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Building Athlete IQ: What is it. How do you develop it. How is it different for coaches and athletes at all levels. - E.377
A stronger engine won’t save a weak strategy. We unpack the Athlete IQ triangle—mind, body, and experience—and show how smarter decisions, realistic expectations, and consistent recovery convert raw fitness into reliable performance. We start with the mind: maturity built from tiny habits, patience to trust the timeline, expectations that stretch without delusion, and dedication that actually fits your life. If the goal demands three hours of training and nine hours of sleep, we talk about how to close that gap or change the horizon, and how a supportive circle makes the heavy lift possible.
Experience is your competitive edge. We turn daily training into data by tracking warm-ups that unlock better bar speed, pacing that holds under fatigue, and break points that save your grip. You’ll learn to spot patterns from CrossFit history and apply the OODA loop—observe, orient, decide, act—to make mid-workout adjustments that outpace your rivals. When you iterate faster, you win the quiet battles that decide the leaderboard: transitions, sustainable splits, and efficient movement choices.
Body is where belief meets stimulus. GPP expands the ceiling, strength lowers effort at the same output, and skill practice sharpens neurological efficiency under fatigue. Then we zoom into the other 23 hours: sleep, food, and downtime that create supercompensation. If you’re always on, you’re never fully on—turning it off is a performance skill. We close with a coach–athlete pact: both sides go as far as the other. When commitment is matched and the triangle stays in balance, results compound week after week.
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Good morning, Misfits. You are tuning in to another episode of the Misfit Podcast. On today's episode, we are taking that deep dive once again into the pool, into the deep end of athlete IQ. What does it mean? How do you develop it? How should you think about it if you're a coach? What does that coach-athlete relationship look like when we're trying to develop athlete IQ? Before that, some housekeeping. Um, wow, this is really, this is weird. There's like an echo in this room. It's fucking with me a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you can't hear it a tiny bit. Literal housekeeping. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There's a little, yeah, well, we'll explain what's going on here, people. Let's see. I'm gonna click echo cancellation. This cannot be changed while recording. Beautiful. All right. This episode of the podcast is brought to you by, and honestly, my drive across the country is brought to you by Gorilla Mind Energy Drink. My favorite product from them, or at least currently at the moment, after allowing myself to have one per day. I could have gotten a little squirrely if I had two per day. One per day on the drive. So noticed we have like a like a portal for our sponsorship. And I noticed a bunch of orders, you know, with our code coming in last week. First and foremost, that's one way for you guys to support us and support the podcast. So that's really cool. But secondly, I want to know what you guys think of the products, especially if anybody bought the intra. I still haven't ordered that. I gotta order that. Um, it's got carbs, sodium, and uh creatine. And uh it's Black Friday sale right now, and everything in the store is either 20, 30, or 40% off. And if you use the code use the code word misfit, you get an additional 10% off. So we kind of have like this perfect trial period for you guys to try this thing out and let me know what you think of their products. But I'm a huge fan, told a way too long story about getting the sponsorship last week on the podcast. But uh go check everything out. I definitely recommend the energy drink if you are. I would say podcast type thing, like anything where you really need to be able to focus mentally, but then also really big for like I found it awesome for longer bike rides, like just kind of staying locked in mentally on aerobic type work. So gorilla mind.com forward slash misfit, or just go to GorillaMind and use the code VIT. You're gonna save 10% and you're gonna get 20, 30, or 40% off. I think through maybe Monday next week. Housekeeping, the next episode of this podcast is going to be for the Winjaru. Winjiru, I should look up the pronunciation before that podcast. Misfit affiliate phase. So Hunter and I will go into everything there. And it's perfect timing to jump in on the free trial to be able to see the beginning of all that and sort of get an understanding for your affiliate, what everything looks like, how we deliver information, what the documents look like. I personally would never recommend someone, you know, Sunday night of Winjaru logging in and doing that. So that's one of the reasons why we keep the two-week free trial year round. Because even if you wanted to start in two weeks, I really like someone, you know, familiarizing this with themselves, emailing me, talking to us on Telegram, all that good stuff.
SPEAKER_01:So teambisfit.com, click on the sign up now button, you get two weeks for and that uh that that month, the entire month of December is one, it's available if you're a subscriber, but two, if you're thinking about it, it's always a lot easier for you, your coaching staff, your members, to have an idea of what that looks like before you start. It's like uh, yeah, the eighth is day one, but like that's probably not the day to switch over unless you've already taken a look at it.
