Youth Ministry Camp Brain, Binders, & the Post-Camp Blues

The emotional marathon of summer camp affects every youth minister differently. Whether you're riding high on spiritual victories, nursing wounds from what felt like failure, or simply exhausted beyond words, this episode offers genuine encouragement for wherever you find yourself.

Zach and Chad dive into their contrasting pre-camp experiences - one fueled by caffeine-like excitement, the other weighed down by planning anxiety. They share practical wisdom about externalizing your plans (either in meticulously organized binders or digital systems) to create both present peace and future efficiency.

Camp Brain, Binder Blues, & the Post-Camp Fog

It's that time of year—when youth pastors everywhere go from pre-camp jitters to post-camp exhaustion in just five sleepless days! In this episode, Chad and Zac take you on the emotional rollercoaster known as Summer Camp Season. Buckle up, it's a wild ride full of excitement, duct tape, and probably at least one crying senior guy.

🛠️ IN THIS EPISODE:

• 😅 Pre-Camp Vibes: Why some of us are Camp Keeners and others are... Camp Avoiders.
• 📓 Binder or iPad?: Getting organized (yes, your spreadsheets can be holy).
• 🧠 Document the Madness: Future you will thank you for writing it down now.
• 🙏 The Power of Presence: How to be spiritually available between cabin wars and snack bar runs.
• 🛏️ The Three Faces of Post-Camp: Euphoria, Disappointment, and “Please let me sleep forever.”
• 📋 Wrap It Up, Don’t Leave It Hanging: Final reports > mental “I’ll do it next week.”
• 🌿 True Rest: How not to burn out your soul on the altar of “just one more game.”
• 🗣️ Multiple Takes Matter: Debriefing with your team so the loudest voice isn’t the only voice.

This is the Summer Camp Survival Guide your soul needed. It's honest, a little chaotic, and fully soaked in sunscreen and sanctification.

Whether you're preparing for camp, in the thick of it, or recovering from it, this episode provides the encouragement that you're not alone in this emotional journey. 

Share your camp stories with us on social media or email us at podcast@youthministrybooster.com!

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:19

A snack, did it for the city, chad, higgins, everybody, we back, we back, we back. We winners too, we back, we winners represent.

Speaker 2 0:27

Yeah, buddy uh, for you guys that don't know, we had to record two intros for this.

Speaker 1 0:32

We are, um, uh, we both live in oklahoma yeah, baby and if you follow basketball professional basketball, because we all follow college basketball, because we're humans I don't, but you, you get right out of my garage.

Speaker 2 0:49

I'm sorry, I apologize. Um, yeah, our oklahoma city thunder. We want it all.

Speaker 1 0:54

We are champions put it on for the very first time in all of recorded history, the oklahoma city thunder have brought home the gold um, sorry about you, seattle um as that yeah, I apologize, zombie sonics. Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 2 1:11

Zombie sonics I've never heard of.

Speaker 1 1:14

Oh, you have. That was like when they first came. That was one of the big shirts. That was like the underground shirt. That was really popular um was. It had the sonic logo but it had had like a zombie apocalypse, whatever thing. It was really cool. Anybody's got the Sean Kemp zombie Sonics jersey.

Speaker 2 1:30

I'm here for it, Let me know, let me know, did you get to go to any?

Speaker 1 1:33

games. This year we did man, so we went a couple regular season games. We did not get to go deep into the postseason run, but we did get to go to one of the Memphis games. It was the game after they routed them by 50 points, so it was a little easier to get the tickets, but the boys and I did get to go. We do have shirts, because that's the big thing. Thunder fans are the best, thunder sponsors are awesome. Every home game in the postseason, every chair got a shirt. So we have the shirts, the blue thunder playoff shirts, um, from when we were there and did the thing I bet your boys just like, ate that up.

Speaker 1 2:13

Oh, they did. Well, the shirts are xl, so they, they will eat them up. It's just a thing that they do. But, um, dude, we jerseied out, we cheered like our. My boys haven't been on a regular sleep schedule this summer because we've been up and excited like it was one of those like it's like, we're not gonna miss this, we're not gonna put you to bed in the third quarter because this is too fun and too exciting and so it's good so so you know, next time yeah I'm sorry to tell you this now.

Speaker 2 2:39

I wish I would. I wish I would have known. Oh gosh, your section will have an attendant. If you would go to the attendant and tell them the size you need, they will go get you the correct size Even kid sizes.

