Mastering Baccarat: Strategies, Bankroll Management, and Online Gambling Tips

Ready to up your Baccarat game? Join us as we break down the complexities of Baccarat, teaching you how to analyze a shoe like a pro. We'll guide you through counting the number of players and bankers, determining opposites, repeats, TBLs, and OTBLs, and identifying if a shoe is worth playing. We guarantee you'll walk away with new insights and strategies.

But that's not all – we dive into Baccarat betting strategies to help you spot disparities and make the right bets. Learn about the SAP strategy and how it can guide your decision-making process. We also tackle bankroll management, exploring how many units to take to a table, breaking your bankroll into smaller increments, and setting stop win/loss goals.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:10

Okay, can everybody see this shoe? Can everybody see it? Okay, not significant. Is that a test BI number? What is the key Doesn't matter 12.

Speaker 1: 0:21

12. There, oh, it's up. Yeah, it's hard for me to see at this angle. Okay, so this is again. This is going to be something you need to know, so please pay attention. The longer you play, the more you need to know this. So what happens? You walk into the casino and this shoe's half over right, and you look at it and you say, uh, you know, i don't know. Do I wait for the next shoe? Do I want to sit down? Is there something here that I could maybe take advantage of? if I only knew how to figure it out real quick. Anybody ever had that thought Okay, good, okay, then it registers. Okay, obviously, you're going to have total hands played up here. This isn't an SBI, but it's going to be on the tote board, right? Okay, you are going to have the uh, how many players and how many bankers? Player results 27,. Banker results 27. Okay, it's going to be on the tote board Any casino, okay, so one tool you have is that there's been 27 players and 27 bankers, so it's kind of a shoe going like this, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:34

Another thing that you want to know, though, is how many opposites have there been and how many repeats? You know what? the easy way to figure that out is Okay, here's the trick. All you have to do is count. See that red dot right there. Does everybody see the red dot? The very first one, very first hand. Okay, you can't have an opposite on the first hand. No matter, you know, no matter what it's you know, okay. So here's the opposites 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 30. There have been 30 opposites, okay, okay. So how many repeats, without me counting the repeats? What's that? Five, five repeats. How many repeats have there been in the shoe? 24. Okay, and how did you calculate?

Speaker 4: 2:40

that grade? Well, it's almost 54 hands Okay, and you said there were 30 repeats of the differences.

Speaker 1: 2:46

I had 30 opposites, 30 repeats, okay. 30 opposites, 30 opposites. It's been 54 hands. How many repeats? 20 repeats, okay. 24. No, no 23.

Speaker 5: 3:00

23.

Speaker 1: 3:01

You can't have this, that's right 23. You can't have, you know. You see what I mean. I'm not, you know, pointing you out, i'm just saying that you walk into a shoe and you want to figure out. Okay, you know, i kind of like to play this shoe, but maybe I should get a little bit more information. So you already know that the disparity of opposites and repeats is something you can, you know. Take a look at Right. Okay, there you go. Okay, you've got opposites and repeats. Now How do you know how many TBLs and OTBLs?

Speaker 5: 3:41

How the door rolls and TBL will be, not the two doors.

Speaker 1: 3:49

Yeah, well, what you kind of have to do is, visually, you're not going to stand up to the tow board with a ruler, right, but envision that you're doing this right here. okay, you're putting a line under the twos. Okay, the OTBL. I'll use OTBL. okay, the OTBLs are going to be. you know what they look like. I'm going to try to stand back here. okay, you know that we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, no six, i'm sorry. six, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four. So there's 24 OTBLs. I hope I got that right. Let's assume there is. Okay, i hope I got that right.

Speaker 1: 5:05

Okay, so 24 OTBL. We know the 30 opposites and how many repeats Twenty-three, okay, otbl. What did I say? The number was Twenty-four, okay, so if there's 24 OTBLs, how do you know how many TBLs there are? I want you to just think this, matt. it's like a puzzle. Take it through for a second. It's kind of a trick question. Twenty-eight, What's that? Twenty-eight, twenty-eight, okay, and how did you calculate? Edwin says twenty-eight. How did you calculate that? Fifty-four minus twenty-four gets thirty. Thirty minus two.

Speaker 1: 5:51

He's right Why You can't have an OTBL or a TBL until the third hand of the shoe, so the first two don't count. You see what I mean In this case, this and this don't count. So he's absolutely right. Fifty-four minus the twenty-four, okay, okay, and then the thirty, right, and then you have to subtract two because the first two hands don't count. Armed with that information and it takes a little while to get used to how to do it, you know what I mean And kind of stand there and look at the top board for a second and you know, just jot it down or whatever.

Speaker 1: 6:35

Then you can make a decision. Is this the kind of shoe But you're obviously going to be wanting to look at all this stuff anyways But statistically, mathematically, disparity-wise, you can calculate and decide whether this is going to be one of those one-third up here shoes, a one-third in the middle shoe, or one-third that you just don't want to deal with, okay, so it's just another little skill that, if you and you're going to, it's going to happen a lot to you. Go ahead, greg. In my count there's twenty-six.

