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Unraveling the Complexities: Dating, Relationships, and the Controversial World of Birth Control
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Ever wonder why dating seems to be so complicated? This episode is all about analyzing the world of dating, relationships and even birth control. We engage in heated discussions about the weighty topic of parental licensing and the equally controversial notion of male birth control. Our exploration doesn't stop there though; we take a hard look at the consequences of a doctor impregnating multiple women and the lingering effects of male birth control on their lives.
Navigating relationships is no easy task. We divulge into the dynamics and expectations that come with dating. Everything from the red flags you should watch out for, the role of money and materialism in today's relationships, to the importance of meaningful conversations and genuine energy with your partner. We then switch gears to the gender dynamics in relationships, exploring the murky waters of cheating and the cultural influences on gender roles in relationships.
To wrap it up, we dissect the differences in how men and women experience sex, and how these differences can profoundly impact relationships. We also delve into the complexities of dating, the influence of money in relationships, and the significance of communication. Engage with us as we provide unique insights into these topics and more. This episode is a must-listen if you want to understand the nuances of navigating relationships and dating in the modern era.
Parental Licensing and Male Birth Control
Speaker 1It's tricky .
Speaker 2I say parents should be licensed , so you should cannot have a child unless you get a license so so so what do you think about these Male birth controls coming out and now men can like get vasectomies ?
Speaker 1No , but it's not the second me , but I'll take . I'm not .
Speaker 2I'm not .
Speaker 3I'm not sold on the vasectomy thing .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know why Are you done having children ? Yeah , but it's always nothing like the option , though .
Speaker 3You know what I just don't want to be backed into a corner . Let's just say I'll just just say one day out I could be like 70 years old and some I get some young chick and she might you know , I want you to have a baby . Why ? You never know I don't , but I like the . I like the options though .
Speaker 2We're into on boundaries .
Speaker 1What about that doctor that had that said save millions of millions of sperm ? let's what you call them sperm .
Speaker 2It's just sperm .
Speaker 1Any save them like he and then .
Speaker 2Didn't that doctor impregnate many women ? Which is So ? now you have people out here in the world who are siblings biologically and we don't know what's happening .
Speaker 1That is horrible , horrible .
Speaker 2You do not need that option .
Speaker 3No , you see you taking a drone way and I believe in you . Start messing with stuff . You could screw something up . Matter of fact , one of my um this is my co-workers . He had a vasectomy the first time was messed up . He was kept bleeding out of it . He couldn't he couldn't get an erection so he had to go back and correct it . So I just he said it's the worst pain in his life He said he would be through is the worst pain He had erection for .
Speaker 1he said like two weeks and it was blood coming out of it .
Speaker 2They had to go back and correct it and he that sounds like a big pee pee , a personal problem .
Speaker 3Sounds like a big lawsuit It's just I don't know , i just can't , i can't see myself . just I'm not gonna say I won't do it , it's just a lot of it's like a lot that goes into it .
Speaker 2Okay , but what about the male birth control ? Would you do that ?
Speaker 1Yeah , I would do that We're all talking about . Maybe lice doesn't have any lingering effects .
Speaker 2Why women birth ? female birth control has lingering effects .
Speaker 3Oh , yes , it does now he .
Speaker 2G-rex , like you don't say I never knew .
Speaker 3I don't know , i guess I could do it . I mean , i'll do it . Yeah , it's not , it's not that serious .
Speaker 1Well , i say a woman , since a woman has a right to choose right and she , no one has to carry the baby and all , like she , this is her thing , like we . Just we just participate by supplying the sperm on Occasion but this is really y'all thing .
Speaker 2But what if a woman doesn't want to be on birth control because of the lingering effects ?
Speaker 1And you don't want to have kids , i'm assuming ?
Speaker 2you don't want to have kids .
Speaker 1Oh .
Speaker 4See , you would pull out every time .
Speaker 1I pull out .
Speaker 3Yeah , mine , mine is yeah mine is a fully effective .
Speaker 1What are my boys ?
Speaker 2He don't believe it . He's a true .
Speaker 3He said you a punk if you pull out my boy .
Speaker 5He never pulls out how many kids it got Three . He got three . He got three He knows that .
Speaker 4He knows that . He knows of . My husband says the same thing . He's like only losers pull out . I'm a loser .
Speaker 1I don't want to pull out . It's like I'm trained , i'm pretty mature , pull out .
Speaker 2Sometimes , I pull out like , oh shit , I wasn't ready . No man , listen .
Speaker 3I would do , i would do the um burqa todo , that's that .
Speaker 2I don't do male birth control . What is ?
Speaker 3it just appeal Oh Oh , morning after . The morning after is perfect .
Speaker 1Yeah why not just morning after boom ? Yeah , but there's no affect , they should just sell it like there are no effects .
Speaker 2But That kind of defeats the purpose if you always do in it and then have to always take the morning after pill .
Speaker 1How I mean how it's like drinking my you might as well go on birth control .
Speaker 4Yeah , you might as well go on birth control once .
Speaker 2Yeah , you might as well do birth control , Yeah but , but .
Speaker 3Birth control has the side effects morning after this well , we ain't supposed to take it daily , though , so we don't know , Take it every day Tic Tacs like believe heavily , yeah , so every day .
Speaker 2I don't know I know somebody took the morning after pill . I still got pregnant Oh but I think holy shit but they say it doesn't like if you are already pregnant , because it's like maybe they didn't know It's a 72 hour window , right . So if you go , the longer you go towards that 72 hours is the possibility that you are already pregnant . So if you take it in , you're already pregnant . It's not effective .
Speaker 1Too shit . It's like chasing that sperm .
Speaker 3You know , being that you're good , you want to say something before I say this . This by going to turn into a holding subject . Okay okay , it may not just think about . You know you got . It's a lot of depression in the world . People feel like they lonely . I know this is a very off topic , but I just thought about because of the sperm thing , Don't you know , we all have won something ? at one point We was that one egg there when at one sperm . Yeah , you know you was the winner at one point .
Speaker 3I love it out of millions . It's not , there's not like it . So you know , you know , you played a lot of philosophical .
Speaker 2You feel like we were meant to be here . It was meant to be , we were winner sperm .
Speaker 1That's right . Think about it in my line . Wait egg and sperm , though , right Well there was only one egg .
Speaker 3Yeah , you look at you . Still you was that person or that one that made it . So I mean , that's just deep .
Speaker 1For the world . Let's go . Thank you .
Speaker 3So let's talk about date night . Date night . I've been couple questions before we even get into that . Who here likes to date ? Because you can't reach me , listeners can't see you like to date Answering like today .
Speaker 5I like . I like many dating . What's that ? Yeah many , many dating . It's like You know someone that's there temporarily , you know you , you date , you do your little thing and then you move on and do it all over again .
Speaker 2I didn't know that had a name . I Thought that was different name for that .
Speaker 4It's not a hoeing .
Speaker 5No , I didn't say anything about sex I . I said dating like I like men . I do like many data .
Speaker 1I like going on dates .
Speaker 5You know , I like many people like the whole dating thing too .
Speaker 3I guess the challenge of trying to impress that person on a consistent basis because when you want you get them , you know you're not really thinking about trying to impress them , but that challenge of trying to impress them all the time is , think about the date like going out .
Speaker 3Doing things doing things make them smile , having the conversation , because the conversations in the beginning is always the best You know . You first getting into the side in dating a new person . You're on a phone for hours and you like , like a little kid , getting falling asleep on the phone and stuff .
Speaker 3And then you know you grow out of it . But that an issue part is the fun , is the fun part of it . I think if I had to change it I would just be a dator . I would just date , also have sex , and probably one to the next person , and just date again and just .
Speaker 2Also would enjoy a mini date , many dates . Many dates Many dating What about you . Do you like the day ? I don't mind dating .
Speaker 3Okay , do you like the whole event of it ? Do you like like you know ?
Speaker 2I like flirting .
Speaker 3So you like , before the date , you like to get the date .
Speaker 2I like , i like flirting . I would prefer to flirt , and then I don't . I don't like to invest my time into things That are not worthy .
Speaker 3What makes them worthy , though I mean ?
Speaker 2I guess you have to date to find out if they're worthy right . It's just a matter of I don't know I it takes time .
Speaker 3So how do you know , how do you trust your instinct when it comes to getting a date ?
Speaker 2because listen , i don't know . I've said at my life very consistently to work right now .
