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14. Blame Canada?
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It's crude, it's offensive, and it's far more carefully crafted than it has any right to be. Our two hosts revisit South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut and talk about its incredible soundtrack. Could it be that beneath the juvenile exterior of this crass movie lies true craft, talent and sophistication? And did this ridiculous movie predict the world we're living in now?
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I don't quite know how to open this episode because I'm not entirely sure what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_09That makes two of us.
SPEAKER_01We came up with the idea to talk about uh this the music of the South Park movie, the 1999 movie. We've called this um Blame Canada because one of the funny things about the South Park movie were the shots it took at Canada.
SPEAKER_09Well, I think this is something that's kind of interesting to touch on. You know, in 1999, the premise of Canada and the US having any sort of beef was so outrageous that they made it the entire plot of uh, you know, some of the most um famous people in terms of doing outrageous uh political parodies. So um it doesn't seem that that uh unrealistic these days, which is fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_01And speaking of fucking crazy, uh when we first sat down and and made notes about starting this new revamped version of the podcast, one thing we talked a little bit about was whether or not we wanted to include swearing in the podcast. And it was actually me that suggested that we don't swear because I thought, well, maybe this thing could go somewhere, it might get played somewhere, or you know, where swearing would would be a bit of a roadblock, and you know, maybe we want to have this accessible to younger people or something like that. And you made it pretty clear that you would find it difficult to not swear, and then I realized that I'd probably find it difficult to not swear, also, and we decided not to worry about it, and this episode is going to blow that completely out of the water.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, this is we need to put a parental advisory. Um, if you have any young children, tell them to leave the room now.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah. If if anyone listening has n is somehow unaware of the content in the South Park movie, this isn't just a couple of swear words here and there, this is all out.
SPEAKER_09And I mean it was kind of part of the premise of the movie as well, right? Because um in the show before that, any of the swearing was always bleeped out, and that was kind of part of the the comedic thing of it as well. But you know, I remember seeing this movie and hearing them swear. I think I think the episodes that they play today um are uncensored. So like you actually hear the yeah, you hear them all swear. But that wasn't how it started, was it?
SPEAKER_01And I forgot that. I forgot that until I rewatched it the other night.
SPEAKER_09And that was such a big deal, right? When Terrence and Philip start swearing, that's what And the boys react.
SPEAKER_01They they go, Whoa. Yeah, this is awesome. And we're so used to hearing them swear now, like you say, that I was like, Oh, that's right, they didn't used to swear. How how how funny? Yeah.
SPEAKER_09And that was sort of like the big reveal, and I think that was the whole thing with like um Bigger, Louder, and Uncut, right? Was they could actually swear and they could kind of build up on the jokes that they've been sort of alluding at for a while.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Now have you in your study looked up the original proposed name for the movie?
SPEAKER_09No, I didn't see that at all. What was it?
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't remember. I just I just remembered right then that it there there was some story to it. They they had some controversial name uh proposed and it was rejected. And the bigger longer uncut was seen as less controversial, but it was obviously had a double double entundra. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_08I feel like most of their jokes, most of their jokes are like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, one thing I find really uh great about shows like South Park, and and I can say the same thing about other shows like Family Guy as well, is the high level of production, the high level of writing, everyone in all uh in all fields is firing at such a high level for this sort of silly jokey show.
SPEAKER_08Oh, totally.
SPEAKER_01You know, like and it's it's interesting because I'm actually in no way interested in toilet humour or anything like that. I don't find it funny. Um I never have. It's not a it's not a night.
SPEAKER_09There's a little bit of it in some of these songs.
SPEAKER_01That's it. That's what I think is quite strange, like in a way. But I I think it's because I tolerate it in this stuff because the writing is so smart.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And um the stuff they talk about and and the the level of of craftsmanship that goes into it. And that's really what I wanted to start talking about was the music in this movie is absolutely fantastic.
SPEAKER_09Agreed. And I think it's you know, obviously, we have all of the historical context of things that they've done after and adjacent to South Park as well. So it's it's not, you know, we all know about the Book of Mormon, um, so it's it's not that outlandish to think of these guys writing these high-level musical numbers. But I don't know if that was as well known before this. You know, this was this was I feel like this was sort of a launching pad for um, you know, giving them a bit of a license to do a lot more with the musical side of the show. And they definitely had um songs that were part of the uh early um you know startups where they were kind of shorts before they actually became episodes on Comedy Central. Right. Um and even I think some of the songs in the movie itself were actually through like callbacks um to songs that they had done earlier.
SPEAKER_10Right.
SPEAKER_09But that wasn't something that, you know, this sort of level of musicianship for this movie was was something that was a bit special. Yeah. And I think um it was quite quite well regarded by, you know, people in the industry as well. Like there's um some really famous quotes from um uh Sant Santa Oh, what's his name?
SPEAKER_01Santana?
SPEAKER_09No, um no, uh the musical Oh fucking Santheim. Sandheim uh fuck, I'm drawing a blank now. Um there's a very famous musical writer, um, kind of in the the realm of like Andrew Lloyd Weber, um who sent them a letter after Team America came out saying, like, hey, this is this is one of my favorite pieces of of art I've seen in a little while. If you guys ever want to get into the more um you know, Broadway side of things and you want to work with a tr a traditionalist like me, you know, give me a call. Um I think it was Stephen Sondheim.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_09I don't know how to say his last name, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that's who it was.
SPEAKER_01Are you saying this was before the South Park movie?
SPEAKER_09So this was this was after, but he had said uh Team America was a few years ago. Yeah, that that did come after, but uh he had said that this was the best musical of the year in 1999 when it came out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because how old was South Park at that point? I feel like it had only actually been out for a few years.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I don't think it was that long. No. Didn't write that down, but I'd be curious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because it blew up pretty quickly. I mean, Liz Claypool also points out when he wrote the music for the the theme, he thought he was just writing a silly thing for his friend. Yeah. He had no idea it was gonna go anywhere.