Speaker 4: 7:06

TBLs, ots, and that's because there's two OTs for every second liner. If it doesn't start out with a two and with a two And as I said, i'm up there, you know. Yeah, i'm just saying see, if you look at it, if it starts out with well for every second liner you end up with two OTs. Okay, so there's thirteen, oh, there's two thirteen second liners. So you say okay, i've got twenty-six OTs.

Speaker 1: 7:40

Okay, okay, except that's not a true statement. What's that? That's not a true statement, though? Let me show you.

Speaker 4: 7:48

Yeah, if it does not start out with two.

Speaker 1: 7:52

Here's the thing You say there's thirteen second liners. Is that what you said? Yeah, okay, so you counted this as a second liner, right there. Yeah, okay, okay, was that an OTs? Biel?

Speaker 4: 8:10

No.

Speaker 1: 8:10

No, okay.

Speaker 4: 8:14

But the second banker was an OTs and the first and the next player is an OTs. Ots Okay.

Speaker 1: 8:19

So there's two for the second liner. Okay. So you're saying okay, so that's good. Second liners times two, times two. You have to get started with two, okay, okay. So then you still have to So the two, or into the two you just try, and one You still have to calculate, though, is what you're saying?

Speaker 4: 8:37

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:39

But it makes it easier. Okay, Now you'll buy that you know Any other questions on that concept of walking into a shoe and figuring out how you're going to play, What else? Is there anything else here that looks like it might be interesting to play?

Speaker 5: 8:59

So when you do that, you're looking for the greatest disparity.

Speaker 1: 9:01

When you come up there, yeah, either, a disparity that really stands out, you know, because we know it's not a banker player. It's 27 to 27. Right, it's not even gone. Bank player, bank player, bank player. You know, it's been kind of intermittent, you know what I mean. So, yeah, you're looking for the disparity that might give you the clue that it would be worth to sit down and play this game. Not every hand, you know. Let it run a few While you're counting. It's going to move a couple anyways. You know what I mean. A couple of hands will go by while you're counting, but the idea is that you don't have to wait. if it's a decent shoe, if it's in that profile where you think you can win. You know what I mean. As opposed to man, i just don't like the way this one looks, you know.

Speaker 3: 9:49

So if you're walking through a hand, do you play the biggest disparity, or is that something else you consider?

Speaker 1: 9:56

It's something I would consider. Let's say, in the case we had those two real close disparities, the Opsa Repeat and the OTBL TBL. They were both very close. What I'd see is, i'd say, based on this last one, right now, what would the high disparity on the OTBL, tbl, tbl, the opposite, two back, you know it would say, in order for this one two back is one two, okay. That says say bet bank, okay. And then the Opsa Repeat okay, let's say what was higher opposites Opposites was higher, i believe, And it was. You know, i have five or six, i think. This is this says as a bank opposite here is going to say bet player, okay. So, yeah, you want to take into consideration. You know what does that mean? Don't bet, don't bet Unless you see something that just you know again in the, you know the range of the 10 best bets, or something that you know what I mean. It says you know what. I'm going to take a chance on this one, you know. So, okay, that's walking into the middle of a shoe. Okay, let's go ahead.

Speaker 1: 11:11

We've talked about bias. Okay, how about most common, recent, most common and least common Making decisions, trying to decide what you're going to bet on or what's going to happen next. That's most common. This is recent most common And this is least common And that's kind of the. It's kind of the SAP scenario. Sap again there's. There's. For years there was a lot of people that used SAP, sap to help guide them. You know, play, okay, this is kind of another version of it. So the least common is not, it's not just okay.

Speaker 1: 12:04

I'm trying to think of the way to explain this. Let's say that the shoe is really low in ones, one in a row. You look up and you say, man, if you're supposed to have 18 in a shoe, 18 events of one in a row, and you only got three, okay, you can spot that least common is going to be. You know it's really lagging. So if the next hand, the, the let's say you have a one, you certainly would want to bet the fact that there's only been three times. It stayed one correct. So you'd want to go at least to bet. If you want to bet, you'd bet that it would go to two. Right, the most common is like for the whole shoe. What's the most common in the whole shoe? The recent most common is what I just demonstrated on, like the 5D, where you got to look between the lines You got to. You got to look, you know what's happened in the last 10, 15 hands and give that maybe more weight than what's happened for the whole shoe.

Speaker 1: 13:08

Okay, again, this is just a little thing that you know you can use. You know, put it in your toolbox. You know it's written about on the form. You know you can think about it and see if it's something you want to use. You may not want to use it. You may not want to use it.

Speaker 5: 13:21

Okay, can you talk about most common, recent, most common and least common?

Speaker 1: 13:25

Yes.

Speaker 3: 13:26

Are you looking at the shoe over all, or do you also look at the each?

Speaker 1: 13:31

side individually. Recent most common would be looking at it. You know what's happening right now. Okay, most common would be the whole shoe. Least common would be the whole shoe too. You could also look at recent least common. But if it's least common, you know, i'm going to promise to say if you now have a one, don't bet, don't try to bet against that trend. It's just like betting against a run. You know It's not, it's not a have to make bet, by the way, it's not, it's not like you have to make the bet. It's just don't buck the trend, don't buck, don't try to guess. You know, don't go, don't go. Well, just, there's only been three ones. You know, man, this might be my opportunity, you know. And hey, it might go to one again. You know there's no. This is no. Again, there's no. Ah, nerve-on in any of this. Okay, beginner, play the bias. Play the bias, kevin.