Speaker 3You know a reason why I asked that because you know you get people that say , make that statement about finding the right person , and let's just say you haven't found the right person , so that's a lot of mistakes that you made . So what does ? how does that go for your ? Yeah , i don't see your ego , but your confidence about , about dating .
Speaker 2I don't think it's about . Can you trust yourself ? That's what I mean . Um , no , yeah , you can trust yourself . I do believe this any
The Purpose and Challenges of Dating
Speaker 2. Anytime you date someone , right ? Any person you meet brings Influence into your life , right ? So you meet somebody . There might be something like I don't really like that , i know I don't want that in the person that I'm with , or I know I like that , I'm gonna bring that forward , or I know you , you learn a little bit more about yourself .
Speaker 3So that means so you're basically saying that That person might be that step to get to your real person .
Speaker 2I think so Yeah . So I guess , there's purpose in in many dating .
Speaker 3There you go many many dating purpose .
Speaker 5No , it's no purpose for me . It's like I Like you , let's hang out , and then you know , someone else might come along and catch the mind . And Let's hang out , do the same thing .
Speaker 3So it's a physical thing with you initially .
Speaker 2Hmm , no , is it physical , is it ?
Speaker 3just no pressure .
Speaker 2Like we're just gonna go with the flow and see what happens .
Speaker 5Oh , so it's definitely physical . Okay , oh shit , like I , like damn You're sexy , i want to hang out with you , and then we hang out .
Speaker 4That's probably why you many days because you get sick of them and they don't excite you anymore .
Speaker 2Yeah , pretty much pretty much . I like .
Speaker 5I like the options and the variety . So just cuz I like stop hanging out with them , doesn't mean it's like forever , like I will they come back around ? Yeah , so you're not chill with someone . Yesterday we hung out and stuff like that and We haven't seen each other in like months . But you know there's been other people in between and We fell back like it was nothing and I probably won't see him again for another couple months , so , but there'll probably be somebody else that I was actually supposed to go on a date today with somebody else , so but it's confusing though , because if you initially tracked into him cuz physically and then you fell off and then you go back , what is it ?
Speaker 5It's not that we fell off , it's just that .
Speaker 2I .
Speaker 5Just like the variety ?
Speaker 2is there an understanding like ?
Speaker 5Yeah , I mean for the most part , yeah .
Speaker 2You ain't gotta convince me .
Speaker 3I'm just I'm asking questions .
Speaker 2Everyone is an adult . We all know what's happening . Fuckin it Yeah it's just insane , you fucking .
Speaker 5I mean Yeah , i mean for you know , for the most part hopefully gets to that .
Speaker 4But I mean , that's what he stopped many dating when they won't give it up .
Speaker 5Always get it .
Speaker 3Thank you , danny , got it ordered from the expensive part of the way exactly , i don't know . So I Think the dode , the dating thing , because when I was younger it was date . You want to date because you wouldn't get any pains . But I think as I got older I just like the whole The romance of it .
Speaker 3I guess , i don't know , that sounds silly , or no the whole the whole romance of it , like the , you know the taking her out and holding the door and smiling and getting that first crush on the person and I'm not talking about Once you fall in you start liking a lot . I mean the crush to crush to me is the part I like , you like to crush . I don't like that . I'll be like each other .
Speaker 3We like the anticipation right , that's like the crush part , like I'm crushing on you but , then , once we start liking , each other like I don't want to like you that much . I just want to crush on you . But I like , i like this , i like the suspense . I like a person where We go out and date and I want to do it again the next day . They're like no , and so you won't date them again until like a week or two later . And so it gets . It keeps you coming like chasing them . I guess . I guess I'm giving out all the clues for women .
Speaker 2Yeah , but God , maybe you shouldn't date them consistently .
Speaker 3Give them a little bit .
Speaker 2You want to miss them ?
Speaker 3sprinkle little sprinkles , little spring . Yeah , let's say called assaulted . What do ? you do What about you to me , what you think about dating .
Speaker 4Well , i think it's well .
Speaker 3As a married person , i'm just taking this all because I we not married stuff .
Speaker 4So I don't really care for dating , really like , just like you know , It's a waste of time .
Speaker 2I also think , like guys Let's be real here for women I think that the quality out there is not great . Like , like if for us It becomes a waste of time eventually . Like I think there are better quality women for you guys to date than there are good quality men , because the good quality men are usually taken .
Speaker 3Not tend to disagree with you .
Speaker 4Well , i think that , like you know , it's for us as women There are so many standards that we are correct , requesting right exactly , Exactly you .
Speaker 3That's what I'm gonna say .
Speaker 4Yeah . So it's like Like Six of us are fighting for one guy , correct . So that's why it seems like there's a whole bunch of like cheating and all that going on , which more and more now recently , guys are saying I'm dating everybody . Yeah right , i'm . They're not lying about it . So it's like women are more saying they're okay with that type of situation , but I'm not .
Speaker 3I don't think it's a shortage of men , i just think the women's standards are too high . I don't want to bring back Kevin saying these stuff , but sometimes you guys , the standards , you guys like I know women , that's up in damn air . They're 50s and not marrying stuff . Because they got , they want , they want to get a hit all of the checks with it , with the guy , and sometimes you got to take away them checks as years go by . I think every year you should take away like okay , okay .
Speaker 2He ain't got to have a six family . Agree with that . I think that we again we do have a lot of high standards . We want a guy that like fits a mold , that can , that's gonna be able to fit in with our family , that's gonna be financially secure , that's gonna look good , that's gonna be .
Speaker 3We don't want to show it , guys , we want to talk right , i was just gonna say that I know a lot of guys out there That's sure it has got it going . and one woman look at him , says I don't care , he got six figures , he got , he's smart .
Speaker 4He's everyone's taller than me , so I'm like They say everything but . But he's too teachers . But I don't think it's wrong for a woman to have confidence in what she knows . And and that goes hand-in-hand with about people wasting time , right , you know what I'm saying . Like , i'm not gonna waste my time on everybody who wants to give me a date right , Right I get that , but what so , when it comes to confidence ?
Speaker 3when do your confidence like ? when do you put it away ?
Speaker 4Well , when you obviously you click with people , you can't like be overly confident , but you and you have to be approachable . But certain things you didn't know , you're like why waste his time ? because I know that I personally would not entertain it . See , it's about wasting people's time .
Speaker 2Yeah , i agree , but I think so , i think I'm very big on like energies , right , people bring energies into the table on , you know , and I think that when you vibe with someone , you vibe with someone like and so those , those , those High expectations and high standards You're like , okay , maybe I can cross this one off of this or you know what I mean , because you just vibe with each other and that's who you spend your time with , that's who you kind of Invest into a little bit because that feels worth your
Dating and Relationship Dynamics
Speaker 2time .
Speaker 2But like shit dating , and like I've , i was told recently I had been dating defensively Because I had like I was just fighting cuz I was like God , like I don't want to waste my time with you , but you're like continuing to bother me . You're not , you're not getting it .
Speaker 3I think there's a lot of women , Oh yeah .
Speaker 2I know , i know more . It's like you could do bad by yourself .
Speaker 4Yes , and that's so so .
Speaker 5I know like we can make it .
Speaker 2Yeah Yeah , i'm cool with many dating . that sounds great . But relationship wise , i know it's time to leave a relationship when I feel like when I was single I was so much better off , correct ? That's oh shit , yeah , when you know what it makes me feel like what enhancements are you bringing to my life ? If I was living my best life as a single person , why do I ?
Speaker 4need but it's also to say you doing stuff out of habit Correct , you know what I'm saying like you're with the person because it's like , okay , it's been whatever , how many years , and like now it's a habit , like . But to go back to your point , like we were talking about the crush , men don't understand that you still have to chase and date Like ten years down the line .
Speaker 2Ten years down the line .
Speaker 4You know what I'm saying ? because you have to keep us , just like women have to upkeep themselves . And You got to be looking right . You still got to do what you got to do when you got that man . You still gotta be doing that 10 years later .
Speaker 2You still want them to speak into the microphone 10 years later , right , correct ?
Speaker 3But they don't always do it consistently . Oh , no , no .
Speaker 4But when you but like I said , you do have women that do it consistently Correct Or five times a week .
Speaker 1I see it completely differently .
Speaker 4Well , let's hear . I see it completely differently .
Speaker 3I know he was warming up . I had to say he did .
