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Speaker 1back to the Jasmine star show today isn't an interview that I had with eight very sweet friend of mine. Her name is Robin long. We were in a mastermind together and we go back now four years of building our businesses and our lives together and she's really incredible and I have to tell you this interview , um , it's making my Palm sweat because Robin went deep into my relationship with my husband and business partner JD. Now, if you guys have been around the block with me and you happen to listen to episode three where we were interviewed by Amy Porterfield, you got a sneak peek into the way that our household works. But Robin, well, Robin dug a little deeper. She asked me everything from how JD and I divide our household responsibilities and even got me to admit that I sometimes feel pressured to be more of a homemaker even though that really isn't in my nature. I am pretty nervous to press play, but I have a feeling this episode is going to resonate with a lot of female entrepreneurs that are maybe not the most domestically inclined and how to balance that with a partner and how to play to your strengths and how to really own who you are in the roles in your household. So I can't wait to dive in and more so I can't wait to hear what you think. So excited to have you on the show today, Robin. The pleasure's all mine. I am equally as excited to be here. I always hope that our podcast sounds just like a conversation with friends, like you're just getting to eavesdrop and be in on a little conversation. And I just love that today you and I actually are real friends, even offline and so that's what people get to do. Just listen to us chat and see what happened. And you know what, Robin , can I just, because I'm like really fun and competitive instead of the other podcast feeling like people can eavesdrop on a conversation. What if we make this like a group conversation? So if anybody's listening in their car, like in the pickup line for preschool or they're at the gym or you're listening in your cubicle, be real. We all do it. Like talk back to us like we're at church, like we're in a Southern church. Like my daddy's a pastor so people can talk back to like their phones or their radios or however you're listening. Cause it's not, you're not dropping, you're having conversations . So this is a group conversation led by Robin and I'm just here for the party. I love it. So we're all just going to go ahead and start chatting. We're all going to dive in , right? Exactly. Group chat . Yes. So for those of you who aren't familiar with you, would you mind starting with just telling us a little bit about yourself, a little bit of how you spend your days right now and what you do? Well my name's Jasmine star and I'm a photographer and business strategist from Newport beach, California. And my husband and I are the founders of social curator and that is a social media membership for small business owners. And we provide resources for people to show up every day on social media with ease by knowing what to say and what to post. And we provide the turnkey solution. So as a result of doing all of that, I spend most of my days very, very systematically. Like for all intents and purposes, I am the most boring human to ever exist. But I have fun along the way. So I mean we can dive into the specifics of how specific my day is, but I casually joke with my husband that I'm a stalker's dream. Like I do the same thing every single day. Like there's a holding pattern. Like if I'm a plane , there's a holding pattern on my flight path and I'm totally okay with it. I love that. Okay, but here's what I know about you. You may be boring in terms of your routine, but you are one of the most interesting people I've ever met. So you make me sound like the dose psyches , man. It's interesting. No. Yeah. Well thank you for that. Let's talk about the interesting , I know within your structured team you've got a lot going on. So we're going to dive into some of that today. But quick question for you, did you ever picture yourself being a business owner with your husband? Like was that always a goal of yours or you're like, wow, how did this happen? It wasn't a goal and now that it's actually come to fruition, I couldn't picture my life or my business without him. He's truly integral I think on the outside the business and brand has my name and my face, but we are 50 50 business partners and life partners and you know, truth be told, he's like the Oz behind the curtain. He has all the great ideas and uh , he's a dreamer and I'm a doer. So in that respect, our relationship is pretty powerful. That's interesting. I didn't realize he's the dreamer and you're a doer. Oh my God . I mean, I know you're a doer, but I don't think I put that together. Oh, he's, I'm telling you, thank God that he has thick skin because he comes up with new ideas. I'm not even exaggerating like 13 times a day, like my knee jerk answer to like anything. He starts to question no, no, no. So he just loves the ideation and he just loves thinking outside of the box and I am just a lot more structured. And so when he has the capacity to throw out this big crazy idea, I always start with no. And then I ruminate and then I'm like, you know what, 48 hours later I was like, I think that actually might be a really great idea. So yeah, he's, you know, I'm just Dorothy on my yellow brick road and like he's just literally the mastermind behind everything. Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. So for those of you who don't know, Jasmine's has been, J D is, he is amazing. He is one of a kind. He is just like one of the nicest, most genuine people I've ever met. And so now we're bringing everybody in this group chat because we're having a real conversation. Is it not a little bit weird. Like you met me, I'm guessing, right? You met me and you're like, I like her. She's nice, we have a good time. And then you meet JD and you're like, wow, that girl really married up. Not, I wouldn't be offended. Well my buyers will say the product name. Okay. The first time I met you guys, you probably don't even remember this. It was on the beach at a bonfire. And I sat and talked to J D like the whole night, the little beach chairs , and we talked about like family and life and family goals. And I was like, I hadn't even had a chance to talk to you. And so I didn't even know your personality yet. And I was like, this JD, he is so nice as Jasmine. And I think like, why is this guy wonder ? Why is my husband talking to this girl? So, Oh, you know what Robin , you know what that typifies my husband , who is he where I am the kind of person. And I remember the bonfire like it was yesterday, but I didn't know that. That was actually the first time we had met to be honest. So I remember the bonfire. And what JD does is he knows how to go deep with people and I like to touch a lot of people. And so that again goes back to how we are able to balance each other because he comes back and I will never forget that night he was just like full debrief a Robin long . He was absolutely just smitten . He thought you were brilliant, he loved your family. He's just like Jasmine, she's just solid good people. And I was like amazing. I think I spoke to her for about 35 seconds, but I'm going to talk to her tomorrow. I love that. And so you guys, you own a business together now, social curator, but before social curator you were a photographer. Was he in on that business with you as well? So have you guys been basically doing business together for a long time? Yes. Small caveat. I still am a photographer. I know. It's so crazy, you know, because it's like when you start off like pursuing this wild and crazy dream of being a creative and finding the way to like monetize. Like I am a first generation Latino . I'm a first generation college student, my parents are immigrants. Like the idea that somebody can come and start a business was the farthest thing. I didn't ever grow up in a community where people worked for themselves. They only ever worked for others. Like I didn't even have the capacity to dream or the wherewithal to understand what it would mean to actually number one, have a business. And number two have a business around creativity. And so I graduated college, I dropped out of law school, which was crazy. And I asked my brand new husband, we had just gotten married. We'd been dating for like nine years, just gotten married. I was just like, I really am so unhappy in law school. I want to become a photographer. And I didn't have a camera. So he bought me a camera. And so I start out on this venture of can I make creativity work for me, number one, and can I actually make a living? And within the first year I had booked enough jobs with photography to move me out of my part time job. And then within two years I had built up such a business that I needed to bring somebody else on to help me handle the workload from administrative, from taxes, from planning, and the whole nine. And so I sat my down and I said, I need to bring somebody on and I need to hire somebody so I can hire somebody or I can have you take a pretty big pay cut and come on ride this train. Do you want to like join the hot mess express and see if we can make this thing work? And like, lucky for me, he decided to become like the conductor and then it was literally like a locomotive. Why am I really into this train? And Alex , you know , so we things take off for us. And then about a year and a half of us working together , um, the business was , uh , named the top photographers in the world. So that was pretty crazy. And so when people say, Oh, you know, you were a photographer. Yeah, that's how I built the business. And part of what we do in social curator is still shoot photos. And so strong presence of photos on social media and strong presence of creating those visual collaterals for our users. So that's the answer of yes, I am still a photographer and JD joined my bizarre , excuse me. Yeah. At the time it was my business is now our business, but JD had joined my business full time about two years into it and we just didn't even expect that to be the thing. But we started being booked for international photography gigs and they didn't want to travel by myself. And I was like, why don't we just kind of like poor break even for a while and like do something crazy. And lo and behold, when you double down on it, we were able to really build something big because we were both 100% dedicated to it.
