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I want to thank you"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3237.73,"endTime":3241.87,"body":"for everything you've done and"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3241.87,"endTime":3245.29,"body":"not to mention, you've given me"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3241.87,"endTime":3245.29,"body":"more than an hour of your time."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3245.65,"endTime":3250.93,"body":"And it was a real pleasure."},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3245.65,"endTime":3250.93,"body":"Really, my pleasure. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Jason Connell","startTime":3250.93,"endTime":3252.16,"body":"man. Take care."},{"speaker":"Bud S. Smith","startTime":3252.19,"endTime":3253.57,"body":"Alright. 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