SPEAKER_02:That's worthy of a that's worth worthy of a coach's meeting for sure, sitting down and going over stuff and asking your questions and all that good stuff. And if you would like to see the PDF version instead of being on Sugarwad, Stream Fit or Push Press, just shoot me an email, coach at missfitathletics.com. I'll get you a two-week sample. We're in the throes of of phase two, seeing some some really good notes from the athletes and telegram already, which is awesome. Uh link in bio to sign up on Fitter or Strive V. Yeah, live chat. So if you're watching on YouTube or you're or you're listening and you hear an echo, I'll fix that. Don't worry. I am in Colorado. If you missed last week's episode, I moved to Grand Junction, Colorado, drove across the country, survived on uh Girl in Mind Energy Drinks, meat sticks and cheese sticks.
SPEAKER_01:There might have been a chip or two, but fucking Hank must have been stoked about the diet. Let's talk about Hank on the trip.
SPEAKER_02:He would not eat. He would not eat any of his dinner. He had plenty of meat and cheese, don't worry. He's just full. He did not pee for 48 hours. He was so scared every time I got him out of the car that I was gonna leave him that he did not pee for two days. And then he pissed.
SPEAKER_01:Doesn't even make sense, Hank.
SPEAKER_02:As God intended. Why is he moving around so much? And then I was like, what is that? So he peed all over his bed. Maybe he pee. Did he pee at the no, I it was the La Quinta that he peed all over the bed. That's a good boy. Listen, they tried to.
SPEAKER_01:Is it the same La Quinta that we fucking stayed at in uh in Philly?
SPEAKER_02:Was it no? Where where was I? North Platte, Nebraska. So I'm guessing. Yeah, you were. Yeah, not a lot of people were there or have been to North Platte, Nebraska. That was part of how I had to figure out the drive. Is I will say though, where you were stopping. Literally on the highway, click the button. I'm at mile marker 480. I'm probably gonna drive for another hour or two. Can you find me a pet friendly hotel that's right off of I-80? And within five seconds, listed out the towns, what ChatGPT did that? Yeah, like voice. Wow. Yeah. I was very impressed. That's super impressive. Because there's like my parents use something, I don't even know. Bring Fido, Fido something. They written some kind of app that tells you about that stuff. But luckily, there's a lot more hotels now that are that are friendly with that stuff. So I don't think any of the trillions of dollars we've spent on infrastructure has made it to Ohio in the last 30 years. That highway is terrifying. It's like 80. This is either 90 or 80. They kind of blend together a little bit. But you're driving across Ohio, and the two outside lanes are concrete basically, with like you can see like grass growing out of the cracks. And then the middle is old asphalt. And like while you're driving, you're positive your tire is going to explode. It's just like boom.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it's almost the whole state. When you cross in, it starts. And when you get into, I think it's Indiana, it's like perfect. This is like what is that's the Ohio.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's the Ohio I had in my head when I was like Masters CrossFit Games, Columbus, Ohio. I was in that Ohio. Yeah, no. See, Columbus is a atrocious representation of Ohio in like the opposite good way. It's like this is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_02:I always thought it was cool driving through Cleveland because like you're on the lake and there's like the baseball stadium. You basically feel like you're driving through a city. Yeah, Ohio, you got some problems. And then Nebraska, the speed limit goes up to 75, and people drive side by side at like 65. Dude, I didn't like it's not like as bad as my road rage as a teenager, but it was I would drive by slowly and just be like, hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah. Where are you going right now? And then I crossed over into Colorado, and it was like I'm getting I'm doing 90 and I'm getting passed by people. And I'm like, yes, I'm home. I'm home.
unknown:Let's go.
SPEAKER_02:That's great. I got so lucky too. Mountain pass, basically no traffic, no weather. So nice. That's okay. Just cruised right through. And then, story of the week. Yesterday, I get washer and dryer delivered from the Geek Squad from Best Buy. The literal Geek Squad. The Geek Squad. Big truck that just says Geek Squad on the side. And Hank would not approve security clearance for the two gentlemen.
SPEAKER_01:Understood.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah. So I closed the door to the laundry room and created a barricade with a bunch of chairs. Because if you don't, he'll crawl. He'll he'll make his way through the chairs. You gotta really. He's tactical. So I'm working on my computer and I hear one of them start screaming. And not like, ouch, something's wrong, but like something is very, very wrong. And then I hear, sir, sir, sir. So I'm like, oh, they're clearly talking to me.
SPEAKER_01:And then I think clearly talking to Hank, got it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the guy. Yeah, for real. Can we please stay here without you barking? And I'm trying to climb over the chairs, like, you know, with a little bit of a barricade you just created. Yeah. Slow as smooth, smooth as fast was not happening. And he's like, Jay, oh my god, Jay, are you okay? What's happening? And I'm like, oh my God. So I open the door. Gentleman is having a full-blown seizure. Like one that I've never seen before. Whole body convulsions, stuff coming out of his mouth. Like it was crazy. Wow, fuck. So I called 911 and I'm on the phone with them for probably 10, 12 minutes. While this, like he he probably had a seizure for like three minutes and then was asleep. All right. Head just down. And his friend was like trying to talk to him and they were asking me about his breathing and all that stuff. Then they came and got him, but the ambulance took him to the hospital. But like, dude.
