Does the idea of increasing your income ever make you feel uneasy, conflicted, or even guilty? What if, instead, you saw it as an act of faith, stewardship, and obedience to God’s calling?

Today we’re going to demystify wealth creation for pastors by exploring King Solomon’s wisdom to “Know the condition of your flocks,” found in Proverbs 27:23-27.

What does this ancient principle mean for pastors and churches today? We’ll discuss it in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let's get started.

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Does the offering moment in your church service feel a little stale or like a routine you just go through each week? What if it could be transformed into one of the most powerful parts of your service? We’ll share 3 ways to make offering moments matter more on this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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It's Dr. Martin Luther King Day, and I’m reminded of the incredible power of a dream. Dr. King’s life proves that one dream can transform lives, communities, and even nations. So, what about you? Do you have a dream inside you that’s big enough to change your world? And what lessons we can learn from Dr. King’s example about nurturing and pursuing our dreams? We’ll talk about that in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. 

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The term "passive income" gets thrown around a lot these days. From multi-level marketing schemes to starting small businesses, many things claim to be passive income but don’t quite fit the bill. So what is passive income? Why should pastors create their own passive income streams? And what are some of the best ways pastors can create passive income? We’ll talk about it in this episode of the More Than a Pastor show.

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Are you tired of spinning your wheels trying to build an online platform with little to no results? Trust me, I’ve been there. After years of trying to figure it out on my own, I finally found the clear roadmap, expert mentorship, and supportive community I needed to help me turn my ideas into real progress. And I found it all in Platform Launchers, hosted by John Stange.

If you’ve ever wondered whether joining Platform Launchers is worth it, I’ve got all the details you need to decide here in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

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Did you know you're probably just a few phone calls away from putting an extra $500-$1,000 or more in your pocket? All it takes is a couple of minutes and a little courage to call and negotiate or shop your bills like your insurance, credit card, TV, phone, and other subscriptions. We’ll explore the why and how in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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Is buying a home even an option for pastors anymore? With home prices soaring 50% over the last five years and salaries not keeping up, the dream of home ownership is slipping further out of reach. Today, we’ll break down why owning a home is harder than ever for pastors and how some are finding creative ways to make it work. 

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Are you a pastor looking for practical ways to grow giving in your church and engage those who rarely give or don’t give at all? You’re in the right place! In this post, I’ll share three powerful lessons pastors can learn from successful nonprofits—insights that can help you inspire generosity, build trust, and foster a culture of giving in your congregation.

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Are you a pastor thinking about starting your own business or side hustle to supplement - or even replace - your current ministry income, but you're not really sure if entrepreneurship is right for you?
 
Launching your own online message-based platform, a service-based business, or even a brick-and-mortar store, can be a fulfilling adventure that creates financial security for your family.

And while it’s never been easier to launch your own business, being your own boss definitely isn’t for everyone. So how do you know if starting a business or side hustle is right for you?

In today's episode we share 12 signs or traits that starting a business may be right for you!

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Are you interested in starting a business to provide more income for your family, but you just don’t know how you could possibly find the time to do it as a full-time pastor?

Well I believe it really is possible, and we’ll talk about how to find the time to start a business or achieve any goal this year - in as little as 7 or 15 hours a week - on this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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I know those big name pastors can turn their sermons into books and sell tons of copies. But can any pastor do that, and actually make money as an author? Missionary and author Danny Davis says yes you can! And he'll share his pathway to profits as a self-published author, while serving as a missionary in East Africa, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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Is it really possible for pastors to create income outside the church - even if you're a missionary serving in East Africa? We'll talk about that with special guest Dr. Danny Davis, and we'll discuss his new book, The Way of the Shepherd: From Anxiety to Assurance: Embracing the Timeless Wisdom of Psalm 23, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

In this conversation...

• Danny and I talk about his 30+ years in ministry as a pastor, church planter, missionary, and equipper, and how he began to leverage his ministry experience into books and other resources that inspire and bless others and generate multiple streams of income.
• I also ask Danny why he feels strongly about pastors creating income outside the church. His answer might surprise you.
• He takes us into the backstory behind his new book, The Way of the Shepherd: From Anxiety to Assurance: Embracing the Timeless Wisdom of Psalm 23. And we explore why the message of Psalm 23 is needed in the church, and in our world, now more than ever.

And FYI, in the next episode, part 2 of our conversation, Danny shares valuable insights he's learned on his journey as a self-published author, and how any pastor can create sustainable income as writer. You won't want to miss it!

