Jodie Prenger: It's a Fine Life

In the third episode of the ‘Brewing Actors’ podcast, Adam Robert Lewis talks with Jodie Prenger. Jodie shot to fame during BBC’s ‘I’d Do Anything’ in search of ‘Nancy’ for the London revival of Oliver produced by Cameron Mackintosh. Jodie was chosen by the voting public making her West End dream a reality. Since ‘I’d Do Anything’ Jodie has continually reinforced that she really can do anything from musicals to plays to TV. Jodie has conquered all the mediums. Jodie is currently returning to the National Theatre in their  production of ‘A Taste of Honey’ which is running until February 27. If you are looking for a fun and honest account of the ups and downs of life in the arts, this is the episode for you.

Transcript

Adam Robert Lewis:   0:06
Hi, I'm Adam Robert Lewis, and you're listening to Brewing Actors podcast, my chance to talk to actors to hear their stories,  what inspired their performances and what decisions or relationships influenced their work? On today's episode...

Jodie Prenger:   0:25
Made a conscious decision to maybe not do some things because I want to show, though, as we collectively are more than just this. You know, we don't just sing and dance, you know, we can adapt to all the areas because it is no matter what is entertainment. 

Adam Robert Lewis:   0:44
 My guest today is Jodie Prenger. Jodie shot to fame during 'I Do Anything'. A program in search of Nancy for the London revival of 'Oliver' Jodie was chosen by the voting public, making her West End dream a reality. Since I do anything, Jodie has continually reinforced that you really can do anything from musicals to plays to TV. Jodie has conquered all the mediums. Today, Jodie is currently returning to the National Theatre in their production of a 'Taste of Honey'. I caught up with Jodie at the Trafalgar Studios in London. So, like any story we have to start at the very beginning. This is episode three of Brewing Actors podcast.

Jodie Prenger:   1:47
Hello. I'm Jodie Christine Pre nger that even my middle name and I was born in a little town where you can have lots of fish and chips and a donkey ride Basically pay called Blackpool. You could then can't now. Yeah, I grew up there for many years. I mean, being a 21 year old now, it's, you know, just yesterday. But the it was it was a brilliant town and it was you know what I stand by? It was a brilliant town for being, Ah, hop off entertainment. And I I don't think I know that's what got me kind of into the love of kind of live entertainment in general.

Adam Robert Lewis:   2:29
Is that something you saw a lot on the weekends? Was it something you winter?

Jodie Prenger:   2:32
I remember them saying and queuing up for the summer seasons off the Brian Connelly's Arose habits and Shirley Bassey ease and the cue, you know, for for hours just to go see these stars on the pay's, whether it be in the Winter Garden Theater to the ground 30 it was It was a brilliant hub on. There was always entertainment going in all the hotels I grew up in a hotel. That's not my parents. Put me and we all live together. And we did have a house from some way used to have acts. Comment. And I remember the first act I ever watched was a drag queen by the name of Jackie Lester. I like I can still see now I'm singing my boy early, but I was, like, different than millions. I want to be a drug queen. I've come close, but the m I just think it was all that. It was all that kind of excitement.

Adam Robert Lewis:   3:28
You got the bug of the Young Ages. Yeah, you do drama at school. Was it something that you did?

Jodie Prenger:   3:34
No. Big. Well, yes, we did, but I went to a girl school. So all the roles I played thanks to being a trouble over, I played a lot of male roles. What? So from everything from Gilbert and Sullivan Thio to play in Phantom at your place? Yeah. I played your part, Donna,

Adam Robert Lewis:   3:57
for in the school production.

Jodie Prenger:   3:58
Just see, You know, if I want a nice half, she's that way. Did it like, Oh, you're so funny. We did. This course is a girl school. We had this like big fashion show what we did. It all connects musicals. There are literally went from being must, you know, like it's in our d A to found him and everything. But

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:15
what were you like with other sort of classes at school?

Jodie Prenger:   4:20
Um, I was always the one

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:24
where you academic?

Jodie Prenger:   4:25
Yeah. Cooper. Yeah. Got all a stars. People shocked. Don't put it in there

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:31
because I wasn't toast. No, no, no. I told some friends. Yeah, I think it'll pass me by my parents. Really? I just I just was I was just a bit I think I just couldn't I didn't know what they were on a boat.

Jodie Prenger:   4:46
I don't think it's necessarily

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:47
maybe not.

Jodie Prenger:   4:48
Calling self thick is applying. Don't want apply yourself to it.

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:51
Maybe not, but I just didn't have a clue what they were on about at all. I just didn't get it.

Jodie Prenger:   4:55
Where did you have a difficult job, Mom? Now into a

Adam Robert Lewis:   4:59
well school. But I think, actually, I just I just wasn't, I think go into a well school, actually. Very difficult if you aren't very academic because you have double the subjects you've gotta do, we owe you English. Obviously you're learning all the subjects in Welsh, right? And I just found it very, very difficult so that my parents were We just don't know what you're gonna do, but I just didn't have a clear. I'd just be in my own thoughts in the class, and then they black. Right, madam? What is some, uh, algebra? Oh, did it did it? Or square root of something. I just didn't have a clue. Was too busy dreaming about something else. You

Jodie Prenger:   5:39
have not drama at your school. Was it? Kind of.

Adam Robert Lewis:   5:41
Yeah, he did a lot of drama

Jodie Prenger:   5:43
did that.

Adam Robert Lewis:   5:43
Obviously, a lot of my step of its, which is sort of like welsh competitions. But I just didn't have the I don't have the confidence. So I didn't do any robbery school. Nothing. I would be the last person to get up. Did you want

Jodie Prenger:   5:58
to? But you just didn't know you had. I think

Adam Robert Lewis:   5:59
so. I just didn't know how you go how to go about it. So I'm always interested whether you know, if you were an academic where you sort of, you know, swayed to maybe going a different direction.

Jodie Prenger:   6:12
No, I think it was, You know, it was a great it was a great school. Um, it closed like my am college did as well. I don't know what it says about May um, it seems we after left said the we were always kind of really supported on. We were supported through maths and biology, and so far that I just didn't have the inclination for it. All right. And to be honest, I didn't really have the inclination for for anything I loved English, loved it, looked art, actually wanted to go be an animator for Disney. But my brother's got the eyes. The most amazing artist. So had all these kind of things would just didn't There wasn't a lot off. Um, I'm gonna put it. There wasn't a lot of source for May to kind of go and do drama or goes, and I actually the first ever audition I did. Which half the girls got really bully for you after this? Because they fell out because I got in and she didn't, which is horrible.

