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Syndicate Crown Recap - E.356
What separates the physically capable from the truly elite competitors? In this revealing episode, we take you behind the scenes at the Syndicate Crown CrossFit competition to examine the critical mental game that makes all the difference when athletes step onto the competition floor.
Fresh off witnessing the intensity of high-level CrossFit competition, we unpack what makes execution under pressure so difficult – and so important. The physical capacity of these athletes is undeniable, but what truly differentiates them is their ability to execute strategies effectively when the pressure mounts and adapt when things inevitably go sideways.
We share an in-depth analysis of Misfit athlete Erica Folo's performance, including both her dominant first-place finish in "Regionals Revenge" and a dramatic fall during a handstand walk workout that tested her mental resilience. These contrasting moments perfectly illustrate our central thesis: "You don't rise to the occasion; you fall to the level of your training." The habits you build in training – both mental and physical – determine your capacity to perform when it matters most.
For coaches and athletes alike, we explore the psychology behind competition nerves, breaking down how the same physiological response (increased heart rate, adrenaline) can be channeled either as energizing "fight" energy or debilitating "flight" anxiety. The difference often comes down to preparation, strategy, and the mental frameworks you've developed long before competition day.
Whether you're a competitive CrossFit athlete or simply someone who wants to understand the psychological components of high-performance, this episode offers actionable insights on developing strategic thinking, mental toughness, and the ability to adapt when your perfect plan meets the messy reality of competition. Join us for a fascinating journey into the minds of elite competitors and the coaches who guide them.
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Good morning Misfits. You are tuning into another episode of the Misfit Podcast. On today's show we have a little bit of a syndicate crown debrief. One of the things that's fun when I'm coming off a competition is just some sort of coaching, things that are front of mind and being able to chop it up with Hunter about things from that side of the fence. There aren't a lot of people that speak our language, so that's usually a fun part of the debrief.
Speaker 2:Before we get to that, a little bit of housekeeping. For new listeners, new customers. We have a new bundle on both Strivee and Fitter where you get our GPP hatchet, which is for open and semifinals, hopefuls and masters programs all in one, something that people have been asking for for a while. That is available now, so go check that out. Yeah, I think that's about it. Sharpentheaxecocom Any of the shirts you saw us wearing this weekend on any of the videos, shirts and hoodies. Hoodies are live at sharpen the ax, cocom. And then, if you like, a little uh, bargain bin hunting brings me back to my childhood, having to stand in Marshall's when my mom looked at every shirt laying down underneath the racks, thinking I was going to die of boredom. Um, we got a bunch of old stuff on there as well. That's marked way down. All right, chat, what's up? So?
Speaker 1:I like marshalls did you like it as a kid mark uh, it was kind of a weird. It was a weird place.
Speaker 2:As a kid it was like uh it could be fun for run like trying to make your parents scared that they can't find you because you're running through the aisles is fun, and then maybe there's one discount toy. But if we're going to do two or three stores I'm going to lose my mind.
Speaker 1:I still get that feeling.
Speaker 2:I have negative nostalgia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not one of those places I remember thinking like oh, this place has good toys. Those places I I remember thinking like oh, this place has like good toys, and that sounds probably a little uh, a little first class for first world problem sort of deal, like, as these toys here aren't nearly as good as like I was poor back then, so it's not yeah, so it's like toys, like not great toys, but man as an adult.
Speaker 1:They got marshalls attached to the home goods like do a little perusing for some, for some nice linens and perhaps some discounted nike socks, and we're in business and I'm more of a sierra guy.
Speaker 3:You guys ever been to sierra? It's in the same family as uh as marshalls we have one.
Speaker 1:It's kind of it's over by um target.
Speaker 3:I've never even heard of it's like I feel it's a little bit of an upscale version of marshalls I felt like it's like don't they have a lot of outdoor shit?
Speaker 1:yeah, they got good carhartt stuff there for a good price yeah, like when I walked in there the first time, it looked to me like it was like the Marshalls equivalent of REI.
Speaker 2:It was like yeah, yeah, that's what it is, I could get into that. Yeah, it's like Sierra is the. That sounds more up my alley.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, in actual life chat. Got the new flat stick, got the new putter Rolling the rock really nice. Yeah, big, big improvement over the uh placebo the other, or, uh, definitely, initially at least, a healthy dose of both. Um, I like it, but the yeah just give me some putter talk.
Speaker 2:What the fuck it's literally like could you, could you? Take a mini golf putter. Talk what the fuck it's literally like. Could you, could you take a mini golf putter out there and do the same thing, like why is a putter one petter?
Speaker 1:no, so like the, what I was using was like a blade, so it's like kind of what you think of as a traditional putter. It's like like when you look down on it it's like a narrow, like rectangle almost. I now have a mallet putter which has like the larger. It's like what rory scotty shuffler used. It's a little bit bigger, um, I mean listen yeah, it's more.
Speaker 1:And the way that it's balanced, like if you held the putter like by the shaft, like this, the face would stay upright, so it wouldn't uh yeah, there you go, it would not, uh, it would not hang. So it's it's basically what you call its face balanced. So it helps. It basically just helps the putter stay like it's more like a pendulum. Square through the. Yeah, and it's for like which butter is it?
Speaker 2:let's get eyes on this thing.
Speaker 1:Type in Jailbird Mini, odyssey Jailbird Mini. It's got a dope fucking head cover too. It's got a gnarly looking like eagle on that thing. Yeah, there you go, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, click that first one there. Seb, Everybody's riveted here. Yeah, I'm riveted by a hundred sweet head cover, sweet head cover. Well, fortunately it was uh not that much. We got the old shop credit at to uh subsidize that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take it. Gotta spend money to make money, as they say.
Speaker 2:So I mean look at that fucking dope head cover yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd say the head cover is probably the highlight yeah, for sure, yeah, um yeah, it's rolling well, rolling the flat stick really well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we like it. So I'm gonna shave a couple strokes off the putting game, uh, while I subsequently work on some some swing changes. That will definitely add strokes to the game. So, yeah, um all.
Speaker 2:How many steps back to go forward? We talking. What's the trade-off here? Yeah, I don't know, man, that's like teach someone to row, well, and they're like at, like a 205, I've thought, yeah, I've tried to like yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1:It's like if you could learn to get into the power position, your Olympic lifts, you'd add 20 pounds. The problem is it's going to take you like a thousand reps of practice and then like implementation and you're like but I could just keep doing it this way. So we'll see, We'll see. I'm a recreational golfer trying to shoot low, but I also I think there's something to be said about having a golf swing that looks nice that.