SPEAKER_09It was gonna still be on the air and making new episodes today.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and and is arguably the biggest thing he's ever done. Yeah. Which is actually pretty crazy. But the music was um written by a composer called Mark Shaman, who uh actually has an amazing um repertoire of of movies he's worked on. He's a serious composer. I mean you can you can hear it in the music.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, you can. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I saw an interview with him where he was talking about the South Park movie and he was saying it's one of the greatest gigs he ever had, which was awesome. He didn't he didn't um belittle it at all. You know, he took it very seriously.
SPEAKER_09And I feel like to kind of pull off what like to pull off something that is so so immature and and um just like uh, you know, swearing heavy and toilet humor heavy, but to actually make it as good as they did and to to still give it, you know, some real world political oomph as well, it's it's very impressive.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And I think that that seriousness in the craft is is so important. Uh I think it's easy for people to think that comedy is comedy if you just sort of wink at the camera and do a couple of smirks or whatever. But you know, you you hear about the amount of effort that Rowan Atkinson would go into in writing Mr. Bean and his other characters, Black Adder and so on. And I remember read uh hearing a what was it? Well, I heard about somehow, I read about um the effort that John Cleese went into about choosing the exact branch to hit his um mini with in Fawdy Towers.
SPEAKER_09Did you watch Foldy Towers? I know of it, but didn't watch much of it now.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. It's easily one of the funniest shows ever made.
SPEAKER_09I watched more of Monty Python, but never Well, you need to you need to make some time.
SPEAKER_01There we go. He only made about six episodes or something. Oh, there we go. I can get through it. Maybe it was twelve. It was some unbelievable small number of episodes. And it arguably changed comedy forever. Just some of the best writing and incredible. But there's a scene where he gets really angry with his car, and in a in a kind of a tantrum state, he goes and gets a branch and starts beating his car with it. And he talks in an interview about how much effort he went into uh finding the right branch. And they found one branch that was too flimsy and it didn't have the same impact. But another branch was too big and strong and it and it felt more aggressive. But this this branch he ended up with was sort of limp and it sort of reflected him as a character, this sort of limp dick kind of thing. And it was a thing he j he put a lot of thought and time and effort into getting the right branch, which gives you an insight as as to how he thought about everything else he Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So I love I love when you look at stuff like this. It's a silly movie with little boys swearing and and making these ridiculous jokes, but everything about it is so well done.
SPEAKER_09100%. Yeah, I totally agree. Should we uh start off the opening number?
SPEAKER_01Well, I wanted to ask you first what the Canadians uh uh reaction to the movie was.
SPEAKER_09I mean, I was pretty young when it came out, so I definitely wouldn't speak on the behalf of an entire country. Um but I know amongst you know myself and my friends, we all thought it was friggin' hilarious. Right. Um so yeah, I feel like every time they do stuff with Canadian characters in South Park, most Canadians, at least the most Canadians in my circle always loved it. Yeah. Because it's it's you know, it's hilarious. Um and it's uh they do it in a way where it's it's fun to laugh at yourself. It doesn't it I mean it's it's obviously quite jokey. Um I'm sure I'm sure some people probably get insulted by it, but I think it's always done with quite a bit of earnestness. It it feels like a a genuine ribbing as opposed to something that's super serious. So I've always found it to be absolutely hilarious.
SPEAKER_01I don't think New Zealand would handle it well. Really? If Australia made a show and and we had like these weird detachable heads and we were the the butt of the joke, I think would get really upset. Oh, really? I think it would get really insecure and defensive. No, I agree with you. I think we should I think we uh lack the ability to laugh at ourselves a little bit here. Who gives a shit? Yeah, yeah. I assume that the comedy there was based on basically nothing, right? Just a funny feud or something? I have no idea how it started, to be honest. Right. And the and the funny shaped heads with the just nothing, right?
SPEAKER_09It's just a joke. I'll have to look that up. If anyone knows, please put it in the group afterwards.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Because I took it that way when I first watched it. Like, this is I mean, there's nothing to this, right? There's it's just a silly joke. I assume so.
SPEAKER_09I don't know, maybe Trey and and uh Matt actually hate Canadians. I don't know. Yeah. I don't think so though. It definitely I never got that vibe. What do you think the movie was about? Uh to me it felt like it was about censorship. Right. Yeah. Because I think that's what they were struggling with as well. Like, I know um I know South Park has had issues, well, since since its inception until today, where you know they make fun of of everybody and everything, and they poke fun at a lot of people in power. And I know they've had issues um around censorship and freedom of speech and stuff like that. And I feel like this was a a very early sort of fuck you, we're gonna say whatever we want and and make the show we want to make. Um that was always the the vibe I kind of got, but curious, curious what you think.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I I think I think you're definitely right. I think it's also uh quite interesting to watch it now in the current climate because of course what they're uh talking about a lot is is people getting swept up in these knee-jerk, uh, reactive arguments. Um they think they're right, they're backed up by their group, they go on protest and let's take down the man and blah blah blah blah blah. And there's no rational thought, there's no critical thinking, there's no there's no um real due process involved. And the way the movie concludes where where they would rather have all out war than have swearing on TV is is absolutely ludicrous. Yeah. Um and the movie does it so well. I think this is one of the reasons why at all costs we should always defend comedy, because comedy is the amazing ability to snap us out of our bullshit. 100%.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. You know, comedy is should be the the court jester who's able to actually poke fun at the king and make people think. Right. And um yeah, that's not always that's not always the reality we live in, but um these guys these these guys do it better than anyone else.
SPEAKER_01That's right. So you could say that these these this little show with these little silly characters is actually absolutely needed.
SPEAKER_09Oh, 100%. I mean, if you look at even the stuff that's happening today, you know, I know amongst my friends and I, like, when something big happens, pretty much one of our first thoughts is oh wait, I can't wait to see what Telsark does with this. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So clever. Yeah. So clever. Yep. All right.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so this is Mountain Town. Yeah. This is the opening song, opening sequence. Like a lot of good musicals, it really um sets up the premise of the story and and where we're heading.
SPEAKER_03There's a bunch of birds in the sky.
unknownAnd some tears just went running.