Adam Robert Lewis:   7:08
Is this way your primary or secondary?

Jodie Prenger:   7:10
This is when we're m senior school, right? Seniors on dhe, we I auditioned for the national youth. It right. We have speech and drama with Ms Preston calories later on. Dhe I got in on then I actually remember going there. Um, we we, uh we rehearsed it. Tufnell Park was, like, finally kiss other people like May. And it was like it was like going into Willy Wonka's chocolate factors like, yeah, my people. And it's a weird feeling of going yesterday

Adam Robert Lewis:   7:44
from the crowd.

Jodie Prenger:   7:46
Yeah, they just got it. I could be myself when you could kind of, you know, let you guard down Almost then. Just kind of Yeah, they just felt well, I was gonna say normal. I've never been normal, but I just felt like, Yeah, this is definitely I know what I know what I want to do. Now that

Adam Robert Lewis:   8:02
So what was that? The production did you do with them?

Jodie Prenger:   8:05
There was some sort of time. Machines are covered with the name of a deficit in 1946. And

Adam Robert Lewis:   8:12
was it like a summer course?

Jodie Prenger:   8:14
They know they did like productions of years, so they want the same thing. I didn't do the national the musical for to the And why Am T But I did the National Theatre. I actually really enjoyed Shakespeare, were doing the M speech and drama, so I just loved doing all that side of it really

Adam Robert Lewis:   8:32
on hold. Do you, then?

Jodie Prenger:   8:33
Uh, gosh. Six days, 16.

Adam Robert Lewis:   8:38
So, did you plan to go to drama school, or did you plan to go toe?

Jodie Prenger:   8:42
It was weird. I went to d o B Tech horse

Adam Robert Lewis:   8:44
right in Blackpool.

Jodie Prenger:   8:46
Further out, I said Port ST Tons on. It was great. You know, they did it. Quite. It was a really good cause. Well, I just didn't. I was too scared to leave home like you. Is that kind of fear of I don't know. I didn't really know what I wanted to do when there wasn't a great kind of it wasn't a lot of information and to kind of push kids in that way. Well, yeah. I just didn't really want to leave home.

Adam Robert Lewis:   9:12
We're your parents pushing you to go down that avenue?

Jodie Prenger:   9:16
No. Dead supportive, right? Yeah. Really supported

Adam Robert Lewis:   9:20
whatever you wanted to do. They would back.

Jodie Prenger:   9:21
Yeah, I think that's what you do. That's what you need More than anything you want. What about your parents know they were supportive I think they were. Actually, they know they were

Adam Robert Lewis:   9:30
supportive. I think they were disappointed. Or my grandparents who disappointed that I didn't want to do drama. They paid for me to go to stage coach. Yeah. My mother said we're not paying for you anymore, because you just you just not interested on this, you know? You just you know yet, So I just It took me a while to convince myself. I think they're right. This is what I really wanted to do. So I became a graphic designer. I just really didn't have the confidence. I really did. I have the confidence in my bedroom. You put me in front of people, and it just

Jodie Prenger:   10:07
I don't want to know why I discussed. Yeah,

Adam Robert Lewis:   10:14
but no, it Wasit was very good. Very good in them in the

Jodie Prenger:   10:18
shower. Just one of the

Adam Robert Lewis:   10:19
high just wasn't very good that

Jodie Prenger:   10:23
were involved in the Theatre Royal.

Adam Robert Lewis:   10:24
No. Nor

Jodie Prenger:   10:26
was it the people that you hung around with. You didn't feel like he could sound

Adam Robert Lewis:   10:30
really know. They were very sports oriented. And I was just did I tried rugby. I tried football, I trying or sorts of things, skateboarding Yeah, I just want trying to fit in because that ah, lot of the boys that I used to bother with just went really interested in theater. But my grand dad was a musical director and sang at the Mirror Voice Choir like a groupie. So I just went around with him. Yeah. So I spend more time with Auntie's on clothes. Um, who'll loved theater, you know, Michael ball at the time. So I was always listening to those records. And now don't

Jodie Prenger:   11:06
worry, Mima. Grand romantic Open convention rights.

Adam Robert Lewis:   11:08
So then I But I don't know, I just I got to about 23 24 I thought, this really is not what I want to do any more.

Jodie Prenger:   11:17
Really? I think when you were doing the graph it

Adam Robert Lewis:   11:21
yeah, yeah, I did some amateur dramatics and somebody said, Oh, you should do This is a Korea. Yeah, and I thought off. Do you even go about doing that?

Jodie Prenger:   11:29
What did you do? What did you

Adam Robert Lewis:   11:30
I just traveled to London every day every Saturday for singing lessons. I didn't have for about two years try to get an agent, couldn't get an agent, and then somebody said. You know what? Maybe just trying audition for drama school, and I do. I got in, I got an agent and then I got my

Jodie Prenger:   11:48
Did you get your agent at lead? Likely duty?

Adam Robert Lewis:   11:51
Because Wow. Yeah, I know I didn't get an agent at all. And there was a director I work with who said, Have you got any interest? I said, No, absolutely no. And it's like a cattle market, and

Jodie Prenger:   12:03
I know it's horrible is the thing that heard It definitely is horrible. It must be the most petrifying thing to step on that stage. You just fresh out of college and then go, I'm in. I'm in a room with a sea of people who could decide my future, I think is the most. Don't

Adam Robert Lewis:   12:21
just walk out into the little bar area where there's a will, this finger food and everybody's getting a drink.

Jodie Prenger:   12:27
You couldn't have been good.

Adam Robert Lewis:   12:29
You're gonna be queuing up on No. One single person approached me and there's not sort of walk would look of like her high well done. And that was it. But I left thinking,

Jodie Prenger:   12:39
but then you look at that, Phoebe, you know, the flea But, you know, when she did the there was a brilliant article that kind of so kind of Sean this fact Albert, she was pictured that I would like a terrible review for Edinburgh Fringe on her sat with all the buff does. I think, having that think in this industry more than anything, it's having that belief restaurant just to get through to the next day. Toph on. Don't let anybody else tell you tell you any different from the people at the tippy top thio Everyone who works and that's technicians, Crew. You know, musicians. It is a hard industry, but it's great when it's great.

