Summer Schofield is a Holistic Nutritionist who has derived her extensive knowledge from both education and personal experience.
When her child started experiencing seizures, but was not responding to the medication prescribed, Summer had to include herself on her daughter's "medical team".
She immersed herself in studying why her daughter was sick and what she could do when it came to lifestyle and nutritional changes to help her daughter heal.
Now, Summer is now running her own practice and is offering her expertise in SHIFT, my mood membership for mommas, as a SHIFT EXPERT!
Because we know that our mood is not simply created by one thing, The SHIFT EXPERTS are there to help you approach your mood from all angles, so you can find real and lasting remission from your depression.
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Summer Schofield is a Holistic Nutritionist who has derived her extensive knowledge from both education and personal experience.
When her child started experiencing seizures, but was not responding to the medication prescribed, Summer had to include herself on her daughter's "medical team".
She immersed herself in studying why her daughter was sick and what she could do when it came to lifestyle and nutritional changes to help her daughter heal.
Now, Summer is now running her own practice and is offering her expertise in SHIFT, my mood membership for mommas, as a SHIFT EXPERT!
Because we know that our mood is not simply created by one thing, The SHIFT EXPERTS are there to help you approach your mood from all angles, so you can find real and lasting remission from your depression.
****If you want to know if SHIFT is right for you, CLICK below and ill send you some more information!
GET HER NEXT STEP NOW
interested in SHIFT? Want a free call with EMYLEE? Grab a spot for a free call here
Find more information and Free resources HERE:
https://hernextstep.limitlessfemalecoaching.com/landing-page-her-next-step
Have a question about the program or something you want answered on the podcast? Come chat with me on instagram!
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Hi, I'm Emily with the Limitless Female podcast. You were listening to episode 120, using alternative methods to heal your mood with holistic nutritionist Summer Schofield. Woman welcome. If you're a mama who is feeling all the feels of motherhood the ups and downs of hormones and maybe even depression then you are in the right place. Limitless Female is your confident inner voice, helping you master your mood and create the epic life that calls you. My goal is to show you just how enough you are so you can show up limitless in your own life. Let's get started.
Speaker 1:Good morning friends. I am so excited to be here with you guys today and we have such a treat for you. Today I got to speak with Summer Schofield, who runs whole nutrition with Summer. So Summer is a holistic nutritionist and, if you're like me, the word holistic has been kind of popping up in and around your life. Maybe you've reached out to holistic doctors or nutritionists or people who work with functional medicine. Maybe you've been dabbling in that or learning about it, maybe thinking about hey, could this be something that could help with my depression and my mood? And you know, here at Shift and at Limitless Female, we really focus on treating the root cause and sometimes we can get a better grip on that root cause when we look at it from all angles, which is why I'm so excited to announce to you guys that Summer is actually a Shift expert. Now that just means that Summer is going to be teaching a class inside of the Shift membership that will live in the vault, so anybody who signs up for Shift will have access to this class where she's going to teach you the five lifestyle changes you never knew could totally alter your mood and make life so much easier.
Speaker 1:As you guys will hear, summer is a wealth of knowledge and to keep it light and fun, I kept interrupting with ridiculous stories and references to the Bachelor. So if you're not into that, just listen to Summer. I think that you guys are going to find a lot of fun and education and some things to take away for today that you guys can change. I'm going to give you guys a little spoiler. She is going to tell you how to completely transform mac and cheese forever and make it a totally healthy, mood boosting treat for your kiddos. So you guys have to listen till the mac and cheese part. Oh, and we talk about enemas. I'm just going to leave it at that. Just wait and see. Just see if you like it. All right, here's my conversation with Summer. I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. You know I found you on Instagram, which is what every creeper says when they slide into DMs.
Speaker 2:That's what people say right, yes, no, I love it. I'm so happy to be here, graham Love it.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad to have you here. So one reason why I loved what you were doing and why it stood out to me was because the way you talked about sugar was the first thing that really caught my eye, because I think sometimes we're afraid to talk like straightforwardly about just sugar as an example, about something that's very common that we have in our like American diet or in our American lifestyle, and yet it is so detrimental that I feel like sometimes we miss the root causes because it's like, well, we're not going to cut out sugar, but let's definitely do these things right when really the root causes are some of the most obvious and sometimes simple, maybe not easy not easy often to lower our sugar intake but it definitely is straightforward.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yep, you're so right, it's not easy, but not easy, but very simple.
Speaker 1:So yeah, there so you're trying to educate, yes, so tell everybody a little bit about what you do. I know you are a holistic nutritionist and you're doing a lot of good. Tell everybody a little bit about your title, and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 2:Okay, yep, so I am a certified holistic nutritionist and I do one-on-one coaching. My goal is just to educate as much as possible. So I do a lot on Instagram and I just that's. My passion is getting the education out there because, like you said it is, it is simple. People just don't always know where to go to look for the answers for stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, isn't that the truth? Like I seriously feel like that is the biggest hurdle is it's kind of like, where do I go for this? Like, who do I, what is it called? Who do I ask? Like, is there a directory somewhere? I definitely felt that in trying to, and also maybe similar to the coaching industry, I'm not sure. But is it third party regulated or is I feel like a holistic nutritionist there? It's a lot of like variation in anything with the word holistic before. Is that true?
Speaker 2:Yes, so it is true, I mean I am certified, but it is different than say like a dietitian. A dietitian is regulated. It's similar to like a doctor, like they have very strict regulations. They have very strict guidelines of how they can teach, how they can educate, how they can provide their services, and so a nutritionist is a little bit different and it varies by state as well. That's the thing. So in Arizona there's very loose regulations, which, honestly, I love. I think that that is so powerful because you can kind of shop around and see who fits the best with your lifestyle, and it allows way more flexibility with how you are teaching and approaching things, and I love it. That's specific.
Speaker 1:That's what I love about coaching too.
Speaker 2:I know it's right it can be seen as like.
Speaker 1:I think when I was first coaching, that was in my back of my head a lot like, oh, I don't have an MD or I don't have a. But also, if I've noticed, a lot of doctors and even therapists have also got their coaching certifications and are coaching because all of a sudden, as a coach, you can let go of the red tape of going state to state, of doing things through zoom right, Different recommendations. I mean there's all kinds of regulations that are not serving our clients that we're able to let down. So I definitely have seen that be the case and you're so.
Speaker 2:I mean you're so you can be so highly regulated by things like insurance and stuff too. And so I mean with a nutritionist you don't have to worry about stuff like that, it is all you know out of pocket costs. But with that comes the freedom and flexibility of learning and growth and teaching However you feel is best for your clients.
Speaker 1:So yeah to be honest, I've actually seen a lot of my MDs like different doctors, the things that I'm having them do for me, I'm paying out of pocket anyway because they don't want to deal with the insurance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I mean it's becoming more and more common when you go to a doctor to get things done, that it's just out of pocket. The question I asked you to when we first talked kind of in our preview interview was help me understand the difference between like a holistic nutritionist and, like you said, like a dietitian or other, than just there being less regulation. What does it mean to add the word holistic to the beginning of what you do?
Speaker 2:So what holistic means is basically I take a whole health, whole lifestyle approach to healing. So holistic yes, you typically use a lot more natural processes of healing, but it is the biggest focus is. It just encompasses the body as a whole as well as the lifestyle, which includes mental, emotional, social, intellectual, spiritual well-being. So that's kind of what holistic means in a nutshell.