Speaker 2: 14:29

Yes, just to clarify, i think uh坄s is trying to ask you to look at that individually, with later attack as opposed to….

Speaker 1: 14:41

Oh, I don't know. Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 5: 14:43

for Yeah, you do, oh, okay, like here you're looking at just the whole shoe in general, versus like when I play I look at the player side and the individual side.

Speaker 1: 14:54

I didn't understand your question. You certainly could do that wondered if you wanted to look at that. You certainly could, and it would be a more accurate assessment. You know what I'm saying. If you wanted to look anytime you wanted to do player versus banker, it's going to be more accurate than just this Right. I didn't understand what you were asking When you said looking at the short. Okay, anything else on that? Okay, we talked about what is a session. Okay, let's talk about bankroll. I mean, these are questions that you're going to have. Does anybody worry about their bankroll? Does anybody have any questions about bankroll? How many units you should? Janice, i know you were concerned about how many units you should use or take to the table. Did you kind of remember that conversation we had? Maybe you could explain what you were concerned about? I think it was like how many units do you need right to play?

Speaker 6: 16:04

Right, because, as I said, i've been looking for years and getting different information. So I've gotten advice to. It should be 100 times. Whatever your base unit is is what your bankroll should be. And then I've had someone say that it should be that figure times four or five should be your total bankroll.

Speaker 1: 16:29

So 100 times Your base unit. Let's say your base unit then is 25, right, right? So you're going to say, for this particular session or shoe or whatever, you're going to want to have $2,500. Right. Okay, okay. And then you say your, lifetime bankroll LB should be somewhere between 10,000 and 12,500. Correct Four to five times 10,000 to 12,500. Right. Right. Okay, anybody else have an opinion?

Speaker 4: 17:11

Yeah, i think you're playing plus one. That is right.

Speaker 1: 17:14

What's that?

Speaker 4: 17:15

But I mean it'll all depend as you build your hit rate.

Speaker 1: 17:19

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 17:20

I have no wrong walking You've seen them with 500 bucks Right And playing with $5 bets. Yes, You literally go down to 10,000, you know, to 10 units. But oh sorry, It will really depend on your hit rate how you feel about your game. Because if I was playing $100 bets, it means I'd have to have a $10,000 bankroll to get to come into the casino. Oh, that's jump changing Great. Come on, I'd have to have $100,000 or more sitting in a bank. I find that much probably wouldn't be playing.

Speaker 1: 17:56

Who else has a comment about bankroll?

Speaker 5: 17:58

Well, my comment on it is I've played several different ways using a bankroll. I played Martin Gale, which I thought was the greatest thing for one time, because I got up to $75,000 until I ran into two busts in a row at seven progressions playing $100. And so you can see what that does to you. But in my opinion, I mean I play $100 flat bet, but I'll come in with the $5,000 bankroll.

Speaker 1: 18:40

So you're saying 50 times So.

Speaker 5: 18:42

I do 50 times. Sometimes I'll do 30 times, Like this trip out. I only brought $3,000 with me.

Speaker 1: 18:48

Okay, can you leave it on the table when you're done there?

Speaker 5: 18:52

So but and I may start out only with the $50 bet, but I think the bank, your bankroll, is really going to be determined by your ability to play the game.

Speaker 1: 19:06

Yes.

Speaker 5: 19:07

It's going to be determined by your confidence level and your ability to understand what is going on at the table and what you're and how your playbook is playing. And if your playbook is playing good and you know that you're not going to beat that table and you lose two in a row or three in a row, get the hell up and go. You know, because you know you're not going to beat that table. But there's tables where you know that hey, it's going my way, my $100 bet is going, i'll do my three or five wins for me. If I get three wins in a shoe, i'm good, i'm done, get up and walk away. But it's to me. I think your bankroll is more determined on your ability to play the game and your confidence in how you're playing the game.

Speaker 1: 20:01

Yeah to Janice's point. You're going to get a lot of differences of opinion. Nobody is right or wrong. We used to use either 10 or 12 units, maybe 20. Then I went up to 20.

Speaker 7: 20:13

So yes, A lot of folks the players that I've come over to the years is most people think in terms of. you know, most players don't think in terms of lifetime bankroll Like they don't think OK when the lottery Yeah, it goes up.

Speaker 7: 20:29

They don't think in terms of the two. I mean just commenting on bankroll just a little bit, from what my experience has been is people who join the club, you know they get an extra 500 bucks. They're going to the casino and they're going to try to win a couple bucks with that, but they're never happy with 100 bucks going to 500. That's the first problem. But they have 500 bucks to where I'm going to go to the casino and I want to win. Can you teach me how to win a million dollars? Can't do it, but that's usually how folks think. They don't think like a lot of those real serious players of. But most people think in session bankrolls. You know, like I got 1,000 bucks, i'm getting my income tax check back, you know I'm going to go to the casino.