Adam Robert Lewis:   13:17
Yeah, absolutely. So to go back to, um, the

Jodie Prenger:   13:21
escape. I have to keep

Adam Robert Lewis:   13:23
the drama the drama school. So you did the B tech. Yeah, but

Jodie Prenger:   13:27
then I deduced it. Thio used to have pink Jeep at the time. I mean, Madam, there was up in June with the wife with the right road. Did I think ours with on the back. Okay, Hud, I had another idea. Airbrush rumor and Florida, cause I did, um a picture of paint. Raina. A pink rhino was called the pink lady. Oh, on these people still at home. Go, you. So how about Pinky when I go? Yes. Yes, I did. How tractors is that? But yeah, I used to. Is it skies? I deduce this guy. Oh, yeah, I was just very.

Adam Robert Lewis:   14:04
I used to love that. You know, when you get up in the morning and you get your shed roll through for the week I used to enjoy I shouldn't really say they're supposed to be like Right. Well, I know going to that class used to text in the boy's years ago. We got a free day.

Jodie Prenger:   14:17
Is that is that there's a lady in a bumped into one of the teachers, Angela. I used to I used to be so cocky, used away for later. So, boy, the nice lady back in a minute. And, uh,

Adam Robert Lewis:   14:29
so did you always attend the drama classes, or were you skiving Those in the know

Jodie Prenger:   14:33
a data? I know I did. I did. Yes, I did. I did. I did attend them. And I did really enjoy them. And, um

Adam Robert Lewis:   14:43
So what was the advice from the sort of teaching staff? Were they saying this is something you should be doing

Jodie Prenger:   14:49
Yeah, there was. There was one that wanted to try and get me to be, not percent go copy Bother with no friends. I am. Yeah, it was just kind of just to pursue it, But then it was almost still. Then I still didn't really know what I went to my dad. God, love. My dad used to take me to London for all these auditions on. Then, bizarrely, I got an agent, you know, called trends. Who said Mitchell these auditions. But some of them had walk in. I thought, Guys, I don't think we're singing on Simon Perry chair right to build, you know, like six foot kind of stick thin, no kicking the legs beyond the ray Lopez not cracking your knuckles going on about this. So it's all that kind of but still kept going. And I think through every audition you learn every experience you learn. Everything you do is

Adam Robert Lewis:   15:39
you kind of went straight into the sort of audition in stage off the industry. So you sort of bypassed maybe going to a traditional London drama school straight into do in auditions

Jodie Prenger:   15:50
to be tech, or I actually did the beat. Of course, and then I did. Then they just started a new musical fair. To course Berlian started on that I'm on. It was one of those that a lot of people from our previous years over we studied. They kind of they had left. And he didn't go into this. That and it was like people from everywhere. I got the lead in a risk. No, really, I'm laughing here. But it wasn't

Adam Robert Lewis:   16:19
why Why would you believe?

Jodie Prenger:   16:20
Uh, because Because I was given the main roles. I'm on dhe. Things like my mike was turned off on DDE had wrong girl with a fist in my face and I was like, Well, this is no, this is not for May. It's just I don't feel like that against other people. I don't I don't entice people to have

Adam Robert Lewis:   16:43
them celebrate. Other people's victory

Jodie Prenger:   16:44
should be nice. I'll around the room, you know, slap him across the face and tell him to bugger off. That's made. But yeah, I find that really hard. And I couldn't from having two great years at B Tech course, and I was so much fun, I found that really hard to go into a space where I didn't feel safe. Andi, I did carry on Do my auditions and a diddle the Blackpool for Kurt on a lot of the kind of the gay bars across the across the contra travel Quiet. But I'm just really looked up because I was singing songs from the show and unknown tell the story

Adam Robert Lewis:   17:23
of a a tough crowd.

Jodie Prenger:   17:24
Well, I always tell this story the 1st 1 I remember my dad loaded all again into this Manchester Working Men's Club. And there was, like about the honestly, they were there at the front row, you know, get the tinfoil sandwiches out and tinfoil sandwiches. I mean, the sandwiches todo when everybody My name is Jodi More. That was well stage because actually, Michael Barrymore, you gave me a break. Another story. And how long have you got on them? A little time. When does anyone like songs from the shows?

Adam Robert Lewis:   18:04
On the kind

Jodie Prenger:   18:05
of like something No one. No, I know what this is. Don't cry for may. Still defiant, defiant. Think I am defying

Adam Robert Lewis:   18:16
because a few people in, uh uh, memoirs are biographies I've read about. People have sort of done that circuit. Yeah, it it hardens you into giving. You don't fix skin. I guess times have been able to withstand a really tough audience. Yeah, Sometimes audiences changed. You get a good audience. You're gonna, you know, you get a bad audience. So what was the what was the next step for you in terms of the break was about a more program or with

Jodie Prenger:   18:43
yeah, but it wasn't No, I think it was the I did. There was a little clip in the local gazette saying, Do you want to go to New York? After I got to New York, I wanted to the shows to apply for a travel show in Granada. And we've got it. And I got to go. My mom on a cell. Bernadette Peters in. Annie, get your gun

Adam Robert Lewis:   19:03
right when you say you applied. Was the desiccated Philip form send it?

Jodie Prenger:   19:08
Yeah, and they come in the interview with the light year, Will, Will will say quantity to New York, which was made

Adam Robert Lewis:   19:15
to you, Gloria. So what? So what was the trip? Just

Jodie Prenger:   19:18
just video you

Adam Robert Lewis:   19:19
going around New York

Jodie Prenger:   19:21
at the top of the Empire State Building to ourselves on dhe. It was fantastic. And then it was from that that some of the research is just like me. And then they said, Do you wanna come on Darwin to the other half and and then because they some of the researchers in that like me that if you wanna come in, do be like the actress fool the first ever Saturday night takeaway. So I was on that, and I write, so did all of a sudden

Adam Robert Lewis:   19:48
it was kind of like a snowball effect.

Jodie Prenger:   19:51
Yeah, it was really And I think it is still a time I'm still auditioning and I always remember, always remember that I went out for Tracy, turn blood, And it was the first time it was coming over here when

Adam Robert Lewis:   20:04
it went to the Western shops.

Jodie Prenger:   20:06
There was one time it came in before, and then it got cancelled on the kit. Came back Willie on another couple of years after that. So got right the way down. And I always remember David Graham not coming out and just go. Not this time. So your heart and he was so I will never be able to find that money offer beer so, so lovely to make and it really? Waas. And you kind of, you know, your bins A lot of auditions where they just didn't have that time fear or they didn't, you know? Want to kind of even negotiate your hands sometimes. So to have that it really won't know hot. But it broke. It broke it as well.