SPEAKER_01I did find it interesting after all these years how I better remember most of it.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I was surprised how much I remembered too. Yeah.
unknownJust another Sunday morning in my quiet mountain.
SPEAKER_09The actual music behind it's quite nice.
SPEAKER_01It's beautiful. I mean, it's so well written. Yeah. And again, what's his name? Mark Shaman. Mark Shaman, yeah. He's a heavy way.
SPEAKER_03All the happy people stop to say hello. Get on to my words. Temperatures low. It's a perfect Sunday morning in my quiet little mountain town.
SPEAKER_02Well, good morning, Stan. Mom, could I have $8 to see a movie? A movie? Yeah, it's gonna be the best movie ever. It's a foreign film from Canada. All right, here you go. But be back for supper.
SPEAKER_09So much happens just from a simple movie. Yeah. Foreign film from Canada.
SPEAKER_02Just like Jesus E's tender and mild. He'd wear a smile while I wore a thorny crow. What an angel with a heart so sweet and sure. And a mind so open and pure. Thank God we live in this quiet redneck mountain town. Dude, dude, wake up.
SPEAKER_01Would this be a full orchestra doing all this? I think so. Yeah. Given that this is almost 30 years ago. I think the Simpsons were the last show that regularly used in Orchestra. I don't know if they still do now. They might.
SPEAKER_14Well, fine. You go ahead and miss church, and then when you die and go to hail, you can answer the sight.
SPEAKER_06See homeless people, but you just don't care. It's a stupid thing.
SPEAKER_03I did a laugh out loud when they put in the little white red red red mountain.
SPEAKER_14Take the baby. You broke it out the window! That's a bad baby. Bad baby! Come on, we're going to the Tantum Phillip movie.
unknownOh my goodness.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, just thinking about how the temple does kind of float around a little bit.
SPEAKER_01That's what a conductor's job in the end.
SPEAKER_14Look at those frail and fragile boys. It really gets me down.
SPEAKER_09Gets a bit sinister when uh Kyle's mom starts talking to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she's really gonna be the villain of the movie, isn't she?
SPEAKER_09They're setting it up right at the start.
SPEAKER_01Yep. I love it how these composers know music to such a degree that they can use the math of music to reflect the emotion that the story's trying to tell. In fact, they arguably add a massive amount of the emotion to the movie. Yeah, 100%. That's true, of course, for most movies with unbreaks.
SPEAKER_09Now we're back to uplifting rolls identical to our movie.
SPEAKER_03Do I have five tickets to chance to book out of the fire, please? No.
SPEAKER_09So of course the movie um is full of swearing, so they couldn't get in um without paying a homeless guy to get them tickets.
SPEAKER_01Is it worth saying, like, if you haven't seen the movie, we're gonna ruin it for you? I mean it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_09Well, I mean it did come out in 1999, so you've had fair warning, but yeah, I guess spoilers alert, we're gonna we're gonna run through it and we are gonna ruin the movie if you haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Yeah. Now, did you ever sneak into a movie that way?
SPEAKER_09I actually don't remember movie theaters ever blocking me from seeing a movie, but uh not that way, but we used to buy tickets for a movie we could go see and then just go into the other one. Yeah, right, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't think I ever had to even go that far. I think I just went to whatever. I don't know if they ever checked. Maybe they didn't. It's New Zealand, she'll be right. There was a bit of that. Yeah. Same with the bar scene in the early days. I don't I think they started ideing people properly after I was already old enough to go to bus. Something. I don't think I've I never had a false idea or anything. I just and I was playing at them. I was you know, I was underage and playing at the bus.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. So now they the boys um have paid a homeless guy to get them tickets. They're going in to see the Terrence and Phillip movie Asses of Fire. Now these are the characters in the movies, right? Yeah, Uncle Fucker, yes, it's true.
SPEAKER_00You don't eat no sleep on Mother Long, you just fuck your uncle all day long.
SPEAKER_09We don't have dueling bandals, we got dueling buttholes.
SPEAKER_01What's going on?
SPEAKER_09Apparently this one was supposed to originally be motherfucker, but it would have changed the rating of the movie for some reason, and Uncle Fucker was okay. No idea why. Who knows?
SPEAKER_01But then it's the kind of committee-minded corporate bullshit.
SPEAKER_09Exactly. And then and then Trey, Trey and Matt afterwards said they both actually thought Uncle Fucker ended up being funny. Yeah, it's that one actually got nominated for an MTV Music Award for uh Best Musical Performance of the Year. Must have not been a great year. Yeah, so after this, um, just a little bit of context for the next song. So the boys come out of the movie theater, they think this is the greatest thing ever. They go and tell all the other, you know, school children um, hey, we went and saw the Terrence and Phillip movie, and they start talking like this. So they're swearing at everybody they can see. They're calling people like a donkey raping ass eater. And this was weird.
SPEAKER_01The other kids are like, Whoa.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, the other kids are like, oh wow, these guys are swearing. And and once again, you know, they had they obviously did swear in the show beforehand, but it was always censored. This is the first time where the kids are actually swearing and it's not being censored. So that causes a whole bunch of issues at school. They start swearing at the teachers, and the teacher um makes them go uh for a seminar with the guidance counselor, Mr. Mackey.
SPEAKER_01Out of interest, what was uh what was it like at your home growing up? Was swearing a big deal, or was it just not not really a thing? Or and I know your mum listens to this. Hi, Mike's mum. We're gonna talk about you now.
SPEAKER_09Um swearing was one of those things that we weren't supposed to do, but both my parents uh kind of have a little bit of sailors' tongues. Um my my grandma used to tell us we'd get one swear a day. And then like my brothers and I would like make it count, you know. You you really throw it in there when it when it was uh had the most impact.
SPEAKER_01Pass me the gravy cunt.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. See, that's no, that's a kiwi and Australian word. That's that's a word I wouldn't be allowed to say.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's the one that seems to be beyond swearing.