Speaker 3Oh, I love that. That's amazing. And then so for you guys, had you been married for a while prior to going into business together? I mean you had been dating for a long time before even getting married, right? So you had had a long relationship prior to being also business partners.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're high school sweethearts. So we met like 1617 and we dated all through college, all through graduate school and we got married in September of 2005 and JD gifted me with my first camera December, 2005 so I spent about a year trying to figure it out on my own and he would help me like, I'm not like somebody who would look at and say like, Oh, she's smart or she's intelligent. Like for all intents and purposes, I scored like a nine 40 on my sat. Like nobody's like, Oh academically she's going to be a standout. And so whenever I had to like teach myself photography, I would ask him to help me read the camera manual. And so inadvertently of him helping me understand if he himself with teaching himself along the way. So it ended up being like a two for one educational opportunity. And by the time I asked him to transition into the business, he was pretty confident with the camera too .
Speaker 3That is awesome. Okay. So as you know here on this podcast, we're all about going deep. So I want to kind of dive deep on some of these things because one of the first questions that comes to mind for me is how was that shift of going from sweethearts, newlyweds, working your separate jobs, having your own thing to then being business partners and now you guys have been business partners and married for quite awhile. And one of the challenges with that. What has been amazing about that? Tell me more about this.
Speaker 1Well I'm actually happy that I'm the only person in this conversation cause I'm pretty sure JD would have a very differing opinion.
Speaker 3We invited JD at the wow ,
Speaker 1but he shines so bright. I would be like a withering little weed in a field compared to his radiant. Do I sound totally Smit with him? I'm sure I do and I don't even care. So you know, at the time I thought it was like a really hard moment because lucky for us, we met really young and we had great communication. He went to study at a soccer scholarship and studied in Northern California and I remained in Southern California. So for two and a half years we really had to have a foundation. I mean this is, I'm aging myself, but this is before like he had his own cell phone. Like we were still using pagers and he'd call me from like a pay phone . Why do I literally sound 87 I don't know. But we had to have a very structured, like we were communicating by way of email and writing letters and every other night we would chat for 30 minutes and he'd call me collect from a payphone. And it really forced us to have pretty awesome communication, which have served for the foundation of our relationship. And then later in marriage. So when we decided to get into business together, I felt like things were really solid. They were solid. But the more that the business grew and as quickly as the business grew, things became very complicated because who was responsible for tasks was always like murky. And I think that the thing that we've learned in life and in business is that we have a 50% partnership, but in particular aspects of our relationship, one of us mistake 51 and one of us mistake 49 so at the end of the day the decision making and the responsibilities falls on the person who is the 51% and we only came to this now Brittany Brown always talks about gold plated grit. It's our ability to look back at a difficult conversation and then we'd like cover it in gold and say see what happens friends, everything worked out. It was all amazing. But like if you strip away that like veneer of like the gold, what you see is like a lump of dirt. Like it was a really hard time when we had got to this point and I'll never forget we were going to a photography shoot and my husband has run at a gas, not one, not two, not three but five or six times in his life. Okay. Who runs out of gas? My husband, not once but multiple times. So we're driving to the shoot and I said, Hey, I think that we should get some gas. And he said, no, we're fine. And I said, we're going to a shoot in Los Angeles. We need gas. And he's like, no, we're fine. And to anybody else in the world who's listening conversation, it doesn't sound like much, but let me tell you, it was like a cold run inside my stomach. I was boiling if like steam was coming out of my ears and I just did the thing that like, I do so well. I just turn and I look out the window as if the passing landscape out here in LA is so amazing. Like the cinder block walls. I was so interested. All of a sudden, I didn't say a single word. As we drive down the five freeway, we pull off, he pulls right into a gas station and he has the audacity to turn to me and say, see, we made it week baby Jesus. He unbuckled the seatbelt and hopper the car because I was like, my nails are going to