Adam Robert Lewis:   20:44
So were you good at Audition it back then?

Jodie Prenger:   20:49
Probably not. I play my I am really bad auditions now, right? Oh, Carson can't stand, um, absolutely petrified. It's that pressure off the three minutes, but you have to have with them. I'm going to not go into rehearsal room and do off the bank.

Adam Robert Lewis:   21:09
I'm exactly the way I Yeah, I've always got this rehearsed speech about I'm really good. I'm not so good in the audition. But please, I'll be amazing. Be so I'm trying. Yeah.

Jodie Prenger:   21:24
I am not going to say who was involved, but it was a very reputable company. I was just I was I got the verbal diarrhea. Hi, guys. I don't know why I'm just really bad auditions. I'm so so right. Just telling I'm going. Listen, don't I'm in this one because I had just come out my mouth, and I wouldn't hire me. I just don't know going. Why are you saying that? Like a lot. Just being really honest. Yeah, there was, um, another audition that I got asked to come in for. And the lady who wrote her said she wanted me to come in to play his part. Brilliant. She must, you know, vision. Can you do this? This accent? Can you do a Birmingham accent? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Course. Come. No. No word toe. Well, I literally, um I went in, I went to skate nous. I took a trip around to your neck of the woods. Wales. I think it's a part of it in Japanese. And then I ended up somewhere in Liverpool, but it definitely wasn't anywhere near Birmingham, so I I really don't I can't say I'm surprised I get stuff when I have been in their own audition. Yeah, it's weird.

Adam Robert Lewis:   22:33
So I suppose the Nancy program, when you say you don't like auditioning, that has to be one of the worst audition process in terms off. There are thousands of people auditioning. It's it's videoed on broadcast to nine people like, I literally it's just I could never do that. I would just

Jodie Prenger:   22:54
I but the we think is, and this is what I say. Manana always says if it's meant for you, it will not Pasha by a day believe that. I think there was some. Well, actually, I'm not. When we went back into audition, guess who was on the audition panel, which was dated Greenland. Ana, remember? Go prepared the whole speech. Come on. Just just stay calm. Stay calm. What You're singing. I'm gonna sing. Um, I live on those days yet a heart that you didn't have. The one from the enemy, you know? But don't start it in a cave. That's gonna wonder. Making counts cry. So I'm knew where I was going with that I could feel my heart, like, go in my mom's sweater Go did I can't sing I can't sing that high. And then I just said, Guys, I'm so sorry. Cast off again and then a song I don't rent him a parade, So even in that audition, I totally messed up. All right, I got it. So it's just think of getting through that dark on even when we did the like the like the live audition in front of people. I kind of cringe in a Oh, Joey, why did you take your shoes off? Why don't you take that out of £5 ticker in my shoes and I just Sometimes I want to shake myself. Just go. Well, then, if I did it, I just wouldn't stop playing May, That's yeah, Yeah.

Adam Robert Lewis:   24:14
Were you struggling to get before the Nancy program? Were you at a crossroads in terms of struggling to get work on one, getting the work that you wanted to get?

Jodie Prenger:   24:23
It was really weird because I was, I want to do I worked an awful lot and low to gay bars, and I was doing really well without really enjoying it. And then I went to work for Disney on the cruise ships, and I did the shows for them on that. And they were like that, I suppose, in a way, with my first real taste of cause, they have their own show, this ghost ship, which is brilliant and beautiful music on. They had Disney dreams and we did Hercules. So for me, that was my first step. Enter

Adam Robert Lewis:   24:55
off a show set off

Jodie Prenger:   24:57
total for the show. Yeah, so that was good fun. So I suppose I didn't find it hard to work. I always were. But I always wanted Thio. Do you know, being the Western state

Adam Robert Lewis:   25:07
player A role

Jodie Prenger:   25:09
play female roles? I mean anything from school. I just want to play a female. So when

Adam Robert Lewis:   25:14
they announced the first set of programs, while the first problem they did, which was to find a Maria Maria, Did you apply for that? No. You didn't think you

Jodie Prenger:   25:23
could, you know,

Adam Robert Lewis:   25:29
But were you? Now you think that that was something? If if they were auditioning for the role that would suit you, you would

Jodie Prenger:   25:36
have a job that

Adam Robert Lewis:   25:42
they did. Maria, Joseph. Nancy. Right? Sorry.

Jodie Prenger:   25:49
Really start. Just auditions. So did Maria. Joseph. Don't say Don't say I'm Jesus. Run. Which I think, actually, I think I got chicken named after. Oh, no. Jews have died. Sorry. Right. Sorry.

Adam Robert Lewis:   26:16
So you decided to audition once they announced that they were looking for a Nancy. You thought this is This is my

Jodie Prenger:   26:22
Yeah. My mom heard on my radio. I think it could be the grain on show actually on Dhe. And then that's when I applied through that. I was just a said shower I've always loved. I'm in unused to mind Thio Shoaib Asos As long as he needs me just yet. It's just something I have loved and just wanted to be part of.

Adam Robert Lewis:   26:43
What was that process like

Jodie Prenger:   26:46
scary, excited and, um, quite a turban, too. And it's like that. Like what you said. It's like having that belief in yourself. I didn't I still don't think to a certain extent I have it today, and I think that's what keeps us drive into Betty Self and in different areas. But I just think it's like that. I didn't believe that. Why would they want? Why would they want Mayo? I would give my right. So why would the one I just and then it was so lovely and very honor, and to be kind of welcomed into that home or that family that I'd always wanted to be part of.

Adam Robert Lewis:   27:22
It was a long process right from the initial audition.

Jodie Prenger:   27:25
Yeah, it was a really long process from the audition itself. Then off course, going to the D Live shows 12.

Adam Robert Lewis:   27:33
So the audition, the initial audition is that filmed or is not just a case of

Jodie Prenger:   27:39
I think he did filmer Robbie didn't necessarily think the show clips of it. If I could remember throughout the show, but they wasn't necessarily add as a separate and take.

Adam Robert Lewis:   27:49
So you got you got through to the live shows.