SPEAKER_09It's so weird. In America at least. Yeah, it's so weird. North Americans have a real um yeah, real a real something about that word, it just really sticks out to the noticed that in in the South Park movie they say fuck is the worst word that you can say.
SPEAKER_01And I remember watching that going, really?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, because that one just wouldn't even on the radar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, funny. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, I had the opposite. Um my parents swore a little bit here and there, but it was silly swearing. Oh bloody hell. Mm-hmm. That kind of thing, which that's not really swearing. Like, we know what you mean. Yeah. You know. But they had these really silly rules, and I grew up thinking the whole thing was stupid. You know, it's a mouth sound. Yeah. You know, I didn't see how it was better if you meant the same thing but chose a different word, and I remember saying To someone. Imagine if you went to another planet and they were telling you about their language and they said you can say boop, but you can't say bop. You know. They mean the same thing, but you d you can't say bop. You'd be like, what? It is weird. Yeah. It's just one of these things that's caught on. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I don't really think about it. Yeah. It's not it's not about not being rude, because you can be rude without swearing. It's not it's not about not being mean spirited or attacking someone. You can do that without swearing. It's just, it's it's almost like a belief system we have.
SPEAKER_09It's also kind of one of those things that it's, you know, because you're not supposed to say it, it makes it more fun. Absolutely. You know, like if you if you have friends who speak another language, what are the first things you learn? You learn how to swear.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. You know, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Some of my best friends in university were Serbian, and I always joke, like, if I ever go to Serbia, I'm either gonna get my ass kicked immediately or have a great time. Like it's gonna be one of the two because all I know is to say dirty things.
SPEAKER_01I might I might um regret saying this uh on a recording, but my attitude towards my um daughter, who's too young to understand any of this stuff yet, is not to tell her not to swear, but teach her the right time to swear. Teach her about context. Because there's always the right time to tell someone to fuck off. Oh, I agree. I agree. Happens more often than we admit. Exactly. Alright, here's the next one.
SPEAKER_05There are times when you get suckered in by drugs and alcohol and sex with women. Okay, but it's when you do these things that you've become an addict and must get back.
SPEAKER_01I wonder where the mm-K thing came from. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_05I think it is actually with a little plan, you can change your life to time. You don't have to spend your life addicted to smack. Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for crack. Follow my plan, and very soon you will sing. It's easy and kind.
SPEAKER_09I think they actually had someone at their school when they were growing up who had that sort of inflection.
SPEAKER_01See, it means the same thing. Yeah. I knew Christians that would instead of saying fuck would say flip. And I'm like, but isn't the whole point that God judges your intentions? You mean fucking your heart? Uh exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Still good.
SPEAKER_09I like the music on this one too.
SPEAKER_05Okay, that's the one I was thinking of. I love the good So uh Mr.
SPEAKER_09Mackey thinks that he got through to the children, and um he says, you know what, you guys can have the rest of your afternoon off. So all the kids leave his seminar and immediately go and re-watch the Terrence and Phillips movie. And um they keep swearing just as much. And um in the movie, there's a scene uh where Terrence or Philip, whichever one it is, lights a fart on fire, and the boys start having a conversation saying, Oh, you can't actually light a fart on fire, and Cartman says, Well, I bet you a hundred bucks you can. So Kenny takes the bet. Kenny lights this fart on fire and then um self-imolates and uh burns to death. So that's how Kenny dies in this episode.
SPEAKER_01Is that is doesn't he burst into flames and then get hit by a truck or something else? Yeah, yeah. They do they drag it so he drag it out.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, he gets hit by a bus, and then they go to the h hospital, and then he's not quite dead yet, and then one of the surgeons is microwaving a baked potato at the time, and they accidentally replace his heart with a baked potato, and then he dies after the battery.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, with that really funny scene. I'm sorry to tell you, we've accidentally swapped your heart out for a baked potato, and you've got three seconds to live. Was that was that George Clooney, the doctor? Oh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_09It sure sounded like him. I meant to look that up, but forgot. That would have been a great funny cameo. So so Kenny dies after his baked potato heart explodes, and then he starts um ascending to heaven, and then we get the next song.
SPEAKER_05Little boy at peace. What is this place? Beyond the stars.
SPEAKER_01So he's heading up to heaven, of course. He's heading up to heaven, yeah. Which is basically a big area of space filled with giant naked ladies. Yeah, that's all it was.
SPEAKER_04Which one you're a small boy?
SPEAKER_09Maybe that's what you thought it was.
SPEAKER_01Why are you distinguishing small boy? I mean.
SPEAKER_09So he gets denied, and he's going south.
unknownLittle boy, you're going to hell!
SPEAKER_01Now when I watched this, I thought that sounds like James Hetfield. It is James Hetfield. Yeah, but I looked it up and I couldn't actually find that it was, so you obviously.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's uh a band DVDA. I don't know who they are. But uh with James Hetfield on the vocals. Kenny should have done the church that's starting that opening song.
SPEAKER_04Hey fuck, face, have you seen crazy?
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it was performed by DVDA with James Hetfield on vocals. And uh uh ironically, that song wasn't on the soundtrack. So there's three songs that were in the movie that wasn't on the soundtrack. Don't know why. I wonder if maybe they didn't get the rights for the vocals or something.
SPEAKER_01It was pretty short as well. Very short. Maybe it wasn't a song. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09So Kenny goes to hell. The parents um start blaming the movie as opposed to blaming, you know, all of the issues that that ended up with his demise.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Um, and the parents of South Park started Mothers Against Canada. And then we get um Kyle's mom's uh famous song.
SPEAKER_14We must stop dirty language from getting to our children's ears. We must go find the source of it. But what is the source? Oh, that's easy. Times have changed! Our kids are getting worse. They won't obey the parents, they just want to boss and curse!
SPEAKER_02Should we blame the government or blame society?
SPEAKER_12Or should we blame the images on TV?
SPEAKER_02No, I can all be.
SPEAKER_09It's kind of like a military march, you know. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Very much so.
SPEAKER_02We need to form a pull of song. Don't blame me for my son Stan. He saw the darn cartoon and now he's off to join the country.