Speaker 1I'm sitting here , i'm like , ok first of all when I think about so , check this out , first dates . Let's go to first dates , because I'm a connoisseur , so I always say let's just Are you on bumble ? Let's have . Let's have coffee , right , because I am not going to some elaborate dinner with someone who I'm really just trying to feel out whether we're together .
Speaker 2They always want to go on this elaborate dinner .
Speaker 5Yeah , true .
Speaker 1Right And and like of course they're not going to pay , they're not going to offer to pay , which you know . Ok , i'm fine with that . But I say let's do a little introductory meet . We have a drink or we can go have coffee , whatever , and it's always a problem Like , well , i'm worth more than a .
Speaker 4You're looking at these . You're looking at it .
Speaker 2I don't think that that's a problem . I think before you , before you make a decision to sit at a dinner table with somebody . You want to know if you can have a conversation with them Right , so I think coffee is the perfect date .
Speaker 1Do you think most women think that's for the 30 and up ? They probably don't , they don't , they definitely don't .
Speaker 2Because , you're right , there's this list of standards and because , let's be honest , right And I know , i know that you're a connoisseur of first dates and you're like an anomaly to them , to the male population .
Speaker 1I mean right .
Speaker 2And .
Speaker 3I know , Oh shit .
Speaker 2That's the missing link .
Speaker 4OK , you are the missing link . No , we need you to tell us the secret .
Speaker 2You tell us the secrets , but most , most women like like statistically most women right now are making more money than men .
Speaker 1That is true .
Speaker 2Correct , right . And so women are like all right , i know what I bring to the table . Can you at least take me out to dinner ? Shit , right , so . So that's that's the frame of mind that they're coming from . But I see both sides . I don't want to sit at a dinner table with someone I can't have a conversation with .
Speaker 2I think coffee is perfect , and I think that the second date shouldn't be dinner either . Right , we should meet up for lunch sometime , or we should go on a walk or something like that . I don't know . Get on the boat , right , something something like that Right , and then maybe third or fourth date could be dinner , because again make it worth my time .
Speaker 1Absolutely .
Speaker 2Make me feel like I want to spend time with him . I want to get him , to get to know him a little more . That , to me , is what dating should be . It's just that exchange of energy and exchange of conversation and exchange of good vibes . Yeah . But , that's , that is rare .
Speaker 1It is Okay On both sides .
Speaker 3Yeah , it is , it is , It is .
Speaker 1I totally agree with that And I think that women you know , and I was I was listening to some other things , so some of the complaints that you have about men I see in women as well . For example , you know you get the ring right . So we're a little bit past dating now , but you get the ring . And all of a sudden , everything that got you to get that ring goes away .
Speaker 4But listen , that's true . That's not always a completely fair assessment , Okay .
Speaker 1Not 100% of anything is ever , Not even 98 . So stop No no , it's at least 70% of the time .
Speaker 4I agree , it is 70% of the time . I mean everything you did . I give you an example of someone I know . Okay , so they're married And their husband is used to what before they had kids ? having sex pretty much every day , seven days a week , multiple times . Okay , then you have a family and you have kids . They have soccer practice , they have softball practice , you know all of these things , and you can only have sex four times a week . The husband complains because it wasn't like it was before we had kids . This is my friend that I'm discussing .
Speaker 1If his sex drive is high , what does he supposed to do ?
Speaker 2Jack off in the bathroom Like all the other women think that's like that helps .
Speaker 3I mean , but this is what I'm saying , but you take that right And it's technically .
Speaker 4Yes , it's less than before we had , but it's like four days a week , are you serious ?
Speaker 2But here's . Here's what I think about that .
Speaker 3I don't think is that the sex goes down .
Speaker 2But I think that once children come into the mix , you're wrote like so usually that's taking everything right , driving these kids everywhere , fucking , feeding their asses . That was the woman's argument , all of this stuff And by the end of the day , you want her to have sex with you . She's tired , correct ? What are you doing to help her with ?
Speaker 3all this . I do understand that . But when it , when the guys , if you're doing a traditional home and a guy's providing doing all this stuff , he can't slack .
Speaker 4And he can't slack and say well , that's what my friend's husband said . He was like when I don't feel like doing something , the mortgage still gets paid . Facts It's true , though It is true .
Speaker 3Like . So you just basically said we get a woman should get a pass before , whatever's going on . But we got to keep that same standard going from the day one . But okay , let's just say you got one because I'm very successful , i'm making money and all this stuff . But soon we get married , had kids . I'm saying you know what ? I don't want to make that much money anymore .
Speaker 2Let's downgrade to apartment , let's you're not going to like that , but she working to and doing right and all of that other stuff , because that's a deal If you're all you're doing is working And like there's no even distribution of what's going on here , Right ?
Speaker 3But what I'm saying is , if he's , if he's bringing a hundred and from day one and she starts offering the hundred until they start having kids and all that stuff . But she only could bring seven to one children . But I get . No , i get that , i understand that . I'm just saying but we , i don't have room .
Speaker 1It's not even just , but y'all can't even just say the kids and then less sex . It's all those other pieces that matters .
Speaker 4But even if you go from seven to four like No , no , forget this .
Speaker 1If going from seven to four is probably tolerable , at least for some men , but now , when you're going from my beautiful wife to now , i come home and she's in disarray all the time and there's no dinner , you know it's , the atmosphere is not loving and warm , and all of that is now gone . Well , that's a hundred percent correct .
Speaker 4I agree with that .
Speaker 1And so that's back . I'm back to the 70% , so 70% of that is happening .
Speaker 2Well , that's happening because she resents him for something She wants to put . no , she's resenting him for something . Probably because he wants sex seven days a week and he's not helping her with the truth , So yeah , so y'all don't think the drive changes just a little bit after you say I do from a woman .
Speaker 4It does It does Okay .
Speaker 3It definitely does I don't know .
Speaker 2I've never said I do . I can say I'll make my best effort I do , but I do . I'll make my best effort to give you sex seven days a week .
Speaker 3But I think it goes both ways , both ways . I'm just , i just I just feel like some women . I was watching this YouTube thing and it was talking women was talking about oh , the guy got to do this guy gotta do that . And the guy was like okay , you want this traditional guy , but we don't get traditional women .
Speaker 2You know you still got this .
Speaker 3You still got women that some don't want to cook , Some think they too independent to do this or do that . Now you want me to help you with the kids because traditionally , if you go by , traditionally , the husband doesn't help with the kids . But you want me to be a traditional man , but you don't want to be the traditional wife .
Speaker 2So you got , if you want to take one .
Speaker 3You got to have , you got to take it all .
Speaker 2Here is the other thought that I have , and I remember going through something in my hairdress . My hairdress is a friend of mine , a guy , and he said you know every , every married woman that sits in my chair is unhappy , she has miserable , she never enjoys sex with her husband , so sex is for him . She don't get any satisfaction out of it .
Speaker 4When a woman has sex with a man , it's always for him .
Speaker 2It's always for him right .
Speaker 1That's probably true most of the time .
Speaker 2Most of the time , yeah , and so when you then marry someone and because let's talk about it right , because men get comfortable too , and he's like , oh , that's mine , i'm entitled to that , right . So I'm getting that anyway until he feels satisfaction and release and he's not worried about what happens there . So why should she want ? What is she getting out of the exchange ?
Speaker 3I don't know , oh , look , look , look , i got nothing to say now A roof over her head right .
Speaker 1God did not make this thing all balanced and stuff like that for .
Speaker 2No For .
Speaker 1But I do , i do think that the act of sex like because , remember , some cultures treat sex as a means to an end , it's only to create Right .
Speaker 1I mean , yeah , there's some joy in doing it , but it's But Western civilization . We treat sex as you know , this euphoria thing that happens to could result in having a baby . So it's a whole different dynamic , right . But in reality , i mean , sex is a means to an end and there may not be pleasure on both sides . That's just the way it's designed , right . But the man , the man has to have that right , That's critical Right It is .
Speaker 1And so the woman is kind of created to be his Partner in that that whole concept . So hopefully she enjoys it , but if she doesn't , that's you know , that's something that could be psychological too . Right It could be something in the mind .
Speaker 3But I mean , but even look at most relations that break up on people guys cheat . The first thing he says why , why are you cheating ? You have sex with me .
Speaker 4Was it having sex with me .
Speaker 3Right , i'm going to you , don't got to beg him .
Speaker 4No , no , no , no no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no no , no , no , no , no no no no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no no , no , no , I don't know .