Speaker 1:Okay and this is what drove me to invite you to be a kind of a shift expert in our membership was your global approach, because I'm all about root cause healing and that really is about a global approach. We can't just like zone in on one symptom Symptoms yeah, yes on symptoms because then we kind of miss the actual treatment part and we're kind of just in that phase of putting out the fire really quick, but you can definitely expect it to come back. So I really love that about you and you guys. Like I just said, summer is going to be a shift expert. That means she's going to have a class inside of the shift membership where she is going to teach you the five lifestyle changes you can do that maybe you didn't realize were affecting your mood and that could drastically improve your mood if you commit to them. And I'm guessing there are things that people have heard of but never knew they would have such a drastic impact on their mood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I think that people don't really look at health and maybe they do more so. With them working with you, there are probably a lot more open to things like that. But these five things that I will be teaching really are so connected to mood and, honestly, health is. I believe health is education and mindset combined and that is that will really like put you on the best trajectory for whole holistic health, like a whole body health.
Speaker 1:Okay, what do you mean by mindset and health combined?
Speaker 2:So, like for example, in my coaching, I focus a lot on the education aspect. Of course people need to have the knowledge, have the understanding of what to do and why to do it. But then the second component to that is having a strong mindset. Because mindset is can either be a roadblock when it comes to your health, or it can be what propels you forward and gives you that not just motivation but discipline to make the progress, to make the changes, to grow constantly. Because mindset is truly, it can be the biggest roadblock when it comes to health. Your thoughts, your feelings, those drive your actions. I mean you teach this, it's everything.
Speaker 1:So yeah, just kind of work through those fears and those roadblocks.
Speaker 2:It's huge.
Speaker 1:You're so right Education is everything. But then I feel like there's also a lot of education out there. I don't subscribe to all of it. Obviously, nobody does right. They pick and choose what falls in their value base and what based on their experience. But it means nothing if you can't implement it.
Speaker 1:And this is one thing I coach my clients on all the time, when we're talking about even their kids. How many times do we have to tell our kids to pick up their room until they should be picking up their room without us asking? And I'll tell my clients like I know that chocolate gives me heartburn and a migraine. Can I stop eating chocolate? Not always. Just because you know it's not good for you doesn't mean you can do it right. And it's that additional piece of like. How do I make these changes? And it sounds like you've really narrowed it down into like five very simple, straightforward areas, which I love. And that is like the main thing about shift is we kind of uncomplicate everything and make it very simple. It really is so much easier to feel better than what people are doing currently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. I think yes and yeah, that you've got it exactly right. You have to break it down. You have to take bite size, simple pieces to really achieve like successful growth, like permanent, long term growth and because you're right, like if you just have the education, you know everything. It's like the chocolate thing, like people know that you shouldn't just eat chocolate all day, every day, but it's the mindset component that goes with it of you know why are we eating chocolate?
Speaker 2:Yeah like getting to the root cause, changing those thoughts, like interrupting those negative thoughts or whatever. But then, on the flip side, somebody can have the best mindset in the world and be the most positive person and have a desire to change, but then, if they don't have the education to go with it, the changes are going to happen, you know. So they really are hand in hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my mom, you know I noticed that too, like when my mima hasn't got married, we had a little bit of different, you know, education growing up around food.
Speaker 1:And it is really interesting now actually talking about it because even though he had maybe less variety in his food and kind of more of that like Mormon diet, like cast roles and things like that, they probably had less of weight issues than we had in my family genetics, but also for other reasons, like feeling deprived maybe or something.
Speaker 1:But one thing we did notice between the two of us is that I knew and some of these ideas have changed but I had certain ideas like, oh, I'd choose brown rice over white rice or I'd choose a sweet potato over regular potato, because it was like my brother was trying to make the weight for his age of football. He was a little heavier than his friends, and so my mom just like and she was a fitness instructor so she just kind of like changed our food for a couple years, like we just ate so healthy and I just had this little education about what are good swaps, basically, I think, and where I feel like I feel like a lot of people just never knew that because their parents didn't know that, or their parents weren't feeding them that way, and so just having those simple like nuggets of wisdom dropped on your plate it makes it so much easier to be like oh, I'll do this instead of that.
Speaker 2:Like exactly, yeah, right, that's. That's like a huge thing, and I'm so big on just swapping little things out, like I actually just did a little thing on Instagram about mac and cheese and it's like you don't have to. Just, I mean, every kid loves it, every kid loves mac and cheese. I'm not saying you have to get rid of the mac and cheese, but there are so many different little tweaks you can make to it that make a huge difference, instead of just having a box of Kraft mac and cheese. You can. You know there's better brands out there, but then like, cook the noodles in chicken broth instead of water. You know, raw milk instead of conventional fat free milk, or you know, there's just like so many little swaps you can do. So it doesn't need to be overwhelming and these big massive overnight changes, but just have to ask you is sourdough bread actually gluten-free?
Speaker 2:No, so you can make gluten-free sourdough. I have not perfected that yet, but what sourdough is is it breaks down like 95% of the gluten, so people tolerate it a whole lot better because it lowers the glycemic index and everything, and your blood sugars aren't spiking. So I love sourdough. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1:It's really useful to ask you because I feel like there's so much information out there. But I love sourdough too. It's so funny because nobody in my family does other than me, which is so sad. But instead of going like gluten-free bread, which I feel like it's kind of nasty, and my son, like I, have gluten issues. I'm not gluten like, I don't have an allergic reaction, but I have like autoimmune issues that happen over time.
Speaker 1:And I had DNA. You know genomics run on my own body. But you know, when I would ask her about my kids and she's also in the program, you'll love her Her name's Ryan Overcast. You guys, I need to connect you guys. But she also said well, he has 50% of your DNA. So whatever you're doing, you can do it too. But I didn't want to just like be like no bread, and she's that way too. She's like we're not burning down all the house and all the food. So that's what I did. I was an easy swap. I was like we're just gonna do sourdough bread, like I heard it was naturally left gluten.
Speaker 2:We don't do gluten in our house for any of my kids that's. I mean we can get into that later, but we do sourdough because I feel like that is I love it.
Speaker 1:Way better. I feel so cool, like I was right on track. Yeah, I know you're doing great. Okay, good, I'm afraid to like give any like nutrition advice on here, because you're like actually, Emily, and feel free to always be like actually and, like you know, push your glasses up in the middle of your nose yeah actually that's incorrect.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, You're doing great.
Speaker 1:Small changes are awesome. Small changes, Okay. What else do you do to mac and cheese? I just have to know, is there anything else? Do you chicken broth? You do you got it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I get pretty intense with my mac and cheese, honestly.
Speaker 1:I have to hear it.
Speaker 2:I will do. I'll throw some ground beef in there, but then I will also grind up some beef liver into that and then cook up Okay, you're serious. Beef liver is an amazing superfood, I know.
Speaker 1:I just throw it in there and my kids can't yeah. So organs like I used to take like an organ supplement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's so hard to see the changes of nutrition, so it's hard to stick with some of those things.
Speaker 2:It is, but that's really awesome.
Speaker 1:So you grind a beef liver yourself.