Speaker 7: 21:08

They don't think beyond the session. I found That's the kind of player that we usually deal with And then that's OK. I guess You know that's not a bad way to play. But you know, i think the council that we offer them is well, look, if you're going to go for 1,000 bucks, you know what I always say is you know they always start off betting $10.

Speaker 1: 21:31

And then before you know it, they're betting $500, or $100.

Speaker 7: 21:36

You just bet 10% of your bankroll man.

Speaker 2: 21:38

You're going to get tapped out.

Speaker 7: 21:40

So that's the first thing to do. And it just made me think of something about the plus one thing that you're asking about. You know it's like the best way to do plus one is, if you enjoyed playing that way and you want to go in and play a lot of hands, you want to get a lot of action is just play it for a shoe. And I did it online. I wanted to put it in the presentation, but I'll put it in the kind of add-ons. I played 10 shoes plus ones for $1 one day And you could play it for $1 in Pennsylvania, because you can actually bet $1 in Pennsylvania online. Live Bakara And I played 10 shoes I mean like 250 bucks in 10 shoes And at the end of the shoe I just stopped. Michael come in. When he stops in today He'll tell you he's going to play it. You know, take the last shoe and come over here and play it again and again and again.

Speaker 7: 22:25

I think the best way to play something like that with bank roll requirements for session is just stop at the end of the shoe. But my point was is most folks just figure session back? Well, i got $500. We'll just divide it by something and try to keep your bet. Now, that's the hardest thing for folks to do. Right right, you're bettin', you're walking in with $500. You probably can't pay $50 a hand. It's only 10 chips, man, you know.

Speaker 5: 22:50

The other thing you have to do is is that most guys go in and well, aside from us, i mean, most people are going to go to the casino and they're going to go there and play fun. If I lose, i lose. If I win, i win. We're looking at this as a side business, as a side hustle, and so you have to look at, when you're looking at it, of your bank roll, how much are you willing to invest in this business that you're venturing in?

Speaker 1: 23:27

Right.

Speaker 5: 23:28

And so if you look at it that way and keep your mindset that way, you're going to make a lot. Your mistakes are going to be a lot less because you're going to be more concentrated on. I got to get this right. So you have to have a different mindset to begin with to play the way that we want to play, And if you don't look at it that way, then you're not going to manage your bank roll correctly. Right, Great?

Speaker 4: 24:03

Yeah, i don't know if you remember Jimmy Bacchra. He and I got into a conversation about bank roll And he had 100-unit bank roll effort. So he was playing quarters And I said well, what's your hit rate? And he said, oh, somewhere around 55, sometimes 60. And I said so you're considering having a 100-unit bank roll because you want to be able to lose 100 hands in a row before your bank broke. I said do you really think you're going to lose 100 hands in a row? And he said no. I said well then, why don't you cut down how many units you have to have in bed, bed or beds? So he actually bumped it up to $50 beds. Then he had 50 units. They ended up bumping it up to 100. And he kept the same hit rate and he did better.

Speaker 4: 24:46

It's the thing. Don't get to me. If you have too many units in a bank roll, it's almost like, oh, i can lose 100. I can lose 50 units and be OK. You know that's a loser mentality You need to have. You know I want to win, not I can lose.

Speaker 1: 25:02

Well, here's the way again. Here's the way it works for me And I know I've explained this to a lot of other people both within and outside of the forum. This works really well for me. I'm going to use easy numbers. Easy numbers Let's say, today my bank roll is $2,000. I'm just using the easy numbers.

Speaker 1: 25:22

OK, do I go into the casino and plop that down on the table, because I think I'm going to get some good comps, or maybe they bring me a double instead of a single scotch? You know, i used to. I used to Look at me now. No, what I do and I've heard it third, a third, a third. But what I'd like to do is 500, 500, 500, and 500. Now I'd like you to break it in four. I've heard people talk about it a lot. Break it in three. But here's the thing Unless you really think you're a big shot or you're going to get to, if that $2,000 is sitting on the table and you're not disciplined and you're not watching yourself and you're getting pissed off, or you're getting wasted with alcohol or whatever drugs or whatever, at some point that $2,000 is going to look really good to go all in or to start making Keith mentioned a minute ago.

Speaker 1: 26:34

You know, all of a sudden, you're making a $500 bet, just out of the blue. So if you do this and just put $500 on the table only 500. Keep the other $1,500 in your purse and your wallet, in your back pocket I don't care, you know what I mean And you'll see, this will go to, let's say, 100, all units. It's going to go to 400, and it's going to go back to 500. And then you're going to get down to 400. And then it's going to go, let's say, goes to 300. And then it goes to 200. And it goes back to 300. And let's say you get lucky and, through a series of events, get it up to $750. And you have a goal. You set a goal.

Speaker 1: 27:26

Ok, whatever your goal, will win on $500. Again, it could be $100. It could be $500, if you want to make it. One bet Right Now. So that bankroll that I've divided into four units, the rest of which is in my wallet or in your purse or whatever. Ok, i've had a 50% in this case a 50% increase on my $500. Ok, using this as an example, ok, what I'll do is I will take that money and I'll take $250. Because I won this session. Remember, this is my pocket. I'll take the $250, leave the $500 out and start all over. Start all over.

