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So that's my that's my"},{"speaker":"Peter Mansbridge","startTime":3237.81,"endTime":3238.68,"body":"free promo."},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3240.18,"endTime":3243.21,"body":"Well, Peter,"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3240.18,"endTime":3243.21,"body":"it's it's been an absolute honor"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3243.21,"endTime":3247.17,"body":"for me to have you on this"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3243.21,"endTime":3247.17,"body":"podcast. I look forward to"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3247.2,"endTime":3252.63,"body":"sharing some stories off the"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3247.2,"endTime":3252.63,"body":"record over over a tipple maybe"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3252.63,"endTime":3255.87,"body":"some whiskey at your place in"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3252.63,"endTime":3255.87,"body":"Scotland. I think it is right."},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3256.5,"endTime":3258.93,"body":"So I'm going to be I'm going to"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3256.5,"endTime":3258.93,"body":"be across the pond as well for"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3258.93,"endTime":3263.25,"body":"the next couple of years. So"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3258.93,"endTime":3263.25,"body":"hopefully we can Yeah, share a"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3263.25,"endTime":3267.63,"body":"few drinks. 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But"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3310.11,"endTime":3313.56,"body":"while the podcast might be"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3313.56,"endTime":3317.55,"body":"ending the website will be"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3313.56,"endTime":3317.55,"body":"relaunching in 2022, maybe a"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3317.55,"endTime":3320.46,"body":"little bit earlier, as they do"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3317.55,"endTime":3320.46,"body":"feel the urge to start blogging"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3320.46,"endTime":3325.41,"body":"again. Maybe I have to think"},{"speaker":"Preet Banerjee","startTime":3320.46,"endTime":3325.41,"body":"about that. 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