Speaker 2:I grind it just like in a food processor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:And then you cook it with the ground beef so it doesn't taste any different. My kids know it's in there because I tell them I don't hide things in my food. But they're just getting like this huge nutrient, dense bowl of mac and cheese instead of these empty calories of Kraft, mac and cheese or something But-.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder what we can do to top ramen. I don't know if it can be saved, but my teenagers love top ramen. I should have never introduced it to them.
Speaker 2:There's some good like brown rice noodles that cost us. And they're really good actually. And then you just cook them in again like bone broth and chicken broth I love bone broth, yeah, bone broth and throw in some veggies and you have a-.
Speaker 1:And we always end an egg because I love adding that protein. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:That's great. See little spots like that. It doesn't have to be over complicated, but those make all the difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, Just the mac and cheese thing has me like we're done like bone away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like this is crazy.
Speaker 1:When you said grind your own like beef liver and like picturing. Have you seen that movie? So I married an ax murder. No, I haven't. It's like my all time favorite movie where she's like working in a like deli meat shop and like it's just this like crazy thing, where she's like pulling the sausages out of the thing and like they're throwing beef liver around anyways, this is what was going on, so I was like you grind it and you're like well in a food processor, emily, like it's not crazy Nothing crazy.
Speaker 1:No, no, okay, I love it. I love it, okay. So tell me what got you on this path of holistic nutrition, because obviously you started at zero at some point. So what turned you on to this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you want long version or short version? Long?
Speaker 2:version always, always Okay, yeah, no, it was. It's been quite a journey. So I am a mama for my oldest, so she's eight now. When she was 10 months old, she had a seizure and it was the most traumatic experience of my life. We were reassured that it was just a febrile seizure. So basically, what that is is just like when your temperature spikes, your body overheats so quickly and sends you into a seizure. So we were reassured over and over like this is actually common in kids she'll be fine. Well, about a month later she had her second seizure and still we were just told it was a febrile seizure, and then nothing happened after that for about eight months. So we thought we were in the clear.
Speaker 1:When they say common in kids, what are they referring to, like what's common about that?
Speaker 2:I think it's mostly because just kids immune systems are still developing.
Speaker 2:And so they don't always react well to a temperature spike, so their bodies don't quite know how to handle it yet. So I think it's more just like, as they develop, your body learns to handle a temperature better and it's not gonna freak out, but it is. I have heard of lots of kids having febrile seizures, so it is truly a common thing. But what happened was about eight months later they started hitting again like full force and I knew this was much more than just febrile seizures.
Speaker 1:What made you think that?
Speaker 2:Because they were happening when she was not sick, she didn't have a temperature, and so I knew that it was like and they just kept telling me, oh no, she'll grow out of it, she'll grow out of it. And so I advocated hard for doing every test. I mean, we did everything you could think of MRIs, eegs, blood work, vision tests, heart monitoring. I eventually pushed for genetic testing and Would that actually push back a little bit on that? They did I mean I've had that experience. They did. They kind of just treated me like this is not like why aren't you listening to us? Okay, over dramatic mother. Yes, we did the genetic testing and that did come back with her having a gene deletion and that gene deletion is linked to epilepsy and autism and developmental delay and what she did eventually get all of those diagnoses, as well as anxiety and OCD. So we were dealing with a lot with her and so she wasn't having seizures every day, but sometimes it would be 12, 13, 14 in a day and yeah, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Speaker 1:I just think about how exhausted a child would be after a seizure to have 14, I can't even imagine. And then yeah, I know it was You're having to be with her 24, seven, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I remember always having a baby monitor on her until she was like six years old because Wow, the seizures would happen at night a lot of times. And I remember one night hearing her choking in the middle of the night, I mean dead asleep. I jolt to her room, sprint to her room, I find her seizing and she had long curly hair and it was just wrapped around her neck, choking her. And so I mean we cut it the next day and we've never had long hair on her since but, I'm very traumatizing.
Speaker 2:Definitely she was always in the hospital, constantly in some form of doctor's appointments. I remember looking at my calendar once, and it was every single week for months. It was at least two to three appointments for her of some sort. So it was a wild ride. We had tried medication after medication after medication, help with her seizures, and it was finally on her sixth or seventh medication.
Speaker 1:And even after you guys knew it was the chandelier and yeah, yeah, because she was like the medications still weren't working.
Speaker 2:No, the medications weren't working and they had horrible side effects. I mean, it turned her into a completely different person. She was having speech delays, slurring her speech, mental fogginess, like just. I mean, she was a totally different person and so I was just like something's gotta get something. This is crazy. Like it's not working. And I distinctly remember it was truly by divine intervention. My aunt reached out to me and she told me to try going to a chiropractor and I was like a chiropractor, what in the world? Like that doesn't even make sense. What does that have anything to do with seizures? Like chiropractors crack your back and adjust you and like what does that have to do with anything? But she was like no, this chiropractor that I've been seeing, he has been working for 30 plus years in the field and he specifically went into chiropractic care because his daughter was having seizures.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, and.
Speaker 2:I was like what in the world, okay? So at this point I knew in my gut that I needed to try something that conventional medicine wasn't giving us and I refused to just accept that this was her life. Like I just knew. I knew in my gut and it wasn't just like a refusal of accepting that, it was more just like a confirmation I repeatedly received that this wasn't meant to be her lifelong path, like there was more out there for her and I needed to find it.
Speaker 1:So I think that's like one of the things that we teach in shift is like this spirit lead parenting, or some people might call it like higher brain lead parenting. And I think, as women, sometimes we learn to stop trusting our gut because it's so often questioned. And it's really neat to have experiences where it's confirmed that, like I knew what I was feeling was the right path. And I would say, whether you're spiritual or not, a parent is. I mean, how can you deny that a parent would have? If they have the right intentions that they would have, they would be the person to know what's the next best step.
Speaker 1:And I think sometimes we give away that power when we're around another professional. And while I like think it's so important to listen to professionals, listen to different, read books, get information, I think we have to balance that with our own intuition and gut feeling or the spirit, which is what you did, because you know you know best and I have found that to be true over and over and over. If I said I've raised my kids and hopefully it sounds like this is going to end well the story and that it was another confirmation that, like where you could be, like I can show up confidently. I don't need to say, oh, I'm not an MD, so I don't know what's going on with my child. Right, we really do have to like advocate for ourselves, and that includes with people like doctors and you know others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're so right. And this, yeah, the story gets wild, yeah. So I mean, we went to the chiropractor and truly this chiropractor like he was our miracle, Like he is what set us on our trajectory to healing. Like he was so knowledgeable on the body as a whole, like the nervous system, the skeletal system, just how everything connected and worked together. And the cool thing was is like I left his office every time just feeling so much more knowledgeable because he took the time to explain everything that he was doing and why. So each time my daughter would have a seizure, I would take her in to get adjusted and he could literally feel how her nervous system was in balance. Like he would adjust the plates in her skull and like realign her in ways to create new pathways and retrain her nervous system to react appropriately, instead of using the incorrect pathways that it had formed over the years of seizures that it had trained itself to react.
Speaker 1:It was almost like remembering the pathways that created the seizures, almost like how we do, like voluntary pathway, like desire loops. That kind of makes sense to me without knowing much about it. Yeah, and I as he's explaining.