Jodie Prenger:   27:53
I always remember there was there was a point. So it was or under his house on it was that he was telling all the girls who made the top. Do you know the top 12

Adam Robert Lewis:   28:09
was this to get into? This is thistles. Boot camp knows

Jodie Prenger:   28:13
this is technically after boot camp. It's we're finding out from the 18 who's gonna go into the live show, so we will take into Room one at a time on. And obviously it was like it was almost like it was like a mini library kind, just to give you an idea what room was like. And then Andre was stood there. It's Jody. We've had the part of Nancy's, are emotional. It was good. That was not what was it good this time? He's gonna say on you going through so money. Things that wasn't three had he's saying this because he wants to let me down, so it's gonna be emotional for you. You're gonna have to go home when it's it's it's all negative. Negative, negative. Not like I've got this. I got there. I thought he's just trying to live down lightly, trying let me down. Like like. And when he said, Well, I think we want to build a life here was like, No, I'm gonna just again lost ever And then as a losing I didn't really know was going But behind one of the doors was Cameron muddling is why hiding, listening in when I went to go into the door lab. Wrong door around alone. Oh, God, I'm so sorry. All right. You know, it was always that kind of. It's always been a whirlwind, and I hate that word. Same rollercoaster. But it has always been that which things in weird ways. My lawful was three.

Adam Robert Lewis:   29:38
Nancy program. You're sort of chance to cement more training. Was it very her? Trina's You went

Jodie Prenger:   29:45
off with the baby said Brilliant for that boss so nurturing and we were

Adam Robert Lewis:   29:50
So did you have Second Lesson's

Jodie Prenger:   29:53
clam or Donna? We're single lessons were Kevin, yet we had it all because you got to think that we're putting on fallen productions weekly basis. So that was the group. Numbers are individual numbers sometimes, too. S so yes. So there was a lot of training throughout the whole kind

Adam Robert Lewis:   30:13
of What about training? In terms of dealing with the the press attention you have. You have You really have that amount of attention before, So it's quite new to at that point,

Jodie Prenger:   30:25
it was weed. Is that thing of going Oh, why did they want picture amaze us? Still sent out today. And But you're the press thing was bizarre, but in the end, them days and 1926 there wasn't Twitter or Facebook on. There wasn't any of that. But it was my space. There wasn't. There was an instagram Mr Sharma ironical on a thing. That was a good thing because you weren't constantly feeding and sound by you. Enjoyed the experience. Rather be going

Adam Robert Lewis:   30:58
what people say. You know what was Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you get to the final? Yeah. Did you believe?

Jodie Prenger:   31:04
No, No, Totally. Did that. Prepare your face job day. Prepare the face for disappointment

Adam Robert Lewis:   31:11
because I've rewatched the sort of your highlights? No, because I can remember watching it. I watched the more I think on duh, we voted for you. So it was, you know, you

Jodie Prenger:   31:25
cost going. No, I didn't. I

Adam Robert Lewis:   31:28
genuinely you know, people. The headlines at the time were the people's Nancy, I guess.

Jodie Prenger:   31:38
Sorry. This is This is life. Come in. Yeah, I actually got it. Sounds

Adam Robert Lewis:   31:45
like you

Jodie Prenger:   31:46
say hi.

Adam Robert Lewis:   31:50
Um, that that final lineup. And it's something that was you know, when they go, who do you believe is your Nancy? And you're both standard and the final. It's get ready. But you just like that's part of the process. I'm okay.

Jodie Prenger:   32:06
Way. I mean, I think I always exact on this sounds selling. I was just I just helped load the app it debate there. That sounds still really wasjust. Do you know what? If I literally walked about building and never stepped on a stage ever again, I feel like I've actually hard a snip it off the little dream that well, we've dreamt up on. No, that sounds really corny, but I really felt that way. I thought I just don't know some of song in front of Under and Cameron and I just made from Lit. And Blackpool is a small town, even though it is a hope of our time. But I tried so hard in trouble somewhere to London just to have that experience

Adam Robert Lewis:   32:50
of Western,

Jodie Prenger:   32:51
I would have gone away and gone. You know, I'll die a pay. It's just having that Adam. It's having, you know, that just that kind of that little all the didn't believe him, and I know that sounds really silly, but it's just it's just lovely to have that I'll always cherish that always Well,

Adam Robert Lewis:   33:07
so what? What happened when you got it? You know, you

Jodie Prenger:   33:10
I wouldn't have found out. I can't remember half of that line, right? I think I went into some sort of weird people said you remember doing that. I actually don't remember. I think I went into genuine, honest shock, and that is honest to God. Truth.

Adam Robert Lewis:   33:27
So you had a few period like the show finishes on. Then you don't start rehearsals till, what? Three or four months later.

Jodie Prenger:   33:34
And then I went on the

Adam Robert Lewis:   33:36
thin the limb is So the idea was, that was that Cameron's idea to just

Jodie Prenger:   33:41
cameras idea went to do it? Of course. Some, of course. Roger that because it was Shakespeare. And then I went to do four weeks in the West End, and I think that was to get me to, you know, into the routine of He's tough Isn't an eight show where

Adam Robert Lewis:   33:56
it is hard,

Jodie Prenger:   33:57
just anybody. Teoh, right? Come on, let's get up. Get a slap on. What was that

Adam Robert Lewis:   34:01
like though you've just won a massive not a competition. But, you know, a show to play one of the most iconic female roles in a musical. And now you're going to be joining a company as an ensemble member, right?

Jodie Prenger:   34:17
Really? That doesn't It still doesn't bother me today doesn't even

Adam Robert Lewis:   34:21
rather. But they were all very supportive.

Jodie Prenger:   34:23
There was They will fly like really, honestly,

Adam Robert Lewis:   34:27
Because you're now a big name. You know, a big

Jodie Prenger:   34:34
name. No, I don't Zam, I don't know. I don't like it. I'm honored when people say that I am very proud to say I work, but I just love I love cos I love all singing off the same

Adam Robert Lewis:   34:48
hymn of joy leading the company.

Jodie Prenger:   34:50
Just enjoy the family of a thing that I think that's what lame is really torment it. Tor me. It was a family I was getting. There are They're never gonna They're never gonna welcome, eh? Yeah, I'm just gonna go, and I'm gonna be like, Oh, is she think it was never It was never like that. It was really It was really lovely. It was not the bloody Waltons. So how many

Adam Robert Lewis:   35:13
weeks did you do

Jodie Prenger:   35:14
for way? Could I get a revolver? It was like it was if Michael Flatley wouldn't like on the I always remember there was one night I did it a smoothly. Is anything going on that revolt? I was like, Yeah, my life is made. And then it was that happy when we were going into the bows that I literally skipped that has escaped. I went flat out on the face and all the audience were Oh, and then I got up so out of character, it don't worry, loves All right? Was it

Adam Robert Lewis:   35:54
well publicized that you were going into limits, or was it sort of kept under wraps? Because I wasn't aware of that, actually, until, you know, I wasn't intelligence and research found out you'd actually done a stint in the Oh, I wasn't aware of it.