Speaker 1:I'm a little bit of an aesthetic snob as far as that goes. I don't like, I like when they're Even for a weekend warrior. I like the idea that the golf swing looks nice.
Speaker 2:I would like for it to produce results, but like when it looks nice, there's an implication of how smooth it is and if you're smooth when you're swinging.
Speaker 1:You're being a little bit more athletic, a little bit more repeatable, like yeah, all those lifters that we were obsessed with back in the day lifted exactly the same yeah, yeah, there's something to be said about the reason that people who swing the golf club the best in the world have very strong similarities across the board but you ever golf with someone.
Speaker 2:That sucks that does the pro follow through like an hour after their actual swing I hate, just hangs on to it. Yeah, they do the like. They have to get the club way up perpendicular parallel with the ground. Oh yeah, it's like you had to lift your club to that position after you golfed. Yeah, like is someone taking like long range photos of you and you got to look like you know what you're doing yeah, that ball, that ball that ball was never at any point on the target line Like put your fucking club down and go find that bitch out of the woods.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we are in. Yeah, for all the CrossFitters out there, when a coach tells you to, you know, take a couple steps back in order to take a few steps forward. I am currently in that phase, just with golf instead of a barbell. So it's a pain in the ass, but we'll, uh, we'll. I'll keep everybody updated, since I know you guys are very curious about it, but yeah there's a few.
Speaker 1:There's at least one there, yeah halves of dozens of people who are skipping, what do you got? Going through this segment of the podcast.
Speaker 3:I don't know man, I was with you all weekend. I feel like I got home at like 11.
Speaker 2:Tell the people 11 last night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, we got to be in Knoxville at the Syndicate Crown and just got to do cool media stuff for the squad there and yeah, I thought they did pretty well. You know I I don't know much about coaching, but they a lot. They seem to be. Improvement would like, be true. I didn't really get a chance to talk to lindsey, but I don't know, I just I just like being able to follow them throughout the weekend and just kind of document what they're doing yeah for sure for sure.
Speaker 2:Um, I got like so incredibly lucky with travel which feels like not a thing, right?
Speaker 1:I mean, it has been like 15 years, so you're bound to get it right. Get lucky one time right, the the misfits.
Speaker 2:We'll have erica on soon. You guys will get to know her. She's a quirky young lady and the night before she was leaving she couldn't find her confirmation number to input into the app. She's like do I even have a flight? And I was Boy. This is a little karma here. I was kind of making fun of her a little bit and like, seb, are you going to help her? Does she actually have a flight? And she did have a flight and she was fine. So I'm facetiming with maya and carter monday morning and she's like send me your flight info. So I log into delta and it says nine hours until check-in and I was like this is weird. I look at the top and it says Tuesday June 3rd 6.20.
Speaker 1:PM.
Speaker 2:And I was like, fuck, I booked the flight for the wrong day. So I'm like, here we go, like I just especially ever since having a kid like at that point I want to go home, like I want to get out of there. And the idea of hanging out in Knoxville for a day and a half, I just I wasn't, I wasn't into it.
Speaker 2:I had a fix of door dash and hanging out. Um so the exact same flight, no differences was available. Took like two seconds to change it but then none of my stuff would populate. So like I had a boarding pass but it wouldn't tell me the gate when it was boarding or what my seat was, and I was like what's going on? And they're like when you do a change this late, you have to. They just give you a seat assignment, just as what it is. So I didn't get to choose any of my seats and like I travel enough that my status is high enough that I can like upgrade for free and stuff, so I was like fuck, like I had all my seats ready to go. Good to go both times. Scan my ticket first class ticket pop, pops out first class on both flights because there were no other nice.
Speaker 1:Oh man, yeah, what a turn of events and like I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not that impressed by it. To be honest, I don't understand the cost of it. For what it is, like it's fine. I've been on long flights before where it's like okay, like them actually asking you if you want water 52 times is nice. Shit like that. Um, basically everyone is drunk in first class, which is hilarious to watch can be a little scary. Um, oh, one good thing. Last night this, this kid had a tripod in his. He had like strapped it to the side with the straps of his backpack and one of the legs of it had come out and like he was walking by a woman and I don't think it hit her.
Speaker 2:She grabbed it oh, and was like hey, your thing, which I thought she was being nice. And then he was like, oh, thank you. And he turns around. She goes. You need to be more careful with that. And he goes, it's gonna be all right, lady it's gonna be all right, lady, it's going to be all right. And then he just walked off and I was like, yes it was a very like Karen moment.
Speaker 2:She was irate. She was like you can't, you can't say that to me. So I I enjoyed that very much. That was. That was a fucking good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got to imagine, yeah, I just I got lucky.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the first class thing is yeah, it's not like. Obviously the lay down would be nice, but every time I checked that it's like eight mortgage payments You're like no dude, why I don't get it. I'd have to be really, really, really rich, Cause even if I had the money to do it, I'd be like what?
Speaker 1:Seven grand again on an airplane.
Speaker 1:We got super lucky when I was coming back from deployment in Australia. Um, they flew us. It was, they were commercial aircraft, we weren't on like civil with, we weren't with civilians, but, um, like these massive aircrafts and the officers and senior staff got the lay flat first class seats and it was like, yeah, we're talking like 15, 16 hour flight. And it was like lay down, go to sleep for five hours, wake up, get the food that they bring you. Lay down, go to sleep for five hours, wake up, get the food we like. Left Australia, go to sleep for five hours, wake up, get the food we like. Left Australia.
Speaker 1:It was like you know you wake up at three, four in the morning, whatever, but landed in California, I guess would that be the following day, but at like five in the afternoon. So it felt just like you woke up at five. You know, you flew at five, you landed at five. It felt like just a full day of travel, even though the the the calendar was a day to the right. But zero jet lag, those lay flat seats with the fucking tits, it was so nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the, and they're. They're crazy on the like real airlines that are still owned by the government and all those other countries. Like, when we got on the flight to go to dubai, there was a staircase up to a bar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we didn't have that standing there having like cocktail hour, what is happening? And then you see all the athletes that like end up taking those jobs over in dubai when they come over to competitions. They have like their own room on the airplane. Like what is this? Is this? That's good shit, all right. So Syndicate Crown.
Speaker 2:Seb and I were there Wednesday through Monday. We've got obviously, if you live under a rock, you can go to our Instagram some really cool photos of all the athletes, and one of the things that I talked to Seb about a little bit that I like is just every single person that's there, whether they're trying to qualify for the games or got a last minute invite, works their ass off. So to be able to provide media coverage for people like that, it means a lot. It helps tell their story. I don't think there's a lot of companies that do that. Um, so so that was, that was something that was pretty cool about it. Um, and Seb, what do you think on on YouTube next week for the for the full video this week, friday?
