Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and Starting To Trust Yourself with Samantha Kane

You can be capable, successful, and doing everything “right”… and still feel completely inadequate in certain moments.

So what is that?

We call it imposter syndrome.
We call it self-doubt.
We call it overthinking.

But at the heart of it… this is really a conversation about knowing who you are.

In this episode, I’m joined by Samantha Kane — mom, founder of Roots Wings Wellness, and Certified Holistic Life Coach — to unpack what’s actually happening beneath the surface when we feel like a fraud, second guess ourselves, or shrink in moments that matter.

This conversation bridges the practical and the deeper layers of personal growth — from emotional regulation and grounded communication to identity, self-trust, and the quiet work of coming back to yourself.

We talk about:

• Why imposter syndrome isn’t a confidence problem — it’s an identity and a nervous system one
• The difference between reactive patterns and your grounded, steady self
• How to pause in difficult conversations (and why that changes everything)
• Letting go of responsibility for how others perceive or respond to you
• Rebuilding self-trust through small, consistent actions
• Staying grounded when life feels overwhelming or uncertain
• And how to navigate the in-between seasons where you’re no longer who you were… but not fully who you’re becoming yet

This isn’t about fixing yourself.
It’s about understanding yourself — and learning to trust what you find.

Because maybe you’re not an imposter.

Maybe you’re just learning how to be who you already are.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Whether you're having a conversation with a child, with an adult, whatever it is, it's just being that person that stays regulated with the nervous system to the best of your abilities, then all conversations can go so much better where you actually do hear each other.

Ryann 1:23

Hey friend, welcome back to the show. I'm so happy you're here. This is episode 158, and we're talking about imposter syndrome today. But what if what we call imposter syndrome is simply needing to know yourself more deeply? What you want, who you are, what your truth is, and what is right for you. So at the heart of it, this conversation is really knowing who you are. Because when we don't feel anchored into who we really are, it becomes super easy to second guess decisions, shrink in important high-stakes moments, or even feel like we're playing a role in someone else's movie. Today we're unpacking what's actually going on underneath all of that. I'm joined by Samantha Kane. She's a mom and founder of Roots Wings Wellness. She's also a certified holistic life coach and conscious guide who helps women break through old patterns, reconnect with themselves, and build a life that actually feels aligned, not just looks good on the outside. Yes, please. So we're gonna explore some spiritual concepts in this conversation. And Samantha and I keep it grounded with real life examples of how these things show up in everyday life. So I hope you enjoy my conversation with Samantha Kane as much as I did. Hi, Samantha. Welcome to the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. Hi, Ryan. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, of course. I am so excited to jump into this conversation. We're really speaking to this woman who I feel is all of us. I've been having lots of conversations lately in my community. And something that I'm hearing over and over again is this sense of who am I to do XYZ? So who am I to write the blog, start the podcast, do the business, you know, ask for the raise, fill in the blank here. You know, we all have some version of this. And to me, it's boiling down to this imposter syndrome. We feel like we are playing a role in somebody else's movie, and they must have cast the wrong girl because it's not us. And so take us back to the moment that you had in your life where you thought, like, oh my gosh, who am I to do this? And how did you ultimately overcome that?