Jodie Prenger:   36:08
Maybe it wasan. I don't really I don't think it was like Major announced. I think it was, like, literally just doing the gruff before was not it, You know, so club. We did do it that way.

Adam Robert Lewis:   36:21
What? So you start rehearsals for Oliver? Yeah. Obviously with a director that you hadn't met throughout the whole process off?

Jodie Prenger:   36:28
Yeah. Was that difficult? It was. Did, you know, have the natural kind of thing? I do. Is that you want everyone to feel at home. I remember sitting down with Rupert Gold on Dhe Burned Goldman. He was playing Bill sighs. Lovely, lovely paypal. And she was. So how long you know? How long have you known him to burn? About five minutes ago, behind the bike shed, he offered me a cigarette. No, E men. How long have you known Bill Side character? I get it. Let's just rewind, but wonderful. Bumped into Rupert about it was a brilliant show. The director of the show, Let's taste horning beige did. He wrote and directed the arrival, which was a shepherd's bush. And I just wanted to prove that that was my first

Adam Robert Lewis:   37:25
process is normal for any audition. Really? That you do for a west end. You know, you meet the casting director, you may have a record, then you get the director. Then the director signs off on them. Before you know it, you've already sort of got a relationship before you go into the room where you were kind of meeting. The director told,

Jodie Prenger:   37:42
If I hire you poor thing, that's

Adam Robert Lewis:   37:44
so obviously they're always trying to train you up as Nancy through the television program. You get to rehearsals. Was it a case of? Well, you know the characters. So or was it a case we're gonna know? Start from scratch.

Jodie Prenger:   37:58
It was kind of with Joe. McCullough was a brilliant dialect coach. So had all that previous to that waltz with Roger. And then that was kind of worked on part of me. And then was Stephen Brooke with the music? Um, it was It was really worked on. I dont glad of that work. I literally that's all I ever wanted. Was Taconic it? I didn't want to be one of those Like, you know, people are the vote for things and I've got it now and it was gonna happen. I hate that height that I just I wanted Thio give the best it could give. Just just enjoy it. Really?

Adam Robert Lewis:   38:30
You felt the pressure the right out. The fact that, you know,

Jodie Prenger:   38:34
did I feel the pressure Some

Adam Robert Lewis:   38:37
people would go Well, a 1,000,000 people have just voted for me except 1,000,000. So I've got this, you know? But I suppose you think it's really refreshing to have that approach that you go. No, I still wanna know e. I think so. But I don't. They don't e

Jodie Prenger:   38:56
tender my coffee. You can listen to it at the end of the recording.

Adam Robert Lewis:   38:59
It surprises me, But I'm always, you know, even now even in front a mural hoping for not criticism but direction. Change it by new things. Keep working, keep work and keep working. Do

Jodie Prenger:   39:13
you know, unless that's the brilliant thing about obviously, um, film. It captures a moment and you get to three goes in theatre, it gives you and it is a great kind of. He's a great training ground constantly changing and somebody can do can react in a certain way to one saying you go. Oh, now I

Adam Robert Lewis:   39:37
know, it's like a great game of tennis. Course I'm not. You know, I think few minutes tough because there is a expectation to get it right first time. But I think I think it's really refreshing to know on Monday you could go on and go. I wasn't quite sure about them. And you go, Well, I've got tomorrow to do it differently. I improved by Wednesday, slightly different or or different hurdles that you've got to overcome that you didn't anticipate on Monday. I thought, you know, I was I don't if you know this story, but I think it's Sanford Meisner was watching a production that his daughter was in on Dhe. He came backstage and his daughter said I wasn't I wonderful tonight. That was really great and he said you were okay and then he came to see it Maybe two weeks later and she was on and he came backstage and she's not just awful tonight I just didn't feel it and he said, My darling, you were wonderful and she just couldn't quite work it out. Um, sometimes if you do know the work you know the audience get, you know, sometimes you gotta let the audience to a bit of the world

Jodie Prenger:   40:43
is I Look, I think there's a congee, is a collaborative event and not include

Adam Robert Lewis:   40:50
the order is absolutely

Jodie Prenger:   40:51
so sometimes. I mean, it's like with this a taste of honey once they kind of get a flyover. Laughter, you know you are, but but and it takes the rhythm IQ. And, of course, when when laughter London's. It's the rhythm of the effects, the rhythm of the show and that can affect everything. So it is your old mom room together. What

Adam Robert Lewis:   41:10
was your what was your opening night like

Jodie Prenger:   41:15
that? See God Kai Room Find words to describe how Ari what it was just on real. It was the most unreal experience that you probably want to give two militaries bought. Then you also wouldn't give it to you. You know, your your worst enemy. It was that weird moisture off. I don't know what's going on, but let's just stick on it. I hope we get over the end. That was how long

Adam Robert Lewis:   41:46
did you do? Is Nancy? Is it steam room? 16 months. So was it 16? So is it always 16 months? Or was it we'll just see.

Jodie Prenger:   41:58
I don't know what I can't remember what it was. I think it was like then there was an option. But then Kerry Ellis came in as well. And when I went to Deuce, Spamalot, which was did you get?

Adam Robert Lewis:   42:12
So it's really tough to get an agent, and I think a lot of sort of people, even drama school. That's sort of like that. The first goal. Yeah, when you did the Nancy program, did you have you still had an agent doing that? You didn't

Jodie Prenger:   42:23
know we didn't. And funny enough, there was a boom in the same agents. I'm Agent John Berman. It was one of the judges on dhe. It was my mom and dad who was stood backstage and Gaff. Government, Sorry, Gas said, just something that was just really little. And that wasn't for my years. Do you see what you make? It wasn't. And then I went afterwards. I'm based at the BBC rule of cares at the agent supply in Run. And you go visit them afterwards. Right on then.

Adam Robert Lewis:   42:51
So there is a sort of showcase type thing where they do right in if they want to represent you. I

Jodie Prenger:   42:57
just I just have

Adam Robert Lewis:   42:58
you been with goblin ever since, governor?