Speaker 1:Friday All right.
Speaker 2:Sweet yeah. So we've got a good video coming your way. We've got content from basically everybody, but for the most part it kind of follows Erica's journey. We really wanted you guys, the misfits, to kind of get to know her a little bit. And, as usual, just a really well-run competition, no major complaints about anything.
Speaker 2:The athletes, when they don't have a you know a big story to tell about, you know an issue with athlete control and issue with, like, oh my God, my heat times are off the. You know this didn't happen. You know I had, like a crappy judge or anything like that. They just really wasn't that much conversation like that, um, over the course of the weekend and that's, I think, uh, uh, like a nod to to just a really well-run competition. And then I kind of stand behind, um, kind of stand behind. You know we did the whole programming preview episode, but the programming was really good, um, and what we thought was going to happen over the course of the weekend did, when you have 10 to 12 girls that have a legitimate shot at qualifying for the games at one competition, um, you see a lot of leaderboard changes. You know you go from Isabel to a 25-minute workout to two miles of running and then back-to-back high-skill workouts and then kind of a power output thing. You can see how the leaderboard would just be kind of topsy-turvy and, aside from Brooke, wells was basically first place the whole time. It was kind of the rest of the field after her. And that's such a good thing because it makes the little details and the execution pieces of the workouts so important. The way that you strategize when there isn't as much parity. You can get away with not doing as well in a workout but essentially not being helped by anybody else or like. Like how many people are going to be in between your score and somebody else's score?
Speaker 2:Um, and I know that a lot of people would have wanted to see some of the other athletes that were there last year, but I think for the entertainment value and the stories over the course of the weekend, people watching that were, you know, rooting for any of those you know top 10 to 12 girls, I think it's. It's a like. It's just a good thing for the sport to have that. It sucks when you watch professional sports and it's like David versus Goliath all the time. Um, and sometimes leagues are that way and sometimes they aren't Um, so it's just really cool to see. And then we got the news that um Tia to me is a has been. She had one second place finish. She only had 597 out of 600 points. Um, so she's obviously cooked. She had a two week peaking schedule off of high rocks. Did she officially retire or not? No, she had a two-week peaking schedule off of.
Speaker 1:High Rocks, just fucking. Did she officially retire or not? No it looked like I read something in Morning Chalk Up that was just like very wishy-washy.
Speaker 2:It's like are we going to? It was wishy-washy and it was like is she saying goodbye to Torian specifically? Is she saying she's going back there Because she could have done Syndicate?
Speaker 1:Right If she wanted to.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't think it's easy. For One thing that's fun about the whole Froning versus Fraser thing is if you do open it up to anyone, that is the best CrossFit ever, tia's by far more dominant than both of them.
Speaker 1:That's the.
Speaker 2:GOAT, and I know that that normally doesn't enter the conversation, but it's kind of funny to say, especially when we've had instances of workouts that were either literal one-to-one exactly the same and she torches most of the guys, or they're just so close in how much weight they put in the rock or whatever that it's basically the exact same workout. Um, that's the kind of shit that you love to see. That's. It's really fucking cool. Yep, how was it from the media perspective, seb?
Speaker 3:I'm able to be fully honest, or yeah I'm burning my bridges, not anybody else's, dude it was. Uh. I mean I really love syndicate crown. I think it's a great venue and it's run really smoothly. It's really cool. There's like 12 media people there. I mean I know there wasn't big names, but there's still like maybe 20 of the media room was taken that's weird super Like because the all of the major programming companies had multiple athletes there.
Speaker 2:It wasn't like you know, you know this company and this company and this company didn't have their people.
Speaker 3:They all did, they were all back there but it was just like compare and I know it was different. Last year it was a bigger, like the actual competition floor was bigger and whatever, but I don't know, it was just a weird feeling. Even like vendor village compared to last year was like very small.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was weird so that was the vendor village yeah.
Speaker 3:So I guess it's just as one of those things that because I I saw from a different point of view last year, I'm kind of comparing it and maybe that's not fair to it. But yeah, it was a little bit eerie, but I don't know. I really enjoy Syndicate Crown and it was a really really great weekend for us.
Speaker 2:What did you think of the half floor?
Speaker 3:Really cool from a media perspective, because that's where we got all those crispy shots of everybody, like, regardless of where they were competing, like whether it was in the middle lane, on the floor or lane one or ten. Like you can, you can get there. That was great, and I also love about them as, like you can go shoot up in the stands and no one's gonna yell at you I thought the, I thought the like when we first got there.
Speaker 3:It was weird in the stands and nobody like, no like in the, in the running event, like there's a by the starting line, by the rig, like you can stand directly over the athlete and get some good like starting line shots, like I don't know. I think that stuff's cool because most competitions, like we can't do that, you know, like the rig is, like you're, you're off limits, don't even think about it is there, anybody from hq there, like castro, make an appearance.
Speaker 2:Boss, like anybody they normally do, but they weren't there.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think the only people that I can think of that would be connect mayhem classic.
Speaker 2:Castro was a classic yes, I think I saw boss there too. Um, the only people that you would see hunter that you would know are the same old athlete control and like head judges and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, and HQ, hq. Usually will send like one video guy and one photo guy and neither were there.
Speaker 1:I guess I meant more someone like a, like a Carswell or a Dave or or Boz, or even not even Don Nope, nope, no, I don't think. Don, not even Don Nope.
Speaker 2:Nope, no, I don't think Don's coming anymore Events. If I had to guess and if I had to guess, I think they're in fucking sales mode, yeah. So, for context, they they basically pushed. One thing that's really cool about syndicate is they have a coaches, friends and family section at the finish line. So every athlete gets a lanyard and they can give it to whoever they want.
Speaker 2:And they can come down and sit in those seats and then the coaches get to sit in those seats, so you basically can just run out, find the lane and be right there, which is awesome, but they're. They pushed those halfway across the floor and then the actual competition floor was half the size and because of the amount of people that were there.
Speaker 2:It very much made it feel like like a true sporting event, like I think in those big arenas sometimes, when they don't have like you're not going to get 10 000 people to come to, something like that, like so pushing everybody into that space I thought was a really good idea. It was weird at first. We all walked in. We're like whoa, what is this? Um, but I think it was a, I think it was really smart.
Speaker 1:I think it ended up being how was overall attendance turned on the feed? A few times didn't look massive.