Speaker 3And my wife is backing that thing up every night . Yeah , i don't , i don't , i'm , i'm , i'm , i'm be honest with you , yeah .
Speaker 4I'm subway . If she was , if , if your wife is doing what she has to do .
Speaker 2Do not going to you're not going to have .
Speaker 1Trust me , you ain't going to have no energy to cheat , even if you wanted to . Right , i'm gonna be silent . I've never had a penis before , i don't know . I come home at night . Not only am I treated with beautiful meal or whatever , but then , before we go to bed , we get some quality time , even if it's a half an hour .
Speaker 3Kids go to sleep .
Speaker 2Quickie .
Speaker 3But I'm evil right .
Speaker 1But just think about that . I wouldn't have energy or time or whatever .
Speaker 3He's right , you're not gonna have no energy , even if you thinking and you're like , i ain't gonna be able to do it though , cause you're just all out . Your body only produces a certain amount of sperm anyway .
Speaker 2This reminds me of . I saw this meme or something and it was like from the 1960s . They were looking in a book and it was like things to make your husband happy , make sure the kids are quiet when they get home .
Speaker 3Oh , I see that This sounds like Gag them little .
Speaker 2Make sure the food is on the table nice and hot , And we're at 2023 .
Speaker 3Honestly , i know we're in 2023 , but what we guys ask ? I don't think we ask for a lot .
Speaker 1I don't think that's a lot . It's not really a lot .
Speaker 3Cause you gotta . If you cook every day , you gotta eat anyway . Right , if I wasn't here you gonna cook , but here's the kicker , you want men to be monogamous .
Speaker 1Men are not naturally monogamous , right ? So if you want a man to be monogamous , that means you gotta be every woman , and that's the hard part for women to understand . God really made men to have .
Speaker 4Man can be monogamous or not like polygamous , but I let me do it too .
Speaker 3Oh wait hold on See , okay , see , that's not your nature . No , you don't know , that's not the whole nature .
Speaker 2You can't do whatever you want . Whatever , man , i'm done now . We're about to qualify for 2023 . We'll both do
Red Flags in Dating
Speaker 2what we want .
Speaker 4Next topic .
Speaker 2next topic What's the problem ? Ain't no problem , less mini dates as a married couple . This is not called a mini to mini .
Speaker 3This is not called mini to mini .
Speaker 1Right , This is one to mini , not mini to mini .
Speaker 4You got all these rules in shit , so back to the dating thing . This is why .
Speaker 2I'm set up my life in a certain kind of way to just work You're like .
Speaker 4this is why I don't waste my time .
Speaker 3Whatever . So back to the dating thing . So what is like a red flag for you when it comes to dating ? Like , just think about your worst date . What happened to you ? Like you know what ? this is bullshit . I'm done with this person .
Speaker 4When they talk about their ex . Oh , I hate this so much .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's a big one . I don't Don't be saying you're really old bro .
Speaker 2Right , they're not old man . One And two Words like a little selfish . They shouldn't matter Yeah .
Speaker 3That's such a turn off .
Speaker 4So that's the I'll be ready to be like no , I'm good , I don't care .
Speaker 3That's why I don't want to waste my time , okay , so I gotta be more than just that .
Speaker 4You said what is a red flag ? I just gave one .
Speaker 3You don't have any more red flags .
Speaker 4I gotta think .
Speaker 3I had one .
Speaker 4There's no print in the Grace Web Band .
Speaker 2Huh , That's a big red flag . You know what ? Listen .
Speaker 3No listen .
Speaker 2Listen .
Speaker 3I was reading something to the paper . I'm going to the paper . I read something I don't need a I don't need a- .
Speaker 1I think you're already out of show . I don't have a good-byes cover . You can't You can't go by that though .
Speaker 4He's a grower , not a shower . No , I need to see something .
Speaker 2Right , like in a show , please Let's make the other girls jealous . Come guns blazing . I agree , right .
Speaker 1You're stupid , You know you could always brush up against it , just to make sure .
Speaker 3Right , you never know . Some guys tuck it in the back , some guys tuck it between their legs As a customer standard .
Speaker 4Right , You could have a jack strap .
Speaker 3Right , what the fuck ? Some guys are not proud of that They don't want . No intention .
Speaker 4Well then they're not my energy .
Speaker 2Okay , right , it's all about energy . It's all about energy . Y'all are full of shit . I can't .
Speaker 3So if you're full of shit , you're full of shit . If you came to your house hard already with his gray sweat pants , you would look at him like a creep Right It's a problem . Maybe when I was 20 .
Speaker 2You'd be like come here , Susio , All right , Susio Yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah I can't .
Speaker 2Priorities , guys , priorities , okay , you asked .
Speaker 4Now not listen that non-imprint as a red flag .
Speaker 2Okay , don't waste my time . I think a red flag for me is like when I can tell you're being like not sincere and it's just you're just being dishonored Like you're just being insincere , like we're grown , let's just be honest .
Speaker 3Right . So how do you know that though ?
Speaker 2You just met the person You don't know . How do you know that It's all about energy ?
Speaker 1See , that's anecdotal . You gotta know You can't just assume This is dating . This could be the man of your dreams .
Speaker 2And you could it , though Does he exist ? Of course , is he an ice-life or something ? He's there , he's there , he definitely exists
Relationship Dynamics and Expectations
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1You are beautiful , bright , intelligent . One of the heat is there I am .
Speaker 2I am sassy and classy .
Speaker 4Yeah , and bad assy And bad assy , probably a little more sassy than classy . No , excuse me , i got her , i'm joking , i'm joking .
Speaker 2I'm joking , i'm joking , i'm joking , i'm joking , i'm joking , i'm joking . You just set yourself up for that . Fine , i'll give you that .
Speaker 3I think a red flag for me was I had a lot of good days , but this is one day that went on . She was talking about herself in one thing , but I could deal with that . She called the waiter over and she already had mine . She already had steak and lobster , right , it seemed like she went to the most expensive thing on the list because she just went down the list and then picked it . So then she called the waiter over and she was like I like to order , like I forgot my name . It was like a little steak dinner And I was like , but I said , you hungry still ? She said , oh no , i'm ordering some for my daughter , lord of mercy . So I'm thinking in my mind oh , you must be on another .
Speaker 1Just a check .
Speaker 3Right so he's like you just added to the check , she's like you just added to the check . I was like in my mind , i was like you know what , i'm gonna pay for it , cause this is gonna be the last date . I'm like , how do you like , how do you do that Like ? and she's like , oh , you know , i just you know , cause , since I'm not home , when she's like , since I want to date with you and I'm not home , i'm not cooking , i'm not able to cook for my daughter , so I want to bring , make sure she gets something to eat .
Speaker 2I was like that little bitch , I don't give a shit like that . Got nothing to do with me .
Speaker 1But I was like you know what Right .
Speaker 3I was like you know what I'm just gonna pay for it and just be done with her . I was like cause , i was , i was done . I was like you . How do you want to tell me what I'm going to pay for ?
Speaker 2You know what I used to do in my in my twenties , when I was dating in my twenties . Y'all are , I don't know , y'all might roast me , but when . I would go out on a date with a guy I would offer at the end . I'll offer , i'll pay half . You want to split the bill ?
Speaker 1Man . I love a woman like that .
Speaker 2But dammit , if you , let me pay half that bill , right , right right , we're not going out again . I appreciate that , i really appreciate that , but I appreciate that .
Speaker 3Yeah , if you offer . If you offer , i'm good Because look .
Speaker 1I'm not looking for a gold digger . And think about it . A lot of women today are looking for security And I think a man's job is to provide and protect right . Those are the two piece .
Speaker 2Well , glenn , you want to go out for some coffee , let's go , let's go , here you go . No , maybe a drink .
Speaker 3I'm going to have a drink . I'm going to have a drink .
Speaker 4Ah , that's good . It's a good dinner , stakin' lobster .
Speaker 2You already know my vibe . Maybe you ordered for the step kids and your cousins .
Speaker 1This is what I was talking about friends dating the same guy .
Speaker 2We fuck around and dating G-Mac at the same time .
Speaker 4Everybody , everybody dating G-Mac . I feel like I'm dating this baby . He only took over coffee , but the thing is like .
Speaker 1I think Tyson hit a big , big point Like this is this really weird line between a lot of women got you know , some women got their own right , so that's cool . It's this thin line of understanding what woman is really about the security and the money side of it , right , they're really more focused on that than they are about the relationship . And where are we really going ? And if your attention is like split , i can tell . I can tell quick .