Speaker 2:I'm like that makes perfect sense Like a seizure is. It's like a, like a jolt, you know, a jolt that is sending firing these neurons and she, her body, had like trained itself to do it incorrectly and go on these wrong pathways or whatever to. Yeah, and anyway, so long story short, like he was doing this and like, as time went on, I was feeling so much hope and I just felt this very strong intuition. It was I mean, it was the spirit absolutely that we needed to keep on this path of more natural healing for her. So I talked to her pediatric neurologist and I explained my strong impression to take her off the medication and try other methods, because all the medications were not working anyway and none of them had actually stopped the seizures and all of them, every single one of them, had left her with horrible side effects, like I said, like the slurred speech, full body rashes, vertigo, fogginess.
Speaker 1:I mean it was a mess, it's pretty rough when the medication is giving side effects that are as bad as the problem you're trying to solve.
Speaker 1:I mean that really was the point when I was really fine with being on medication for depression I still am but I really was like why do people give such a big deal? Like if I had to put a small pill in my mouth the rest of my life and it makes me happy, awesome. But it wasn't until the symptoms were worse than or as bad like weight gain was making me severely depressed and I don't know. I just felt like I also wasn't seeing a stable of mood. So it was kind of like is it worth it if it's not actually improving my mood? And those are things that make you question like okay, what else is out there which just sounds like that was it for you? Like those side effects sounds pretty intense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was rocking her world, it was so hard to watch and again, I'm not. And how old was she at this point? She was five. So she was five years old. So we've been dealing with this for four plus years.
Speaker 2:And so I remember her neurologist being absolutely adamant that I not take her off, telling me that doing so would cause an intense regression and probably killer. And I distinctly remember her saying that, that it could be intense enough to kill her. And oddly enough, I wasn't like scared by her saying that. It's like my mind just like rejected it. I knew it wasn't true. Like again, like spirit just full took over there and I was like that's not true, it's not gonna be true. And again, I'm not like I wanna say it, like it is important to listen to a doctor's advice, it is important to If they're specifically trained in that. Like absolutely I'm not here to advocate for like totally disregarding Western medicine or doctors at all. That's not what I'm saying, but like I don't know, I don't know how else to explain it, other than it was like an intense spiritual revelation, gut instinct to but I feel like that's all we hear, is to just listen to a doctor.
Speaker 1:And while, of course, they have a lot of schooling, I think I was really shocked to find out what they didn't have education in, and I think my whole life I grew up thinking they just knew everything right.
Speaker 1:But even a doctor will tell you like they're not trained in nutrition, they're not trained in root cause. There's different things, right. That is not their specialty, and so I think that it's really important to open your mind and learn from all different aspects of healing, and the thing about holistic healing is that it's not based in like woohoo, like it's based in science.
Speaker 2:Still it is. Yeah, it's just not how to medical school, it's just science that we've gotten so far away. I feel like it's more godly science than medical science. And so and one thing too is like you have to realize yourself as a parent, but just for yourself too, like you're part of a team when it comes to your health. It's not. You simply shouldn't just listen to somebody, just like as a nutrition coach, like you shouldn't just listen to me what I'm saying, like it's both of us, like you as a client, me as the nutritionist. And it's the same way with a doctor, because, while they are an expert in their field, I was an expert in my daughter Like you know and I Thank you.
Speaker 1:That's a perfect way to put it, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I basically told her, I told the neurologist like, listen, I feel very strongly about this, so you can either help me know how to wean her off of this medication safely, or, like, I'm gonna have to figure it out on my own and I'd rather not do that. So, anyway, long story short, she finally was like, okay, here is how to safely wean her, but just be aware that the seizures are gonna come back and this could kill her. And I'm like, okay, I get it, I get that that's Like I only do the disclaimer, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, we weaned her off. I kept taking her to the chiropractor pretty regularly, and then I do have to say that there were a few other interventions that I started making for her at the same time that I feel like wholeheartedly contributed to her getting better, and one of them was that we did stop vaccinating her. There's a lot of crap in vaccines. I know it's a little bit of a controversial topic, but-.
Speaker 1:But also no, like 50% of my listeners want to hear from somebody who made that choice right. So I think it's and this is just my personal experience, so take it or leave it. But like yeah.
Speaker 2:It's on the black box warnings for all these vaccines that it can cause seizures. So like I just knew in my gut, like I already knew genetically she was susceptible to this. So like I'm not gonna add to her load, her burden, so we stopped vaccinating. We actually did a heavy metal detox as well, just to help her clear out the heavy metals from the vaccines and all the other household products. I mean that's a whole other story. We cut out gluten, like I was saying, because gluten is a neurotoxin, it's extremely inflammatory to the brain. We worked on her gut health. So there were all these little things that we were doing, because that's a huge part of health too is that it's typically not just one thing that's gonna solve you or cure you or whatever. It's this whole bucket of things.
Speaker 2:But as the appointments with the chiropractor went on, we reached a point one day specifically where we, for lack of a better term, graduated from the chiropractor and I remember it so clearly when he told me he said she's good. I didn't even have to adjust her today, like everything stayed in place. From what I feel, everything has been retrained. It's not coming out of place constantly Like she's good and basically just come back if she has another seizure and we'll go from there, but for now, everything seems back in order. I'm like getting chills right now, just like remember it was such a powerful day.
Speaker 2:So her last seizure was in March of 2020. So it's been three and a half years and I can confidently say that we're in the clear with her. There's no more doctor's appointments, there's no more speech delays, no more developmental delays. Like she is back, like it has been the most miraculous healing journey. But unfortunately, that's not where this story ends. So in 2020, about eight months after my daughter's last seizure, my son so my one and a half year old son at that point, he went and got his vaccines one morning. So we had stopped vaccinating my daughter and I had my other two on a delayed schedule still. So he went and got his vaccines that morning. 45 minutes later, came home, threw up profusely and then slept for about five hours and then, later that evening, he had his first seizure. And, man, when I tell you like a fiery passion like no other was lit in me that night because it was like my whole, my daughter's whole experience set that trajectory for me. But my son's first seizure absolutely launched me into everything.
Speaker 1:But I it wasn't a one off situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I was just like absolutely not. There is no way that we are going down this path again. Like there's no way. Because, yeah, immediately like that night, while my son was still lying in the hospital bed, I remember being on the phone with his pediatrician, who had just given him his vaccines. Earlier that day, he said to me he said I still feel completely confident in keeping your son on the normal vaccine schedule and giving him his next dose in a few months time. And I said I'm so glad you feel comfortable with that. I, however, do not. So thank you bye. And that was that Like we were done, because I knew, like I knew what to do at that point.
Speaker 2:I knew what had worked for my daughter. So I did the exact same thing. I took my son to the chiropractor and we made some serious changes as a whole in our family. Like I already knew a whole lot by this point. But I kind of buckled down and decided enough was enough. Like we were definitely done with the vaccines. We're definitely all detoxing from the heavy metals, we're definitely all cleaning up our gut health, we're eliminating a lot of the inflammatory foods like, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2:We did a whole bunch of things, and my son did have a couple more little seizures after that. One was a few months later and then another was about nine months after that, but his last seizure was in October of 2021. So he's about two years a little over two years seizure free now, and the experience with the chiropractor was pretty much the exact same, but just more expedited because we caught things at the very beginning, before his body went into like complete shock from all the seizures and kind of trained its nervous system to seize with any trigger. We didn't have to deal with as much of that as we had with my daughter, so that led me to hear Wow.