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• Danny Davis' New Book: The Way of the Shepherd: From Anxiety to Assurance: Embracing the Timeless Wisdom of Psalm 23
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How does your view of spiritual gifts - and what they're really for - impact your health and longevity as a pastor, especially if you're co-vocational, and help your church become more sustainable in accomplishing the mission God has given it? We'll talk about that with special guest Chase Rashad in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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I'm so excited to have my friend Chase Rashad on the show today. Chase and I served together back about 10 years ago with Kentwood Community Church, a large multi-ethnic church located in suburban Grand Rapids, Michigan. In 2013 we had the privilege of launching the church's first multi-site campus.

Two years later, in 2015, Chase went on to launch Unison Christian Church, a multi-ethnic church in urban Grand Rapids. In addition to serving as lead pastor at Unison, Chase is a gifted musician as well as a racial equity coach for many schools, churches, and businesses. 

In this conversation...

• Chase and I talk about planting churches in a multi-ethnic context.
• I ask Chase about his journey as a co-vocational pastor, including a question he's never been asked or thought about before.
• And we discuss his new book, Seamless: What Your Spiritual Gifts are Really For, exploring the background on why he wrote the book (his answer may surprise you), what the church has often gotten wrong about spiritual gifts, and how a proper understanding of spiritual gifts is needed today more than ever amidst a rapidly changing church landscape.
• And lots more!

And now let's get to our conversation with Chase Rashad.

Is John Wesley’s Encouragement to “Make all you can, Save all you can, and Give all you can” Good Advice for Pastors Today? We’ll talk about that in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

Hello my friend. Welcome to the More Than a Pastor Show. I’m Rich Avery, your host. This is the show where we help pastors, missionaries, and other ministry leaders grow your income and build financial security.

We help you take your skills, experience, and ministry know-how and leverage them into sustainable income outside of the church, through a business or side hustle that’s right for you. So you can serve God and provide for your family, no matter what.

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If your church or ministry could no longer afford to pay your salary, and you had to find a way to earn income outside the church, would that feel like a major disappointment and personal failure to you? 

What if, instead, it’s a God-ordained opportunity to use your skills in new ways to impact people you wouldn’t otherwise meet and provide a financial blessing for your family?

Today we’ll hear Wayne Richards’ story of how he experienced a 70% decrease in income and how God transformed that loss into amazing new ministry and financial opportunities. 

And we’ll learn how Wayne helps churches and ministries raise funds for missionaries and ministry projects through buying, renovating, and flipping houses, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started.

Hello my friend. Welcome to the More Than a Pastor Show. I’m Rich Avery, your host. This is the show where we help pastors, missionaries, and other ministry leaders grow your income and build financial security. We help you take your skills, experience, and ministry know-how and leverage them into sustainable income outside of the church, through a business or side hustle that’s right for you. So you can serve God and provide for your family, no matter what.

Get the blog post/show notes at www.morethanapastor.com/67

42% of pastors considered quitting in the past year, according to a 2022 Barna report. Are you one of them?

In this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show, we’ll look at five common issues that leave pastors feeling unsatisfied, and explore meaningful ways to find more fulfillment.

We'll also pay tribute to my friend and mentor Dan Miller, who has guided many pastors through this process.

Hello my friend. Welcome to the More Than a Pastor Show. I’m Rich Avery, your host. This is the show where we help pastors, missionaries, and other ministry leaders grow your income and build financial security. 

We help you take your skills, experience, and ministry know-how and leverage them into sustainable income outside of the church, through a business or side hustle that’s right for you. So you can serve God and provide for your family, no matter what. 

Thanks for joining me today, I really appreciate the time we can spend together. And If you’re new to the show, you can learn more about me, get the show notes for today’s episode, and download some free resources to help you grow your income and build financial security over at my website: www. morethanapastor.com/66 for episode 66.

What if God asked you to give away your age as a percentage of income, and continue to increase it 1% a year for the rest of your life...what would you do?  Today we'll hear the amazing story of one couple's journey of radical generosity and lessons you can learn to inspire generosity in your church. In this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.  Let's get started!

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There is no shortage of tools, methods or strategies for church planting and growth. But what if the best strategy for sharing the message of Jesus in a post-Christian era is to actually follow the methods of Jesus?

We’ll dive into Jesus’ methods for missional ministry and marketplace engagement with our guest Ben Ingebretson, author of Plant Like Jesus: The Church Planter's Devotional, in this episode of the More than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

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Wondering How You Could Future-Proof Your Church Finances?