SPEAKER_01So I wonder if when you first saw it, I'm guessing you probably don't remember. But I wonder if the previews gave you enough of a heads up that it was gonna be a big joke towards Canada.
SPEAKER_09I have no idea.
SPEAKER_01Or if this was a big reveal.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, mm-hmm. Sure.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_12They're not even a real country anyway.
SPEAKER_01When I saw that. I think when I saw it, I may not have seen a preview. I think I might have seen it. So I'm pretty sure for me that was kind of like, what in Canada? What?
SPEAKER_09Or the doctors who allowed him to expire. No.
SPEAKER_06And the pitch of the city.
SPEAKER_09This song was actually nominated for an Academy Award for best original song. Wow. In 1999. That's cool. I don't think it won, but still, that's pretty cool. So good. The music in that one's great. It's incredible. That's um, I don't know, I don't know if you ever played um South Park came out with a couple like role-playing games. There's one called The Stick of Truth, where it was kind of like a game where um you know you play a new the new the new kid in South Park and you go on all these different crazy adventures. It's friggin' hilarious. It's probably my favorite video game I've ever played. Right. Yeah. And there's a whole section of the game where you uh traverse through like uh a portion of Canada, and when you go as soon as you cross the border into Canada, like all of this all of the wheels on cars are squares and all the flappy heads and stuff. And the whole time you're in the the Canada zone, that song is playing on loop in an eight in an eight-bit instrumental version. So the whole time you play it, I'm just sitting there bopping along, I'm playing Canada.
SPEAKER_01I did I did always like the meta side of this movie as well, like when they are talking about something and they go, and all the animation's all crappy, and it turns around and they go dunk dunk dunk dunk dunk.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, there's so many, so many jokes, and most of them are multi-level as well. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So the next one is Carl's Mum's a bitch.
SPEAKER_09And this was actually a this was a callback. So this one wasn't original to the movie. This was actually a song that was done in season one. Oh, but they they added some some lyrics to it since they can obviously swear and stuff and added a bit more to it. So you guys, this is all Carl's mom's mom. Every zero point eight seconds.
SPEAKER_01I love the warning you okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm getting pretty sick of him calling my mom. Stop your fucking mouth crap! This is a bitch sad, Wednesday, Saturday, she's a bitch. Come on, you all know the words? Talk to kids around the world that might go a little bit stuff like this.
SPEAKER_08The animation for this part is so funny too.
SPEAKER_01Can you imagine them getting away with this this these days? Probably not.
SPEAKER_08I don't know. They seem to just keep doing whatever they want to do anyways.
SPEAKER_01That's a good point. It's funny how some some shows make some little indiscretion and then it's a big hoo-ha. And then there are shows like this that are just leaning and double down. Just get away with it.
SPEAKER_09I love the little like slow jazzy bit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Jazz hands, yeah. A little scat on the end there.
SPEAKER_09I left this in the So he turns around and sees that um Sheila Broflovsky is is standing over him. Um now the reason he got so mad at Kyle's mom is because she started this Mothers Against Canada, and this is actually starting to kick off a war between the Americans and the Canadians. Um so after the song, uh they, you know, Sheila is incensed with Cartman and what he's done. Um, and some local scientists in South Park have come up with a V-chip, which uh changes which means that the children cannot actually swear. So Cartman is the test subject to get the V chip in, and he's not allowed to swear anymore after that song.
SPEAKER_01The chip is some of the funniest stuff in the movie though.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so he um every time you know he wants to say anything, he's getting zapped and he has to start saying, you know, butt instead of ass and and poo instead of shit and stuff like that, and all the other kids start making fun of him. Um and they're starting to feel quite helpless. You know, they don't they don't know, you know, what can they do. It's their moms that have started all this. You know, the moms started Mothers Against Canada, they've they've um really were the impetus for Terrence and Philip getting arrested. I think there's talk that Terrence and Philip are gonna become executed and stuff, so the children are trying to figure out, you know, what can we do. And they um this is another song that's a bit of a throwback to an earlier song uh that was, I think, done in the spirit of Christmas um short before the show was actually picked up.
SPEAKER_01So we often mock you for writing too so many notes. But this time I'm really appreciative of it because I watched the movie, I made a couple of points earlier, and now I've got no notes. So I'm glad you remember how everything works.
unknownI told you my mom wouldn't listen.
SPEAKER_03Well then we're just gonna have to save Terrans and Philip ourselves. What? Think about it, you guys. What would Brian Boitano do?
SPEAKER_09Figure out a way to rescue it. Which is such a weird thing. So, for people who don't know, Brian Boitano's a figure skater.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I didn't know who he was.
SPEAKER_09He's an American figure skater. Right. The weirdest the weirdest thing ever. Like it's it does it's so out of place.
SPEAKER_01Is this a callback to uh another episode with a big boitano do if he was here right now?
SPEAKER_09It was a callback to the spirit of Christmas, which was one of the shorts um with Christmas, uh, with Mr. Hanky the Christmas poop.
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_09And for some reason, Brian Boitano, um, I think was brought in to have a discussion between Jesus and Satan in the spirit of Christmas. Right. Because why wouldn't you bring an American figure skater in to discuss that stuff?
SPEAKER_03That's what Brian Boitano did. I want this feature about a free.
SPEAKER_09And he actually uh did a figure skating routine to this song after it came out, which I thought was pretty funny. It had to be centered down a little bit, but I that's pretty funny.
SPEAKER_04Someone say my name?
unknownWho are you?
SPEAKER_04I'm Brian Denehy.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_01I love this bitch.
SPEAKER_03Brian Dennis, get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_01Oh Did you guys Brian Dinahy? Nope. Sorry, random.
SPEAKER_09Really uplifting songs. I don't know. Like the actual music, right? I have no idea why he became the subject of the song. So yeah, they uh they decide they're gonna they're gonna find a way to try and help Terrence and Philip. Um now there's another subplot that's been happening in the movie where Kenny has gone to hell um and he starts to see what's happening in hell between Satan and Saddam Hussein.