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Really hard to narrow it down to one, but just that alone is very telling because it's not like this just happens to us one time in life. First off, this is all of us. This is highly common. This, it's like the angel and the devil on your shoulder, but instead, it's like ego versus spirit, is how I like to think of everything. Because, you know, ego will tell us, well, you can't do that, you know, you're not good enough. Or the opposite. It'll tell you, I am the best at this. And that's not confidence, that's insecurity, right? So it's like one extreme or the other with ego. Spirit is the balance. And with spirit, we can have a better time not rushing through things, but actually breathing through things. And that's what this is all about. It's fear that's stepping in. This is more of an explanation of what it is and what it feels like. But I have had, again, it's just hard to pinpoint one specific time. I've had so many. I've had what you described: going to a supervisor or superior at a workplace and asking for a raise, or not wanting to confront a situation because I was afraid of conflict and how that was gonna look for me. So many different sides. We come into this in every stage of our life, from youth all the way through to the end, I imagine. I mean, there's always something that comes up for us. But what we have to remember is that fear is not the answer. Fear is just a little nosy neighbor that wants to come in and shake things up. And it's actually not a bad thing. It's not a bad place to be. It's kind of like I always say this do you want what you really think you want? So, in other words, it makes you pause and ask yourself, okay, let's for the sake of sticking to one example, let's say I'm going in to ask my boss for a raise, but I'm so nervous about it. I don't feel like I necessarily deserve it, or I do deserve it, but I'm just nervous. So, either way, whatever your thoughts are on it, you're just afraid to speak up for yourself, to be clear, to just walk in the room and just handle your business. Fear is gonna stop you before you take that action and walk into that person's office or space and have the conversation. It's going to make you stop and say, Do I really want what I think I want? And that's the pit stop view where you ask yourself, well, wait a minute, am I jumping the gun? Maybe I should wait another couple weeks or a few months or whatever it is. Or you're gonna say, Absolutely, this is what I want. And either way, you're gonna have an answer, but that will back you up with a little bit of confidence to know, yes, this is now, or yes, yes, but this is later, or not at all.

Ryann 7:15

So I'm hearing you say that feeling in this imposter syndrome archetype, when we're feeling like we're playing a role in someone else's movie, and how dare we, it's actually evidence that we are growing and perhaps doing something outside of our comfort zones. Yeah. Yeah. Well said, yes. Yeah. So that fear, that ego versus the spirit that comes up. I love that. I want to really unpack what is ego and what is spirit, and how do we know when it's the ego talking to us or the spirit talking to us? Sure.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

So with ego, you're going to feel like out of sorts a little bit. It's almost like ego will will again, it's one extreme or the other. It's like ego could be stomping all over you where you do feel like you're in an imposter syndrome headspace where you are just like kind of killing your spirit, basically. Anything that's going to dampen or dishearten you and keep you down, right? It's almost like an abuse of power, so to speak. And then on the flip side of it, it is super powered, high confidence, but it's disguised because it's really insecurity. So it's like you're putting on a mask, it's a facade, and you're showcasing what you think is you in that moment, but it isn't really you. It's something else. And ego does two things for us. It either again kills spirit and keeps us small, or it jazzes you and pumps you up so hard, it has you believing that and it keeps you very far away from who you really are and what you're set out to do in this world. Spirit is the balance, spirit is the breath, spirit is the connection to source or whatever you want to call it, to God, or to any kind of higher energy, higher frequency. It's that higher self, that part of you that you feel fully connected to a divine sense of you. And you feel like this is me. I'm stepping into my power. This is who I am. So when we're taking action and we're doing things throughout our lives, every moment of the day, it's almost like if you imagine a treble, you know, where it's all like a bar graph, let's say, and you're and everything you do in your life is like a treble. And it's like some is at 32%, that some's at 68%. If you imagine every breath, every moment, every action, every phase, every age, your whole life is like that, right? So you have certain percentages ego and certain percentages spirit. And we we're all out of sorts all the time. But the point is to try to come home and recalibrate back to yourself as often as you can and let fear come as a visitor and say hi, you know, hey, what's up? I see you, but I'm not going to keep you around. I'm going to use you as an invitation to question what I'm going through, how I'm being, who I'm being through all these moments in my life, and alter those moments on an as-needed basis. And that's the beauty of it because we are the architects, we are the creators, we are the artists, and we get to choose where we want to go in all these spaces when we take our power back, when we remember that we do have some assemblance of control and order in our lives, then everything doesn't feel so overwhelming and chaotic.