Speaker 1 2:53

Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, sorry, sorry, what a jerk, oh gosh, Don't hoard knowledge friends.

Speaker 2 3:02

It's one of those things that you don't know because they're not going to tell everybody, because they don't, they can't do it for everybody.

Camp Season Feelings and Preparation

Speaker 1 3:07

Okay, but if you know they'll get you, they'll get you up and if you don't know now you know, so that's good, okay, uh, we wanted to talk today. Um, first of all, so good to have you back. Thanks, buddy. There's a lot that we'll catch up on over the summer of just some big, exciting things and changes in life stuff, and so thank you for our friends that have been with us, patient, listening, connecting, messaging, thank you for all the things. But we're excited for a brand new season of Booster, because we're in a brand new season of summer and for a lot of folks, we wanted to talk about with some urgency and immediacy the ways you may be feeling this summer and maybe give you some encouraging stories to hear and stories to tell, because if it hasn't been true, it's about to be true, at least for almost every youth ministry that I know At some point this summer you are about to go away for a few days on some kind of trip or mission, or, chad, say it with me camp, that's right, we're about to be at camp.

Speaker 1 4:07

Either you're at camp right now listening, and you're like it's almost over, or you just got back and you're like I'm so tired, or it's looming hanging over me. But one of the most time-honored and rightfully so. Chad can disagree later. Traditions of student ministry is a multi-day away chance to retreat, connect, serve and do, to make faith have feet, and so we love it for what it is. You may be feeling a certain way about it now, but we want to talk about how it's making us feel and maybe the ways in which those feelings could be categorized, organized and directed. And so, chad, tell us a little more what you're thinking about, how camp gets you in a certain kind of way.

Speaker 2 4:50

Well, so I want to know, I want to talk about feelings, because one of the things that we want to do in this podcast, and we've done for many, many years, is we—.

Speaker 1 5:01

Ten years this fall. Wow, we've got more coming. There's a lot of catch-up work to do over the summer but ten years this fall.

Speaker 2 5:13

But we really want to talk about man. What is our response as ministers in this? Because ministry is more than just the how-to checklist, those type of things. We are affected by these. We are affected by these and so I want us to talk through how we feel post, during, after camp, because everybody's different. You're going to deal with camp different than I deal with camp and our listeners and we always love hearing from you guys. So feel free, reach out, shoot us a message on social media Tell us what we got right and wrong.

Speaker 2 5:44

If you have our numbers, text us. We want to know how do you currently feel this summer.

Speaker 1 5:51

This is like a Facebook status update. How are you feeling? Leave an emoji and a song, exactly.

Speaker 2 5:56

All right, so Zach yes For you.

Speaker 1 5:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2 6:00

Pre-camp Pre-camp. What are the emotions happening for you In just a normal summer as a student minister? What is happening in your belly pre-camp.

Speaker 1 6:12

I am all kinds of excited, I'm all kinds of hurried. I'm all kinds of harried because I want it to be right, perfect, excellent. So this is I've gotten better over the years of doing the important stuff as early as possible, but it still is never going to take away that 72 hours before of if we need to stay up a little late. One more Walmart run. I mean, we got in the habit of going down on the like the Sunday before the Monday to do all the setup work because we want it to not just be like when, when camp starts, we want it to be ready, and so there's a lot of just that like I don't know. It's the feeling you feel when you like are like knowingly over caffeinated and you're like I only had my usual amount, but like it's just the natural, the natural excitement hit, coupled with the coffee and the Red Bull that just really got you flying.

Speaker 2 7:08

Amazing yeah, Mine completely different. Like could not be more different. Mine is a feeling of dread, okay.

Speaker 1 7:20

I'm trying to jump, I'm trying to push the train. You're like the train's coming to hit me.

Speaker 2 7:24

Yes, I can't see it in the distance. It's just getting bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 7:30

I can't stop it. I just I worry, I'm sorry, I just have this image of like you looking over to your shoulder and being like here it comes. It is man Just deadpan like this, is it? But I'm like that with almost everything.

Speaker 2 7:49

I'm going to worry, worry, worry. I'm going to overthink it about 900 times. I'm probably going to change my theme a few times. You know, not that close to camp, but I'm going to wrestle with it for a while.

Speaker 1 8:03

And so.

Speaker 2 8:03

I'm still in the process of that. I'm going to be thinking about one more thing to add, um, all of that kind of stuff, and so that's normally how I am as far as like internal thought, like those kinds of things. Um, I'm building up PDF documents after PDF documents, cause that's how I I roll, okay.