SPEAKER_01Which is interesting because early in the movie, uh in the background, there's a news article that says Saddam Hussein's been killed or something. They've got him or whatever.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And actually this time on my repeat watch, I remember thinking, oh, like why would they put that there? Um in 1999 he was very much alive. Um why would they put that in the movie? And I'd forgotten that he was gonna make an appearance at this point. And he's basically in a relationship with Satan.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_01In an abusive relationship with Satan.
SPEAKER_09Yes, yeah, so so he um he cosied up to Satan, um, their their gay lovers, and he has started to abuse Satan a little bit. And uh a fair bit, a fair bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And so Sat Satan is not the uh scary, powerful, domineering figure you'd expect him to be.
SPEAKER_09No, that's Saddam in this situation. Right. Yeah. He's uh he's quite a bit more introspective. Um he's quite a thoughtful character. Yeah. Most of the characters throughout the whole movie, they're just attacking something else, something that they don't like. I think he's the only character in the whole movie that actually like kind of self-reflects and tries to like think about how he can make situations better for himself, which is I think kind of hilarious that it's Satan.
SPEAKER_01And he's saying to Satan, you know, you only want me for my body. Yeah, you know. Remember when we used to sit up for hours and talk? Yeah. So with that context, you're making me play the song. I I actually really don't like the song, but because you want me to, here it is.
SPEAKER_09Well, I think this is this is the big ballad. You know, every musical's got that emotional, heartfelt, introspective, sad song. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's usually when I go for a piss.
SPEAKER_09It's a parody of Part of Your World by The Little Mermaid. Oh, is it? I don't think I ever saw that maybe.
SPEAKER_07Because it's here I'm supposed to.
SPEAKER_09Oh, and I think also out there by Hunchback. Oh, in the Hunchback Notre Down. Yeah.
SPEAKER_12Up there, there's so much room where babies burn flowers bloom.
SPEAKER_09Everyone This is also the only song in the movie without swearing. Which I also think is funny that they made Satan the only character who doesn't swear.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER_07They say I don't belong. I must stay below alone. Because of my listen to the harmonies.
SPEAKER_01How can you not like this one? Yeah, the harmonies are lovely.
SPEAKER_07Is there a reasonable?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I don't know why I don't like it. I don't evil good songs. I'm not really a fan of parodies, to be honest. I think. I think I'm realizing in this moment. Like the songs on the soundtrack that I really like. I mean, they're still parodies, probably.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But they feel like they're just funny songs.
SPEAKER_09Just kind of good lyrics. Like that was a great lyric.
SPEAKER_01What was it?
SPEAKER_09Um without evil there's no good, so it must be good to be a little evil sometimes. And then we got a guest voice coming in. That is Michael McDonald. Singing behind note. Yep. The uh the Yacht Rock In Session King of the 80s. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, we've had two uh uh past episode appearances now with James Hetfield as well. Yeah, hilarious.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so that's up there. I see, I love that song. I feel like that's that's the sort of emotional lift um song, which I feel like every musical has. They just gave it to Satan for some reason.
SPEAKER_01So La Resistance.
SPEAKER_09Now we're back uh back we're back up there, and the um the American military is doing a USO show. Um they're they're trying to drum up um you know support for the war, and the kids are are trying to come up with a defense. So they're trying to develop the resistance.
SPEAKER_01Being a music podcast, we're not talking about the music very much. Um but what I wouldn't encourage people to do is to really, really listen to the instrumentation, the arrangements, the way that each of these songs really tap into the emotion uh uh that they're trying to convey, even though this is all done in a funny kind of parody way. Um but it's really clever in the way it's played. I mean, these are some serious players whoever played on it, um, it would have been obviously a a very established orchestra. Yeah. Um but listen to how punchy it is and how I mean it's it's great. I mean, if you took the funny lyrics and stuff off the top of it, and didn't tell someone it came from this movie, it's kind of serious writing.
SPEAKER_09You could very easily just swap out the lyrics, flop out the context, and turn it into a very serious musical.
SPEAKER_01Some of them are a bit cheesy. Some of the writing is a bit cheesy, but it's intentional, obviously. Yeah, it's it's preferred a cheesy song, right? But the fact that it's intentional and it's written the way it is, is actually more clever.
SPEAKER_11The fate of a nation in your hand. And blessed be the children we who fight with all our bravery till only the right. You see the distant flames, they bellow in the night. You fight in all our names for what we know.
SPEAKER_09This has got a bit of a vibe of like, you know, Le Miz, like, do you hear the people sing? Literally just about to say that.
SPEAKER_01I'm literally just about to refer to Le Miz.
SPEAKER_09I think a lot of the songs were inspired. Yeah. Like the the the cadence of the songs, and um there's a South Park like fandom website, and it actually will say like the comparable Le Miz song is so-and-so. Yeah, they very much did that intentionally.
SPEAKER_01But the callback to blame Canada, yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it's a full medley.
SPEAKER_01I've seen Ley Miz stage production quite a few times, actually.
SPEAKER_09I've never seen it.
SPEAKER_01It's so good, but you know what? Put me off it? The movie. Oh, really? I haven't seen the movie. Since I saw the movie, I I've been having a break. But it's great. The stage play is amazing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09But I mean, just listen how the music's brought in all those other songs, right? For this medley. So he starts to notice the other people singing and he starts singing louder.
SPEAKER_01It's so well arranged. Yeah, it is. And that idea about the sort of almost the crystal ball nature of it, how back then it was simply just a stupid joke that Canada and the US could actually be at odds with each other, and how that's alarmingly becoming true. And there are so many things in movies from my childhood that are starting to come true. I mean, I was a big fan of Night Rider, and and Night Rider had the AI talking car in it, and you know, now we're talking to AI and all these things. And scenes, like for instance, in Back to the Future 2, where Michael J. Fox's character gets fired via a video call. Do you remember that scene?