Ryann 11:27

So it's really cool because I think from where I'm standing, it's that our emotions and our feelings in any given moment can kind of give us a hint or a clue of whether we're an ego or whether we're in spirit. I was talking to somebody the other day on the phone and I was speaking about kind of like a financial decision that our family was possibly gonna make. And like, and as soon as I said it, I was like, this was shouldn't have shared this right now. And you know, so the person came back with some criticism of why this would be a bad idea, so risky, and like, okay, my first thing was like, you don't fucking know me and you don't know my decisions, right? So I I went to ego, like immediately. And I kind of just said, like, well, you know, we're weighing, we're weighing the costs and the benefits, and we are considering all, you know, all of the information necessary to make this what you feel is a risky decision. And I just kept it at that. And it was an interesting experience because after the conversation, I couldn't shake it. I was like, ugh, like I was just like holding on to this, like, yeah. And so went for a walk. And actually, I was on a walk, luckily, and I kind of like, okay, what's coming up for me here? Okay. I felt like I wasn't heard, I wasn't understood. Maybe I felt like I was stupid. Oh, maybe I don't, maybe this isn't a good decision. You know, what it was this person right of how dumb this is. Okay, so I'm feeling dumb. I'm feeling stupid now, uninformed, uneducated. All these places that my mind and my ego went, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna sit with that. So, well, I walked with it really. So I'm like walking with these feelings, and then I'm like, I'm gonna let them go now. So I felt the feelings, let them go, yeah, moved on, kind of blessed the conversation, and then moved on with my life. But obviously, I'm still talking about it. So it was a it was a moment that I was like, okay, I could have done better here. So if that was you in that conversation, what would you have done? And how do we, in those moments when we're just feeling like spiky with somebody, how do we come back to that love, that spirit, that higher self, especially maybe in those difficult conversations with those perhaps that we're projecting these difficult people.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Yeah. Well, first of all, you did a great job. And I think, well, honestly, consider the fact that what your mind was thinking, but the words that came out of your mouth were different, right? So that's true, right? So you filtered and you edited, and that's what we need to do. Okay, because we you did the perfect thing. This is what I would do as well. Now a daze. I did not do this back in the day. Oh no, no, that wasn't me at all. I was I would feed in. So correct me too.

Ryann 15:37

Yeah. Like an addiction to the the drama or like the addiction to the ego, that emotion.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

All of it. All of it. Okay. It's also emotional immaturity. Because when we're younger, and it's also a neglect of connection with emotional intelligence, right? So now that we make better choices, that's only because we've stopped and taken a look at the situation before we just are fed something in our ears, our brain is scanning through, and then we're like unsafe, high alert, risk mode, don't like it. This sucks, this feels horrible. And then it just computes right out our mouth immediately. But if when we're older, we get to change that and shift that into maturity, where we take the moment to filter through, then that's the best thing that you can do. And that has everything to do with ego versus spirit. Your spirit is like, all right, take a step back, let that person have judgment, let them criticize, let them say their piece, and then when it's the appropriate time, interject with your higher energy and show them what's up, but not with ego. Well, actually, da-da-da-da. And then you just leave it because this person usually on the other side is gonna wanna one up that if they're if they're coming from a lower level frequency and energy, and because if a lot of people are still, you know, they just they just wanna, you know, and you're like, well, I'm just and it's not from the spirit side of things, it's not a one-upping, it's that you're shutting down the entire conversation because you're telling it like it is from truth, and there's no emotion behind it. Spirit doesn't need emotion other than love, kindness, patience, acceptance, and calm. Nervous system regulated. On the other side, ego is like, you know, doing a little chicken neck and and uh, well, you better hear me, and this is this is what I have to say, and what I have to say is the most important. So I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna get loud, and you know, a perfect example. I'm getting gas yesterday. And I, whenever I'm getting gas, I it's like as silly as this is, I'm outside. So I'm taking a moment, I'm feeling the breeze, I'm like looking around. I live in a beautiful area where usually I have some view of mountains, right? I'm just looking at the birds flying around, and I'm not paying attention to the gas pump. I'm paying attention to everything else. And I'm always allowing my senses to just be open to everything, right? In this moment yesterday, there was this man who was at the business right over, and he's on like a headset or something, and he is yelling. And so there was no way for me not to hear him. And he was very angry at whoever he was talking to. He was really mad. It was like, and I I felt his energy. I'm empathic, but I also felt it because it seemed so emotionally tied in. It wasn't like being mean anger, it was emotional anger. Like, you're not hearing what I'm saying, kind of thing. And listening to those kinds of things, it's like we have to allow ourselves to dial it back and take a step back and try to have conversations to the best of our abilities without raising it up so high that we're bringing it with fire because all that does is escalate everything. And if the other person was already there, you're perpetuating. If the other person wasn't there, you're gonna probably make them go there. So the point is to always try to be that person to bring it back down because you have the chance. And we have the opportunity to do this over and over again with our own children, right? Because we want to help guide them. So it's the same thing, whether you're having a conversation with a child, with an adult, whatever it is, it's just being that person that stays regulated with the nervous system to the best of your abilities. Then all conversations can go so much better where you actually do hear each other and it's not so heightened. That's not to say that we should just not have emotion come to the surface because it does, but there's a way to do it. And the best way is when you feel like I need to say that thing, just literally put your body back because that will remind you to okay, I'm gonna chill out before I say something I'm gonna regret. Yep. Yep.