Speaker 2:It was so. So I mean, it was literally coaches, friends and family. I would say I don't know how many like fans were there, to be perfectly honest, but again, because they crammed everybody into a smaller section when the like battles were going on, it was, it was just better from like a spectator experience, that kind of thing. And then, uh, on the men's side, hunter um the winner, smith wins.
Speaker 1:All the short events can't beat in the long one.
Speaker 3:They uh, he's talking about hunter. Here's the the stands for last year.
Speaker 2:They were all the way at the end, yeah um, the winner won by three points, so one place and then second and third tied oh, luke, yeah and you're literally watching. So he was retiring anyways. I guess that was supposed that was going to be his last competition damn. Third, third, fourth, just that one first place finish yeah, jack got him because of the first place and isabel right yep, yeah, first and a second was his best, and then luke had a third and then ty jenkins is infamous for finishing the lunge workout with his foot on the line, so they're like would that have cost him one spot?
Speaker 2:so it would have been a three-way tie, that's how tight that was.
Speaker 1:It was cool too. That would have changed anything, though, because they're going into sunday morning there were four points separating four people total so like it was uh, it was jams, leaderboard yeah, and the women's, honestly, was similar from second down.
Speaker 2:Like there was a lot of changes over the course of that, for sure. And going back to the execution thing, those two higher skill workouts the rope climb workout and the handstand ramp workout like when you're in those positions you have to take chances. There's no point in going out there and like just not being able. So, like there were, there were a lot of moments where you could tell that, like especially in the rope climb one, there were people who were seconds away from like imploding. That had gotten way out to like a big lead at the beginning, which was interesting. And then the same thing on the on the handstand walk workout, seeing the girls that like we're like well, if I want a chance of qualifying for the games, I have to kick up now, but I'm probably not ready, like that kind of thing. Um, that was. That was pretty cool to see, for sure.
Speaker 1:Did you see any of the live stream hunter, any of the events? I was turned it on briefly in the when the women's women were going through regionals revenge, uh, lotto you saw erica murder everybody in that workout dude, that's crazy I don't know what's actually crazier.
Speaker 1:I mean to give for props, like for annihilating that workout, like taking a first place finish is huge. What's crazier to me is kyle's the one who told me that she was like yeah, erica crushed heavy isabel in four and a half minutes, which was faster than her online semifinals or testing, testing time, um, and took ninth. And I was like who the fuck, how the fuck, are there eight other women who are just blasting that workout?
Speaker 1:and he was like yeah, they've done it like 10 times now yeah, like the winner is like three and a half minutes and I was like, okay, well, we'll, just, we'll wait for the yoke, we'll see what eight by 400 does for for that person. But like, just to see some of those times and knowing how competent erica is with a barbell, is fucking wild yeah, the that was.
Speaker 2:That was one where it was like two decisions away from like a top five. Two for her. Yeah, because we switched, she did all power basically online and we went six. The six and the three to finish were squat um in this just because, like her accuracy at that point, which one did she?
Speaker 1:was it the last couple that she had a miss on, or she had?
Speaker 2:a miss on the final three. And what's funny is she's had a miss. She's done that workout four times now. She's had one miss every time and they've all come in weird places. Yep, but like one of the things I said to her that like we're very much like we'll, we'll get into this. We are very much working on the mental side and workout execution. Like if you watched her workout this weekend, it's very clear what her physical capacity is like. Like her time in training for regionals revenge was 22 20, which still would have beat everybody, and it was very bad execution. Like she was resting on her burpees. She would do burpees and then just be like I normally like burpees. Why are these so hard? Why does this suck so?
Speaker 1:bad. That's crazy, a full minute and a half ahead of Brooke, second place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, brooke tried a few times to catch her and then when Erica moved her barbell up the final time, brooke just stood there. She was like nah, no one's going to see any. Uh, I'm not any exceptionally poor strategies in that workout. Anybody win the? Uh, win the assault bike race. That was not supposed to echo or the echo bike race.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh dude, yes, 100 like one thing that was maybe broader question what, what, what percentage of the field would you say? Let's say the top half of the field. Now we'll say the whole thing top 20. What percentage of the top 20 strat did do you estimate? Does not know how to strategize that workout half of them 14 more than 14 of 20 do not know how to strategize that workout and they just kind of hang on their fitness to get through it.
Speaker 2:Here's like here's some insight into conversations that I either hear or have with people coaches. If you are the only one that has say in your athlete strategy, if you are making up a strategy based on, okay, this is the workout and every athlete should execute this way, or you're positive that your athlete should execute in a certain way and you haven't done testing and you haven't pushed them for input, I think there's going to be problems, Not only because you're not personalizing the strategy, but also because you're not taking into account, like when you put expectations on an athlete in that way, that develops more of a fear response, more of the flight response than the fight response.
Speaker 1:There's no ownership from the athlete.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the funny thing is that's really hard for Erica. She's like if you tell me exactly what to do in a workout, I will do it, and it happened a few times during like the open and online semifinals, where she had like a top five score in the world and I was like, whoa, it's like she's like a robot. I'm like, okay, do this, this and this. And she's like, okay, that sounds good. But when you have these like Win the crossfit games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, win the crossfit games. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2:Like when you have ones either that are more complicated or you have time to do testing, I'm throwing them to the wolves. I'm like I want a video. I will give you general guidelines. Let's essentially go fuck this up without expectations and then we'll come look at it. And she sent me regionals revenge and it said 2220. And I was like holy shit, like that's fast, like a lot of girls were basically taking about six minutes per section on average, so 2220. And then I watched the video and the burpees were. I'd never seen her burpee like that before. Like so, um, I was like damn, I think this could be. I think this could be a W.
Speaker 2:What I didn't know was that she was going to be literally be able to like we talked about the burpees being like like you're shutting your brain off and we're going to talk about your footwork and the way that you're going to drop down and you're going to do it a hundred times in a row and not really think. You're going to do it a hundred times in a row and not really think. And then in testing she was three or four sets on the barbell and I was like 13, 12. And then she wrote. She wrote down all of it on her arm, by the way. So her arm said 63 to 64 RPMs. You know 15, 10, 10, eight, eight, like it said all of them.
Speaker 2:And then on the last one it said 13, 12, 13, 10, eight, eight, like it said all of them. And then on the last one it said 13, 12, 13, 12, 13, 12, die. I was like she's writing exactly what I'm saying to her. Um, love that. So so yeah, I think I think that can be the a little bit of an issue with some of the coach athlete relationships and sometimes you don't have an opportunity to test and your athlete in the moment really just wants advice and I get that Like you need to be there to give them a good strategy when it's say, you're at the games and they have 30 minutes after the announcement, but in those moments you just get enough information during the testing that you can sort of put that stuff together thing. That you can sort of put that stuff together.