SPEAKER_09I don't, but I haven't seen that in ages.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right. Yeah, his boss comes on the screen and shouts at him and fires him, and then all these messages come through. And video calls were something that we were all super excited about. And then the weird thing was is when they showed up as an option, a lot of people didn't like the idea.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then, of course. COVID came along and um kind of reset that a little bit. I think some people still don't like the idea, but it now became the new norm. Do you wanna are you wondering why I'm going on about this? Nope. Oh, well is that because you know I'm about to read this?
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_01It was a good setup. I didn't like I did like where you're going. I almost had a smooth transition. I thought, fuck it, I'm just gonna ruin it.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I was gonna let you keep going. You were killing it.
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SPEAKER_09Nice work.
SPEAKER_01Now give us a smooth transition out of it. Bring it I bring it back. Bring it back. I got nothing.
SPEAKER_09I got nothing.
SPEAKER_01What's the next song? The next song is uh Saddam's I Can Change.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so everything's kicking off um up on Earth, you know, the the war is actually starting to to get a bit hotter. Um and there's some prophecy um that if the blood of of an innocent gets spilled over this war or something, Satan Satan and Saddam are gonna are gonna go back up and and um you know the minions of hell are gonna take over.
SPEAKER_01Now, how does it get pinpointed to Terence and Phillips? Why is it their blood? I can't remember. No.
SPEAKER_09If I'm being honest. It might have been shoehorned in a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Or may maybe it's just because they've effectively been falsely accused. Yeah, because they are they are innocent, right?
SPEAKER_09Like they they made a comedy movie that was obviously vulgar, and now all of a sudden this whole war has started because um utterly terrifying and grotesque violence is preferable to dirty words.
SPEAKER_01It's so much like now. It's so much like the modern world. Exactly.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so I mean, good uh good parodies obviously don't go out of ch don't go out of style. So um part of that though is Satan is starting to realize that Saddam actually treats him like shit, and you know what, he decides, you know what, you're not actually coming up with me. Well, Kenny gets in a zero, remember?
SPEAKER_01Kenny's like, hey, you shouldn't you shouldn't take this from him.
SPEAKER_09That's right. Kenny, Kenny is uh the counts the relationship counselor between Satan and Saddam.
SPEAKER_01Of course he is. Of course he is. Why not?
SPEAKER_09So uh he told he tells Saddam he's not gonna go up.
SPEAKER_12You treat me like shit, Saddam. I'm leaving you. I'm going up to Earth to rule alone.
SPEAKER_13No! No, you can't do that.
SPEAKER_12I'm sorry, but I have to be strong.
SPEAKER_13Satan, please, give me another chance. I have to go to Earth.
SPEAKER_12You don't even have respect for me.
SPEAKER_01Do you think Saddam needs any of the swords?
SPEAKER_09I have no idea. It's highly likely, right? Probably. But it's not. Like, why wouldn't you if he's not? Yeah. I'm sure it got back to him.
SPEAKER_13I can learn the key by promise to side.
SPEAKER_01Another question on another totally unrelated subject. Is it a normal thing in Canada to pull people's guy? Hey guy.
SPEAKER_09Honestly, I'm not sure. It's one of those I feel like it might be, but because of South Park, like it is one of those chicken and egg situations. I'm not sure if we said it that much beforehand. Right. If we didn't, we definitely do a little bit afterwards. You know the whole I'm not your buddy guy, I'm not your I'm not your friend buddy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if that that was the thing beforehand.
SPEAKER_12What if you remain a standing little butt hole?
SPEAKER_09I definitely say buddy quite a bit, but it it's often in like a a little bit of like a derogatory like if you're playing mockers, I'm like, okay, buddy, you know. Alright. Yeah, he's doing a little breakdance right now.
SPEAKER_01Just the arrogance of you like this, don't you?
SPEAKER_09Kind of has a bit of like uh Prince Ali vibes from Aladdin. Oh, that's a great so you know they he convinces okay, Saddam can actually come up, you know. He he he won him back over with his sexy little dance, as I can change lies.
SPEAKER_01I love the idea that he's so irresistible. Yeah. It's like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_09Fine. You won me over again. So the uh the resistance is kicking off, the war is starting, um, we're at a USO show, and uh Big Gay Al is is getting all of the troops um amped up, and the kids ask him to sing a song so that they can they can distract.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because someone's not at their mark yet, right? Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah. They have uh part of the resistance there there's a young one of the French kids, he's called the Mole, and he was supposed to he's supposed to get under uh an electric fence or something, um, and there's guard dogs or something along those lines, but they get they didn't get their timing was off, so they had to distract um all the troops.
SPEAKER_01So they they can't prolong it because he's not quite there.
SPEAKER_09Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, I do have a little song I wrote about the war, but oh but we haven't rehearsed. Sing it! Sing it! Oh I can't. If you insist, I'll sing my song. I believe it goes a little bit like this. Bombs are flying, people are dying, children are crying, politicians are lying too. Cancer is killing, Texacos is billing. The whole world's gone to hell, but how are you? I'm super, thanks for asking. All things considered, I couldn't be better, I'm a thing. I'm feeling super, now nothing fucks me. Everything is super winner. Don't you think I look cute in this happen? I'm so sorry, Mr. Cribble, but I just can't feel too bad for you right now. Because I'm feeling so insanely super That even the fact that you can't walk can bring me down. Everything is super weird.
unknownDon't you think I look cute in this little bit?
SPEAKER_09I love when they break the line. They do like a couple of weekends.
SPEAKER_01They do the misdirection. Yeah, think they're gonna say one thing in the middle.
SPEAKER_09They use that a lot actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They love leading you leading you one direction and pull it elastic.
SPEAKER_01I think it's also a common trait in um just judgment. Yeah, definitely. Because it's funny.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you notice on that one he had a dick out too? No. Yeah.
SPEAKER_09That's hilarious. No, I didn't. Oh yeah, I'll have to go. I can't believe I missed that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I thought you would have zoomed in on it.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that's funny. So yeah, they um the unfortunately I can't remember exactly how it happened, but they didn't they didn't get whatever they were trying to do, um, they didn't get their timing right, and the mole gets attacked um by the dogs.