Speaker 1So like but how do you tell It's the conversation , it's the way it goes , it's what we talk about . Is it materialistic kind of conversation ?
Speaker 2That's what I say about being insincere . Right ? Those are the things you can tell genuinely . Okay , then I can get that .
Speaker 1Yep , i can get that Absolutely . I mean , if you're going to talk about material , like when I talk , i want to talk on a vibe , i want to talk about life , i want to talk about experiences .
Speaker 1And if you want to talk about the mall and you want to talk about , you know , louis Vuitton , like I could tell , like there's something there . Even though you got your own , you know , you still especially a woman that has her own because she definitely don't want to go lower , right , so she wants to not even hire . So you in a man you caught either way , like you know , you pulling somebody up or somebody's , you're equal and they still going to try to . So it's very , very complicated , but I think money and finances is a big deal in today's world .
Speaker 3It is .
Speaker 1So cheating number one , and then money and finances . Those are the two things that collision courses .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean , I mean that's the most relationship , Sex and money most relationship .
Speaker 1Damn , damn , and I hate to say it's sex too , because sex should be the easiest thing in theory .
Speaker 4Well , i think it's the cheating part . Well , the cheating side right .
Speaker 1Stepping out , but shouldn't a man be able to okay ? no , i've been not good .
Speaker 3No , no , no , no , no , go , go , go , go , go , come on .
Speaker 5Let's start , let's start .
Speaker 1World War five . I think Okay , so damn .
Speaker 2I hope nobody's listening to this Not yet .
Speaker 3Are we in line ? Are we in line ? Are we in line ? This is not Glenn Mac , by the way .
Speaker 2This is not Glenn Mac , by the way .
Speaker 4This is Antoine .
Speaker 1So if some of the greatest men in the world and whatever cheating really means but some of the greatest men in the world fell victim to that , how can you expect us little peons not to also fall victim ?
Speaker 2to cheating .
Speaker 1Like is it even possible ? So let's think of one of the greatest men in the world that I know .
Speaker 2Let's say I don't want to slander his name .
Speaker 1But let's just say some of the greatest men you guys know fell victim to cheating right Or extramarital affairs , or whatever the case may be . Ron Luther King , jesse Jackson , i was going to say him , but how can you expect Lulule ?
Speaker 4me . I don't think it's about actually like maybe if it was something that was said ahead of time like this is how I want to run , could you have to respect , right , somebody's like position ? If you were like , listen , you tell your potential . I'm not looking for just one , i need two , maybe three and she gonna run the other way .
Speaker 4Well then you find that , but let her decide . You might get an answer that you were expecting or you might keep going and getting a bunch of people that run away till you get that one that's like yes , i'm into that , i'm down . You know what I'm saying . So it's about being able to choose .
Speaker 1But he does love his girl . So so y'all think men can't really really love you , unconditionally love you , and mess with somebody else .
Speaker 4No , I think that we . But I'm saying like it would be an even better situation if it was just something that was put on the table from the beginning .
Speaker 1Well , we don't have an intention of doing it from the beginning .
Speaker 4Yes , you do . No , you guys are built like that .
Speaker 1I think most men that say I do really believe that they are never going to touch another woman again . I really honestly believe that .
Speaker 3I do , i believe that .
Speaker 4I think , they think they .
Speaker 2I mean you go into it .
Speaker 4It's a beautiful because the , the wife , is lying about . That's why you believe her life , that she's going to have sex with you .
Speaker 3Right basically .
Speaker 1And she's going to cook . Let me tell ourselves She's going to cook and she's going to have .
Speaker 2She's going to have , i love her At least once a month , because let me ask a question When you get , when you get married , is that , do your mind frame like , like ownership , like now I own this person .
Speaker 4Yes .
Speaker 1And like I mean thank you Like now like their body belongs to me And I'm entitled to it all
Speaker 2the time .
Speaker 3I think so You think you entitled , but you're not entitled because you don't get it Right .
Speaker 1It goes the opposite direction of what you thought . Right , they're in lies , the first set of problems .
Speaker 4Somebody's talking about them because he think he own this shit And he be over here all the time in the space OK .
Speaker 2Get it daddy .
Speaker 3Oh , but do you do you ? do you give in though ?
Speaker 4Of course , because I'm not fucking happy .
Speaker 3Well , not , but see a lot of women don't give in though . That's the , that's the problem .
Speaker 1That's the problem . You're a good wife .
Speaker 4I know . But you know what . You know what killed me , though .
Speaker 2You know what you ?
Speaker 5know , what came about you women ?
Speaker 3Yeah Be . You'll be like oh , i got to do this , i got to do that , not for nothing . Most guys are done within 15 minutes , so it's not really taking that much time out of your busy schedule But we want to come to know you don't If you talk about I don't want to have sex because I'm dealing with the kids I'm about to get dirty baby .
Speaker 4You about to take a whole nother shower If I take a whole , nother shower .
Speaker 2You have to make or heat up the hot . I'm sorry .
Speaker 4I can't , i need some .
Speaker 3Well , no , but are you dealing with the kids ? Are you telling me no , because you're dealing with the kids . That's the two different things .
Speaker 2You want me to engage in this . I want to come as well .
Speaker 1Man , but some women are so gosh , some women are very hard to come .
Speaker 4They are .
Speaker 1I mean , i don't know whether it's psychological or I don't like Well what ?
Speaker 2is it Bigger ?
Speaker 1well , I do this and then you got to like , make sure my Well , that's what you have to do .
Speaker 3And it got the three count , the three to do this You have to know your .
Speaker 2You have to know what someone you should know her body , you should know exactly what .
Speaker 1No , sometimes women don't even know they body Stop it .
Speaker 4No , but I'm saying , when you're married to someone , you should . You should really .
Speaker 2I don't know the point You are sexually engaged with someone for a period of time . You know their body .
Speaker 3You know they body ? Do you know how to get home from here ? Yes , ok , but that's still you , wouldn't you want to walk it though , right ?
Speaker 2No , it's too far , ok , exactly .
Speaker 3So I know her body , but it takes too long to get there . Why would I want to do it ?
Speaker 1That's fucked up . You guys are , i mean , if you told me honestly if you could tell me that if I do these five things , you're always going to come . I do it on heartbeat , but for a man , all you got to do is last for X amount of time And I'm going to come right with you . It's got to be . If you could tell me these five things , i'll do it every time . But if you tell me just just a little , come on , just don't stop , that is forever .
Speaker 5Yes we write .
Speaker 1We write if it's doing forever , Something ain't right Like you know , it ain't me , i'm doing what you say , you guys take 15 minutes .
Speaker 4If you're doing it right , it could take me five , Like what ?
Speaker 1the fuck . Well then , that's that's . That's what I have , yet to see where it's consistently It's got .
Speaker 4You know , they know exactly what they , if I know that something's going on like and you can see that your man is like ready to like be done , then you got to hurry up and do what you got to do . Do what you do , you know what I mean , but I say get yours because like a race first one wins .
Speaker 3You better get your .
Speaker 1You better get your Quick , but I still got to get up and take care of the kids .
Speaker 4No , I still got to go in the bathroom and use my vibrator to get off , but you can't go get yours . And then by the time you get back , he sleep Right .
Speaker 1But wait , i'm going to say this once again sex is for men .
Speaker 5Right .
Speaker 1Sex is for men , y'all .
Speaker 2Are we going back to ? are we ? are we about to like do the handmaid's tail here ? This is what I'm feeling , like We're going to like Gilead
Sexual Differences and Perspectives
Speaker 2.
Speaker 4But they're speaking the truth . I mean , it is because most of the time women have sex they don't come . Guys , i enjoy sex but , but but . I enjoy .
Speaker 3You're also looking . Yeah , i don't think . I honestly don't think you guys feel what we feel , because we feel chasing that high right Do we do , you do it because , you want to get that high .
Speaker 4Yes , but then you never get it , so you keep chasing it . So you know .
Speaker 3The problem is , you women look at sex as equals . We're not equal when it comes to sex . It's not .
Speaker 4Sorry .
Speaker 3Our feeling with you weak feels totally different than what y'all feel . Because if if you felt what we feel , you will be acting the way we act , exactly You don't . You guys could go weeks without it and be OK . We cannot go weeks . We could . We could barely go a day without it . So that tells me that we sex is different from .