Ryann 20:41

If we all took this pause, you're talking like a five-second pause. If we all took this pause, I wonder how much better we could communicate with each other, you know? And let's talk about us not being responsible for how the other person responds or reacts, because this is a thing that I think we all are like, well, I upset this person. Well, I, you know, I did the thing. I, you know, I was neutral and I chose not to escalate and I was coming from my higher self and I responded with love. And that person was still angry, disheartened, shut down, you know, like insert the reaction there. Now we sometimes, as good codependents, right? Recovering, we feel responsible for how we've made that person feel or perceive what we're saying. So let's talk about how we can detach ourselves from another's experience.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Yeah, that's an excellent question. It's of the highest importance to learn how to detach from pretty much everything in our life anyway. And a lot of people will not understand this right away. So I'll break it down. We come into this earth naked and from God knows where, right? From the stars is how I say it to my child. Me too. Me too. Yeah, awesome. Um, when we're coming into this, we are programmed with so many layers of things from our parents to education to, you know, medicine to government to everything. Everybody has their hands on our brain, right? And then we have our own theories and philosophies about everything. So there's so many layers, right? And the older we get, we have more and more and more and more. We have so many things. And then we have friendships and relationships and family and all these things, and then eventually a job. So that's a lot of energy pile up. And it's very hard to hear our own voice at all anymore. It gets so highly chaotic in our brains, and then we go, I don't know why I'm so overwhelmed. Well, like you're so overwhelmed because the world is cuckoo bananas. And so when you take a step back and you have that pause and you reflect and you go, wait a minute, I came into this earth for the 800th go round of you know, my reincarnation. And I'm sitting here stressing over someone else's opinion or how I feel it landed. Did I hurt that person's feeling by saying my own truth? And I did so so kindly, but did I hurt their feelings? And then that's still our responsibility. No, absolutely not. Even my own child, I have worked on detaching. That doesn't mean I love her less. That doesn't mean she's any less important in my life. That doesn't mean that we have less of a soul connection or purpose on this earth in this go-round of each of our lives. What that means is not yours, though. She's not. She's not she doesn't belong to you. She doesn't she belongs to herself. Exactly. So that's what we can say about partnerships in business, partnerships romantically in every facet of our life. Material possessions, like, okay, I purchased this jacket. It belongs to me, but it doesn't really. I mean, it's here and My home, it's in my closet, but at the end of the day, I'm gonna die. Where's that jacket gonna go? So I'm gonna die. Where's this relationship gonna go? I'm gonna die. Where's my car gonna go? Like all these things: material, energetics, all these things. If we tie ourselves like wrapped around, so energetically um strong, we are going to reap not the benefit, but the opposite. We're going to feel the stressors on ourselves that are not necessary to live a brilliant life. We're doing more damage in this way. And so to be in relation with yourself, with others, with material possessions, with the leveling up in your life, own it, but don't own it. And appreciate it and have the gratitude and the love for it, but don't obsess over it. And there's a huge difference because when you understand that all you own is this moment, that's when you understand what true presence is. And then that's really what the gift is of life in this here and now moment.