Speaker 1: 28:18

You're still playing with a quarter of your bankroll. Ok, this will really help with your stop win and stop loss, because there is no magic number for a bankroll. There's no magic number for how many should you lose before you go home? How many would you stop at? We all have a different number And it depends on how we feel that day. It depends on if we just had to pay the real estate taxes, it depends on the new car or whatever. So if you break your bankroll, no matter how many units, it is OK. If you break it into smaller increments and only play with that.

Speaker 1: 28:53

Let's say, instead of this happening, i had gone to zero. Ok, well, first off, i probably shouldn't have done it, but if it's $100 units, that's five units. That's not bad. You're going to live OK. I would be far less likely, though, to dig into the second $500 than if I had the first scenario, because, again, the hope is you'd never have to dig into these.

Speaker 1: 29:20

But if you stop yourself along the way and keep track of where you are for the session, you still have the backup if you really just want to, if you're really willing to lose $2,000 that day, but you don't lose it all at once. You know, i wish I had a bunch of chips here and I'd show you exactly what I mean. You know, instead of stacking it up like this, you got to stack here and you got the rest of that back here or in your purse. Ok, that'll save you in the long run. I'm telling you you're going to save a lot of money because you are going to lose sometimes. And it's like a wake-up call, it's like telling you Jerry made a point earlier. You know, he just realized this shoe, it wasn't working out. Today I'm going home. Casino will be here tomorrow, whatever You know.

Speaker 1: 30:12

So again, if you break it down into smaller increments the same thing in 5D that I did, you know, squiggly line, squiggly line smaller units, smaller increments, the smaller increment you make your decision on the better decision you're probably going to make, as opposed to I'm going to make it on this decision. So, okay, enough on that, any questions? Okay, we talked about it at least. And the key point lifetime who knows? Your financial circumstances change. I'm retired. That gives me a different bankroll thought than something else might.

Speaker 1: 30:59

Okay, stop winning, stop lost. We're touched on it, but I'm going to touch on it again real fast. Okay, stop winning. What you don't want to do is drive it like your car. In other words, you don't want to go as fast as you possibly can drive, right, You don't want to take that, you know you don't want to. You don't want to just try to win, you know. Sure, you can have a goal. Tom could have a goal of I'm going to double my money. But that's a goal, that's an objective. But you probably shouldn't try to get there really fast. You know what I mean. Okay, stop loss is like running out of gas because you're not paying attention to the gas gauge. Okay, so again, the stop when? stop loss?

Speaker 1: 31:45

I think it's a personal matter. I think it depends on the circumstances. I think you're going to have to, you have to be comfortable with it. You know you're going to have to go home at some point. If you lost money. You're going to have to say, you know, analyze why you lost money and then say you know, next time I'm not going to do that, i'm going to do it a little bit different, okay. Okay, we're getting near the end, actually, and then we'll have time for questions and stuff like that. Okay, is there really a difference between table play, stadium play and online play? And the answer is yes. So let's start with online first, because, theoretically, even though we're not supposed to bet outside of the United States, right, i do it in sports betting. I mean, people do it all the time. So I'm not saying you should do it. But to Mookie's point and Greg you want to come up, greg, and tell us a little bit about online betting, or sit there and Do you want to do it from here?

Speaker 1: 32:44

Yeah, it's up to you, i'll move, i'll move.

Speaker 4: 32:47

No, that's all right, you're coming about the bidding off about foreign. I told my son yesterday that Jimmy Bacrow told me how to play another well, the evolution, which has 15 tables at one time. Ah, okay, okay. And he told me about using the VPN, which I was going to bring up later. My son said well, that's illegal. So I looked it up, it's not illegal for us to play there, it's illegal for them to allow us to. Okay, so you know, they're the ones that will get in trouble, not us. It's not. The law isn't aimed at the player, the law is aimed at the supplier of the games, and so I wasn't going to show how to do that, which I will later, but I'll show you how you can, in effect, play those, because the evolution has games as small as 20 cent limits.

Speaker 1: 33:49

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 4: 33:50

They have a ton of tables that are $1. Okay, there's like about 13 of those The $1 minimum and a $50,000 maximum. Okay, so somebody playing a Martin Gale if they had enough bucks they could keep on going on it. So you could actually play plus one, either for 20 cents or for a dollar, and play all day, and you got like 15 tables to choose from.

Speaker 1: 34:16

Is it a casino called the evolution? What's that? Is it a casino?

Speaker 4: 34:21

Yes, it's stakecom S-T-A-K-E. Okay, dot com And stake. You know it's like a wooden stake, tent stake, not a kind of game, okay. Now, the main thing about online playing is that, if you think stadium is fast, hold on, because if you go to my bookie or Bovada, or what is it? just betting, just bet. You've got 10 seconds to make a bet, okay, so you think that is very fast. However, i like it at that, but you only have two tables to worry about looking at, so it's kind of like stadium, but on steroids.