Speaker 1 8:26

Um, just documenting the dread Well, or say more about what you're documenting. This is something like cause I live on to do list and I feel like this is one of our functional differences that we both have our ways of expressing it. But I feel like you're like, what you're putting down on paper is maybe a little bit different.

Speaker 2 8:44

Yeah, so camp for me is all about a folder, which most things in ministry were for me.

Speaker 1 8:49

Okay.

Speaker 2 8:49

Okay, see, I'm clipboard, it's all just— how do you have enough—my clipboard couldn't open enough.

Speaker 1 8:54

It's like a flipbook.

Speaker 2 8:59

And that explains a lot. So for mine, I'm going to buy one of those three to five inch uh folders okay I'm gonna have the files in it and then tabbed, of course tabbed of course, and then we're gonna begin to kind of build out camp in that okay I'm gonna have concepts of themes, I'm gonna have everything for small group leaders, we're gonna have a section for, like uh nights, rec, all of those budgeting, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 9:31

So everything's going to work off of that, that, that folder. For me, even though everything's on my computer, the physical thing allows me to almost like it becomes the checkbox. Okay, so once it's done it joins the the folder. So now I've got all of like my small group guides, I've got parent communication, all of that kind of stuff, and so it builds into that folder and then I can run copies and all that kind of stuff yeah uh, it also allows me because it's hard to give somebody access on on your computer to stuff and so like.

Speaker 2 10:08

If I have like small group leader, I'm able to hand them.

Speaker 1 10:11

Here's everything that we've already got on it, and so that was just how I functioned, Love it Well and again, I think that's one of the important parts of the pre-feeling is is is having places that you're anchoring.

Different Pre-Camp Emotions

Speaker 1 10:27

however, you're feeling that's one of the things that's so important is is having it either in whether it's a cloud folder, a dropbox folder, where everything goes in everybody's contributing to, or if you're on, like you know, click up or mondaycom, that things are just like clicking and going and doing, like to-do list. Or if you're old school and it is like handwritten clipboard to-do list stuff and like things are being divvied up like whatever it is, like you have to. You have to anchor either the excitement or the dread, or else it's all just hanging around above you in a cloud and not like the good kind of like dropbox cloud, but like in a like in an anxiety cloud and that's where. So, if you haven't gone yet as much as you can get out of you and put somewhere else. I think it's so, so, very important.

Speaker 1 11:14

And some of this you probably are already doing. But the thing that not enough folks do until later that if you can catch earlier the better is to have it in a way that's repeatable enough that when this inevitably happens next year, like even if it is Chad's four-inch, three-inch binder tome, you can pull off 2025 off the shelf. It's a 2026. At least the baseline of that dread was documented.

Speaker 2 11:39

Oh, the vast majority of my camp would already be done because I had that folder, and so I'm able to just go all right, I need to recreate. These are the documents that I need to recreate, and then I know I'm going to have a good camp.

Speaker 1 11:51

Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 11:52

And you know, here are the processes. That's good. I love the idea of getting it out of your head, yeah, because I think, whether it is overexcitement or stress, like if you're in that spot right now, right, if you're, if camp for you doesn't happen until end of July, early August, and you're still in the midst of that, that would be the recommendation that we have of getting it out of your head, even on paper, if you do computer that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 12:21

But the more things that you have just rolling around your head of like to-dos we become, more things that you have just rolling around in your head of like to do's, we become overwhelmed. In that, and that's actually where procrastination often happens for guys is when we feel overwhelmed. It's like I don't know where to start, so I'm not going to start at all, yeah.

Speaker 1 12:38

Well it's. It's the line that we've come back to multiple times. If you spend more time thinking about what you're going to do than doing it, then that's actually what's making you anxious, like. Like, thinking about what needs to be done is not the same as getting the work done and it's occupying time, energy that could be deployed put towards getting the stuff done. Or and this is the part that I want to get to, when you're actually at camp, being ready enough personally to be present, both in preparedness, leadership, planning, programming, and spiritually and emotionally grounded, anchored. That you are present.

Speaker 1 13:31

Like this is. It is a big deal for so many reasons, for the number of students and hours and engagement and rhythms and meals and community, which means pastorally, ministerially, you need to be present enough that you aren't looking for ways to jump out of conversation or you aren't looking for ways to wrap everything up really quickly. Like this is. This is what we prepared for. Like this is the thing. And so those sidebar moments, those connecting the student and the leader, those follow-up conversations from a small group that were really heavy or hard for your adult who has like they're in, but that was a lot. Like this is the things and like to feel that burden is important.

