I spoke to Hannah Pasquinzo on Feb 13, 2023. We had discovered some cool similarities and then we dove into how she has used Human Design and her intuition to gain better insight into some of the relationships in her life as well as carving out her passion and purpose in the world to help other do the same.
Bio
Hannah Pasquinzo is a business owner, yoga teacher, and Human Design coach living in the magical Ozark Mountains with her horses and smattering of other animals. Her husband often likens her to Snow White, but swap the dwarves for two teenagers. She offers both virtual and equine-assisted learning experiences for busy people around the world who want to live more fulfilling, mindful lives. Her favorite thing is to cheer her clients on as they gather the courage to reach for what brings them alive.
website: hannahpasquinzo.com
instagram: @hannahpasquinzo
I spoke to Hannah Pasquinzo on Feb 13, 2023. We had discovered some cool similarities and then we dove into how she has used Human Design and her intuition to gain better insight into some of the relationships in her life as well as carving out her passion and purpose in the world to help other do the same.
Bio
Hannah Pasquinzo is a business owner, yoga teacher, and Human Design coach living in the magical Ozark Mountains with her horses and smattering of other animals. Her husband often likens her to Snow White, but swap the dwarves for two teenagers. She offers both virtual and equine-assisted learning experiences for busy people around the world who want to live more fulfilling, mindful lives. Her favorite thing is to cheer her clients on as they gather the courage to reach for what brings them alive.
website: hannahpasquinzo.com
instagram: @hannahpasquinzo
Welcome to Sears Beers, knowers and Doers, a podcast about intuition. Do you know what that is? Intuition to me is that inner sense for knowing that something is true. And yet I have no proof. But there's so many definitions and there's so many ways it can come. I'm looking to bring together and share with you some amazing guests. You have some amazing life stories and also some insights into how intuition can come, and I'm looking to gather those crows in the trees. I hope you're one of them. I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition, and I hope that by doing that, we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me.
Speaker 2:Before we get started today, I would love to share some tools with you to help with stress and feeling overwhelmed, especially for the energetically sensitive person. Feel free to go to my store on my website@www.healingvitality.ca. Thanks so much for coming on this journey with me.
Speaker 3:So I'm super excited today because I have connected with, um, reference in a way from another podcast. Lynn Kearns and Hannah reached out to me and I said, absolutely. When I took a look at her website, I saw that we are exactly the same in some way that we're gonna get into in this podcast, I think. So thank you so much, Hannah, for joining me today.
Speaker 4:I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3:If you could let the world know a little bit more about you, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 4:Awesome. I think of myself in terms of my roles first, which is mother, wife, business owner. I think of myself as a dreamer and a speaker, and I think the beginning of the journey that makes sense for this conversation might be the beginnings of becoming a business owner. So I grew up a dancer and I was in college at the time and I kept changing my major. Like every semester I was kind of getting nowhere and my job as a dance teacher kept ramping up. And I remember driving home, I think it was like a Saturday night from the dance studio after doing private lessons all day. And I was so excited thinking about all the people I just worked with and what we were gonna do next. And then that next song I was gonna pick out. And I just had a moment where I thought, what am I doing in school? Like if I love this, this much to have worked all day and to be driving home late at night and still feeling so inspired, I should give it a go, like as my job job. And so I'm sure that my mom at the time was, maybe she was used to it at this point, I don't know. But I can imagine now as a mother, if my kids came to me and when as I'm dropping outta school and I'm starting a business, I know I'm only 21, but I swear I can do it, be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Um, but my mom co-signed on a loan for me and I started dance studio and the passion piece of it was there. My abilities as a teacher were there. Um, but the business side of things took me a minute. I can remember like my first W two s were not looking very great as you can imagine. And I met my husband and I call it the Ramen Noodle Diet. I was on the ramen noodle diet at the time because I was making hardly any money. I was doing this thing that I loved. But yeah, I think they were like 23 cents at the time. So I was eating a lot of those and my husband and I had our first kiddo and I realized like diapers, they're expensive and so was daycare, which I needed in order to be able to continue working. But the daycare ended up like costing more than I was actually making. So we sat down at the dinner table one night and like most like timing, if you're not making any money, it's more like a hobby, you know, it's like not really a job. And so I had a little reckoning with myself. It's like, is it time to let go of this work that I love and maybe stay home with my son? Or is it time to get serious about the business side of things and figure out how to turn this passion project into an actual, um, business? So I chose the latter and figured it out. Um, and that has become a big source of pride, like building a business to a point of stability and success. It's like what my family and I needed, but it came with the unexpected benefit eventually of the flexibility to explore so many of my other interests. Because I think this might be true for most people, but especially for me. Um, you know, I've been at the dance studio for um, I think about 20 years now. And I still love so many aspects of it, but I have so many other interests. And so being able to kind of make my own schedule and to put my CEO hat on as I get older and as the business grows Yeah. It's allowed me to go on lots of adventures and the educational adventures are my favorites.