SPEAKER_01I think Yeah, because Cartman was supposed to turn off the thing.
SPEAKER_09Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and he and he didn't because he got scared away by Kenny's ghost.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, that's right. And Kenny was telling them that, hey, you can't let you know, you can't let the blood of Terrence or Philip be spilled, otherwise Satan's gonna come. And they said, Well, that's gonna happen anyways. Um actually no, I think they did uh so they convince the parents not to kill them, or they convince the um the Americans not to do it, because the boys kind of stand in front right before Terence and Philip are gonna be shot. And then um Kyle's mom, you know, kinda has her last minute uh villain arc and she steals the gun from somebody else and and shoots them, both Terrence and Philip.
SPEAKER_01In the head.
SPEAKER_09Yep. And uh Satan and Saddam um come up through a portal and the ground. Um The blood hits the soil. The blood hits the soil.
SPEAKER_01It opens the gates of hell.
SPEAKER_09Yep, all the demons start coming out, and at the same time, Cartman realizes that his V-chip is starting to go a bit haywire. Because he got electrocuted, I think, when he was trying when they were trying to do the electrocution, he tries to stop it. He starts to get electrocuted, and his V-chip starts going haywire, and he realizes that every time he swears, um, people around him start to get shocked or zapped.
SPEAKER_01He can fire a bolt of electricity. Yeah. So now the very thing that kicked off the whole problem in the movie is the weapon that's gonna save the day. Exactly. Yeah, the swearing, which brilliant writing. So clever.
SPEAKER_09Like for toilet humor, it is so well written. So uh Saddam comes out and and um he starts swearing at him like crazy and starts zapping Saddam and ends up um killing Saddam with his swear words and uh sends him back to hell, and then Satan realizes you know what, actually it's it's okay up here. We're gonna we're gonna leave all these people and we have um the finale of the song, which is the Mountain Town um reprise. A reprise? How do you say that? Reprise? Did you say reprise? Yep.
SPEAKER_03Goodbye, you guys.
SPEAKER_09Why do you say reprise? I don't know. I just realized I don't think I've ever said it out loud. So that's the demons and Kenny going back into hell.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's right. Kenny sacrifices himself, isn't he? Kenny sacrifices himself.
unknownWe were all dying and now we're fine. That's super.
SPEAKER_13What the f going on? You see, Mom, after all that, it was Cartman's filthy f mouth that saved us all.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you got a sensored version of this. Didn't realize that.
SPEAKER_13But Wendy, what about Gregory? Stan, I never really cared for Gregory. You didn't? No, dude. Gregory came right in the ear.
unknownYay!
SPEAKER_01So weird without the swearing down. I found that whole subplot with weird windy, annoying. Yeah. Didn't really help the story anything.
SPEAKER_09No, I agree.
SPEAKER_03So now our little eyes are now complete.
unknownCause terrorists are sweet.
SPEAKER_09Call back to the earlier setting.
SPEAKER_08Lyrics in the back.
SPEAKER_01That's a good point, because there wouldn't have been any lyrics, and I wonder if the people performing on it in the orchestra had any idea what it was.
SPEAKER_08Uh yeah. I'd be interested in.
SPEAKER_09Yeah. Well, surely they would have known. You think they would have known? Probably, but maybe.
SPEAKER_01Maybe they just got the sheet music and Yeah, I know a lot of those orchestras around the world, they just turn up to work and there's the sheet music for the day. This is what you're playing today. This is what we're playing, and they do some run throughs and work a few things out and then they go, you know?
SPEAKER_09How funny would that be if you didn't know and then you didn't and then you heard it a few months later, like, hey.
SPEAKER_01Maybe some of them never knew they played on it.
SPEAKER_09That'd be hilarious.
SPEAKER_01It's unlikely. I'm sure they would have known. Yeah, it must have been called the South Park soundtrack or something. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Also because it would have been Well, I was gonna say it would have been an exciting thing to know. So they must have been talking about it. But then again, two very serious classical musicians, would they even know what South Park was?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, who knows?
SPEAKER_01Maybe they maybe it was right across the top. South Park, you know, longer uncut, whatever it's called. And they're like, I don't know what that is. The same way I don't know all the soundtrack references you made to Disney films from that decade.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So how does it feel to be part of a very serious journalistic podcast?
SPEAKER_09Well, I mean, yeah, obviously it's you know it's a bit of a joke, the the subject um and the movie and the show in general, but like I say, there's you know some really good messaging there that you know like the swearing is good, essentially. That's what I got from it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's it's interesting though that some things can really only be effectively addressed through comedy. Yeah when you point out the absurdity of an argument um in that way. And I guess comedy takes the edge off it so it's not as you know, screw you, no, screw you. You know, it's it's actually like sort of all laughing together.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, we're both, you know, we're we're coming together and laughing at how ridiculous the situation is. Yeah. Poking poking fun at at the severity of um, well, some of the censorship and stuff like that, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01We finished the episode by talking about what we've learned uh and what our conclusion is. Well, I think we kind of just touched on our conclusion. Did you learn anything?
SPEAKER_09Um I definitely learned a new appreciation for the actual artistry of it. You know, it was one of those things that, yeah, it was funny and and you know, I'm a South Park fan, so I've always always thought that the jokes were good and and always had a uh deep respect, I think, for how they're able to to parody some pretty heavy topics and heavy subjects and do it in a way that doesn't alienate people. Um like that was a whole movie that was ripping on swearing in Canadians, and as a Canadian, I freaking loved it, you know. Like it's it's it takes uh a pretty high comedic level to be able to make fun of somebody and still have those people think it's hilarious as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Or also you have to have a sense of humor. What do you do? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. We could we could learn from that. Some of us. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's good.
SPEAKER_08I'm trying to think if I'm trying to figure out the team, Song.
SPEAKER_01Is that right? No, I don't think so. Uh something sort of self-buggy. Yeah. What was that? C and G? If you're not going to be able to do that, you can't do it.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I don't have no idea what we're doing there. Go with that.
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