be like, I'm gonna turn into a cat right now. I'm going to claw your eyes out because, and I didn't understand then why I was so incensed. And so we get to the shoe and I just have to put everything. Like I'm there to be professional and he's there to be professional but I don't even want to look at the brother. So that night we get in the car after all is said and done and it's dark outside and I can't look out the window cause it's all black. And so he says what's wrong? And I say nothing, which is like a code red, high alert. Something's very wrong. And um, he's just like, this isn't about the gas is it? And I was just like, well since you opened Pandora's box, let all hell break loose. Yes, it's about the gas. I am the lead. Like I'm a photographer, this is my business. And that is not something healthy. You say to your business partner. And he had said, I understand why now you're upset. I thought you and I were having a husband, wife conversation and you were having a business partner conversation. You were having a first photographer, second photographer conversation. He's like, we need to clearly identify who is taking the lead on very specific girls in our life, in our business. I mean that conversation on the way home, I am telling you broke down walls of communication because now I mean since then we have clearly identified that when we are on shoot days it's 51 Jasmine when we are in travel days it's 51 J D when it comes to taxes and finances and shipping and behind the things and households , it's 51 JD and now it helps us really calibrate how we have conversations and at the end of the day if two of us vehemently disagree about something, whoever's that 51% takes the lead, it takes the ownership and then stands by that. And that has just been such a groundbreaking experience for us. Wow. I love that. I love hearing how it, it started in you know, this business situation but how that also pours over into your personal life cause it's so hard to separate all of it. So when someone has 51% let's say. Okay, can you give us actually a specific example of like personal life. So you said like home staff or something like that where someone has 51% I love this because I have never, and Robin , you know I have done podcasts, like I've done podcasts, like a ton of them. I've never spoken about this and it makes me a little bit sweaty. I love it. I'm scared, I'm scared. I don't know where we're going. You know it gets crazy because for all intents and purposes we do like, you know like we show a lot of our lives on social media and people can have a , like they have an opinion about what that looks like, but what we really show is about 1% of everything that goes on in our lives. Right? It's like a little tiny peat , the tiniest tiny, right? So I don't really openly talk a lot about what a home life looks like, but because we're being very deep on this podcast, I absolutely will because you're like a beloved friend. I am the first to admit that I am not, you know, Holly homemaker, like that was never my skillset and I'm very thankful that I'm married to a man who enjoys cooking. Like he's very good at it. He loves hosting, he loves being like the nucleus of a party and hosting dinners. So when it comes to 51 49 I don't go grocery shopping. And so if there is nothing in our refrigerator, I have the right to say JV , when are you going grocery shopping? Right? Like that's an end . It's not offensive and it's not like somebody lording over. But like right. That's his responsibility. It's your thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. And yet when it comes to talking to our CPA, I don't want to have that conversation. Like that's your conversation. And the way that we've discussed it , I'm like, I can't get tied up in meetings where it's like I'm not, absolutely , it's not a necessity to have me there. So home life, like I have the right to ask questions if things aren't done. CPA, like I have the right to say like I don't need to be that meeting. And then JD , he , since he's 51 says this is a meeting you absolutely have to be at and I can't disagree with him. [inaudible] I love it. Now I have to dig a little deeper. Do you feel, this is one of the things I like to talk about is where women feel pressure, right? To like be a certain way. Oh God. And this could be where it's going wrong. I see. I'm like, God, I'm blowing on my hands right now . I'm laughing so hard right now. Okay. So when you say like, you know, I don't share a lot about this, do you feel pressure that you do need to be more of that homemaker color ? Yes. You do. Calling yourself from others from , yeah, like to all of it to 100% all of it. Like I say this to your face. Okay. I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with how good of a mom and wife you are. And now I know obviously you don't feel that way, but like let me see, like when you get your Instacart order and you like lay out all that healthy food and you like talk about doing your like three chili crockpot awesomeness, I'm like, Oh my God. Like I want