Speaker 4: 35:09

What you have to do, though, you have to get to the point where you can say okay, if player wins this hand, i'm going to bet banker. Okay, you have to know that ahead of time. You can't say, okay, if player won, now what am I going to do? You only have 10 seconds to figure that out, okay, so, since you're not betting every hand, you can do that. You can be keeping track, and finally you say, oh, okay, based on what I'm seeing, if player wins, i need to bet player again.

Speaker 4: 35:38

Maybe it's second liners, you're seeing, or something like that. So you need to be thinking one hand ahead in order to play on a 10 second table. The other thing as far as setting up an account with my bookie is really easy. You can either do it through a BTC I mean a cryptocurrency exchange which like a Gemini or now they've got it where you can even do it with a credit card, if your credit card company will do it. I recommend not doing that because then they have your credit card information, but if you did it, i wouldn't do it more than about a hundred bucks. In fact, i threw a hundred bucks into my bookie. I don't know if you want to bring it up.

Speaker 7: 36:29

If my bookie gets ahold of this and they get mad at me, it's a copyright.

Speaker 4: 36:33

Why would they get mad at you?

Speaker 7: 36:38

It's at the bottom of my bookie and I've gotten into some real bad situations. I can put it up, we just can't record it, that's fine. Yeah, You can record it. We got to chop this out If I put another website up. You know that as well. We got tested a couple of times with music and as soon as you put it up, I don't want to get into trouble putting that up.

Speaker 4: 36:58

Okay, i understand, no problem.

Speaker 7: 37:00

We can put it up.

Speaker 4: 37:01

Right, well, if you.

Speaker 7: 37:04

Okay, okay, so I can put it up. We just won't film it, absolutely Okay.

Speaker 4: 37:07

Yeah. Anyway, if you do create an online account with my bookie, before you fund it, make sure you call them and tell them you want your account blocked from bonuses. You don't want to get bonuses on my bookie. I won't tell you who it was, but they gave him a bonus, okay, was it $20 or $20? It was $120. I bet it on a football game, okay. So, anyway, he had a bonus, but the thing is in order. I'll say it was well.

Speaker 4: 37:44

I got one for $25, is what they said. They sent me for $25. I said mine was supposed to be blocked. Well, in order to be able to use that $25, i had to bet $3,000 on sports betting. Can't even use it in the casino, okay. So I called the guy up. I said hey, you guys just gave me a $25 bonus. I said that's not, wasn't supposed to happen. He said we looked and I can. Oh, no, you're blocked. We tried to give it to you but it wouldn't take it. So be sure you block it from bonuses. Okay, i don't know.

Speaker 4: 38:18

On Movada, which is where I play most of my time iswell, that's the interface. Forit says my bookie. But if you're playing on Movada, or it says my bookie, it'll say Movada, if you're playing on Just Bet, it'll say Just Bet Up. They use the exact same dealers, exact same user interface with it. My bookie lets you bet down to a $2.50 minimum, but then the maximum for that table is always 20 times that, which would be a $50 bet. Then you can go to a $5 and a $100 minimum, and 25 and 500 and so on.

Speaker 7: 38:53

I'm going to bet $100 on player for you. Okay, Sure.

Speaker 4: 38:57

That's why I only put $100 in there, because I knew he might havebe the first time I've seen him bet $100, too.

Speaker 7: 39:05

You can see how fast this is.

Speaker 8: 39:07

Let a shot person in have a player, That would be a good bet Anyway so there's the interface.

Speaker 4: 39:12

I usually turn it off. I don't care about seeing the person so I can get a better view, especiallyi use my iPad on it a lot. But basically, if you count up, as soon as she gets through with the cards you count out and she closes them up, you can count it up. It's right about 10 seconds before she starts dealing again. So that's how much time you have. If you say, okay, now I know who won. Anybody count. Yeah if you were nailed out to make a bet until she closed, the cards come on.

Speaker 7: 39:57

Yeah, now here they come.

Speaker 4: 39:58

Yeah, so it's talking about 10 seconds, about 10 seconds, yeah Anyway. So you better have your skill set down. In other words, you can use it for practice, because you can still paper bet it. You don't have to place a bet, it'll just time out, and then that's where you can kind of get your speed up. So when you do get to stadium you'll be able to play it a lot with less stress.

Speaker 7: 40:20

Put it that way Yeah, there's your good old player right now Yep, Right Well after most common threes there, thank for threes a little bit.

Speaker 4: 40:30

Now, what Jimmy Bajgra told me about was a VPN. you have to VPN outside the United States. Okay, and there's a cyber cyber ghost, cyber ghostcom. It's really expensive. Okay, it was. it was $87 for three years.

Speaker 1: 40:52

And what was it? What's it again?

Speaker 4: 40:54

Right, $87 for three years. Okay, that's like $2 or something a month. Okay, to have the VPN ability.

Speaker 7: 41:04

That's all I got there. Okay, just select where you want to.

Speaker 4: 41:07

And so he just came back from Singapore. So I pick up Singapore And then that way you can bring up the stakecom and it'll say, oh, ok, and boy. I tell you, stakecom is really easy to set up because it doesn't want your address or nothing. All it wants is the email address and your name, what you want your call ID to be and a password. It doesn't ask you anything else And it's. But that's stakecom, it's evolution. Now here's the kicker with it. Your deposit is in Bitcoins, ok, so it'll show your balance. Let's say, like, right now, i think I've got $130 in it. Well, if Bitcoin goes down, so does my balance. If Bitcoin goes up, so does my balance. So the thing you could win money on stake, but if Bitcoin goes down, you may have a net loss. So you really got to be careful about using that. So that is one drawback. But you can bet as little as $0.20 a hand or a dollar a hand.