Speaker 1For us It's just it's just natural , and I hate to say this , but Gilead is a man .
Speaker 5Right Wrong with you , but think about it .
Speaker 3Think about all the things guys do for sex . Women , you don't do all that for sex . That means it's good We have what it is .
Speaker 4It's like the magic key . We don't have to do all of that , like we got pussy , like what I'm saying is .
Speaker 3But what I'm saying is sex to you guys . You guys say you know organs feel good to you , but I don't think it feels like we fail , no way .
Speaker 1Because if it felt like we would be chasing it , you will be on it all the time . You dive on me right now All the time Like I want to die . But I want to . So if somebody shows up , So have you ever heard ?
Speaker 3Have you heard of anybody ?
Speaker 4Have you ever heard of others Have ?
Speaker 3you ever heard of any females getting a kuchi sold up and killing themselves ? Absolutely not Guys , no , in fact the statistically , when something wrong with a guy's penis , they're more likely to commit suicide .
Speaker 4Good is dead . That's because you guys have fucking problems .
Speaker 3No , I'm telling you , the sex to us is different . That's weird .
Speaker 4Your sex is like . Your sex is like . Let's not be .
Speaker 2Alcohol .
Speaker 3Our sex is like heroin .
Speaker 1That's right .
Speaker 2That's not front Listen guys , I've never had a penis . I'm not arguing this with you .
Speaker 1Thank you .
Speaker 2I'm not going to argue this with you , right , i'm not .
Speaker 3The evidence is there . You can't argue it . Evidence is there .
Speaker 2Evidence is there . I'm just speaking for , for maybe it's not equal , but I'm just saying if married men want sex all the time , make us come , make us worth our while , help around like And again , i've never been married , right , i could just say once I say I do , i'll make me , you're the sexy when you come into your man .
Speaker 3But I think , well , i think what I was saying up behind you , baby .
Speaker 2I think what I would , what I was saying and what you're saying is kind of the same .
Speaker 3But OK , I would wonder if you are that guy that don't have to make his wife come every single time . you fuck her But she still don't want to have sex all the time .
Speaker 3It's someone out there that you could make him come in less than 30 seconds . Right , but they still don't want to have sex every day . So that goes to show that you don't feel sex the way I feel it , because I want to , and when I come I want to feel that same feeling 10 minutes later . Give me Let me rest . If I'm not so , i could go again , if I'm not so , i could keep going . I would try to screw into my shit . Don't work , no more .
Speaker 2You , you , women are not going to do that , you wouldn't be like I'm dry , i don't want to do it , no more . Let's just stop , let's do it , Let's do it .
Speaker 3We could do it next Friday , No guys ?
Speaker 1no , guys Talk like that . God , i don't know We play . Can we do it like 10 minutes , like we wait , like me some eggs and let's go drink some water and do it again Right , we get a sugar rush . But here's how I would describe it Men , sex , women making love . Right , we can , i mean it , don't . You don't have to really even like her per se . It's sex Women , they want to make , they want to make love , they want the they want all of you know all this , you know things , peripheral stuff around it .
Speaker 1They want that which is perfectly fine too , like if a man is in love he probably enjoys a lot of that stuff too . But but we can just as easily take that hat off , that the making love hat , and put on the sex hat and boom , boom , boom , boom , 10 minutes dry and we out . And women can't do that Women not not some women can , but all women can't just put on the bang bang hat . They can put on the make love . That's , that's what they want to be , and so I'm sorry , just sex is just not equal ?
Speaker 3It is not . And you know what ? I was reading the article . I don't care , i remember it was , it was just random . So they were saying how , even if you look at the gay community , you get two gay gay men and two , two lesbians . And they said , statistically , the two gay men are more physical and sexual than the two lesbian .
Speaker 1That , that's science , that's science .
Speaker 3So a lesbian relationship , and you tend to talk to them as more of a emotional type of thing . The emotional attachment is not , it's not based off of sex . It's some lesbian that I heard that don't even even engage in .
Speaker 2I've heard about lesbian sex . Women can come nonstop . Men can only come once .
Speaker 3What How ?
Speaker 2Who told you that You need a break ? Oh , no , no , I see you say .
Speaker 3So yeah , that's true , yeah , right , yeah , yeah , yeah which is a miracle .
Speaker 1I'm like , oh God , that must be so amazing that you can just come over Over .
Speaker 2It is pretty amazing , But you know what ?
Speaker 4But it is No sometimes it's the point where you're like , OK , that's enough . No , but it's it .
Speaker 3But it proves my point , but it proves my point though . But it proves my point then , because if you guys could come multiple times , like that and still no , it proves my point . It proves my point , if you guys could do multiple comes back and back .
Speaker 4It's different , though , and then and and be OK . But if I came like that back to back . I would like .
Speaker 1I would die , like I would be so drained I would too , if there was no thing . So God did it perfectly Right . He said , man , once you come , you got to , you got to sit down .
Speaker 3You got to sit down . You're going to faint .
Speaker 2Right , you got this woman unsatisfied and have a seat Right . Go to sleep , she will go use her vibrator until you're ready to start this up again .
Speaker 4It's time for you to go to sleep , Yeah .
Speaker 1God was a little biased in that guy . I don't know God , i can't question .
Speaker 4But he's a little bit biased , but he knows what he's doing , he knows exactly what he's doing .
Speaker 1Thank you , brother , but it's true .
Speaker 3But you know , it's just so . The whole the whole dating thing is all we all know is it's a sex game , a sex game , game of five .
Speaker 5No , I mean not always , Not always , Oh here you go .
Speaker 1Come on , Twan , give it up .
Speaker 2You've been very quiet . Please give this your Excuse me . Let me clear my throat .
Speaker 4No pun intended . You know that .
Speaker 5But yeah , i mean not always . I do enjoy the going out and you know , hanging out and vibing and stuff like that . It doesn't always have to be that , but there are some people that I've , you know , dated and I'm like like we need to get the fuck out of here and like oh , but there's others that I just enjoy the company ?
Speaker 3Yeah , but maybe the attraction is not there because you're not attracted to them . Then I can see .
Speaker 5Oh I , I ain't going to hang it with them if I'm not attracted .
Speaker 1So are you saying that you have never , with someone who you weren't really attracted to , never crossed that line and went on anyway ? I don't believe that . even if you weren't , so there's attraction .
Speaker 5And then of course I mean you .
Speaker 1We call it a step in on landmines .
Speaker 3You never step on a landmine .
Speaker 5Right , look , it's hard to explain . So I've gone on dates where I've been attracted . We vibe very well , doesn't necessarily have to . Sometimes I'm not even thinking about that with them because the vibe is just there and I just like you know being around them . But there's others , like the one I chill with last night , like We can keep our hands off each other .
Speaker 2You got to have it Just can't Like .
Speaker 5I , instantly , when I see him , is like I'm already , like , already there , like , ok , dinner's over , let's , you know , go back .
Speaker 4I've had that before . Yeah , i understand , but don't you got it , don't . So , don't you got it first , first , don't you got it tasted first , before you were able to know that .
Speaker 3What did you want ? Theoretically , i don't know about that No both .
Speaker 2So , from a male perspective .
Speaker 1No , i can see it And know that I want it . After I get it , I may say that was right , but but just seeing it and knowing what I like and it connects Man , you know but I don't .
Speaker 3I mean at least , at least for me . I don't . I don't go out on dates or anything that I'm not already one in anyway . I didn't . Just think it's a waste of time If I don't , if I'm not looking at you and want you already . I don't want to go out on a date with you because there's nothing you could say So , let me challenge that .
Speaker 1Ok , and you , you are knowing , you , you ? but but let me . So . Let's say there's someone you weren't 100% attracted to , you weren't necessarily vibing with , but you just wanted to smash for whatever reason .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , i do it . Okay , that's what Changi is Like . I don't , that's not , you know . Yeah , it don't have to be the full pack , it don't have to be the full pack .
Speaker 3See , i don't have that many . I mean I got standards . They got to be at least a seven and above . But other than that , like . I mean like because in my mind , going into it , i'm not that fully attracted to it , so I know that that's probably gonna be the only time that we do it . You know , i mean in case the sex is good . It might kind of be like a side type of thing , but as far as me dating and having that same feeling , i might even go on dates with you , but I might have not had that feeling on the inside I don't know if you understand what I'm saying Had that feeling like , like I want to be here .
Speaker 3Like I'm here because I'm just checking the box .
Speaker 2Because you know we have .