her to make me dinner and to , I don't eat, I can't eat. Like I don't do 1% of that like so I'm only like, Oh God. Like I'm pretty terrible. I think that as you know, I say this lovingly, like I'm so proud of my culture and my heritage, but also culturally strongly like women are the house, like the matrons of the house, you know, they do that. Like my husband's , Oh my God, we were 17 years old by this time, JD and I went to this place called Knott's scary farm. It's not very far, but during Halloween they keep it open late at night, they scare the crazies out of you. So then late that night we get back to his house. It's like midnight and we walk into his house and his mom wakes up in a long satin gown and a robe . She says, me, Whoa , you guys are here. Let me make you some bean and cheese burritos, and she makes this homemade flour tortillas from scratch and brings out beans and cheese and salsa. It's by the time it's 1230 and I think to myself, Oh my God, is this with this man IX X for the rest of his life because I make you Kool-Aid on a hot day. Just , you know, I think there's pressure from our families. I think it's like my mom is like his mom a while to understand that we're good, that our situation isn't just beneficial to me. It's beneficial to him. He enjoys it like this is his jam, this is what he does really well. I think that people, because we don't and have children right now, that people are like, Oh well she can do that because she doesn't have any children. Or she could do that because she has a business partner or she can have a clean kitchen because there's nobody in there like messing it up. I hear that quite often on social and I think it's a double edged sword. You know, like I'm really proud that I'm really proud that my house is neat but also at the same time has anybody ever considered that? Maybe we would like a little kid running around messing it up. You know? I mean I just think it's easy to have a perspective without [inaudible]
Speaker 3really knowing the backstory . Totally. And people come at come from their own, you know, when they're sending messages on Instagram or seeing just that little snippet of your life. Like you said, they don't know the whole story. And that is like one of the reasons I wanted to have this podcast was to help people remember that, you know, when you're following people online, there's so much more we show, you know, it might feel like you're following someone around their whole day and you know, their whole marriage and their whole setup and their whole routine. But it's just like if you really add it up, it's probably like three minutes, three minutes that you're seeing into their day and just a tiny, tiny bit of the story. Oh, totally. Totally. Yeah. So how have you kind of worked through that? Like, because what I love about you is that you know yourself so well. You know your roles, you know your strengths, you know you Excel in areas where JD doesn't and you guys have figured that out and the business, but also in home, right? If JD loves cooking and loves entertaining, like why would you, I kind of want JD to come to my house. I wish my husband , you know, so I love that about you, that you know yourself, but has that been like, what do you do with that now? Are you continually having to work through this or do you feel like you've gotten to a pretty solid place of feeling like, Nope, this is what works for us. This is what works for me and I have to put up with some pressure from other people and some off comments, but I'm confident in where I am. Or do you really struggle here still?
Speaker 1Well, I'm classically trained in the art of avoidance just so that you know, I've learned quickly on the internet that when you put something out you can, you never get it back. [inaudible] and there have things in moments and situations and subjects that I won't talk about online because you just, you can't get it back. And so I do not in any way, shape or form show a lot or talk a lot about our roles when it comes to like domestic situation because then you give people or people feel that they have the rights to have an opinion and talk about it. When I do get offhanded comments, it's not because I actually brought people into this space or wanted to talk about it, but they just decided to make up an opinion. And so I can deal with that because I'm like, you know nothing about that. That's okay. Like hurt people hurt people. And I know you're having a bad day, so I don't take it personally. That is literally how I view it. If I were to go out online and have like an Instagram live or an Instagram post or do a blog post or a Facebook live and talking about the husband wife dynamic and what works for us, I literally open up so many different ways and mechanisms for people to ask me really personal questions and have opinions that I don't want to talk about. So I don't feel pressure, but I don't bring it up. So anything I don't want to talk about online or anything that I don't want people to have a strong opinion about, I just don't talk about it.