Speaker 5: 42:17

Any questions? Does the Bitcoin fluctuation affect other?

Speaker 7: 42:26

online casinos like it would. I don't know, this is the only one.

Speaker 4: 42:31

It does not have a cookie or a water.

Speaker 7: 42:35

So, if you had dollars and the Bitcoin goes up and down on other sites, it still stays at that value.

Speaker 4: 42:44

But as far as on the evolution stuff, it's all tied to Bitcoin. So you're like what happened over the last month? Things got Bitcoins going down like 33%. So if you had bought at the high, your account would be worth two thirds of what it was back then, even if you won.

Speaker 8: 43:02

So you were saying that, but the behind us, the game was right. Yeah, you don't need the. Bitcoin bounce in years off of Singapore. That's why that was my question.

Speaker 4: 43:31

I registered in Florida, and Florida is to say that they don't allow New York, new Jersey or Nevada. Now, i think those are the three states that they are not allowed to live in residence of those places. Now, i'm not a resident of that, so I can play here. That's why it's coming out. But if you're a resident of that, then you would have to use something like the Goose or some VPN service to get you to some of yourselves. You could say you could be in Florida.

Speaker 8: 44:04

So, just to follow up, you were saying that Bovada and my bookie are based on the US dollar and not Bitcoin, correct?

Speaker 4: 44:12

Correct. Ok, thanks, And I had no problem getting money out of either one of them. But I got money out of it, My bookie. I decided I just had to go straight to my bank account And I made a request on Saturday and it'd be in my bank on Wednesday. So I thought it was pretty good, that's good. My bookie And it has the lowest limit of $2.50. In Pennsylvania you could bet a dollar.

Speaker 7: 44:41

What's that? In Pennsylvania you can bet a dollar But the VPN thing doesn't work in Pennsylvania because they use I think they triangulate it with your phone And you've got to have location service on your computer and your phone And if I'm down in New Jersey or any place else, and even if I do, a VPN huh.

Speaker 7: 45:02

I'm sorry. online, No, it's pencil. I do it through Poker Stars, but it's the same, for it's the MGM one and Poker Stars. They're all the same. You can see, it's the same place. I guess it's in. I forgot where it is. You can see it's the same dealers and everything. But the nice thing about Pennsylvania you can bet a buck. So yeah, Yeah yeah, absolutely So. It's good stuff. So, mike, he's, he's, he isn't going to come up, come, oh okay.

Speaker 1: 45:35

Okay, no problem. Okay, anything else on online before we move on. So it's available to many of you. I'm not suggesting you should or shouldn't do it. Just Greg had a caveat about don't accept any bonuses, yeah.

Speaker 5: 45:50

I have a question If you're in one of the restricted states, how do you get your money set to a bank that's in a restricted?

Speaker 1: 46:02

state. I don't know, Greg, do you know? I mean well.

Speaker 4: 46:06

Well, I haven't had that situation in a certain country. But you know, i, i, we can try it out. Kevin's, because he's registered as Nevada. Yeah, on my bookie.

Speaker 5: 46:15

Well, i'm talking about getting paid Like if, if I sign up with them.

Speaker 4: 46:21

Well, they weren't quick to take his money, so they're probably paying him? Yeah, isn't it, you know? but I know that in maybe the casino side, that only doesn't allow him to bet. The support of any side Does it allow you to bet there?

Speaker 1: 46:35

I don't use my bookie for that, but I use it. Yeah, i like it.

Speaker 7: 46:40

Yeah, I do too All right.

Speaker 1: 46:41

Okay, let's talk about stadium. Who's got experience with stadium here? Stadium buys, it's called stadium Baccarat. Sometimes they call it Imperial Baccarat. It's been called Dynasty Baccarat, you know. So. It's definitely. It's definitely, you know, one of the changes that's really happening. Over the last couple of years, a lot of casinos have added it. I would anticipate that more will You know what's what's, what's your feeling, mr Rick?

Speaker 8: 47:17

you don't have the pressure of sitting at the table and talking to me about right. A lot of people pay attention to what the other people, what the other people are doing. You don't have that pressure, which can be good or bad, because I would think it's. It feels easier to get loose with your shoving on when nobody's seen it but you pushing your buttons. That's it. Maybe a downside for non-discipline people. The upside is you can watch a couple of shoes at one time two to four shoes, depending on where you're at. I know originally people had concerns about the machines cheating you and not paying you correctly. You've had a situation. I had a situation once where, but it got resolved. It was a pain in the butt but it gets resolved, So I see far less issues of that. So I think it's a positive thing, as long as it's live dealers and you can see what's going on. You do have the RNGs in places.