SPEAKER_01:God damn.
SPEAKER_02:And it's funny too, because like the neighbors were texting my landlord already, like, whose jeep is in the driveway? And then they were texting, like, is some is he okay? Like, there's a there are fire trucks and ambulance at the house.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, fucking new guy here bringing in all kinds of trouble.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so that was a crazy way to start my first full day.
SPEAKER_01:Gonna have to bring some gorilla mind over to the neighbors as a peace offering.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, that was it was crazy. And it's funny too, because there's a lot of like older people. So, like, even though it was Monday, they were home and they were doing the thing where like they were pretending to walk their dogs or like take out the trash and you know, kind of peek in the middle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That was he alright? I mean, I guess I doubt you got updates from the Geek Squad, but he was coherent when they took him.
SPEAKER_02:He was still very confused.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I honestly have some experience with this with dogs, and it seems to be kinda similar. Like Hank's got epilepsies. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. What a fucking trip. I totally thought you were gonna be like hanky fucking turning turning one of them into a chew toy, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just fucking that sucks.
SPEAKER_01:That's bad.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that was it was an experience.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What you got? You gonna top that?
SPEAKER_01:That no, uh definitely not. The sauna broke, so that was like just kind of standard. Yep. So my problem for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Small business ownership, just rights of passage, just yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, I was like, honestly, like if that's the thing for right now, like I can tolerate that. I'll I'll probably need to knock on wood to that something else doesn't explode in the next like every day.
SPEAKER_02:Something happens though, you get more desensitized to it. You realize that you just have to find a solution. Because like I remember being young and things happen to baby.
SPEAKER_01:Just um, yep. So that's the small business owner update. Sauna broke with two members in it, which is nice. Nick Christina, I'm sorry. Um yeah, man, not uh not a whole lot. Golf season's winding down. I will give the people what they certainly want and ask for, which is the uh end of year synopsis with some stats. Give them give that to them next year or next week, I mean, but okay. Yeah, no. It's it still sucks over here. You're not missing much. It's fucking it's fall. Yeah, what do you what's the this is funny.
SPEAKER_02:This is really funny. Although looking at the case.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, high what's the high low?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, come on. It went away. It's gone. There was a cold front coming through, and it was gonna be a low of twelve and thirteen and a high of like twenty-five. But it's not in the it's not in the app anymore. So I guess it's not coming through.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Yep. Uh otherwise I'll take the truck down to New York City tomorrow, so I'll get my my cross country equivalent. Yep. Main to New York, basically cross-country, but leaving earlier this year than last year, which is good. So God willing, we'll arrive.
SPEAKER_02:With m I went to the airport to pick up my uh Carter and my sister last night, and getting on the highway was like, oh, this is weird. We're we're back. Yeah. Hank by my side, like, here we go again. And then it was like three minutes on the highway, and it was nice to get off.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. So they made it fine, obviously. Yep, they made it fine.
SPEAKER_02:The reports were that he sang old McDonald's for the whole flight from Denver to Junction, which is like 45 minutes. Okay. And he was getting delirious, so it just shortened to old McDonald's out of harm. Just looped. And he was looking squirrely when I picked him up last night. He was saying some stuff to me, like he was out of it. He was completely 10 30 or so East Coast time and no nap. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Big boy time.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, but he survived, and probably more importantly, his mom survived. So all is well.
SPEAKER_01:Nice. No, no need to neither of you guys you guys are nothing back here. Like everything has been a truck somewhere between Maine and Colorado.
SPEAKER_02:I'll save that story for next week. Okay. I don't have it in me to get mad about that right now.
SPEAKER_01:So I understand.
SPEAKER_02:Here's here's what I'll say. There's no I don't have any of my lights. I don't have my microphone. I do have this one, so hopefully it sounds decent. My tripod is in a sink behind me.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:We're we're making it work for now. Okay. But I would like to have my stuff.
SPEAKER_01:That would be cool. Okay. Um when you bumped your camera, you got a little bit blurry. FY, you were clear a split second ago. He's back. All right. There you go.
SPEAKER_02:Let's let's let's share the screen here.
SPEAKER_01:Enhanced your microphone too. Share Bob and Weave.
SPEAKER_02:Screen.