Speaker 1:Um, but yeah, that was one of the most dominating performances I've ever coached, for sure. That's awesome. Where then, we'll to? To just be blunt, to ask the question, what happened on metal March and athletes? Only, it's like she, she bracketed right Like a like a short, powerful workout with a long muscle overload piece and to like put bookends on either end of that in a pretty like a ninth and a first, going into the next day. And what I think third is what we said like where did is that a recovery thing? Like there's a midline component to that? Is it a strategy thing that neither of those are so long that there's like a massive strategy component? Where, would you say, is the like area to improve in those two?
Speaker 2:So this is my question to you for the like post topic, but we'll talk about it a little bit right now. We'll talk about it a little bit right now. Executing on a stage six times in a row requires a level of focus, a level of what do you want to call it mental fortitude, a level of confidence, sort of believing in yourself. Um, and I would say the double under rope climb, lunge was the hardest one for her execution. Wise, she got out there and the ropes were. They weighed significantly less than the ones that you typically have in a gym, than the ones that you typically have in a gym. So a lot of athletes, when you did your first pull, they were flopping, they were moving so easily that athletes were having a really tough time locking their feet in. So she was like they felt significantly different.
Speaker 1:Climbing okay, climbing rope.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I thought you meant, yeah, climbing the rope Now the double unders weren't really didn't seem to be a huge part of it for the elite, like it was.
Speaker 2:They were a problem and, and you know, heats one and two for a few people, um, but the climbing rope so like once that started to be an issue which actually in training and in the warm-up area, just like really had a like just excellent technique, um, we didn't see any issues like that coming and we had worked on fixing the lunges, which she did, um. But once it started to be a problem, out there on the floor you could tell that it was like, oh shit, here we go again, was like potentially the mentality. And then from there the biggest hurdle is like, can you rebound after that workout? Um, and then, uh, seb, do you want to show hunter? Do you have the clip? The clip so warm-up area, box, jump overs, lunge or ght setups flying over the ramp in both directions, no issues, like probably the best I've seen her go over the ramp, and then seb's gonna show you her first trip over the ramp how was the?
Speaker 1:well, while he's pulling that up, was there like, uh, so I guess you yeah. So you finish, come out of day one with a first place, finish confidence super high. You go into day two.
Speaker 2:Take 15th, not 14th, rather not you know, what's funny is is that was fourth place in the top heat. So, like part of her, like hey, stay with the second pack and then try to pass them like I mean that that workout got lower that workouts got probably the most.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't know the most, but like you you see a lot of like the top three, like third sixth place in that workout is 24th overall. Third place in that workout was 30th overall. Seventh place is 33rd overall.
Speaker 2:So very much a like yeah, you know, she moved up too. She moved into second place after that workout. She was in third and they won and then moved into second that's so weird after it was essentially a 14th because again, the top of the leaderboard was based on 50 of. It was based on isabel. So, like, can you run and lift? Of course, course. Brooke was basically the one who could run and lift for the most part.
Speaker 3:Yeah, All right, Hunter. Can you hear me Hunter?
Speaker 1:I can hear you yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to share my screen.
Speaker 1:First trip. First trip, that's very, very first one.
Speaker 3:After GHDs first trip.
Speaker 2:first trip after ghd's. After ghd's, brace yourself ah, don't like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, look at her running over the ramp back and forth in the warm-up area. Oh no, that's a scorpion, that is a full scorpion fuck don't like. I thought she broke her neck right there. Yeah, that's a scorpion, that is a full scorpion fuck don't like I thought she broke her neck right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's, I stopped shooting. I stopped shooting for a good minute.
Speaker 2:I couldn't look, she all right, that's one of those ones that like she has a red line on her head which I'm pretty sure is from the rubber, yet trying to yank her hair like the friction dude and that's just, I think frantic, like you're going down the stairs and you're trying to be too fast. She also came back, walked over and then biffed the first box jump what's the judge's reaction when she sees what happens?
Speaker 3:It's priceless.
Speaker 1:Started with a no rep call ended with like oh my God Look at Lydia fish.
Speaker 2:She almost took her out. That's Lydia trying to jump over her box. Yeah, Um.
Speaker 1:Okay, so a little shaken up. Presumably after that Biff a box jump, not. Yes, she practiced this one. Did she get at least a comparable setup? Did she have a ramp stairs?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she had the exact same setup at her gym, did it in about 9.20 or 9 30 in her gym and that was with like taking her time on the ramp, just because she wasn't sure what the what it was going to feel like yeah my goal for her was like 8 30 to 8, 45 roughly um, we had, I think, either three or four misses on the ramp.
Speaker 2:That'll, that'll do it, and they't. None of them were. Can I save this? Can I balance? I'm tipping over, I'm tipping forward. They were all like, honestly like the memes where Steve Buscemi shoots the gun from Billy Madison and snipes someone. They were just there was a frantic nature to the movement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna say is it like a like a shit. I'm falling behind. Rush a little bit, misstep a little bit. That workout requires just so much more almost, I don't say more focus than fitness, yeah, but like if you can do all those things honestly, that's exactly what we talked about.
Speaker 2:I was like none of this is going to be hard for you physically. You have to stay locked in mentally. Um, and then, so that was that. One was very much a like in the moment she rebounded and executed while this was happening, which is huge for her. Um, there are a lot of unfortunately a lot of narratives out there about her from literally people watching her do one competition when she was 23 yeah um, so we're trying to rewrite that shit.
Speaker 2:We're trying to like be like no, we get. We get to write our own story essentially. And then a huge one of the biggest moments of the whole weekend was so she fell out of the top heat, going into the final. She was not happy about that and she was at a crossroads of. Last year she was in 11th in the final and finished 17th. This year she went in 12th, finished 10th. So like, she went out there and took a top five finish in the final. And again, like, of like, like, really good execution. We knew that we needed to slow down the row and do two sets on the bar, muscle ups to be able to crush the sandbags a second time. Like and again. That's where some of that stuff just seems silly to watch, where you see an athlete do a touch and go.
Speaker 1:I fucking told you.