Speaker 1:It was a wild ride. So how did you fall upon? Holistic nutrition, Were you like? Okay, what was it called? That I'm already doing as a mom for my kids? Yeah, no, that was exactly it.
Speaker 2:So I was like so well educated at that point on holistic health, without really knowing that that's what I was learning about.
Speaker 2:It was just like all these different natural ways to like support the body instead of just like throwing medications at it which, again, is not the worst thing, but like it just it wasn't working and I knew it wasn't the path.
Speaker 2:So I decided at that point that I was like, well, I may as well get formally certified in it so that I can like officially be helping people, because I was already helping so many people throughout the years. Like I never kept our story private or secretive and I'm so glad I never did, because I truly cannot count how many people that I've been able to assist with different things just because of all the experiences that we went through and I shared about. So, whether that was through food choices or epilepsy, or like specialist recommendations or vaccine education like people felt like they could reach out to me because they knew that I was like that I had been through this insane journey with my kids and I was sharing about it. So, yeah, I just decided that this was powerful, like it was literally life changing for my family and I was already having people reach out and like, use me as their point of reference, point of like, point of contact when they had things that they wanted, a natural perspective.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense, yeah, you know I kind of think of sometimes, when I think of like life coach or holistic nutritionist or that, if you do want to go to the doctor, right, Because we need sometimes like real time blood testing, things like that, Because we want to get accurate, right now information that helps guide our like holistic journey, Is that it's kind of like a doula for your health sometimes, right? Or a doula for your like emotional health, Because I don't know if you guys know what a doula is, but I didn't have one. But when I was about to give birth to my first child, I got a call. We were about to drive across country because I was like we had to move. We were not selling anything, we were selling security and we couldn't make any sales. They had shut down all the sales in Richmond, Virginia and we're like, all right, we're moving to Fort Worth. So I think I was like I want to say, like, 10 days out from having my baby, it's dumb, right. This is what we were going to do. This is called first child. This is actually this is how I always am. We call it pulling an Emily, but we, like you know, we were going to load the car and drive cross country. Actually I was going to fly and my husband was going to drive. He started driving, so he was an hour away.
Speaker 1:And I get a call and they're like oh, you're so. Oh, the earlier that day they said you're supposed to be on bed rest. We forgot to tell you like your white blood cell count is way up. Like my feet were so swollen that they were. They were squishing through the holes on my crocs. Oh, my gosh, I mean like it was so bad I could hardly be upright. And they're like oh, before I tell you like you're supposed to be on bed rest, I'm like what? So I'm bed rest? And then they call me later that night and they're like actually you need to come in and deliver. Like it's just out of control, you need to come in. And I was so scared and my husband's an hour away. So I'm like turn around, come home. I'm not. I don't even know how we had that plan. I don't need to get on a plane that big. So I don't know. But and I definitely looked, nine months I don't look like little when I have babies, yeah, and the water.
Speaker 1:Wait. My daughter stopped picture of me the other day and she's like what's wrong with your face? And I'm like girl, that's what happens when I get pregnant. It's like I get that like raccoon mask and then my face gets like full with water anyways, because I had preeclampsia with my son. So I come in to the doctor's office and my friend's like let me, let me put you on the phone with my doula, and that five minutes was so helpful. She was like you can say no to this, you can say yes to this when they offer you this.
Speaker 1:This is what that actually is Like. Explain to me. Like you know, maybe in a medication that would induce me is actually also uses in the board of medication and like just just information, right? You know, like I'm a brand new mom and she's like you can tell them I don't want an apeziotomy. Like you can say things and you know, I feel like that's something that having a holistic nutritionist like you allow somebody is information. But also, like your, your story gives people the kind of like the permission, even though they never needed it to, to like believe that they, they know enough to at least follow their gut, right. So yeah, be educated by doctors, but I love that you that's the perfect way to say it Like you're on the team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're not. You're not there to just like take, you know, follow orders and stuff. Like if you, you know, and and what's what I think? I think it can be kind of frustrating is they they don't have a lot of time to spend with you. So that's what. That's. One thing you have to remember, too, is like, yeah, sure, they are educated and they're there to help you and stuff, but at the end of the day, like if they're only spending 10 minutes of you, how much do they truly know about you? Like you're the expert at you, you know, and it's okay to do your own research and it's okay like going to the doctor is not the end, all be all. I mean, I think people know this like you always have the opportunity to go and be another specialist.
Speaker 2:I know it's true, but it's kind of the same thing, like you just have to have a whole tool belt of different people for your health.
Speaker 2:It's not just a one person end, all be all. And I have, I have so many friends who are doctors and so many friends in the medical field and I wholeheartedly believe like there is a time and place for Western medicine, of course, like hands down, but I don't know. I guess I would just let people know that doctors aren't experts in everything. They're not. And if, if I had, if I had just only listened to my daughter's pediatric neurologist, my daughter would be on medication for the rest of her life and she'd be a totally different person. And I'm not saying that that doesn't, that's not needed for some people and that that's not the path for some people, but like the fact that I told her that I was taking her to a chiropractor and I was really hopeful and she basically told me like a chiropractor doesn't know anything about epilepsy, they're not going to be able to help. What do you mean like that? Like that was her knowledge on chiropractic care and it was mine at the beginning too.
Speaker 1:But it's just like just know that not every doctor knows everything about everything and that's okay, I'm supposed to, and everyone is going to think that their modality is the modality yes, so your job kind of is like the general contractor of building the house. It's like I know that the Sucko person thinks that suckos the most important part of the house, but you know that it takes all the you know contractors.
Speaker 1:This is my analogy because we just built the house. But anyways, like as a mom, like that's your job, and also as an advocate of your own health, it's your job to be like. Okay, thank you for the information. Let me keep gathering information because, of course, everybody's going to think their modality is the best, just like how I think life coaching is the bomb. Right, yeah, people have to take all the information in, right, and I also love the way that we help people and I imagine it's similar for you, which is why I said we. But we're coaching people on their mindset, not on what they should do, because we actually believe, as coaches, that they know best what they should do and that what they're fighting with is internally what they think they're allowed to do versus what they know they should do. And we're just helping them sift through all that junk in their brain, we're not telling them what to do, which is why coaching such a good combination with holistic nutrition is what you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I love holistic health in general because, just like you said, it's looking at the big picture of things and it's not just nitpicking the just the nutrition part of it. It's because health is so much more than just nutrition. So, yeah, I love it because I love that I can just kind of give people a snapshot of the whole big picture and work from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is why we created the expert section in shift, and when I say we, I mean me. I always say we, like it's this huge company, it's me. But which is why I created it? Because I feel like I could not help people with their emotional health and neglect to like, inform them about all these other root causes. Right, like, yes, mindset's a huge thing, I think.
Speaker 1:Thoughts about even a diagnosis of depression, or, you know, thoughts about your own mood that day, or you know all of that is going to create added suffering, that's also going to increase your depression.