Speaker 1 14:19

It is, and it's not that you're the only one that can do, but this is a shining moment for you to be ready enough to do, and I think, just like the years at camp, when I was at camp that I didn't feel like I was there and I didn't really have like a grounded sense of where I was, even in the middle of camp, for when there's like quiet time to be had or personal devotion time to be had, and you're like now I'm going to skip it Cause I've got like you need all the things that you plan for your students you need. You need the meal, the hydration, the nap break, the enjoyment, wreck time, the funny moment, like you should be present enough to participate in the thing that you work so hard to create.

Speaker 2 15:02

So, yeah, I think that's good being present. I'd encourage you if you're about to head to camp next week and you're just thinking about being present, one of the things that I would really encourage you to do is take every opportunity that you have to pray with students and leaders.

Speaker 2 15:17

Yes, yes Like go out of your way, like I think them walking away with your students feeling like, okay, I've been in the word every day and I'm learning to pray, like those are. Those are things that we want to instill in students' lives and I think, as a leader, so much happens at camp between the moments that I think, when we can, we can start to help these students realize, like, how do we live our life outside of camp? And so, like, pray with your students before you head to rec.

Speaker 2 15:48

Like those type of things that are in between, but you're teaching them how to hopefully live their life.

Speaker 1 15:54

Actually, the mundane moments are probably some of the most important because, yes, it's hard to gather with multiple churches for a big rec afternoon or a big worship night, but talking about what God's doing in their life over breakfast is something that could happen at home, praying with their adult leader before they go into worship. So everybody is like mind is right and we're like acknowledging each other in tune to like what's going on. Sure, there's like that's, that's feasible for home.

Speaker 2 16:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:23

Like, and that's one of the things that like. That's that's feasible for home. Yeah, like, and that's one of the things that like. Yeah, I love the hype of camp and energy. Like that's how your boy is wired, but when again, we've talked about this before.

Speaker 1 16:31

My favorite things are the communal aspects of like we're all here doing our quiet time and then we're just sharing yeah or we we had meals and like our phones were off and so we were talking and it's like these, like lived and shared experiences, that we had to go to camp to realize how important they were so that theoretically, we would bring them back home. Yeah, like the idea of like a small group having a meal together and talking about what God's doing in their life, like sometimes it took a lot of money and a lot of energy to get that at camp and pastorally, for you to point out like we could do that on Wednesday too.

Speaker 2 17:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 17:05

Like we could do this around a pizza box as much as we could do it around a cafeteria slot pile all right.

Being Present During Camp

Speaker 2 17:11

So campus happened. There are three new emotions that could be present. Um one yeah your team just won the championship yeah, parade, baby and you're happy. Uh, the second emotion what?

Speaker 1 17:26

if, what if, coming home from camp, somebody knew it was going to be so good that they wrapped the buses? I mean, what would it be to wrap them?

Speaker 2 17:33

charter buses like yeah, good, as much as charter buses cost these days they should.

Speaker 1 17:39

They should come wrapped, actually, that's right um, all right, so we won.

Speaker 2 17:44

The champions won a motion. Chip a motion. It's the best feeling. The other emotion camp why does God hate me that?

Speaker 1 17:59

could be an emotion. I'm serving out my justification right now.

Speaker 2 18:05

And then the third one that's probably real for both of those is I'm tired, yeah. So let's talk about if, if they're, if they're on cloud nine right now as a youth minister. Yeah, what would be some encouragement that you would give, in that feeling for the, the youth minister?

Speaker 1 18:22

um, document every ounce of it. Okay, if you are floating that, so it's again thunderstuff, whatever, like everybody's phones are out, because I don't want to forget this. Like it like, even even if it's, you don't have to post it, don't. Don't feel like, well, it's everything. Is not for social media, it's for you. It's for you.

Speaker 1 18:41

It's the photos and the videos you take that when you have a plane ride with no Wi-Fi or you are stuck on a long Zoom call for your seminary stuff, you're scrolling through and you're like it happened and that's the way that it happened. You need as many photos and stories, even if it's a video to yourself, of how you're feeling exactly in that moment, however good it is, it's the names, it's the stories, it's the happenings. Like, get as much of it out because it will fade. It will fade and then you'll forget and then it'll just be something that happened in the summer of I don't know a few years ago, and you will have forgotten that moment on the Thursday when this and this happened at the same time and it was unbelievable. But 10 years has passed and it just is one feeling and not all those little feelings and all those little moments Document it all.