Speaker 2:Or go unbroken on a movement to then fall apart when they get back to the sand. What's the fucking point?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. So again, is your strategy as a coach? Are you strategizing with and for your athlete, for the workout, or you, like I want my athlete to qualify so bad that I'm going to tell them the first place strategy and if they do not execute on it then they're probably going to get five to ten places lower than they should. Yeah, and sometimes at the end you fucking send it because you want to go and you would rather send it and come in ninth than not and come in fourth.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, like that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:So I definitely get that part. But if the main focus, the main goal of an athlete is to execute on the floor, that has the tools, what are they supposed to work on? Especially if they don't have a remote coach, if they don't have someone there, it's like I don't understand why my testing scores are this, and then I get out on the floor and this happens. How do you learn how to execute? How do you learn how to not kick up with your hand on the line, to not, like lunge onto the line, to not, you know, change the way that you move while you're out there, like you're like? What advice could you give somebody on how to learn how to execute? Because it's a special thing, because a lot of the practice is in real time on the competition floor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, that's a good question. That's tough. I mean it, the, the. The first place that I would go to when I think about that is like. This is a somewhat I don't know if it originated in the military, but it's the idea that you don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training, when something, when you're executing a plan, like no good plan survives first contact with the, with the battlefield, like the reason these like cliches exist, but it's like you have to like the odds that you're going to go out there and have a 100, both you are going to both have a 100% plan and be able to execute it exactly as written as basically zero right, you have to go in with that kind of 70% plan, knowing that like very rarely do like, and I understand there's a difference between people who we talk about it, kind of the gamer, the athlete who crushes it in training but falls apart on the big stage, or vice versa, someone who just kind of mails it in in training or just doesn't, doesn't, who needs that competition in order to like bring the best out in them.
Speaker 1:Um, I still think like ultimately, at the end of the day, the like, the floor at which you might have to execute at some point in a competition. Rep is representative by your training. Um, and if it is like if, if it is a thing where it's like, well, I always, you know, I hand stand, walk and I start with my hand on the line, or or or, and I finished every set of lunges with my foot on the line it's like those are like that, like those specific instances are just mental errors in my opinion. That like just need to be trained and practiced and like this is not how, like we do it, and whether that's tricking an athlete into moving the moving the line, like three feet further away in training, or something like that, or you know, or whatever. It is like if your hand touches the line, you know you as a coach, maybe you game it. You say if your hand ever touches the line, it's a no rep.
Speaker 1:But I think the like, the overarching theme, is like you don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training. So you have. I think that and I think that's why having high standards in training is important. I remember, like a super long time ago I heard you might be sure you probably remember this like Chris Spieler talked about it. Um, in training, where he was like I'm willing to accept, like, if I'm like training, if I'm training like I might not squat below parallel, like I might get a I might like get have a handful of wall balls that are well above parallel I might. He's pushing adaptation, he's pushing at, he's exactly, he's pushing past threshold, he's exceeding his capacity there.
Speaker 1:But I think there are. So there are a lot of athletes who maybe toe that line too much and don't, like you have to competition, you are going to resort to the actions and the behaviors that you are most used to, which is, you know, 98% of your time is spent in training. And if you're training that way, then like don't be surprised when you, when your body, just kind of defaults to execution that way. But I think that those are like more specific nuts and bolts. And then I think, to answer like kind of another part of your question, it's like how many athletes are sitting down and looking at the workout and like actually cerebrally thinking about like well, what, like, how long does this 80 calorie assault bike take? Like what? And what do I know about myself and about the machine that that says like you know. No, you're not going to do this in four minutes. Like that's, it's ridiculous. Like you don't. You don't even do you know what pace you're supposed to hold. Do you know what number you're going to look at on the monitor and an athlete says, no, I just go by, feel it's like okay, that that can, that works to a certain extent and you need to have that intuition that you know three, four minutes into the bike you're like whatever plan that I had, this was not. This is actually not going to execute. I need to have the flexibility to adjust on the fly. But the ability to adjust on the fly implies that you had a plan going into it to begin with that you could adjust from. And I asked, I asked you at the beginning you know how many of the top 20 athletes you think like game the workout properly in your assessment is like, well, less than half of them knew how to and maybe they're just fit enough to like make that change on the fly. But I think like one, one of the most, like probably one of the most frustrating thing, not frustrating things, one of the most.
Speaker 1:Um, I think one of the ways that an athlete's mind can be put at ease is to have a plan. It's like when you go into that workout and not have a plan, like, there's no, like you can be, you can let your fitness carry you through. But I, my argument would just be like, well, if your fitness can be, you can let your fitness carry you through. But my argument would just be like, well, if your fitness can carry you through, how much better would you have finished if you also had a strategy to match your fitness? And it sounds like there aren't that many athletes who are thinking that way. And like, and you can make the argument that maybe that's not the athlete's job, there's the coach there. Like, and you can make the argument that maybe that's not the athlete's job, there's the coach there. But like you're saying, and I agree that like, that has to be a kind of a mutually agreed upon thing between the coach and the athlete. As far as how we're going to strategize this, based on you know your strengths and weaknesses as an athlete. And like, well, the fact that we're going into day two of a three-day competition, like how does your body feel after yesterday?
Speaker 1:Because even though you did those two workouts in training, you certainly didn't do them at the intensity that you've just executed, like, is the strategy that you had before still executable or do we need to? Like make an adjustment? And putting an athlete's mind at ease with a strategy that, like on paper, they're confident in that they can execute, but also having the flexibility to say, but hey, like, if you get 60 toes to bar into this workout and it's like we need to make an adjustment, like that's okay, that's acceptable, and you put the moment he's there that specific moment in that workout was when I knew what was about to happen, because our plan we had the first, it was 50, and then you moved up to the second bar in 50s.
Speaker 2:You kind of think about the strategy in that way. So the first 50 planned out and then the second 50 was sets of eight until you can't, and then descending sets. When she started breaking them up more, the other girls that were keeping up with her, aside from one or two, had their elbows on their knees when they came down from the pull-up bar. This is an insinuation that the, you know, maybe it was the echo bike or maybe it was. You know the, the total bar and the echo bike. You know, maybe it was the echo bike or maybe it was. You know the, the, the total bar and the echo bike. You know what I mean. But at that point in the workout, if you feel that way, the workout hasn't even started yet. Those two movements are a buy-in.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The second you flop down on the floor is when the workout starts. So I told her I said, listen, one extra set. So I told her I said, listen, one extra set, one set, two sets means nothing. And when she came down, every time, a whole minute like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So. So that was where it really felt that way and it's like we're not going to trade getting off the toes to bar for not being able to crush the burpees. We will not do that and you could tell. And if you don't have that plan, not only again could it be a problem because you're not executing properly, but then you could put yourself in that moment where coach said I got to stick with tens and I'm fucking gas dude, my grips going, my hip flexors are not there. And hey, turns out you got to push yourself off the ground and lift your hips up for a hundred reps before a hundred front squats. Um, so that's definitely a part of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the the execution piece for me is when you get back in the gym. You have to identify. You always have to identify what you're actually working on. Right, like as coaches, every once in a while you just get to work with an athlete who's like pretty damn well-rounded, and when they train they get fitter. Like some days they PR, some days they don't. Sometimes they need to deload just like everybody else, but like every year, it's like knocking a couple of seconds off this.