Speaker 1: 48:19

Yeah, we're talking about that. You only play with the live dealers. So the dealers are. They're standing there, you know, taking the cards out of the shoe. You can go up and watch them do it. You know turn them over. There is a card reader that, as soon as the card comes out, and reads the card. So before the almost before the last card is turned over, you already know the answer. I mean it's you know because of the card reader, but you want to play with live dealer. Anybody else that has experience? Yes, uda, that is correct, that is correct.

Speaker 8: 49:14

That is, in the nation of Blasso St Scorporation. you're a pretty good player. That's much better because the pal station, the thousand dollars, is the limit. So it's red Right, it's much higher.

Speaker 1: 49:26

It's five dollars per thousand. The other disinvited nation of Blasso is that the machines changed and remixed and remade.

Speaker 3: 49:29

So if you have a machine player table, one will become not a machine player, but a machine player. Yes.

Speaker 1: 49:53

Interesting. You have to know what you're looking at, right.

Speaker 2: 50:02

Sometimes a lay out. I'm great that I'm technically a dancer.

Speaker 4: 50:14

Because it's a layout. that's the proper way I was 144 by and lower than what I showed up on.

Speaker 2: 50:22

I still wanted other than the�. The big compliments is Japan very much. but being calm has to pay attention. Yeah, make sure your things are on the spot.

Speaker 1: 50:29

Yeah, i personally really like it, by the way There's. I'll talk about the advantages and disadvantages. One of the major advantages for me is because I live so close to the Red Rock. I don't know at the hours of the other ones, but the Red Rocks open 24 hours a day And the only time they close the stadium, which is basically two games going on, the only time they close it is Sunday morning for about three or four hours, where they take oil up, all the kiosks, the machines, whatever, and they close it down then. But the rest of the time my wife just happens to go to work at six AM, so sometimes I'll just follow her out of the driveway. Well, i give about a blockhead start.

Speaker 1: 51:17

I'm not sure You took as many free hands as you can In stadium. Well, it depends. It depends okay In at most places if there's other people playing. I've seen people sit, like at the Venetian plazo, for hours. They sit there for hours, you know, and not even make a bet. you know They're either doing something else or they're. you know, like Ure was saying, you can use, you know, an electronic device.

Speaker 5: 51:51

Yes.

Speaker 1: 52:14

Yes, yes. Now it also depends on the dealer. You know, if I go to the Red Rock and I'm the only one playing and I walk up to the dealer most of whom I know and I say, you know, i'd really like you to just, you know, don't just steal the hands, you know They'll literally, you know, wait till I give them the head, you know, then say, okay, go ahead, you know, and then they won't deal the next one until I say you know, you toggle over. You just have a button to toggle over from one hand to the other. Okay, one dealer dealing two shoes One shoe, the other shoe, one shoe the other shoe. So they are probably the exception, because you can go there and tell them, you know, i want you to know them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 53:01

Now, other dealers, if you're, even if you're, playing by yourself, they're just gonna, they're gonna deal about every 25 seconds or something you know. And then, if I need to, or if I want to, i'll go up and I'll say, hey, would you slow it down? Okay, because I want to bet here, but you know, i'd like to have a little more time to, you know, talk about it or think about it. The other advantage that I really like is that you can bet smaller bets If you're just wanting to. You know, see, find out what the cards are. Okay, five dollars, you know, even. You know, even if you just bet player consistently or banker consistently, you know what I mean. So you have the advantage that if you need to get cards out that way in order to get them a deal, you know The disadvantages and I think you touched on it, rick is it kind of entices you to bet almost every hand even though there's no reason to? you know what I mean. It kind of sucks you in because you're toggling back and forth.

Speaker 1: 54:03

You cannot, you have no way that you can keep track of this stuff. You know, effectively. You know I can do V87 if I'm careful, but generally speaking, i'm playing just the best bets. In other words, i'm looking for setups, i'm looking for, you know, oh, these are second liners, you know, or this is a strong side, you know, sometimes I will. I've tried the scorecard and it's just once they get cranked and it's confusing. You know. You certainly can't set play something like. You know 5D, believe me, you know, but you The league-gallery ranch.

Speaker 5: 54:45

I haven't played it for these months. They have one deal of two hands and it's supposed to be madeable to the league-gallery ranch and to record.

Speaker 1: 54:55

Yep, yep.

Speaker 3: 54:56

I have a question. If you want to play 5G, you don't have a spreadsheet like an Excel. You just put in the outcome and then you immediately calculate everything for you all the four dimensions.

Speaker 1: 55:06

I can't believe you just gave it, but I really need you. Yeah, I don't, but it sounds like Mookie might have one or something. I'd sort of work too, because it's counting on-. Is there.

Speaker 2: 55:16

To download the actual device they don't have If you have an Apple device, you can't run spreadsheets with macros on Apple devices.

Speaker 3: 55:29

You can use it as an Excel 360, and you can use your Excel spreadsheet and all of those moving parts and some of them everywhere.

Speaker 2: 55:40

Yes, I understand that, but-.

Speaker 3: 55:42

You can use your spreadsheets?

Speaker 2: 55:43

Yeah, but you know, these spreadsheets have formulas and macros, all kinds of bells and whistles, and Apple devices don't allow that, okay, and I don't have an Android device, so I don't know.