Speaker 2 19:37

Document. It is really good because I would say for that person, if that's you, those are great Reconnects with students.

Speaker 2 19:45

Yeah you, uh, those are great reconnects for with students. Yeah, like the ability to text. Like you know, those five boys that I don't know, you know what I mean did this thing out at the lake or whatever at camp to shoot them that picture. Yeah, as a reminder, because we all have seen it. Man, students come back from camp, they get busy. There's always those one or two students that you're like this is the summer, they're finally going to connect and to continue to be able to re-engage them and reconnect, shooting them the picture, reminding them what happened. Those kind of things are just relational ways, yeah, to stay connected in those students life all right. So for the, for the folks that may be listening because they don't want to go into the office, yeah and camp was a bad train wreck, train wreck, never again.

Speaker 1 20:35

Yeah, never camp what are what's?

Speaker 2 20:37

uh, what? What are your thoughts there? It's not real, because we've been there and it doesn't mean you're a bad youth minister Like it sometimes it's just like it wasn't. There wasn't even like tragedy. It was a hard week and students didn't want to engaged and there was like trauma and all of this mess that felt like a big distraction.

Post-Camp Emotions

Speaker 1 21:02

Um, you may not be ready, but at some point you need to let somebody else narrate it too. You, you were too close to it, you put too much into it and were too close to it to be the sole author of the story. Okay, like, if you, you don't. You don't get to be the only one. Now I again have a day wallow, be sad, watch your favorite guilty pleasure movie or TV show or whatever. But you need to go ask other people how was camp for you? Because you already got a bottom and so you can't feel any worse. And so if they just said it was bad too, then we can just commiserate. You know what it was bad, but then you need to be open enough. And they were like no man, it was great that you can hear that too. Like you, you, you don't get to be the only filter for the experience. That it was Um, and you've got leaders that gave up their week of their life and vacation. You've got students that you know spent their parents hard earned money and if it was bad, it was bad and that's okay. Okay, like, like, all of ministry is batting averages like this is we, we, we step up, we try, we do, but I have a feeling that it wasn't all bad for everybody that went. I mean, if it was, then congratulations.

Speaker 1 22:17

You now have a whole book to write and it may be it may be that may be it that may be the story where everything went wrong, but I think if you could listen enough for other people's stories and narrations of what happened, because one of the worst mission trips that I ever took, like I, it was the only time.

Speaker 1 22:37

It's been long enough now and they're all grown adults. It was the only time I ever raised my voice at teenagers. I didn't say any words that I regret, but everything about how I address these mission trip kids in the moment and I've apologized to all of them since was wrong, but as part of their punishment for their dastardly behavior, is that we took their phones away and I had to deal with that with parents who were like I didn't know. Anyway, for the first time they started talking to each other because they had all been living in their own little island of whatever, and I regret what I said and I should have told their parents that we were going to take their phones and silence them because of whatever, but there were some friendships that were formed because they finally had to grit through it, even if I was the common enemy. That made it not an entire loss and I had to give it enough time to hear that that was actually the start of something. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 23:42

My encouragement, if you're feeling that way right now, is to start your 2026 folder.

Speaker 1 23:48

There you go, like from the pit of despair, the pit of despair will rise again.

Speaker 2 23:54

There's an evaluation, because I think a lot of people don't formally do like full evaluation of camp, but you're able to clearly identify what did not work right now. So if you're not going to get all of 2026 done, don't do that yet. But uh, start that that new folder and and and think through okay, what was bad? Hmm, man, we just did not have good group time, right, maybe that's it yeah so I would encourage you start thinking through okay, how do we make group time better?

Speaker 2 24:31

yeah and and start developing a plan in your group portion of your folder of when we need better questions. I need better leaders like yeah and so who are the? Who are the people that I already know? That, I think, would already have made it better, those type of things.

Speaker 1 24:48

Well, and hearing what you said, like not letting one feeling dominate, figure it out Like what? Where did it break down? Like you can't, you can't write it off as it didn't work or it was bad, like there was something in the sauce that didn't work. And if you can try to through planning or evaluation, figure out like hey, man it, it wasn't as good as it could have been, things didn't work. But can we figure out what happened? Like, where did it break down? Was it literally like the camp was so far away?