Speaker 2:These sets look smoother, like you get lucky sometimes with that, and when you know that and you know that execution is what's like we're after, then it becomes coach's notes that seem monotonous or silly, but like we're going to set the cones up for the lunges and if you stop between cones you got to move it back.
Speaker 2:Here we're actually going to tape lines on the ground and do that. We're going to no rep ourselves If we're doing sandbag cleans and you feel like you dropped it while you were still kind of moving around and not showing control. We're going to do sandbag cleans where you have to on the fifth one, not forget that you don't drop it, but you're going to carry it to the next box and throw it on the ground. We're going to no rep ourselves on, you know, handstand push-ups where we're floating on just things like that. Because if you identify what you're working on and you focus on stuff like that, then like you can get after it. And of course, you brought up the example of spieler, and I know a lot of athletes who execute way too damn well. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They move perfect and they do the sets that you ask them to and it's like, yeah, we did the sets, but like I actually attention to the field at all, like I went out and went to the bathroom and came back and you're still waiting to get that perfect set of seven that you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, that's not actually going out there and executing, so you have to know which thing you're working on. And then this other piece of this is something that we had some other athletes talk about at training camps back in the day and we've adopted a little bit but like, if you have, like, no, that's my pull-up bar, that's my barbell, I don't use that rope. I use this rope like the slippery rope. You know what I mean. I'm never using that one. This is legless and you're going to make me use that rope. That sort of thing. Like these shoes don't feel quite right. I forgot my wristbands. Like training, going out and training when it's not ideal, when it's hot out. You know, the first time you do muscle ups when you're sweaty and you like rip holes in your hands, like you know what I mean, like those summer muscle ups are real fun.
Speaker 2:Those things, yeah, in training allow you to adapt in the moment while you're out there, because the equipment will be different. Right, the the ramps were very different. A lot of people bought the more affordable ones from titan, I think, the one that we have and you have to, like, try to bolt that thing to the floor because it's gonna like you walk on, it's gonna like walk away four and a half pounds right, these ones are heavy and some athletes have ones that are a little squishier.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Some have some that are a little bit more firm and it's like get on different ramps, do different obstacles, go up over plates. You know what I mean? Fucking handstand, walk backwards, left turns, right turns, 180s, 360s, like. The skill of being upside down is broader than just. Can I, north and south, go over the exact same ramp in these same conditions every single time, doing a workout without chalk, like whatever it is. Putting yourself in those positions, I think, starts to give you a frame of mind for what it's like when, okay, we did have a plan, then I got punched in the face. Now, what, like? What am I going to do to be able to execute here?
Speaker 1:Yeah, or I think, and then the I was going to say the opposite is in like of that specific scenario. Is is important too. It's like I had a plan. I've actually trained and like worked on you know, in training I've and like worked on you know, in training I've I've not perfected, but I've, quote, perfected the like, the strategy component to it, the planning and the strategy.
Speaker 1:And then that that affords you the ability to look around, cause like once you get into competition, like we talk about it all the time, it's like it's not for time, it's, it's it's to beat the people like to your left and to your right, it's right, it's like you're not competing against the clock anymore, you're competing against the people that are out there and having like, having trained the strategy component, having trained enough of your fitness to know like, okay, maybe I do have a little bit more in the tank to dig when it's necessary, right, it's not in the 50, it's not in toes to bar 50 through 100.
Speaker 1:It's in the last 20 bar, facing burpees and then going to the barbell where it's like okay, like I know what the strategy was, but I am within three or four reps of like five people because I can like, actually, you know, while I'm competing I can actually look to my left and to my right and like, no, do I have something in the gas tank to try to find a couple of points, to try to get ahead of a couple of people who aren't maybe paying close attention or whatever.
Speaker 1:And I think all of that comes through the preparation, the training and like having practiced that ahead of time. That opens up the your ability to kind of look around and see like, okay, do I need to pick up my pay? Is my, is my strategy good enough to compete with the people that I'm against? Because, yeah, doing 10 sets of 10 with five seconds of rest in between sounds like a great plan. But it's like, with five seconds of rest in between sounds like a great plan. But it's like if that, if you finish the toes to bar three minutes behind everybody else, like it wasn't a great plan.
Speaker 2:You have to have the adaptability there there's still 12 minutes of burpees in front squats yeah, you know, that's like, that's terrible um, yeah, yeah, the, uh, the, the piece of it.
Speaker 2:That only other thing that comes to mind is maybe the spectrum of damage control. I don't think a lot of athletes have the experience to know what can and should happen when it's damage control time. So the far left of this spectrum is the coach telling them we're going out to survive, like we're going out to execute the shit out of 20th place. That's what we want to get. We want to get 20th right, because 20th is different than 30th, right that you get fucking more points for 20th. So if you're probably on most days, 25th in that workout but you're trying to get 10th, there's probably going to be an issue there. Then there's the to move into it a little bit. There's the moment in the workout where your execution turns it into a damage control workout, like realizing like I gotta fucking hunker down because this went from. I thought I was gonna get 12th to like if I don't get my head on straight, it's gonna be 40th, like that kind of thing yeah um, because you see it, you see the body language change.
Speaker 2:You see the, maybe the run from the, the rope back to the kettlebells. It just becomes a little bit slower, because it's like fucking really thought that this was gonna be like a top 10 for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm frustrated, I'm already. I already know what's gonna happen. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You have to know in those moments that you can refocus and, essentially, can you have a top 10 finish in the rest of the workout, Like that sort of thing? Can you? Can you get to that point? So that's something that's incredibly important. And then there's the world of like, and this doesn't happen that often, Um, but you know that you need to do like mediocre to hold your spot. That's a unique workout from a mental standpoint, because I'll tell you right now, we don't play fucking prevent defense right. We don't throw the safeties in the corners all the way back and let them do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2:Athletes don't do well in those moments Telling an athlete to go slow on a competition floor. Things will get fucking weird for them. So what does it look like to develop a strategy that let's say that the absolute best you could do in a workout is 10 minutes, but if you get 12 minutes you qualify, and if you get 14 minutes you don't like? What kind of strategy do you have? Going out there, okay, on the bar, muscle ups, is it two or three sets? Sounds like three. Now, right, A much better chance that I'm going to execute this properly with three sets of gymnastics going into this, that sort of thing. So there's a spectrum of knowing where you're at, going into the workout from a bunch of different points of view and then being able to adjust in the moment when you're out there, especially if you perceive a failed rep or people blowing by you to be like I'm fucked.