Ryann 25:26

So beautiful. And I think this ties back into the imposter syndrome. Because for me, once I started to lean into many of the things you're talking about, detachment and really this, like, you know, we're in this blip of time in this ever-expanding universe, and we're like tiny little like whatever. Like we're just this sliver of like the entire experience. And when you put it into perspective like that, you start to think, well, like, who am I anyway? Like, who am I? And that's for me, I've come down to this, like, you know, sure. I'm not walking around as my highest self all the time. Like, don't get me wrong. And like, I am more in tune with her. I think she, I think she's the girl, my higher self. And so, or anyway, so I'm more in tune with her. And this brings me to when we step into this little bit new way of living, like we're talking about right now. We're like, oh my God, what's going on? Everything I was taught is a lie. Everything I believed is a lie. Everything I learned was a lie. You know, and the kind of the list goes on. That's at least where I found myself landing after this kind of awakening, right? And so then we kind of feel like strangers walking around in our families or learning new higher self ways of communicating. It's like, geez, like this, this is different. And so we feel a little like fish out of water. And so for that person who is really just coming out of the cocoon, maybe let's call it. What would you say to that person to kind of anchor them in and ground them in to this experience right now? It gets better.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

And it also gets worse. But then it gets better again.

Ryann 27:12

Yes. Yes. Oh my God. That's so funny. I was leaving book club the other day, and we we don't even read a book anymore. We just gather and chat. We were talking about it's so funny. Yeah. So we were talking about various challenges we had going on in our lives, and one of the moms was like talking about an issue she was having, is having with one of her kids. And you know, we were all kind of like holding the space and you know, empathizing and just really kind of sitting in that space. And I said goodbye, and I said, it's gonna get better, and then it's gonna get worse again, and then it's gonna be. I said literally the exact same thing, and we all start cracking up because it's so true.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

It's true. You can't sugarcoat this, like it's not like oh, they're there, like it's gonna be all good. Oh, good for you. It's like, are you ready, girl? Cause it's a ride. I mean, once you open these doors, and when I'm when I say door, I've I envision like the biggest doors you've ever seen of your life because it's portals, really. It's like there's so many worlds on worlds, on worlds, and levels and layers to all of it that when you feel like your entire existence is is awakened and shaken up, you're like, what happened to me? And you do absolutely lose a sense of yourself and you do have a very hard time connecting not just with you, but all your relationships and all the things you do and all the ways you think. Because when everything in the world is questioned, it's not just like one area of your life, it's just all the areas of your life. Then, like you say, it's like, who am I? And you have some kind of identity crisis. And I I went through this personally um during the 2020 fun time. Remember that? Remember that?

Ryann 30:12

I do I want to say the plandemic? I don't know. Around here, I call it the plandemic, but we we can pick our own names for it.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

I agree. Yeah, and that was a real doozy because at the time for me personally, I had a new baby. I was a first-time mom. My husband was working um seven days a week, and after like five days or whatever it was after she was born, he was like, peace, see you later. And then he was gone. And it was like, me and the new world Wait, he left you in conjunction. No, okay, for work. Let me word that better. For work.