Speaker 1 25:15

By the time we got there, the kids were exhausted and it was no fun. Okay, that's a location change. Um, if it was man, like these kids kept arguing with each other well, were they well fed and hydrated? Were they exhausted? Like there's got to be something. There's got to be something there. Was there one leader that just kind of like wrecked shop relationally across the adult community, and maybe we did not ask him or her back, maybe there was a sore spot there. And being able to figure some of those things out Again. Maybe it won't happen the day after, but I love the thought of being future thinking and not just like wallowing.

Speaker 2 25:52

Well, and at some level, I think, when you're there, that's what the enemy is going to. It's going to start prodding you of, like you stink at this and all of those types of things, and I think the realization of student ministry doesn't happen in one week.

Speaker 1 26:10

Yeah, that's right.

Dealing With Camp Exhaustion

Speaker 2 26:11

And so in reminding yourself like we're going to do this again, yeah, and here's how it's going to be better. And you know? Because the reality is, if you've pulled off the perfect camp, like, hang it up, you're done, Because it's not happening again.

Speaker 1 26:25

If the thunder finished right now, I mean I get it right Like like the top of the world great season. Sga is kind of one basketball. Maybe he should be done.

Speaker 2 26:34

Yeah, um, whether it was good or bad, yeah, we probably feel tired.

Speaker 1 26:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:41

Um, what's some encouragement that you give to somebody who's already feeling that, feeling the way to fall? All of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 26:51

From my personal experience, and this is going to sound counterintuitive do anything but ministry, but do For at least me personally, no matter how tired you're feeling, whether it went well or didn't go well. You're right, chad, you're right, you're tired and you're more tired than you're willing to like know. So take the long nap, sleep in the next day, but then go do something that is selfishly, deliciously, delightfully good, that has nothing to do with your job title or position, if that's fishing or golfing or baking or traveling. Like. You need something else to replenish you, ideally something that either doesn't require you to make a lot of decisions or that something else could, somebody else could plan for you right, like this is not like I went from camp to mapping out, like a Six Flags Disney trip. Like this needs to be like, not automatic, but it needs to be something that's active.

Speaker 1 27:56

I think being so tired that I didn't want to do anything is a recipe for us to get into if we're feeling bad about it, a like dark spiral of thoughts, or even if things went really well.

Speaker 1 28:08

When you're riding that high to try to like meet and match, that's impossible. So to move in a different direction, like camp went so well, ministry's going great. I went fishing and it was quiet and I was alone and it was time, or I went with some buddies, or you know me and a couple of friends went and tried every coffee shop in our town. Like there was just there was something that we did that was fairly automatic. That like got us moving maybe in a different direction, because I think it's hard to check, because then you start chasing the like, the feeling after the feeling, and so I think having something and this is for other episodes in previous conversation the true sabbath delight, I think finding a way to delight and enjoy that would literally put something good back in you, because you have given so much to others. Yeah, and so what about you?

Speaker 2 28:58

um, in the same way that we talked about in the very beginning, getting it out of your head. Um, for I'm just gonna point my fingers at myself coming back from camp there was always those like one or two boxes that just got shoved in a corner. You know what I mean, um, and it was just like, because you're're tired, you're like I'm done. Yeah, I'll get to those later.

Speaker 1 29:25

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:26

But the reality is you're not like take a day whatever you need, don't let those just sit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like don't let those camp shirts sit in the corner of your office.

Speaker 1 29:41

You weren't going to make the quilt, don't worry about it. Correct.

Speaker 2 29:45

Get them out yeah like a little bit of it is moving on to next year. Yeah, moving on to the fall, because here's the deal fall is going to have its own t-shirts and it's going to have its own supplies and its own problems yes and so our procrastination brain will tell us we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 30:04

Yeah, just do it, let it go. Like there, there's a part of rest that if we're just like running from thing to thing, we're truly not like really resting. Letting go. Get the box out, put it in the correct place, finish. Finish the actual task, yeah, and then breathe, yeah, to realize like I am done is such a good feeling and then celebrate it.

Speaker 1 30:36

It is day six and we're about to walk into that day seven of the joy of creation. That's right. That's right, oh man, okay, good. So if you feel on top of the world, document it, write it down, record it, have it you're feeling at the bottom, evaluate it and plan it, and if you're tired and we know you're tired find a way to finish it and be filled, and that's our encouragement. For however you're feeling today, um, then we'll see you back next week.

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Talk a little bit more as we turn our eye to fall and we're going to be talking some stories about back to school. We'll see you then.

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