Speaker 3I don't know , i don't know . That's my young self and my young body . I don't know , i don't know . Honestly , i mean , it sounds shallow , like you tend to find these people that It doesn't sound shallow , it sounds silly . No , it's not really silly , except if you're not doing anything . You're single , you're not doing anything . Okay , if you're mini dating Yeah , you're mini dating , like you know , like , so I can't You should not waste time .
Speaker 4Right , you're wasting time .
Speaker 2I don't even . I want to say You're not , you're feeling time , Feeling time feeling .
Speaker 3You know feeling needs and stuff like that , because it is people out there that you not attract to whatsoever . But the sex is like amazing .
Speaker 2Oh , my God .
Speaker 3And those are the persons like you want to keep them around so much . Like yeah , the sex is good , but I'm just not really attractive .
Speaker 1But I need to keep you around because that's just And you do just enough to keep them around . Keep them around just enough . It's sad . it's sad , i mean , i have a friend with benefits like that .
Speaker 5Like I don't see us dating . I don't see . When I look in like from a relationship perspective , do I see us together ? No , But yeah , The physical part is The sex is good . You are fucking amazing . Yeah , exactly , So yeah .
Speaker 3But I would just wonder let's take it back to- .
Speaker 5Versus the other person that like there's chemistry , like there's like chemistry back and forth , like we just can't keep our hands on it . Do I see myself with him ? Yeah , i can possibly see myself with him . Versus the other dude is just strictly physical , like it's amazing , let's do it .
Speaker 3So let's take that guy let's take that guy that's strictly physical and that's what everybody you . Take that one person that's strictly physical . You're not really like . You don't really feel him like that . As far as the end it looks wise . They just met your sexual need . Can you see yourself with them ? Can you be like ? you know what The sex is so amazing ? Chim got nothing else that I would like . That's called Digmatized , then yes , That's a good word .
Speaker 1Think about it . Think about it because Think about it because If I had that kind of effect , though Digmatized .
Speaker 3Because we sitting here , glenn and I and Antoine , we're sitting here talking about how we need , we got these needs and we put sex at a high need And wonder if you have that one girl that looks like a pterodactyl but she's on fire when it comes to sex , Like she's going down on you every day . she's sexing every day .
Speaker 5It's just hard . It's the image thing , like do I see ?
Speaker 3you next to me .
Speaker 4No , i have to look good . Yes , i have to look good with you Like , are we going ?
Speaker 5out to social gatherings with friends and shit and family . Do I see you next to me ?
Speaker 2No no no .
Speaker 5I don't , it just would have to be a physical thing .
Speaker 2I think some people serve their purpose . Yeah , that's it .
Speaker 5Don't get me wrong he tries to . I think he's He wants more Without
Dating Expectations and Communication
Speaker 5saying it . So we're not speaking right now because he got mad at me . He's been throwing some crazy shit out like oh you know , why don't you massage me ? I'm like what the fuck ? you talking about massage ?
Speaker 5you This ain't no romantic shit , this is purely physical , Or why don't you do this ? Why the fuck ? so I'm trying to get him to say what he wants to say , like if you want more , it doesn't fucking say it . So he's not even speaking to me at all , because I wouldn't give him a fucking massage .
Speaker 3What kind of massage do you do with the massage's ?
Speaker 5dick or No ?
Speaker 4no , no , no .
Speaker 5You're a- . You're only dick is getting massaged as mine number one Secondly no , he went like a regular massage and I'm like what the fuck I said ? I worked all day too .
Speaker 3I said shit you should fucking give me a massage you're like the fuck . Wait . So he got mad because wait . So that's normally something a female would get mad , but he's switching . He's trying to play two different roles .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , I don't get it yeah he's putting two different roles .
Speaker 5I don't know if he wants more , like at this point . could we've been messing around for I don't know couple of years now , like two years maybe , off and on ?
Speaker 3And he got mad because you didn't . You said no , i'm not massaging you .
Speaker 5Yeah , i'm like the fuck .
Speaker 3I said you should massage , give me a fucking massage , You're dating that whole thing is over , like the honeymoon phase , you guys are the whole relationship , because that probably you know what and you probably won't admit it that probably would have been cute in the beginning , because if he would have asked you that for a massage , you probably would have did it in the beginning in the relationship Now that you got- .
Speaker 5No , this is the strict physical one .
Speaker 3Oh , okay , oh so he's trying to make love .
Speaker 5Oh yeah , he's doing extra , I'm fine , but admit it . Then say , hey , why don't we try going date , or blah , blah blah .
Speaker 2Because he knows you're gonna say no .
Speaker 5Don't . I'm giving you shit , I'm giving you the opportunity to say what you have to say .
Speaker 2Shoot your shot . Say what you have to say .
Speaker 5Don't fucking do stupid shit . Oh , you should massage me , give me a massage . Oh , my back hurt and all the shit . No , if we just fucking that's what we're doing , i'm not doing no extra shit . Like you're coming over to do what you need to do and then you leave it .
Speaker 3Yeah , he was testing you , he was trying to see what could , because once you massage , he'd be like oh , he massaged me , Oh , let's go out on a date now . So he's trying to see how much affection he's given you .
Speaker 4But , just like you said , come out and say the shit , just say it wait .
Speaker 5Well , i mean , i'm much older , so that's probably probably what the issue is . But I'm giving you opportunity because I'm asking questions like like , what are you talking about ? Like , what do you mean ? You know ?
Speaker 3and nothing . So maybe that's what people should do when they go out on dates . We should . Before we start this date , let me just show you what I want . Let me show you what I'm willing to give .
Speaker 2This is why we have coffee first , right , i guess ?
Speaker 3so I guess those are coffee talks For dinner , for dinner , you know what that actually , Glenn , you said that I was laughing , but that might be something Like go out , let's go for a walk .
Speaker 1A couple of times , Oh man , i would love that Just go into the walk , nice walk in the park When we could talk . We could just talk Some of my best first dates was like a nice walk in the park really getting to know the person understanding . You know likes and dislikes , but you know if you do it over food . Now it's like now everybody's trying to be on their best little behavior .
Speaker 3Make sure to use the right knives . They use the right knives and knife fork . Okay , this is the salad fork . I can use this until I have that meal .
Speaker 2It's just , it's a lot of pressure right , Like I'm paying for this meal . I might have to see this guy again . He paid for this expensive meal .
Speaker 5Like you know , it's just a lot of pressure , applebees , right , you know what ? If that , okay , let me ask you this ?
Speaker 3Does the place matter to y'all ? Like , if this say to the guy that he said you know what ? I'm gonna take you to Boston Market , would that matter ? I'm gonna do it . It would matter . I think it would matter .
Speaker 2Let's be honest , it would matter if we go , if we do coffee , we do a park or walk in the park , and then you take me to like , like Right , if we're doing this preliminary stuff to decide if you're gonna invest in a dinner , then hopefully you'll put some thought that you said that invest in a dinner I love that .
Speaker 2Definitely is investment and now if we're just going like straight , just straight up date , or you know what I mean Like okay , fine , applebee's or whatever , like a first date or whatever , fine , you don't have to go hard . But I think if you're , if you're doing the preliminary stuff to get to know the person and try to see how you vibe , so what do you mean ?
Speaker 3What do you mean is what do you mean effort ? because a person like me is like I'm gonna go to Applebee's not because it's cheaper and they like that . I'm gonna go there because it's the food is good . So I'm gonna go wherever the food is good . So if it happens to be a cheaper places and then cheaper place because me , because I think women , when you think like , oh , he took me to his restaurant , he paid $300 on me , that really doesn't mean anything like like , but if I thought about I'm going to this meal because you know what you We went on these long walks was having coffee . You talked about how you was really conscious of what you eat . I want to go here because the meals are better . It's cheaper , but it's better , right ?
Speaker 2If I , if we went out for coffee , we went walking on Through the park or whatever , we have a conversation . I tell you . You know what , glenn ? My favorite food is Mediterranean food and if you put that effort into saying finding a Mediterranean restaurant , i don't give a shit about what the price is right you paid attention to that detail . That's what's important that I see that that is paying attention to you deserve that , yeah , i think
Speaker 1that's especially if you pass , if you pass the coffee test correct you know , if you're good with going out for coffee and you like , oh sure , that's brilliant , we can go have drinks or whatever and that's okay with you . That shows me that you're you know , you're not you know It's not all about what you can get initially , especially because we don't really know each other . It's about let's compromise , let's see if there's a vibe and we can go from there . That man That's worth its weight and gold . You kind of see a lot about a person just simple .