Speaker 1:Thoughts about your circumstances, but also, like, the root cause of of things that are in what you do, and you know the fact that we have genetic testing now, which is not offered or even recommended or or even suggested in many situations, and you know, there's just so many things that are going to help treat a root cause or even identify them that me, as a coach, I'm not going to do and I was like I have to have all of these things in my program in some way at least to refer people to the experts in their field that I feel like they know what they're talking about. They're doing a really good job and which is why I included you in there. So I love that you broke it down into five kind of main lifestyle changes that have a massive impact on mood, and this is the class that you created and that we're going to have in the shift membership up. So can you kind of give people a brief overview of what those might be.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I'm so excited because I love what you're doing. I seriously love that you are bringing in a bunch of different people to teach. I love it. The. So the five main pillars that I'll be teaching in your program it's kind of like a five main pillars of holistic health that I will give a snapshot on each of these categories, but it's basically food, fitness, sleep, environmental factors and then alternative healing methods. So those are the five main categories. So food, basically education on field, on food, meal planning, understanding food labels, eating whole foods, what regenerative farming is. I mean, I can go into so many different things, even macros, using food as medicine. Obviously, food is a huge component of what I am educated on and what I can teach.
Speaker 1:And then, as far as also I love that because we I was talking to somebody the day and I'm like I think it was my doctor, but I was like I'm just retraining myself to spend more time on food because it's like we've gotten more and more and more into the habit of spending as minimal amount of time on food. Like grab a protein bar and it's like I know 1000% protein bars don't make me feel good, they don't help with my energy. I mean I'm filling my body with protein but probably no vitamins, minerals, no, like nuts, I'm pretty sure like it increases my inflammation, like I'm pretty sure they're pretty trashy for me. I mean I can feel it now right, but I came from like a fitness and wellness background and it was a lot of protein powder and all kinds of stuff. So, but I, but even like with like we do HelloFresh, which I love and it's fast, but my brain is like spend as little amount of time as possible, you don't have time for food.
Speaker 1:And I think that's part of the mind shift is like actually it's super normal and really important, that like that should be a huge section of your day, and that's. A lot of people are like I just want to stop thinking about food, I want to stop dieting and like I feel like thinking about food in a way that's like am I going to prepare it and what is it going to taste like and what do I need in the house can be so different than diet mentality and if we allocated more time, we would all be feel so much better, and even emotionally I mean definitely emotionally yeah, so that makes sense. That's such a huge section of what you teach.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I am not a diet, or absolutely not, like I do not, because it again holistic, whole body, whole lifestyle, like nobody's going to be on a diet, a strict diet for their life. It's more just about the education. Yeah, it's, it's a big, it's a big component. What do you?
Speaker 1:think about that, like people spending more time on just fine food, preparing their food Like. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:I'm like so passionate about that, about just getting back to our roots. Really. I think it's so healing and so restorative to just try as best you can to get back to your roots, like think about I don't know. I like to think about two, 300 years ago, like our ancestors. Like what did they do? They literally went out and like forage for their food and farmed and picked all their fresh food and like eating was so such a social thing and they spent every dinner together as a family or on their table that they had like gone and milked their cow. I mean just the whole scenario of it. It's like obviously we're not going to get back to that on a like whole societal level, but getting as close as we can, we've gotten so disconnected and so far away from the whole food aspect of yeah, I really have.
Speaker 2:It's like, we're so like like the mindset plays such a big, big role in this, because you're, you're right, you're exactly right, and what we're going to get nowadays is what's the fastest, what's the cheapest, what's the easiest, like we just want everything so like instantaneously easy and cheap, and it's like, and we don't feel like it's a valuable place to spend our time, like right Like it's more valuable to get your kids to soccer than to spend time making food.
Speaker 1:And maybe we need to shift that priority a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yep, and that that is exactly the mindset thing. It's like, yeah, nobody's asking you to like change overnight, but like, just really kind of take a an inventory of, like, what are your priorities? Why do you feel this way about food? Why is it such a burden to prioritize a slow cooked meal? Or you know, like what are we prioritizing over that when? When you think about food as medicine and I go into this a lot with the coaching is, and not just food as medicine, but food as like a healing, enjoyable thing and not just like something to grab and stuff in our face as fast as we can Like it. There's so many components of why that's important and it's not just like to help us be skinnier or what. Like you know, it's just so much. Yes.
Speaker 1:I know that's like the huge shift for, like modern society is who makes this batter? Food makes a skinny. Yeah, and it's like oh much more than that, so much more, which I think makes it so much easier to eat a balanced diet when we just like appreciate what food does for us. Yeah, it makes sense. If you're putting in your body all day long, it makes sense that you'd want to spend time on it and that it would be medicine or it would be maybe the cause of a lot of our ailments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I go into ways of like how, how do I make it? I mean, you still do want to make it easier and convenient as possible, and so there are definitely tricks and and tips that I can share with people.
Speaker 1:But I love the mindset of like being like it's okay to spend, you know, part of your day thinking about spending time creating shopping, like actually that's a great way to spend your time, and but I love that you also paired that with giving them quick ways to do it. Like let's slow down our mindset and increase, you know, like the way we create healthy food, I guess. Yeah, and find that middle meeting ourselves where we are kind of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because things I mean it doesn't have to be complex, but it can still yeah, still important, I think. So that, yeah, that's kind of the first pillar. And then the second one is fitness and because and so all five of these things are so, so, so intertwined and so important. It's not just focus on one and your life's going to get better, like you kind of, you do have to look at a whole lifestyle approach. So the second one is fitness, and I will kind of talk about how much, what types to focus on, based on different goals, things like that. And then sleep. Sleep often gets overlooked a lot when it comes to health, and sleep is so important. So I'll go over sleep hygiene, the quality, quantity, the environment to help with sleep all of that good stuff.
Speaker 1:I love that you brought up sleep, because that's just so massive. I it's just. The one thing I've noticed with teenagers is that I'm trying to take inventory of my life 10 years ago and even like my life as a teenager, and I don't care if it sounds old school to my kids, like they're like my kids will be like you don't understand.
Speaker 1:Life is so different. Now, like that's ridiculous to try to make it like that. And I'm like actually it's not because I think it was. I was clear minded when you know, I made these and it really stood out to me the other day, cause I told my son like we make decisions ahead of time because that's our higher brain, but also because it makes it so much easier in the moment to be like no, I already made this decision and I realized that I had made decisions for my kids when they weren't even born yet, like I'm not going to do this.
Speaker 1:My kids and then, as they got older and they were like begging me for things like phones or you know different stuff, you notice that you given. But some of those decisions I made were not based on you know what I really thought was best. It was based on like how do I get you to stop asking? Or maybe they're right, maybe if every single kid has a phone, that there's a way to do it right. So we've had to like really rewind, which is way harder than not doing it in the first place.
Speaker 1:And so the reason I'm talking about phones here is I remember when I never took a phone to bed and now it's like totally calm. I mean, I remember literally being like oh yeah, we should definitely put our phones like in a basket when we come home and leave it. Now it's like glued to my hand and it would be so strange to all of us to be like put your phone in a basket and don't not the kids they got there's plugged in on the counter, but mine, because it's like while we're watching TV I'm like buying something on Amazon that we need or I'm putting in the grocery list, but it's like, you know, maybe these things have become habits or something we want to like look, explore a little and be like hey, you know, and I that's definitely affected my sleep.
Speaker 1:And we've definitely created habits of sleep, which is one of the major reasons I gained like I don't know how much weight like 80 pounds between 2020 and 2022. And I got really sick and always autoimmune issues. But sleep is a huge thing now, as I'm trying to like get my health back, is that when I sleep, my weight comes down, my inflammation goes away, like it just has such a huge impact on how I feel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, sleep is huge. It's like so overlooked and it's almost like it's almost trendy. I feel like to be like oh, I'm functioning, I'm so little sleep, I need my key in the morning. It's like a funny thing. But I'm like it's not actually that funny Like we need to like that busy mom badge of honor.