Speaker 1:I mean, in a lot of ways, the damage control is where, like, execution becomes even more important. Right, because it's like you hear that with other professional athletes all the time, and like, just because golf is front of mind for me, like I've been reading and listening to like a lot of the coaches out there, and it's like a lot of coaches will never tell a golfer like, oh, just like, ease up in your swing. It's like that's when things go wrong. It's like don't don't swing like softer than you normally would out of fear of a miss miss.
Speaker 1:because that's where, like the miss comes into play even more and in the same, in a similar vein. It's like when you uh, when you know, like, don't allow one single error to become two, like you hit a bad shot, you execute a part of a workout poorly, that doesn't mean the next decision you make needs to compensate for the bad decision, because odds are, that is a second, don't make a second. The worst thing you can do after one mistake is to compound it and make it a second poor mistake, instead of refocusing, saying that didn't go the way that I wanted. But if I make a smart decision here, if I make a smart decision here, if I'm like a smart play here, I can still. You know, maybe it's not 10th, but it's also not 35th, you know, it's like, okay, I can, I can salvage a little bit here, and being able to recognize that in the moment, instead of, like you know, the body language changes and it's like, okay, well, I need to knock this next one out of the park, it's like, well, no, if, if, maybe. Instead, like when things went wrong in that, whatever the first workout was, instead of saying like, well, now the entire event is tanked, it's like, well, I could just adjust, recognize that maybe this isn't going to go as well as I hoped it would, but I can still make it better than it could be. And like you come out and it turns out like you only took, you know you lost. You left 10 points on the table as opposed to 25. And that's a huge.
Speaker 1:That's a difficult place to be as an athlete where, especially in the moment when things aren't going well, it's so difficult to like, with the clock running, with people, other people moving, to step back and say like, okay, like I can adjust the strategy, I can still salvage, you know, a respectable score time, effort, whatever it is, um and like, ultimately, you don't know, you don't know how it could have turned out otherwise.
Speaker 1:Right, it's not like you can, you can play both scenarios at the same time and see like, oh, if I had just, you know, put my head down and actually worked, then I would have, you know, been five places higher than I actually would have. You don't know that, but you just have to know. You have to know that, like, compounding one bad one error, one strategic you know mistake with another is guaranteed to to to be a worse outcome than like okay, I made one mistake, let me adjust on the fly and like, okay, now, this outcome is not what I wanted, but it's certainly better than it would have been if I just kind of like hung my head and just and mailed in the rest of the event, or whatever the scenario happens to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the. I think of and I explained the, the sympathetic nervous system, as a coin fight on one side, flight on the other side, and they, they're, they're like, you know they're right there, they're the same thing. They're kissing cousins or whatever you want to call them Like. And for me, my history with that is I playing baseball like being on the pitcher's mound and the results of most at bats when I was pitching were strikeout walk or hit by pitch walk or hit by pitch um people didn't I. I hit people just as much as they hit me um. And those moments where the bases are low, you walk the bases loaded and there's no outs um like.
Speaker 2:sometimes it's like damn, like I'd pay good money to feel this alive and other times it's like like we were up four runs or something like that, and that could you know, if I don't get my shit together and I groove one down the middle and this goes into the gap, base is clear and it's four to three, like that kind of thing. And it was brutal in that sport because every single person stares at you for eight out of 10 seconds. Yep, person stares at you for eight out of 10 seconds. You're the only thing happening on the entire field in those moments. But I can just think back to the moments where it was like, okay, well, based on the fact that I either walk people or strike them out, I have a pretty good chance of striking this person out and not having to kind of deal with this shit, but that mindset, the only options yeah.
Speaker 2:These are the only options. If I can go with this one like that sounds like a good idea. Sometimes I did walk them or hit them, but that just reminds me so much of that choice of being there, like and that's. I think that's why I liked football more, because once you get the ball there is like you, you fall to the, you know the level of your training where you want to say, but you can really think about it, like, of course you're like whatever reading a defense or whatever, but like you don't actually think about it. It was just you wait, you're like whatever reading a defense or whatever, but like you don't actually think about it. It was just you wait, you wait, you wait, boom, and then you go Right, it's like this, like huge thing, but yeah, that understanding that world and knowing like, that's why I told, I told all of our athletes for Isabel, like this is the perfect event one like event one and adrenaline and if it's long, don't mix very well. Right, you really got to be seasoned, you really got to know what you're doing, to go out and execute.
Speaker 2:When you're coming off a taper, your carb loading, your heart rate is just like your heart, is like up here in your jaw while you're standing in the corral, and then you're going to go out there. But then it's three, two, one go and you're doing snatch singles, fuck yeah, like that's perfect, like that's the perfect one to have. But in the corral, in the moments as you're stepping up to it, is it like adrenaline's a hell of a drug, let's go lift some weights. Or is it like fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I'm here. I'm here, it's starting, it's going, it's happening. Am I gonna be able to do this? And it's the exact same feeling from a biological, physiological standpoint.
Speaker 2:But again, it says fight or flight, and that is a very real thing. Like you lean into the challenge, or do you back away from the challenge and for for the people out there, I recommend leaning into it because the flight version of it sucks. It doesn't feel good, not a not a fun thing to experience. Well, we've been yapping for an hour and 10 minutes. Um, I think, after travel day, late night, that's what my brain is capable of giving out to the listeners. We have any final thoughts, gentlemen? Fuck Amazon, demonetized, demonetized, yeah, since Hunter started his no congrats to the misfits.
Speaker 2:Uh, we didn't touch on lindsey, and be true, too much in this one but, uh, I'd like to, I'd like to get them, I'd like to get them on the show. I, uh, I, I did more than I normally do. I don't like talking about the athletes without them here. It just feels weird and different. But we're about to release a youtube video with a lot of the shit that I just said. Um, you know, with with erica actually sitting there with us, um, but it will be fun to to catch up with them, because there were some like I'm not as intimately like connected on a day-to-day basis with with lindsey, but there were some serious breakthroughs, and when you see someone train hard for a year or two or more and then they go out there and feel like they belong, it's pretty fucking cool. So that's a little bit of a teaser for those episodes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a couple all right, did we do it?
Speaker 2:what's that? Yeah, we did it cool. Thank you for tuning into another episode of the misfit podcast. You can head to link in bio and get signed up for our programming, either on strivy or fitter, or you can headmisfitcom, click on the sign up now button and then get a two week free trial of our affiliate programming from PushPress, sugarwad or StreamFit. See you next week.