<laugh> mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So when you mentioned the eclectic combo of things that I do, um, I did them all with the dance studio running in the background. So I trained as a life coach. I fulfilled my dream of the club becoming a horse woman. I had a, an effort moment when I was 29 and said, I've always wanted to do this and I'm not too old saying it. Um, and then not long after that I had a horse and then I trained as an equine coach and then I did yoga training and started my education in human design like in the middle of the, so it's allowed me to always be up to something and that I am incredibly grateful for. Yeah,
Speaker 3:Very cool. And be a mom just saying Absolutely. Well, and to inform people about the way that we're exactly the same. When I was reached out, I went and said, oh, who is this person? And I went on our website and there's a human design chart sitting there and I'm like, I recognize those numbers. And then I'm like, they're like exactly the same numbers as mine in our purpose, I think is what it is. And Uhhuh,<affirmative>, I, I'm not, I haven't studied human design per se, and I, what I run across a few people's charts we've shared in different communities and things like that. And I, I didn't know how prevalent it was, if at all, to share the exact same numbers in a pattern that was related to our purpose. And so when I saw that, I called her, I called Hannah up, and when I was just giggling, I was laughing with like, I didn't even say hello. I was laughing. I had to call right away cuz I'm like, okay, we're the same God, what's the chances,<laugh>? And so that serendipity led us here and I was like, okay, there's so much more to sharing the same purpose, but I could see how you're, if, if you look at the breadcrumbs that you've taken, it's just really interesting that there's, it's been about your personal journey by the sounds of things, but it's also been for greater good as well. There seems to be two parallel lines running there. Is that true?
Speaker 4:Yeah. I hope it's true because those, yeah, the greater good is something that I hope that all of my work in the world serves.
Speaker 3:So I go back and ask what those majors were that you were trying to pursue to fit in the box.
Speaker 4:Yes. I can't remember maybe where I started. I think I went in sort of like general education and then I declared the theology and then I spent, uh, a summer in the business college and very quickly decided after all those economics classes, I was like, n nevermind<laugh>. I, I do think even then I had, uh, the desire, I knew that I eventually wanted to own my own business. So I thought, oh, maybe a business degree will help. And I ended my college career, I know in the education department I thought maybe I would be a school teacher. I think in the end I ended up right where I was meant to be. Right. Um, still in education and business and some sort, but without any formal education
Speaker 3:<laugh>. Right. Per se. Right. And the reason why I'm asking that is because people can definitely, hopefully see the parallels with what you chose to chase in terms of your education in the formal setting and what you actually are doing in the real world. And I, I love when that happens because that to me shows there's a knowing of an inter radar of like just bouncing up against things. Even though they may not be like exactly what you are supposed to do, you're still bouncing up against the topics and getting exposure and I think it's just sometimes in the wrong structure. And so I think a lot of people can resonate with that feeling of being wrong cuz they're in the wrong place even though they're touching the right thing. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4:It makes so much sense. And I'm having a moment right now because I've never had anybody reflect that back to me. So clearly. And when you use the word I think breadcrumbs earlier, I'm like, that's exactly what it was. It was bumping up against maybe some of the quote unquote correct things that was without the correct structure for me. And I know your podcast is all about intuition and it's like clarifying for me in this moment that it's always been alive in me and it was in and I eventually found my way. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, thank you for that.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. Oh that's awesome. Yeah, it, I don't know, this is something that has been happening a little bit more and more for me as I'm, I'm looking at people's paths or lives or situations or what they're looking to create in the world and it's like I just see poop. It's just like I'm staring at it and I'm able to put it in a word. So this is new to me, but you're the third person in the last week that's clarified that part for me. So this is exciting too. Very cool. So, and tuition and what you do can grow and expand, which is why I'm even bringing my epiphany up is that we don't have to make it happen. Like it will just happen. So thank you for that gift Hannah. You were like the third. It's like I have to pay attention now anyways.
Speaker 4:I love what that
Speaker 3:Happened too. Cool. So can you go into a little bit more, I know when we talked a little bit about just getting to know each other before the call, when we had our chat last week, I wrote down, oh my gosh, how to approach people in parenting and business with human design. And you had shared, and maybe you don't wanna share this on the larger platform or not, but you like you had shared some situations with your own awareness of understanding human design a little bit deeper and how it's impacted your world. Would you mind sharing a little bit about that?