Speaker 2You know what ?
Speaker 3this day and age . It's not about because you see the , the best-looking girl , get she doing you get the Alicia keys . Oh , you know Beyonce been cheating on so I Don't think it's about the catch . I really want to think about the catch . I think it's about what is what's going on in that moment with that person , that guy . Because And because I right now me thinking , i said now whatever cheater over y'all in my mind I say no but much you , but once I get with her , Men are as faithful as their options , right And but I also think it's about circumstances and we had a .
Speaker 2We had an episode about this right like do all men cheat ? I think , at some point . I don't think that all men cheat in every relationship . It depends on how they're feeling fulfilled in that point in time .
Speaker 3I'm going to disagree with you because I know I'm more guys than you probably do . Okay , i believe that every guy cheats . I just think when you get a guy that don't cheat is because he just ran out of cheating . He's don't want to do it no more . But I guess I've just just my firm believe . I have not . I'm not , he passed the stage he either passed the stage or he's on . He's on , he's hibernating , or something like that .
Speaker 2I don't know , i'm not .
Speaker 3I want to say that because I don't want people to you know , but I'm be honest with you . I Had , i thought I met a guy that didn't cheat and then when that person cheated , i just knew It . Guys cheat like it , just yeah like what you want .
Speaker 3You know , i know guys that don't cheat on a wise right now , but I know that he cheated in the beginning . So it just , it just a matter . He just ran out of options or just don't , he just got tired of doing it . But I just , i believe all guys have not met a guy yet . I swear to God , i've not met a guy yet .
Speaker 1Well , to my future ex-wife .
Speaker 3I .
Speaker 1Ties have got a point , i think . I think cheating is Man . Cheating is like a weird muscle that every man has that Usually will get exercise for right for that right .
Speaker 1It just , it just happens , even to the best men that have the best intention , that love their wives or girlfriends to death . It's just something , that's a gene that you can't get out of you , and when you don't , it's , it's , it's almost like you're in this space that says , you know , the world kind of freezes and yet in that part of it like that , that part that makes your drive and desire It just freezes for some point in time , i don't know how , and it's very , very small percentage , but but . But that's the case . Now You can also , you know , be very . You can deny yourself , right , you can . You can say I will not go out of this lane And I'm gonna do my very , very best to stay in this lane , but , man , it's gonna be pulling you hard .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's definitely .
Speaker 1Well , you know only the only the super , super , super , super slim elite can survive that .
Speaker 3But yeah , i mean I do . I believe that all guys cheated on , no , but I believe that they either got caught one time and he just couldn't . Days like that was the worst experience . I don't want to do it again , but they always want it and so I don't know . If I'm thinking about it , do you think it's cheating ? if I'm thinking about it , is that cheating to you ? like I'm your man and I'm just thinking about fucking you , just your sister can't be .
Speaker 2It can't be your sister .
Speaker 3Yeah , i wouldn't want to know those thoughts but wonder if I'm gonna tell you , do you , would you consider that cheating ?
Speaker 2you find it disrespectful , don't okay ? Well , what I'm trying ?
Speaker 3to say is that a lot of guys a lot , a lot of guys . I know I'm not gonna say a lot of guys think about their , their , their wives , sister , but a lot of guys , a lot of guys , always , they're constantly thinking about cheating . Yes , so you know to me , if you're thinking about it , then you probably could do it , but they should be given . You put your mind to anything , but a man should be given credit for .
Speaker 1For if a man is his , his natural proclivity is the cheat , but he denies himself 95% of the time that should be that's .
Speaker 3That should be good count right
Gender Dynamics and Cheating in Relationships
Speaker 3now .
Speaker 1Here's the here's the here's the bombshell . I think women cheat just as much as men , and let me tell you why . Okay , because if a woman , if a woman cheats with a man , there's never a time that that man is going to tell . That's always gonna be a secret , that's always kept .
Speaker 1Yes , do it in the office , in a , in a side room or whatever . That man will always keep that secret . On the other hand , when a man cheats with a woman , the woman has the tendency to run out and tell , and that's how things get on this stuff .
Speaker 4The house was like loose lip . She's right , i think .
Speaker 1Women cheat just as much as I do too and we just don't know about it , because it never leaves .
Speaker 3Right and in . The men will never tell you this , because women's got selective . They got selective memory , though , because they they could tell you about all the guys that he didn't In past , but they the guy that they had sex with last week . They forgot about them because they didn't like .
Speaker 2They didn't like the sex . They like because they don't count it .
Speaker 1I can't count . I'm not even on my list . I didn't even go on my list . The sex wasn't good .
Speaker 3I heard a girl told me before that the sex wasn't good and that's why I don't count . And she was dead-ass here . She's like oh , i should , i had sex with , but that don't count .
Speaker 4I would agree with that . Well , that's what I'm saying . So , women so .
Speaker 2Mac is on or something . Women , i think women , women .
Speaker 3You guys a trifle .
Speaker 1I can't , i can't , you guys , you guys are trash Every time I talk to y'all it pulls me further , further away from marriage . That's what y'all know . That for the record .
Speaker 2I feel the same way about talking to you .
Speaker 4I'm disgusted right now .
Speaker 2I have seen that on your face actually I have glanced over and you're like .
Speaker 3Like what is like . Do y'all live in a fantasy world ? No okay , so what do you like ? What do you think ? What do you think it is like ?
Speaker 1Please do tell me .
Speaker 3I'm just curious , like what do you think , what do you like ?
Speaker 1what are your thoughts about ?
Speaker 4like guys are cheating and I think People , if they're gonna cheat , i think it just just like Glamis saying like we're not equal . That's how most men think like I'm above you , i should be able to do what I need to do , cuz .
Speaker 3I don't think , i don't think he meant it like that .
Speaker 1No , I really didn't .
Speaker 2What nobody would have articulated like that .
Speaker 4So I just mean that like design , like nature .
Speaker 1Design is sex is not an equal thing , right , it's not . I mean , men Desire it more and they probably get a better feeling than women . It's just the way nature is right .
Speaker 4This is . That's a natural , to go to my point . It was good for the goose , should be good for the gander . I agree , that's all I'm saying This women's I think .
Speaker 2I think women now in 2023 , want Egalitarian relationships .
Speaker 1Yes , that's why we got , men don't . That's why we got .
Speaker 4That's why we got that man can't imagine in their brain , correct , sharing their woman . But we're supposed to imagine in our brain sharing our man , correct ?
Speaker 1That's . That's why we got blurred genderism . Now , right Like it's . It's kind of turning into a there is no sex anymore , like meaning gender sex is just like .
Speaker 4I was , like you , talking about the woman . That's correct . There is no sex .
Gender Roles and Cultural Influence
Speaker 1My god .
Speaker 2I think that more , most women want egalitarian Relationships , but I do think that that has a lot to do with just like where we are right . When we talk about women making more money , like I think in the 1960s , men were the providers , like you had different gender roles , and now you have women that are Are the breadwinners , and then you have men that want women who are traditional and and so that needs to be established in the beginning Of a dating relationship or a serious relationship , like are we gonna be traditional ? Are we gonna be egalitarian ? and then we need to figure that out .
Speaker 1I think You can't be that careful , because every culture is not like that . Like if you look at an Asian culture , that's not the case . If you look in the most of the white culture , that's not the case . It's really the , the black , maybe Hispanic cultures , that that's the case , where women are just becoming so much more . And that's a whole nother story of how that's happening .
Speaker 2I think it's American , i think for Latin culture is . I think it's pretty . Men are the providers and women take care of home . We women , latina women , are bred to take care of their men . It's just in my household growing up . I did all you know yeah . I was responsible for chores , and while my brother was also responsible for chores , he didn't have as much of an impact if he didn't do ?
Speaker 1I did .
Speaker 2Yeah , it was different You know , if a man comes to my house , if I'm , if I have a Entertaining , and my father and my brother come to my house , those are the first people that I'm serving right ? You know , here let me serve your plate and I think that we are , we're just bred that way . So I think , at least for Latino culture .
Speaker 1Yes , good point , that's a good point . Culture is a big .
Speaker 3Yeah so what did y'all take away ?
Speaker 2Stay single baby And mini date mini date .
Speaker 1Mini date like mini dating he's over here , quiet , living his best , fucking yeah .