Feeling the weight of financial concerns for your church? Wondering how you could ignite a culture of generosity in your congregation? Feeling like it's time to explore alternative revenue options? Know that you're not alone! We're here to support you every step of the way.

We're offering individual and group coaching programs to help you unlock the strategies that are right for you and your church, so you can diversify your revenue streams, foster a growing culture of generosity, and navigate today's church funding challenges with confidence.

Don't let financial challenges hinder your ministry's impact or jeopardize your personal livelihood. Take the first step towards financial resilience and sustainability today, and book your free 30-minute strategy session.

 What happens to your sense of identity and calling as a pastor when everything changes? You entered the ministry years ago with a certain set of expectations of what the church is and what your role is in it, only to find them challenged by continually changing circumstances.

We’ll talk about pastoral identity and the future of ministry, and how you can stay adaptable and on-mission in the midst of change, in this episode of the More than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

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We are living in an era called "The Great Dechurching" of America. Millions are leaving churches each year, for various reasons which we've covered in previous episodes. Since attendance has been inextricably linked to income for most churches, it's not a stretch to see how "The Great Dechurching" of America will inevitably lead to "The Great Defunding" of the church. The math is simple: Declining attendance + declining giving + rising expenses due to inflation = an unsustainable situation for many churches. Probably even yours. And maybe you're wondering...In the midst of all this uncertainty...
Is there anything pastors can do to revitalize your church's finances and future-proof your own personal income? I believe the answer to that question is Yes! And in this episode of The More Than a Pastor Show, we'll explore strategies to help pastors grow your income and secure your financial future - both inside and outside the church.

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Are you looking for the best way to make money quickly? Well you’re going to love today’s show, because I’ll share 6 reasons why providing a service that solves a problem for someone else is one of the fastest and best ways to generate income. And I’ll share practical steps you can take to get started today. That’s all coming up in this edition of the More Than a Pastor show. Let’s get started!

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Deciding that you want or need to earn extra money as a pastor is one thing. But finding the time to do it, in addition to your regular ministry position, can be a challenge!

So how can you find the time to launch your own business or side hustle? And is it really possible to build your dream business in just 15 hours a week, or even less? We’ll talk about that in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. Let’s get started!

4 Keys to Success in Starting Your Own Business

If you’re a pastor thinking about starting a business or side hustle, I believe there are 4 keys to success that will help you start strong and stay motivated in your ministry work and your entrepreneurial journey. I’ve put them all together a free PDF aptly called the Four Keys to Success in Starting Your Own Business.

I’d love to give you a free copy, so you can avoid some of the common pitfalls that trip people up as they’re starting something on the side. Download your copy today at www.morethanapastor.com/keys.

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Will the 21st century pastor look more like the co-vocational tentmaker of the 1st century church than the full-time pastor of the 20th century?

Church leadership expert Greg Atkinson says YES, and shares several reasons why pastors and churches need to embrace entrepreneurship now, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show. 

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Introducing Greg Atkinson

I’m excited to have Greg Atkinson join us on the show today. Greg has been in ministry for nearly 30 years.

He is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, speaker, leadership and life coach, and consultant. He has worked with churches of all stages and sizes, including some of the largest and fastest-growing churches in the country, as well as with businesses, non-profits, and organizations.

In this conversation...

• Greg and I talk about how he began to leverage his ministry skills into resources that served pastors and churches, and how those resources have generated multiple streams of income.
• I also ask Greg for his thoughts on what the future of the church will look like over the next 5-10 years and beyond. His answer might surprise you.
• He takes us into the backstory behind his new book, The Secret Power of Kindness, which is available for pre-order starting today on Amazon. And we explore why the message of Kindness is needed in the church, and in our world, now more than ever.

And now let’s get to our conversation with Greg Atkinson!

Church attendance and giving are down 30% over the last two years, according to recent surveys. If this trend continues, churches will be forced to make more serious cutbacks. Programming and staffing are often the first places to cut.

But what happens when churches need to cut back on support for missions? Are self-funded missionaries the future of the church? We’ll talk about it in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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Nearly 50% of American pastors say they struggle with burnout and have considered quitting in the last year, believing that a fresh start somewhere else is just what they need.

What if you didn’t have to go somewhere else to get a fresh start. What if you could press the reset button on your life and ministry right now, and create a fresh start right where you’re at?

Well I believe you can, and today I’ll share 5 steps you can take to get unstuck, give yourself a reset, and move forward in your life and work, in this episode of the More Than a Pastor Show.

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