Speaker 4:No, I would love to. I actually have thought that through a little little bit. Okay. I think I can share in a way that generally my kids won't hate me for it later.<laugh>
Speaker 3:Generally. Generally.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yes. When it comes to human design, would you like me to describe it a little bit first? Sure. That doesn't know what human design is.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Sure. Please
Speaker 4:Do. Okay. So human divine is, I think of it as a tool for self-awareness and for living your purpose. You've used the term blueprint before. So it provides this blueprint. Blueprint for how we are quote unquote design to use our energy and express our gifts. And it kind of shows you how to work and communicate and make decisions and connect with others in a way that's most effective for us, like for us as individuals. So it's a combination of astrology, which is where you and I share the same incarnation cross, which is our purpose here. We share that based on the astrology piece of human design and then it pulls in the eing the, the Cabala Tree of Life, the chakras. So it's a lot of ancient wisdom kind of just build down into this cool system for self-awareness. And it's kind of based on the belief that we are all unique for a reason, but we find ourselves within societies and systems that ask us to conform everywhere we turn. And that leads to disappointment and frustration and anger and bitterness. And I like to explore what the world might look like if we all embrace our unique roles and the unique roles of others. It brings up questions like, what would our relationships look like in that case? What would our communities look like? How would they feel like more peace we might feel more successful, life might be more satisfying and delightful. And that's how human design for me has impacted my life when it comes to how I bump into other people energetically. It's been a huge awareness for me. Yeah. When I think about specific examples, I think of my children. So my son is a generator and my daughter is a projector. And before I knew that, I used to worry about my daughter not being as active as my son. Like she could happily spend a Saturday snuggled up in her bed with her book and I would be thinking we can help outside get some exercise. Like as a mom I'm concerned with my kids' health. And I read all about projectors and went, oh, she literally does not have the same access to life force physical energy as my son does. Which is why my son is always outside shooting baskets and running around on our four wheeler. And he's like, he can't sit still and my daughter needs the time to rest and recuperate. And so it allowed me to stop worrying and judging so much and really embrace the unique energetic blueprint of my kids. And even if you can imagine just erasing the worry in a relationship and start trusting that my kids can use their own intuition and awareness of their own bodies to give themselves what they need has been empowering for them too. I think. So it has improved our relationship in, in safe ways.
Speaker 3:I mean I think it's an awareness to have awareness as a parent that there's tools to apply that can support parenting. Cuz there's no blueprint, there's no rules, there's no guidebook on parenting<laugh>. Huh.
Speaker 4:I was talking to my mom this morning about that same thing. She was saying, why is it that we get clopped down here without any operating instructions? Like I know. I know. So it's like we're all kind of reaching for tools that are available to us to see what works and what can help us make sense of all and feel like we are offering something good to the world.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well and to combine what you're combining in your work, I think it's cool how you've got movement aspects and the life coach aspect and the human design, which is kind of an underpinning to those things to give people their awareness of which things work for them in the world. I, it just fascinates me. It fascinates me. And that you were open to, to applying it in ways to make your life kind of have more ease is is really, really cool. I think so, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. And hopefully it can give people a spark if it resonates with them to go, go check out what they need to, to learn more about human design or, or just following and not judging choices they've made in the past. Cuz we don't have to worry that all those situations and people we bumped up against or all of the choices we made maybe weren't wrong. Even though they seem like a societal failure or something<laugh>, you know, like it's, yeah. It's so not, it's so not at all. It's just, it's just a place that we had to be. I love that. And it isn't it true sometimes the constructs that we measure ourselves up against are not actually real
Speaker 4:When you were just talking about maybe the choices that we've made weren't wrong. I think another human design example with my husband, so he's a manifesting generator and a common wounding for manifesting generators that grow up, especially in the West. And again in my husband's generation especially too, it's like, get the job and work your way up the ladder and then put all your money into your 401k and then one day you'll get to retire and actually have some fun. And he did not follow that path, which is not surprising now that I know this human design. He has had a lot of different careers over the years and I think figuring out that he was designed to do that allowed him to have a lot more acceptance for his path and where he is now. And that is like a way more empowering place to be. And those validations and permission slips are one of my favorite things to give people.
Speaker 3:It's so true. The, the the, the word permission you just used, it's so potent. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, it's so potent. So how does intuition come to you?
Speaker 4:Intuition comes to me when I think about it from a human design perspective. I think about what's called my authority, which is Lenox and it operates quickly and I would call it I get hits or pings or all of a sudden I'm, you know, moving in a direction that I didn't consciously decide. That's one way mine shows up. And then I also have an open emotional center, which means I feel other people's feelings a lot and I pick up on a lot of information that way. I think. So I think all of us have a sense sometimes like the example I always think of is walking into a room and you kind of get a sense of the vibe. Like, oh, something just happened here. I'm not sure what it is, but maybe I'll go grab a coffee and come back. Those feelings for me I think are heightened. So it's interesting to think about my intuition theory, human design lens. I don't know if I would've been able to say it as succinctly if I didn't have that framework. If without that framework I would say sometimes I just know things and I often, when I'm in a more, um, consciously meditative state, I see a lot too. I see a lot of visualization. I can't always make sense of them, but I see a lot of them. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, I think that's how it shows up for me.