Jodie Prenger:   43:02
The Bach family, and it's just it feels feels like family. Yes, I was just really?

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:06
So when you finish Nancy, did you think

Jodie Prenger:   43:10
I'm going out now? What

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:14
did you know? Well, were people approaching you for a lot of jobs?

Jodie Prenger:   43:19
Yeah, which

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:20
is which is

Jodie Prenger:   43:21
what you get for doing that. I was doing a total John Berman, which I'm still recovering from on dhe. So did that. And then

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:31
was that like a John Berman live?

Jodie Prenger:   43:33
Yeah. Is yeah, on Then we did that and then did Spamalot.

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:40
So did you have to audition for these jobs? You have to audition. I know is you have to audition since first. Of

Jodie Prenger:   43:48
course. Of course. Of course. Have never know. Oh, gosh, I love you, but I'm

Adam Robert Lewis:   43:54
a lot was offered to you.

Jodie Prenger:   43:55
Family was offered, right, And that was that was brilliant at a really good time. Without what did that did The tour of it. And then recent? Well, quite recently. I just recently about three years ago closed it when it was in the West end at the players at the Playhouse so, Yeah, I really enjoyed that.

Adam Robert Lewis:   44:10
And you played the lady of the lake. I was gonna cook. You look at my notes ago,

Jodie Prenger:   44:20
Gen Dependent. No. Yeah, Laser like that was a great pop. It was really where they took her over to Italy, which is gorgeous little town called Trieste. Um, lovely restaurant called the Tavern ETA. Where is that nice that you're remains, for starters, Andi. Um, but what was weird, obviously, is kind of ladled in comedy, isn't it? Monty Python? But he was also titled, right. All this is really bad. So we'd we'd love the gag, but, um, I never carry on no carry on the way.

Adam Robert Lewis:   44:57
That's brilliant. Really. Just jointed. So, what do you What was the sort of a MME after you finished Nancy and Spamalot. Did you

Jodie Prenger:   45:06
just take it where I just

Adam Robert Lewis:   45:08
You just Did you just take what was offered? Because you've done a lot of television loose with national lottery. Um, so was it just a kiss? I'll just do what I'm offered or you feel in a field in certain office.

Jodie Prenger:   45:22
I was like, Yeah, you know, I just just want I just want it to work on. It wasn't kind of, you know, I want to be the biggest star convey. I want to be this. You know, this entity. I just I just wanted to enjoy doing what I did, and I was I'm looking off to kind of go do that like the radio or go do, you know, like the present inside of it. I've been looking up in that way in that regard instead of just kind of nailing. Or maybe, you know, down to one master. I just No, I just enjoyed working.

Adam Robert Lewis:   45:56
What show? Haven't you done that you would love to do? Isn't anything

Jodie Prenger:   46:01
just say today? Mind meld on Devon. Hello, Dollar. Yeah, she shall be.

Adam Robert Lewis:   46:11
So you did Spamalot. You went into, obviously the nationals production of one man to get a team in the west end, right?

Jodie Prenger:   46:19
Yeah, they took. They went off to broad. Right on way to cover the Hey Mark. And that

Adam Robert Lewis:   46:24
was brilliant. That was not the first sort of experience of doing a straight play.

Jodie Prenger:   46:31
You need deads. Shaker is I think it was like years ago. Like Charlie, my Joseph used to do support for Ken Dodd. The Shakers wishes apply? Uh, yeah, my first. Technically,

Adam Robert Lewis:   46:48
what was that about? Checkers

Jodie Prenger:   46:50
is about, like the girls night out. You must have been what I forget.

Adam Robert Lewis:   47:01
Do you like doing straight theater? Look, I know this seems to be this. So you're either a musical theatre performer. I hit that boxing you into this

Jodie Prenger:   47:11
never get box. Didn't

Adam Robert Lewis:   47:12
know. Have you tried to sort of Is that mean something you consciously trying to do is not get sort of type casters of the empty performer?

Jodie Prenger:   47:22
I hate to say that I hate to say this because you shouldn't be, but yes, I have off of. I made a conscious decision to maybe not do some things because I want to show that, as we collectively are more than just this, you know, we don't just sing and dance, you know, we counted up to other areas because it is, no matter what is entertainment on were the most adaptable entities to get up and play any former character. You adapt into that kind of that being. So to say that you can't go and do something. I think it's just so like, But I am sad that you can't say I could do that, I could do this. And that's the one thing that was gassed. When you do a straight blade is going, What's the difference as well? It's just like a musical. No, no song that the text is still there. And then you still have to find the storybook. It's just Do

Adam Robert Lewis:   48:22
you think you still face those type of, um, hurdles of trying to convinced people that yes, you can play?

Jodie Prenger:   48:31
I think in this industry, I think if it was always gonna be hurdles right, this God obey. But it's worth jumping up over him. Yeah. Um, but yes, I think if there wasn't hurdles, do you think that in a way that it wouldn't make you wanna work? If it's just Everything became so

Adam Robert Lewis:   48:50
is everything's really easy. Yeah, some. Sometimes I go just, you know, I got really tough. Is it just me. But then I go, I would rather a journey that has got some struggle. Yeah, Otherwise, you've got There's no story to tell. No appreciation. Don't don't really appreciate. And that is a question that comes up a lot is all right. You know, it seems easy for you or you know, if you if you get a cover in a in a show when you've only been there two years, they go on, took somebody else eight years, and I go Well, okay, but everybody is on their different junior. It was still tough. Just because I may have got a slightly sooner than somebody else. So you stayed. You've done a lot of street theater since, um, one month forgiveness shakers. So which leaves us to sort of the shoulder during now. Really? So was this offer to you, or did you have to audition?

Jodie Prenger:   49:49
Yeah, that's a no no. I audition. I was. And you know what? I was like, Go went to audition at the ante, and I just I thought building makes me scared because just great. Yeah, I know. It's like the, you know, stages when you go. Oh, my mother been on the stage.