Speaker 3I love that and I think this is a fine line and that's important for people to remember as well. I mean, myself included is boundaries on social media, boundaries with what we share, right? We're walking in this time where we want everything to be totally authentic and we want all the real stuff and we don't want a curated experience on social media. And yet as people who are on social media, it's important for us to find that balance that works for us. Where do we share openly and honestly and share everything and where do we keep those healthy boundaries for ourselves, our family and our wellbeing. And I know you do this and I love that like you are an open book about the things that your community cares about, right? Like 100 like your journey, your struggles as a business owner, you are like one of the most vulnerable people in that department. And in the same way for me, I will tell you anything and everything about my body image. I mean people will be like, you share that in an email with thousands of people and like yes, I will tell you I am not, I am open to this. It's fine. This is where I am making a difference in the world and this is my heart and my passion. I will tell you anything and everything about my health, whatever you want to know. But my kids, you know, some of the things we're going through with them or my marriage things we're working through there, it's like I cure rate that, you know, I don't know if curate is the word. I don't curate that, but I would Andrew around it.
Speaker 1Exactly. Robin . I was going to say protect. You do not curate . Yes. They not cure hoods . You do not curate Matt . Exactly. Exactly. You protect it. And that is strongly the word that I use and the conversations that my husband and I have. If I don't talk about something, it's because I'm protecting it. I'm not hiding.
Speaker 3Yeah . Mmm . And that is such an important distinction. And thank you because it's exactly the opposite. I feel like if I was my kids publicly,
Speaker 1I would need to curate it in order to, if I needed to protect myself. But instead I'm just protecting that area in a way that feels good. I'll share like a certain level and then that's good. But I'm not going to go into the details where I don't, I know I'm too sensitive to other people's opinions. So good. So I appreciate that. And I think that's so important for everyone to consider in the online space of what works for you is different from the next person. And so find what works for you. Find your boundary, find what you want to protect, find what you love sharing and lean into that. Can I add a little bit of clarity because sometimes you talk about this and it just gets like super esoteric and super like heady. So yes, people are listened . So girlfriends, let's break this down into actionable steps. Like write down three things that you, no matter what people ask you about are totally comfortable sharing those three things. And within those three sectors you have to be dedicated to be 100% vulnerable, real and authentic because oftentimes people are like, but I don't know how to be myself. We're not called to be 100% of our selves, a hundred percent online with 100% of topics or subject matters. What we are called to do is when you do show up, you show up 100 and so what are the three things that you know that come, what may your okay to cm by them and talk about them and that's where you test the waters. Anything that doesn't fall into those three categories initially. Now you can have more categories but starting for three is like a great place to start. Anything that's not within those categories. You don't have to show up, you don't have to be guilty, you don't have to like bend to the rules you do you, but commit to the categories 100 because if you are committing just to 72% 80% and you're curating, people smell it and they will call you out on it. [inaudible] [inaudible] thank you. I love that. Right now would you say in this season of life that you're in, what are your priorities and with that in order to focus on some of those priorities, what have you kind of had to let go of in this season? My priority is my theme or families. I have really great in-laws. JD has four sisters and a wonderfully fantastic overbearing mother. And it's so great because I feel like, Oh, I casually joke that I embody all of his sisters and his mom, so he knows how to deal with whatever personality, me and my multiple personalities. He knows how to deal with all of them in a varied ways. Very fortunate. I have a wonderful, wonderful family. I have three sisters and a brother, and this goes back to my definition of success. Now it's super important for me and anybody who's listening is that like oftentimes we've been told by societal standards that success looks a certain way. Like success is a Ferrari. It's a pool party with a baby giraffe. Girls in bikinis drinking cores light with like a banner above the house and then like the fireworks show, like you know, it's like you have your Butler, you're going on six figure vacations in your private jet. That is what society will say is success. And here's the thing, I'm not going to turn away a private jet, you know? But in the process of getting the private jet, I lose the things I lose sight of the things that matter to me most. I am not a success. I'm just rich and I don't want to be rich. I want to be deeply and profoundly successful on my terms and what my terms of success are. Being able to create every single day on my terms, on my schedule in sweat pants , working with my love and my business partner, supporting our families indiscriminately, traveling the world and empowering others to believe in the impossible if I need to do things that move me away from that, I'm not a success. So my priorities, first and foremost right now are spending time with our families. My mom battled two forms of brain cancer and we actually, the time that my husband and I got married, I was simultaneously planning my mom's funeral and we, you know, dated nine years. And then we planned our wedding in like less than three months. So it was like this really pivotal time in my life and that I realized that life is so short and fleeting and we're not guaranteed anything. And I think that that kind of like pivot in my life, like the universe just shook me and said, wake up that that was then like, Oh, every moment we can to spend with our families is what I'm going to do. So my priorities are family. And then , uh , priorities would be the team. We work with a very small, tiny but mighty amazing team. I want to make sure that they're standing in their purpose, they feel safe and they feel supported. And then the third priority for us would be making sure that I love and respect my husband the way that he feels love and respect. So it's really different. Like, you know, the five love languages. Okay. His is quality time and physical touch. And those are my two lowest, like by far my husband quality time. And like to me, I always think like, Oh, we're in the car together. And he's like, but if you're on your phone or the phone is even out, not quality time. So he's lots of rules around what he considers quality time . So that 100% is where my priority is. Making sure that I'm carving out time. No digital media. It's just the two of us. And like for him, he's so stoked just to like sit on the beach together and like talk,
Speaker 3wait. But like coming in , see I got my quality time with Dave . That's why he was just so like, Oh he was head over heels but no friend he found on the beach. Oh my gosh. Okay. So this has been amazing. First of all, thank you for sharing so openly with us on some topics that maybe are not what you're used to chatting about on podcasts. But I want to go into like, I love to finish with just a few like super quick kind of lightning round questions and then I've got one final question to wrap it up. Are you good to do that? I'm good. Okay, so it's Friday night restaurant takeout or a home cooked meal. What do you choose? Restaurant. What's a favorite beauty product that you can't live without? Dry shampoo.
Speaker 1Amen. Netflix, marathon or books in bet books in bed. And what's your go to ? Healthy snack. Raw almonds, [inaudible] . And lastly, as you know, as I mentioned earlier, this whole podcast is really just to encourage other women to live with more freedom and less guilt. To understand that we're all making choices each day to find our own unique sense of balance and that there's not one way to do things. So what is one encouragement that you would leave for our listeners when it comes to living their own unique version of a happy, healthy, balanced life? I think I'm going to harken back to a part in an earlier conversation. It's grace over guilt with realistic expectations. Like it's , to me it's just like you can't give grace yourself if you don't understand why the Christ was married at like the minute you put up the parameters and say, Oh, this is what I realistically I can do. And when I don't do all the things on my list, Oh that's when grace comes in. So understand that grace is completely, completely generously bestowed on us. But also when we set it the realistic parameters, we're just so much more open to it. [inaudible] thank you. That's so good. Can we just give it up for Robin asking really great questions. I've done so many podcasts with amazing people, but she really has a way of peeling back the layers to reveal the root of each topic instead of kind of skimming the surface. I do want to let you know that we edit out a few minutes of this interview to keep it at a more digestible length for my listeners, but if you would like to listen to the full episode, I have the balanced life podcast linked in the show notes@thejasminestarshow.com. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on iTunes yell. They just, your reviews help the show get discovered by more amazing business owners and I believe that together we can make changes, changes that result in how you live your life and how you run your business and all of that points to more freedom, financial and personal. But I would also, I mean I can't ask you for something, not give you something in return. Okay? I would love to give you a gift and say thank you. If you do spread the love after you go to iTunes and you leave your review, can you head to Jasmine, star.com board slash podcast review there? You can access an exclusive training I did with my mentor James Wedmore. It's entitled how to raise your prices without losing customers. I know the theme of this year so far in the show has been really focused on doubling your business in 2020 and if you are on this bag and with me a , uh , you're going to need it . James's class full of practical tips in mind blowing pricing strategies. So lever of you and then go to Jasmine, star.com board slash podcast review and say to underprice packages and hello to products packed with value. Again, thank you for tuning into the Jasmine star show and I'll see you next time.
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