Ryann 30:50

Left work. Came back at time. Okay, great. Yes. Sometimes I feel like that when my husband goes to work. I'm like, don't leave me again, please. That was my abandoned wound happened. Like, it comes up every time you go on a work trip. Please stop leaving me.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Yeah. Poor choice of words. I wasn't clear at all. He always came back every night, but he was gone for many hours and seven days at a time. So it was like all the time. So I was alone a lot with my thoughts, raising this new angel and trying to keep her alive and trying to keep my sanity. And I was totally losing my mind. I was making ridiculous videos and creating songs. I love making up songs, so um, writing songs. So I was, I was doing all kinds of nuts things, entertaining myself while trying to not lose my mind, but totally losing my mind. But at that time, just all the aforementioned was applicable to me. I was losing my self-identity. I literally sat there like, who am I? How do I plug myself back in? To it was like the old school operators where a woman would sit there and they were like, hello, you know, they plug in the cord and they'd be like, How may I help you? And then they'd plug in another, and there's like a million, it's like a grid, you know? And that was like, if the grid was my life with every single person and aspect of my life, it was like everything came undone and unplugged. And I'm like, okay, this is cool. I don't know, but then how do I like connect back with this person? So you find yourself like trying to reconnect, trying to rediscover because the onion is completely unraveled. And you're like, okay, this stinks. It's like literally, literally, everything stinks. I don't, I don't know which side is up. I don't know who I am. I don't know how to um circumnavigate this. I don't know what to do. And that and the thing was, it wasn't just me. It was that everyone was having their own experience at the same time. So it was so insane. But that that was just one time. Also, we have these moments into motherhood with postpartum, with or just being a new mom, postpartum or not, or people with trauma and PTSD or CPTSD, and all the layers that come in and out. It's like waves, you know. Sometimes we forget about these issues of our lives, and then sometimes they're like right in your face again. Hey, don't forget about me. And you're like, I didn't. I was just trying to have a good day. So leave me the fuck alone for five minutes. Yeah, I'm just trying to breathe right now. But that so circling back to the beginning topic of feeling shrunken or small or second-guessing ourselves and having so much self-doubt. I would say it's just really important to know the distinction between, you know, having compassion for yourself and, you know, taking the step back and being like, wow, I'm in a real moment. Like, let me give myself some grace. And then placing boundaries as needed so everyone around you can offer up grace too. Otherwise, but by anyone that doesn't get it. But then also being careful to not enter the victim zone, because we can be a woe is me, and you won't even have time to place a boundary because people, places, and things will not like your energy and they will automatically disengage. People feel it. If you're gonna constantly be talking about all your problems and it's the same stuff over and over on repeat, then they're gonna throw that record out the window and it's gonna break in a million pieces, and they're gonna be like, Ryan who, Sam Who. Yep. So we have I've been on both sides of that. Same. I I've definitely been on both sides of that for sure. Yeah, yeah. Same here. It's not yeah easy, but it happens to all of us. And so this is why we have to circle back to ourselves and really find the balance between not taking things so seriously because we shouldn't feel like we're just stuck in a seatbelt that doesn't come off. We should try to enjoy the ride a little bit. And I know it gets scary, but it's just has to be where you're able to find the tools, surround yourself with great people, even if it's one or two and that's it, because you have to get rid of everyone else because they suck, and you just don't connect with them anymore because you've evolved. We don't have to keep the same people around. More people need to know that. Family included, anybody doesn't matter their relation, anybody, if they are incessantly over and over broaching your safety and disrespecting, and it's just the same, really, really bad or continually getting worse. We need to consider the shifts we need to make for our own peace. Yeah, it's so true.