Adam Robert Lewis:   50:08
I love walking around the national and I go there. It's gotta be one of my favorite places to just sit, have a coffee. I don't know what it is, but I just feel like there's just something about it and people go away. It just looks like a big brick palace. I just love it. Yes. The

Jodie Prenger:   50:27
thing is, when you go in there, you always see people you know, I have to get our funding for bumped into the make from one month. I know what you're in for. Infant audition, and I didn't tell it when I want I want some. Really want something? I don't tell people because I have that fair. Good. No, unlike in auditions, Andi, I'm not gonna get it. So if I don't tell anyone, I don't make it up. So no, but

Adam Robert Lewis:   50:54
what did you have to prepare for? This audition

Jodie Prenger:   50:56
was just apart,

Adam Robert Lewis:   50:57
just apart from

Jodie Prenger:   50:58
Helen and stuff I'm didn't have to do. But obviously the singing singing in this so I don't have to sing,

Adam Robert Lewis:   51:04
right? But it is singing in this

Jodie Prenger:   51:07
in this year

Adam Robert Lewis:   51:07
was not something that they added later. Or was that in the concept? Originally, I

Jodie Prenger:   51:11
think it was. It was in the concept originally by Sheila Delaney. She always wanted a adjust trio in there, right? But then it was like music just really fed through right, although through rehearsal, more so than originally planned. And so, yes, I went in auditioned in them. Funny enough, wanton to Gemma, who plays the daughter who previously had just presented an award to the stage. Deputy Wars on like a house on fire and what you've been going on tradition. Not so you know what you do And when. 10. I'm just Yeah, I just blurted something out. It was reasonably audible.

Adam Robert Lewis:   51:53
Who was in the audition

Jodie Prenger:   51:55
beach? Other director, Alice I was to come on in Isabella, and they were all out there, and they were just with. They are not the work. They are warm people, which I to anyone who's casting up there. I promised me I'm not telling you how to do it. But when you are so warm and welcoming when you go into any audition room, I can't tell you how much you are felt. How would you put Thio said that his health

Adam Robert Lewis:   52:23
there seems to be a not a huge difference, but a slight difference between a musical theater audition on dhe A. You know, a straight audition, whatever that means. But street theater, audition plays or Shakespeare, there seems to be a chat. Everybody says, Oh, yeah, we have a little chat. Sit down, have you been up to? What? It didn't get the play. What did you think? You know, thinking Well, not auditions. I've bean to know you. You just go in and they go alone. Nice to see you. How are you? And what have you got for us? And I go, I'm gonna sing music of the night or something, you know? And then you go Thank you.

Jodie Prenger:   52:58
So right. 70 musical say traditions Which disposes that. Yeah, you just sing the song.

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:06
Just sing a song.

Jodie Prenger:   53:08
Mind you if you walk through a song, that's what

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:11
this nor it does feel like convey about Sometimes it probably gets more chatty. The more recalls you do,

Jodie Prenger:   53:19
do you have you don't sell types

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:22
one, but yeah, I've only done one show, so I'm really got a great I just wanted to be in Phantom. That was my

Jodie Prenger:   53:31
e. I do. I

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:34
don't know. I have no idea.

Jodie Prenger:   53:36
Love never dies. I don't know, but I think it is that that

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:43
was the only

Jodie Prenger:   53:43
mountain to

Adam Robert Lewis:   53:44
find him to expose. Would be nice to do it is going on tour. Yeah, but that's all I wanted to do. Weirdly, that's that was all I wanted to do. But that was the show I went to see Aunt thought, My God, I have to give up my job and I want to be covering the Phantom. And then I remember leaving the theater feel physically sick, getting on a train back to project.

Jodie Prenger:   54:11
It was in the audition me when you,

Adam Robert Lewis:   54:13
um so So it was all the creative. Trevor Jackson was very quiet, so he didn't really say a lot. But I can remember going in. I joined the show, Just is a string, but then obviously audition for the Phantom cover on. Then there's a you know, But then there's an added pressure that they know you.

Jodie Prenger:   54:34
Yeah, what? He teach every such a wise honest. So again, one of these people in the industry that you just that you that you sound awful up there. There there are certain people, know all of them. And I have to say that this is throughout the industry. It's brilliant leather there because they are the bone holes trying to pull it all together. And Travis, definitely

Adam Robert Lewis:   54:59
you've done you've done limb is since right

Jodie Prenger:   55:02
t. I just really like it's

Adam Robert Lewis:   55:07
not a nice experience. I haven't done a show that, you know, it was a new version, right? But but similar.

Jodie Prenger:   55:12
It was It was I think it's very simple. The same version has gone into town, but, um, no, I really enjoyed it. I always called. You know my friend Bob Nana Jean was Oh, I love I love that Les mis alone. Is that

Adam Robert Lewis:   55:30
so just to close? Really? We always sort of asked maybe advice for people who are looking to pursue this Korea. Don't on them. Really? You know, what advice would you have for people thinking that? Is this the right decision for them? You know, it's filled with trepidation on unemployment and all these things thes statistics that they keep putting around all the time. And I think it does put you off. I think sometimes, you know, Ah, life off. All wells are better than what ifs.

Jodie Prenger:   56:06
I think. Look, I think if you come up against things on dhe is that thing is that kind of hurdle. If you want to jump that hurdle, you'll probably fall over. The other side would just get back up and they'll be another hurdle. And if you fall over, just keep getting back up. You'll cry. You'll laugh. Your liver probably never be the same, but it's just it's that kind of just being willing to get stuck in and enjoy and always as well, like just always be willing to go and go down new avenues like, You know, you know, I was came into musical theater but go in doing straight theater in the radio and presented, and we've just been We just got a writing project has been optioned, which is fantastic. So they just try everything go for everything because you just never know what's gonna come over. And it's like you said you can say is many on what? Just just just doing what? Oh, what do

Adam Robert Lewis:   57:13
So what's next for you?

Jodie Prenger:   57:14
Well, yeah, we've just can't remember that. But we just had myself on a friend, wrote a TV series. We've just been optioned, kind of really surreal.

Adam Robert Lewis:   57:26
You can't see any more than

Jodie Prenger:   57:27
that car

Adam Robert Lewis:   57:28
you guys a bit of a hint of the plot.

Jodie Prenger:   57:30
Well, it's about Northern women, which I know. So you know, coming from Hampshire, I'm really starting to tap into that. But but yes, Oh, no. We're just literally gonna be in my head. I want one of your fancy laptops, but I really quite Sallie Mae. I had buried into that for the next.

Adam Robert Lewis:   57:55
You've got a week left. There's no option for that to go anywhere else.

Jodie Prenger:   58:00
Because way did the tour, then it transferred in. I'm No, we really are Missed. The character, you know, Miss Almost the company books. Yeah. So I got a fresh sometimes.