Flexi hose onto an isolator because you haven't got the olive in there and it is shattered on the edge, which is meant to receive knowledge. But for somebody who's not doing that daily, that's a hugely overwhelming piece of information that could just make you spiral into, don't, you know? So I think it's really nice to, and, and again, part of what we were promoting was the, the knowledge to know when to not do it as well. It's completely fine and it is acceptable. And these trades exist for a reason. Regulations exist for a reason. It's important to educate yourself in that way. Um, but when it comes to things that you are able to do yourself, quite honestly, save the money and don't pay for somebody to come along and do the simplest of tasks. And even if that just comes down to securing your home in an emergency, you know, knowing rides to turn the stopcock off, nowhere to stop cocky, it's no, your fuse box is know how to turn it off, know how to deal with these things because it otherwise you, you're vulnerable really aren't you and your own home without even really real.

Speaker 1:

I see.

Speaker 2:

Here we are at the end of another jam packed episode of the TV carpenter. I hope you enjoyed hearing about my experience of working on interior design masters with Cassie and G and speaking to Steve, the Japanese not w heat specialist. It's amazing isn't it? How we fear Japanese knot weed and actually is probably not as bad as we all think. I wouldn't want it in my garden, but it was kind of interesting to say, b ut i t's actually got a bad reputation than it really is and he's never actually seen a house collapse because of Japanese, not weed, but h e still c an't get insurance. R ight. I t's still c ould get a mortgage because of it. You have to have to have it treated. But it was, yeah, it was really interesting. Speaking to, to Steve, I hope you liked hearing me and S teph talk about, u m, some of the top tips we can give you when removing a screw out of a wall. Like I said, we're always learning something new with DIY and I hope it empowered you to realize that Facebook group and the DLI do is that we create is there to support you, is there to help you, is there to empower you to pick up the drill and have a go any DIY. Remember, if you enjoyed listening to the TV carpenter podcast, don't forget to drop me a message. You can email me directly at Wayne Perry on Instagram or Wayne Perry on Twitter. Send me message, let me know what you, of the show. If you've got any questions you want me to answer on the show, send me those messages and if you could rate with you. And that really does help as we always say, it helps people find us. But more importantly, a huge thank you to my sponsor, the thorn down. I couldn't do this podcast without their sponsorship, so thank you to them. Remember they have peelable glass paint, they have wood paint. And remember, if your choosing a paint and you want to be as equal as possible, please think about thorn down. And remember, you can get 15% off by using the code t v Carpenter when you contact their website, Thorn down.co. Dot. UK. Thank you again for listening to the TV carpenter

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