Speaker 1:I feel like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, it's exactly it. And I mean, you think about? There's very few things that our bodies require every single day and sleep is one of them. Like, like, think about how important that is, that every 24 hours or I mean less than that like we need sleep we're sleeping for a third of our life and it's because it's so restorative, and so I'll go into the why and educate and stuff like what's happening in our body when we sleep, and because I think that the education of it is just so important and really prioritizing that like it's not, it's not a luxury, it shouldn't sleep is not a luxury.
Speaker 1:Like, yes, we need to make sure to say that, yeah, sleep is not a luxury. That's a good. No, yeah, sleep is not a luxury. I'm literally writing it down it's a requirement yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so the last two pillars, the environmental factors. So this one is everything in your environment that contributes to your health, so things like your beauty and cleaning products, your air quality, your kitchen utensils and things that you're cooking with and using every day, things like that. I go into a lot of product quality and why that affects our health and why it's so important. You know, the typical thing off the top of my head is things like plastics and why those are kind of harmful and easy swaps to make, and I give lots and lots of examples of things to swap out that are pretty easy. And then the last one is alternative healing methods. This is a huge one and I'm so passionate about it because this is making use of things like chiropractic care, ice baths, sauna, red light therapy, meditation, things like that that helps support our body when it comes to healing or preventative care.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's, it's preventative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's preventative and it is just so healing. There's like and again, this is all scientific, but what I like to call godly science yeah, not because this has been around since the beginning of time. Things like this, like people went outside barefoot and grounded all the time. They just didn't have a word for it. And yet we've just gotten so far disconnected from things like this and like, when you introduce it, it does tend to get that vibe of like the woo, woo, so weird. That's not typical, but I'm like no, but it really is. Like this is, this is what our bodies need, and we just don't do it anymore.
Speaker 1:So I feel really passionate about teaching that fast-paced life of like medicine is so much easier to take than just sit and do like essentially in like what we expect of ourselves and like now email is used to send like a quick one liner and you expect something to get back to you on that one line email. And I remember in college somebody did that and I was like I was a visiting teaching companion or something. I was like what is it? Of course I'm not going to see it. It's in my email like text me, like I'm checking my email like once a week. Now it's like I have to check my email like two times a day at least connected, it's because yes, because every modality of communication is like, well, you should see that right now.
Speaker 1:I mean people even will be like I saw you read my texts and you didn't get back to me, like you left me on red. That's the thing my kids taught me. They left me on red right. Like I mean like we have nothing else going on in our lives except for to respond to other people's. I don't know timeline of life. So, yeah, it's the slower paced and they're tried and true, they're scientific, they've worked for a really long time. It's just not medication. But sometimes, when this is funny and I'm sharing all these things because it makes podcasts so much more fun than but like I, let's see, bachelor in Paradise is like my vice, like I love that show.
Speaker 2:I know I love it. You like it too, okay.
Speaker 1:So actually, like it's not too raunchy, so like at all, like they don't. They don't show a bunch of makeup sessions, it's all right, but this season, like she's she's got like a five pound poop baby, basically that she cannot go to the bathroom and he's like we're gonna have to deliver. Did you see?
Speaker 2:this. When I watched that, I was just like screaming and like she needs like health, like well that's. I was like give her an Anna, give the girl some magnesium. Like make sure she's getting the cyber. I'm like what is going on? Oh my gosh, summer we need a watch party because that is too funny.
Speaker 1:I was freaking out my daughter's like why are you losing it? I was like, how could they're? Just like the giving her laxatives and all these things. I'm like, and even one of the guys there like gives does enemas for a living and I was like how come no one's offered her like an enema or like, like you said, magnesium, all these things, and it's just. It kind of cracks me up. But yeah, I love that you saw it, because they're like, if you don't, you know, give birth to this.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to give you this surgery and like but how cute was her boyfriend who's like, we're going to birth this baby together.
Speaker 2:Well, and I actually loved it because they were doing like different positions and different movements and stuff. I'm like, yes, that's what you should be doing. Yeah, do the squats, do the like, yeah, okay. So as, a host.
Speaker 1:the situation is now. I'm going to ask you about a few things and I want you to give your quick response of what, if you yeah, if you subscribe to them or not? Okay, what do you think about hot works like working out in a sauna?
Speaker 2:Um, working out in a sauna. I've never done it. Saunas are incredible, though, so I would say off the top of my head that it would be good, but I would assume, not for a long period of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're very short classes.
Speaker 2:Saunas are absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1:What are the benefits of an infrared sauna?
Speaker 2:Of an infrared sauna or just a regular, I believe so An infrared sauna so an infrared sauna.
Speaker 2:I mean, then you're dealing with the infrared light as well, so you're kind of it's like a double whammy. So infrared is extremely healing. It's like very healing to the mitochondria in our cells switcher, like the powerhouse of the cells. So that's where red light is like the best thing for. I mean for anything. Red light is incredible for for skin, for like cold sores, for viruses, for like it's incredible. And then sauna, just the heat aspect of it is okay. Have you ever seen the show limitless on Disney plus?
Speaker 1:No, oh yes, I have a few episodes with that really cute guy, Chris please, Thor, I mean Chris, please Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give all your listeners a homework assignment to go watch it, because it's so good and I do love watching the mindset aspect is below.
Speaker 1:It blows my mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and he like, goes and like explores the these different modalities of healing essentially, and one of them is sauna and he goes into all the science behind it and how like there's all these studies of how even just like 10 minutes in the sauna I don't know if it was a per day or per week, but it like the longevity it adds on to your life Wow, it's like incredible and it's like anybody can go sit in a sauna. Like that's not even working out or anything, and that's actually what I challenge.
Speaker 1:And I feel like people go to the gym. Sometimes, like when I was having a lot of autoimmune issues, I would get to the gym and I cry and be like I can't even go inside with so much pain. And then I had a thought like well, I could at least go in and like sit in the sauna, not knowing that it was beneficial, kind of feeling like a lazy person. But like what if it was better than a workout and you're sweating?
Speaker 2:and you're detoxing and you're causing all this inflammation in your body, but it's good inflammation and so you're. You're actually when you're sick. So if you feel yourself getting sick, a really cool trick is to get yourself in a sauna for like 10 minutes or so, or a super hot bath or something that's going to like heat up your body and your body is going to produce all these white blood cells because it's trying to fight this inflammation that you're heating up and then immediately go into an ice bath or like a super cold shower, because what that does is it's going to like, basically like suck all those white blood cells into your core and it's so like it's like a jam packed like immune booster. It's really cool.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's really cool, he and cold are very, very healing, very cool. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, that's the second thing I want. So I had a hot works membership and then I really want an ice bath, so but I thought, maybe not right before winter, like maybe before summer, I can get into it while it's warm outside. So I'm not, like you know, so cold.
Speaker 2:It's a good way to start it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay. What are your thoughts on enemas? We just mentioned them, but like coffee enemas, there's a company called the happy bumco that my brother loves, so what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:So coffee enemas I actually just listened to a whole podcast on these recently. I'm a big fan. I think there's so many really really cool health benefits to coffee enemas. I've never tried one yet, but yes, I and I I'm not an expert on these, on coffee enemas, so I'm not sure that is one modality of healing that I still have to explore a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But as far as so, are you asking about regular enemas too, or just Sure yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Regular.