Speaker 3:I love that you can't make sense of them. That's so freeing because so many times, because of what we've been taught, we need to understand and make sense of things. And yet, and the intuitive side of life like understanding is sometimes like a place that paralyzes us.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's sometimes we don't even need to understand. So I love that you give visions that you don't understand<laugh> and it's okay. Like thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I can take guesses.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It also makes me think of one of my yoga teachers was the first person who said that in your, your intuition won't always be quote unquote. Right. And I always, you were kind of talking about putting pressure on like on ourselves to understand our intuitive knowing mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And I feel like this is another flavor of that where some of us are searching for that intuitive knowing so that it will be quote unquote right. So we'll make the right choice, we're moving the right direction. And I feel like if we can release that pressure from our intuition as well, because who knows what will be quote unquote right in the end, like our intuition may leave us down a very windy road and only in hindsight will we be able to understand it all or makes sense of it. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And so releasing that pressure has given me a lot of freedom too.
Speaker 3:Mm. Hadn't thought about it as a pressure, but that is so good. That is so real. And the hindsight
Speaker 4:Part. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3:Hindsight's wonderful. Thank you so much for sharing that. So do you have any stories about where intuition has shown up in your life besides what you've already shared?
Speaker 4:I think the biggest ways intuition has showed up in my life relate to all of the little adventures I've gone on. Like before I know what I'm signing up for that class or I'm buying that plane ticket or I'm selling our house and moving outside of town so that I can have my horses in the front yard. It's like I can imagine from the outside looking in some of my friends and family going, oh my God, like what is she up to now always doing something. But I think all of that has been guided by my intuition and in my day-to-day life I feel like it has served my relationships, like my spidey senses or I, I think of'em as like picking up on the vibes. You know, in my relationships it feels really helpful to be able to pick up on how the people around me are feeling. I'm thinking of my husband specifically it conversations about how are you, is something going on? And he's tuned into me in the same way. So a simple way that it shows up for me is saving us, but getting too far down the road without communicating about something that might be up for us so that we can just knit things in the bud a little bit as we go. And it's helped us have a much healthier, stronger marriage and that I'm really grateful for.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's a way that people don't always think of intuition as showing up or being able to impact their relationships. Yeah. That not only being a parent, but being married is a whole thing to navigate. And I love how you have been able to gain awareness through not only your intuition but also your intuition that took you into human design, but also being able to, like you say, ride the vibe of knowing when something is gonna be received<laugh> or when is, when is the time to say how are you? That's really nice to be able to put that out there. Is there anything else you'd like to share with everybody?
Speaker 4:I think a lot of my work revolves around working with people who are similarly in that they have felt this longing inside themselves for something like, wasn't life supposed to be a little bit more beautiful than this? Like, what are we doing here? Sometimes they're clear on what it is they want to bring to life, but they're just scared. And I guess I know so many people who have had that experience that when I get the chance, I love to just say that I believe that there's always a way to be moving in the direction of that longing that is inside of us. I feel like it's there for a reason and that there, it's always a way to move in that direction. It might not look exactly how you think it will look. A lot of my clients have like the big vision in their mind and they're not sure how to get, you know, from where they are now to where they hope to head. And piecing out the little ways to move in that direction allows you to enjoy the journey and to start letting some of that life, like letting it move through you, letting those things that want to move through you come out. And so I guess if I want to say that more succinctly, I would just say that yes, you really can.
Speaker 3:Now's the time, now's the space. Exactly. The quote, access consciousness. Yeah. I find that the incubator we've been in has created opportunity for people to, to even have an awareness of what that longing might have pieces to it. Maybe not the whole thing, but as pieces to that longing and it's given us, in some cases the, it's a little bit of a fire<laugh>, even though we've had to sit with the embers, maybe some of us longer than others, or it's at least given a little bit of a spark to maybe I could. Right. Maybe that is possible. Maybe. So giving people permission again is what you're doing to, to follow their dream. Follow what's coming up. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3:Very cool. Well this has been wonderful, Hannah. Thank you so much for everything you've shared. I hope that people will grab the nuggets and do what they follow their own intuition about it and give them awareness and may smooth out some of their relationships and even their relationship with themselves.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for having
Speaker 3:Me. Until next time,
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for giving us your time today. We truly appreciate our guests for sharing their stories and insights about how intuition has impacted their lives. And I'm so grateful for Peter Trainor for his time in giving me this original music. It's now your turn. It's your turn to listen and act on your own intuition and help make the world a better place. Until next time, keep seeing, being, knowing, and doing. If you like this podcast, please share it. If you want to find others like it, go to www.healingvitality.ca or wherever you would find your podcast. We would love to have you join us on this journey. Come be a crow sitting in the tree. Be part of our community.