Ryann 36:10

And to me, this conversation at the heart is really that self-trust. So, like you mentioned before, allowing ourselves to kind of tune out, if you will, the noise and become very familiar in our own experience to say, like, I trust myself because I said I was gonna do this one little thing and I did it for, you know, 30 days in a row or 60 days in a row or 472 days in a row. Like just really getting to know what you want, who you are, and what's okay with you and what's not okay with you. Like, and just the really small steps forward to me is like rebuilding that identity in your higher self, and then trusting that that's enough, and trusting you are on the path that you're meant to be on on the good days and the hard days and the in between. And maybe everything just becomes like neutral. You know, I think there's an old parable who's like about a monk who like loses. I think it's like a monk who loses his kid, he raises the son, and then this another guy comes in and says, No, that was my son that you raised. And all the townspeople are like, Oh gosh, how horrible. And he's like, Maybe so. And all these different various things happen that everyone thought, Oh, that's so bad. And he just said, Maybe so, maybe so. Like stepping into that neutrality and really, really trusting that you are here for a reason and this path was meant for you.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Yeah, I love that. That's great. And that's really what it is, and that's what I mean. You touched on uh on a beautiful way of what I mean when I say coming back home to yourself or recentering, you know, or getting the trouble line at balance, like in everything. Because when I work with clients in life coaching, I we look at all the facets of their life, and you know, things are usually wonky. Something's way up here, something else is down here, and we're like, okay, let's see where we need to re-prioritize, reorganize, and um, and that's where we know how to do things after we look at every piece of the puzzle. But it is recentering and finding that balance through our micro choices and our micro actions, because a lot of people get overwhelmed thinking, well, I have all these things to do. No, okay, chill. What's the next first thing you have to do? Let's look at that and that alone and push everything else away. And then after you get that one thing done, we'll talk about the other stuff, but let's just deal with like what's the most important thing right now. And then then we go from there. And like you use the word build because we build on it, and you can't build all at the same time. Imagine if you like built a second story first. No, you don't just like dive into like the second or third. This is like what I deal with with my kid all the time. This morning she's putting on a necklace, and I go, babe, is this the priority right now? Or were you supposed to be in the bathroom brushing your teeth and washing your hands? Jewelry is not the priority. Jewelry can be last. Let's brush teeth first. That's the most important, you know, or we have bonus time, I call it. After she gets the morning routine done, she gets into her bonus time. That that's like her playtime. She can do art, she can play, she could do whatever she wants. But did you do the priorities first? Same as adults. We get distracted. We have phones now, we do all these things. We're getting crazy and we're going too far. So there's ways to reel yourself back in and like put your head down. I don't like people putting their heads down because then you're not seeing everything sometimes. But in this sense, when you are trying to focus on getting one good thing done, then yeah, like we do have to shine the noise and just get back to basics. Keep it simple.

Ryann 40:06

Keep it simple. Doesn't have to be so overwhelming. It doesn't have to be a giant thing. Yeah. So this conversation is just, I know that everybody here right now is like, yes, because I truly feel something my yoga teacher always says is like how she picks the class for the week is like, well, I felt like this is what I needed this week. And if I needed this, then the collective needed this too. Like we are all walking this experience in different bodies, you know, in different houses and different lives. And also, it's so universal what we're going through. And so let's all, like you said, Sam, have a little bit more fun. This is something I could work on for sure, having more fun, not taking myself so seriously. I get very serious. And my husband would call it passionate. He's like, You're very passionate. I'm like, I know what you mean by that. So thank you. So for the woman here who's just like, okay, got it. You know, like I'm gonna move through this with more grace. How would you, asking for a friend, tell her to just have a little more fun through all of this? Asking for a friend. Asking for a friend. It's all of us. It's all of us.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

It is. Well, to add on to what your yogurt teacher says and does is that it is about the collective. If you're feeling something, it probably is in the air, right? And so, as the great Ram Das says, he says, we're all just walking each other home. And that's really what it is. So we don't need to be so opinionated and criticize other people's decisions and choices because that is their life to live. And we shouldn't be doing that to others either. And we should just be focused on our own next choice. That's it. Keep it simple. Love it.

Ryann 41:57

Yeah. Love it. Your work is amazing. Rootswingswellness.com. Go over there and check out Samantha's work. You've got a beautiful website. Follow her on Instagram. Thank you so much for being you, Samantha, and thank you for being here today. Thank you. Appreciate it. And I loved this conversation. Thank you so much.