Speaker 2:Regular enemas are a different, a whole different story, because usually it's because you're extremely constipated, and that is a whole different issue. I would look at why you're constipated and how to.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like that's how you solve it right then, but not not how you treat the root cause of it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we're loving more of like a fiber issue, and yeah, Is it true that?
Speaker 1:so my doctor said the other day that fiber kind of works both ways. So it's really well like it. If you're, if your stool is too tough, it helps. If your stool is too loose, it helps. Yeah, Is that the case with fiber?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Because fiber is essentially what gives us the right consistency. Okay, also, everything move and it's also feeding all the good bacteria in your gut, which is helping with digestion, because you're usually, when you're constipated, you're not digesting things properly and the gut and your or the the bacteria in your gut are not strong enough to be absorbing the right things, and so it causes all that in in faction anyway.
Speaker 1:Right, right, okay. The last thing is what are some known neurotoxins that well, that you know are neurotoxins that maybe a lot of people aren't aware of, but they're consuming?
Speaker 2:Well, I would say probably the largest one is gluten. I kind of touched on that to gluten and then all the heavy metals that are in our lifestyle, but gluten gluten is a big one and it's the way that our gluten is processed here in America, specifically the glyphosate that they spray on on wheat, basically like mutates the wheat, and it makes the gluten, the protein and the wheat extremely inflammatory and it causes a ton of inflammation in the brain and not necessarily the gluten itself, it's the way we treat it, it's the way that we process our wheat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you'll hear of like a lot of people who will travel, say, to like Europe or something, where they they process it completely differently and they won't have any issues. So people who are like gluten intolerant, gluten sensitive, will go over there and they will eat like the bread or something in Europe and have zero issues with it. And it's very interesting because, yeah, in America, that we just, we just spray the crap out of our wheat.
Speaker 1:Why do you spray the wheat with that Glyphosate?
Speaker 2:So glyphosate is? It helps mature the wheat faster and then it dries it all out so that it's basically so that we can farm it in mass production, and so it's dehydrating the wheat faster and, but, yeah, preserves it. And and I just lost my train of thought I do this all the time.
Speaker 1:Oh the glyphosate.
Speaker 2:That's what I was talking about. Yeah, the glyphosate is, so it's a weed killer. That's why it was that we spray it on all of our weeds and stuff. So when you go outside you see like all the little blue circles, the patches of blue in the rocks and stuff. That's the weed killer that we're spraying on our wheat to dry it out, to process it faster.
Speaker 1:Okay, I love that you said that, because I know there's all these other things that are neurotoxins, but it's like there's probably a few, just big, simple ones, that we consume so much gluten that that's probably a simple one, yeah gluten is a simple one and I know people a lot of the pushback that you get from that is like, well, wheat is in everything, like literally gluten is in everything.
Speaker 2:But nowadays, I feel like, because there are so many people who are in who are sensitive to gluten or with celiacs or any of that, there are so many alternatives and it's so easy to find.
Speaker 1:And I never went down like the gluten-free bread. I maybe bought like a loaf or two, but I wasn't super excited about it Honestly, there's so many other when I stopped thinking that everything had gluten in it instead just was like, what else do I eat? Yeah, honestly, it just I just bread is just not in my and I love bread just like anybody else. When you go to Cheesecake Factory and all that stuff that when you have it before your meal, but people are like I could never imagine my life without bread and it's like I just feel like rice, there's like chickpea pasta, there's like a lot of like rice cakes, and I mean there's just so many things. There's so much that aren't made of wheat too that I don't think people realize that they might even already be eating that are already in their pantry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've been eating gluten-free for like five years now and it's, I mean for the most part. My husband and I will sometimes have it, but it's it's so much simpler now than it was even five years ago, like it's not even a big deal. And again, that just goes along with the mindset thing too, of like, instead of thinking like oh, like there's so much I can't eat, it's like but, oh, but there's so much you can like there is, there's so much. And when you focus on like the whole foods, it's it opens up your whole intact.
Speaker 1:It really does. Yeah, I feel I feel so much better when I notice I've had a lot of fruits and vegetables that day, just whole foods, just real food. I feel like my, my joint pain goes down, my mood goes up, like everything is correlated. One neurotoxin that really I only know about it because it really bothers me, like it makes me super sick, is I think it's the Asper team in crystallite.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like with my babies, I would drink so much crystallite and I was going P like 24 seven because it's also a diuretic right. It makes you go to the bathroom. Yeah, like on top of you have a baby sitting on your bladder. So I didn't know that either, and also it gave me crazy migraines. I didn't know any of this until like years later. Yeah, and it's. It's something that like, like things like that that are out there that you probably would notice, because you probably don't feel good after you eat them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, aspartame is probably one of the worst like artificial sweeteners that you could be consuming and unfortunately, yeah, I know right For those type of lovers. I know I'm like, oh, I know I'm so sorry, but it's in there.
Speaker 1:You know what a good swap is, isn't it like? Is it Poppy, or what's the one I'm thinking of?
Speaker 2:the other one, poppy and Oli pop.
Speaker 1:I actually love the pop.
Speaker 2:And I, yeah. So this is what I'm talking about, with like little swaps, like you don't have to just give up your soda if you don't want to. There are so many good alternatives nowadays. Yeah, like it helps food stores. There's so many soda alternatives. And Oli pop is amazing because it's it's actually like a probiotic drink and it's all made of plants and it's yeah, they're incredible, yeah.
Speaker 1:So now I would say allocate a little bit more money to food versus other things, because you know it's so healing and it makes it more fun. Like, yeah, I know it's expensive to shop at Whole Foods, but if you go in there then it's like eating healthy is really exciting and fun, because it's like you know, or Trader Joe's or I mean it's fun and then you have a whole store of stuff that you know is going to be like nourishing to you and not just like going to Walmart and picking through their very limited options or something, and I'm such a Walmart shopper, but my, my, uh, what's that called my like produce is always so bad for me.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say and you can definitely find stuff at Walmart. I'm not saying I'm just saying if you're, if you're wanting, if it's overwhelming to you and you feel like there's no option and the swaps are easy. A different store makes a huge difference to it. It does, it does.
Speaker 1:OK, this was so Illuminating. So much good information. I am so excited for people to be able to watch your class. I think it's going to be available within the next like two to three weeks. So if you guys want to come and watch summer's class which is going to be the five lifestyle changes you didn't know what improve your mood, she's going to dive a little deeper on some specific things in each of these pillars and you guys are going to get to have some action. So I think you have even like a swap list that you're creating. Yes, OK.
Speaker 2:Like Amazon. Product list Yep.
Speaker 1:OK, I love it. Oh, we love an Amazon product list because links right. Ok, so you guys have to click the link that will be coming. It'll be in future episodes. We'll put a link to summer's class, as well as on Instagram under limitless female. If you guys want to learn more about summer right now, where can they find you?
Speaker 2:So I mostly am on Instagram right now. That's where I post a lot of my educational stuff. My Instagram handle is the whole summer, so it's the period, whole period, summer.
Speaker 1:OK, I love that. That was super cute too, and I saw that, which is OK. Girl, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for having me.