SPEAKER_01:Hey.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Here we go. So we have the athlete IQ triangle up on the screen right now. And it's funny because we've talked about what goes on top, what goes on bottom, whether the point is at the top or the bottom, what order it goes in, all that good stuff. Luckily, I have some handy dandy arrows here that point in both directions because a lot of this is about what you need to work on, what you need to improve on. And then you just continue around the circle back and forth. Um, so the three points of the triangle are mind, body, and experience. And then we have some subheaders that we'll get into related to each one of those things. Um, but I want to start by I don't know if definition is necessary, but like what is currently in your head about an explanation of what this is at a macro level. Um, and then we can decide kind of where to start. So, what comes to mind for you as a coach, for an athlete, for a coach, wherever you want to take it when we say athlete IQ?
SPEAKER_01:When we say athlete IQ or this specific thing, I'll I guess I'll I'll answer both. I think the athlete IQ is essentially like, I don't think I'm gonna blow anybody's brain out the back of their skull with this, but essentially the the consolidation of everything that you know about yourself and your capabilities and how you can apply it to training or competition. From a coach perspective, I being not like the most uniquely creative person, I see this as like the theoretical development of the hierarchy of an athlete type thing from like a competitive side, right? So in CrossFit, like nutrition being the foundation and up the ladder for this, this like could very much break down into like the the development of a competitive athlete, right? The hierarchy uh maybe reorganized a little bit, but the the combination of the mind-body experience obviously creates that, like I guess the athlete IQ brain.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah.
SPEAKER_02:When I think about it from an athlete perspective, I've just dealt with this a lot, and again, very recently. If you don't want to have a deep understanding of how all of this works, you're not going to be as successful as someone that is as fit as you and as skilled as you and as strong as you, that does. And it's almost like we have mind-body experience, we have all of this stuff, and and what I'm talking about does fit into one. But if we rise all the way above it, above it and just look at, you know, the wording of athlete IQ, it's like that student of the game concept. And that applies to athletes and coaches, right? Like as a coach, you're always taking in those new experiences, you're maturing as a human being and trying to potentially pass on some lessons to another person. I believe that you need to have some skin in the game when it comes to body, right? Like, you got to know what's going out, going on out on the floor. Like, you need to be the kind of coach that does go out and like rip on an Echo bike randomly while they're programming, like for X amount of calories, to be like, all right, it's this one or it's this one when you're on the fence. You know, you you're practicing the accessory work that you're programming just enough in it and you and knowing how skill development works on a personal level, what recovery protocols actually move the needle, whether it's we're at the affiliate level and it's just teaching, like, hey guys, we really need to be good about sleep. We're gonna pay close attention to the way that we eat, we're not gonna watch, you know, we're not gonna have the phone in our face when we're in bed, things like that. And then GPP is almost like it's not unexplainable. It makes perfect sense to me that you would be stronger if you were fitter and you'd be fitter if you were stronger. You know what I mean? Like it makes sense. But the alchemy of GPP, this magical thing that we've kind of found in the CrossFit space that I don't think anyone has found before, you have to experience it in my in my estimation to like really believe in it. So again, just going through and developing your fitness level, developing your strength, working on a skill, and it doesn't matter what the skill is. Like, you know, if we dumbed it down to, you know, you and Kyle working on your golf swing, you're understanding the component parts of how to break something down, you're understanding, you know, you guys film yourselves or, you know, have a coach watch you. Like it doesn't matter what the skill is, it doesn't matter what the strength movement is, it doesn't matter what, like if you're into, you know, sprints or I love a cube test or I like to do zone two work, but just understanding that stuff on a personal level, I think is is incredibly powerful.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think what you said at the beginning, the smarter athlete is going to be the, you know, likely the more successful, at least in the long run. There's certainly a place for turning off your brain and just letting it rip. But to me, like the the the fit at the smartest athlete has the ability to do that, right? We've seen athletes who are maybe too smart for their own good in such a way that it's detrimental. They either know, for example, maybe how badly something's going to hurt, and they can therefore like calibrate themselves to not reach that place, or um, you know, they're just overthinking so much to take your golf swing analogy, right? It's the equivalent of me, hey, I'll like, yep, and in the gym or in the in a simulator working on a very, very specific skill, but then going out on the course and trying to think about that exact same thing every single swing I make while I'm also trying to score well. It's the equivalent of, you know, you're out on the competition floor, it's a one rep max snatch, and it's just like, okay, as long as I keep my weight balanced over my forefoot and then I pull and I sweep the bar into my hip and I've got the weight in my heels and I keep the heels down, but I also need to extend upward, it's like, why you like it's too much, right? And in that instance, it's like that's a that's a that detracts from your ability as an athlete. So just kind of remembering that like the mind-body experience elements kind of come together to create like the literal term, like into your your athlete intelligence quotient. Like, are you actually thinking about these things? Are you applying them? Are you trying to learn? And like you kind of alluded to in the example you gave with skill, it's like it doesn't necess to me, it doesn't necessarily matter as much. Like, hey, are we driving home this one working like our ass off on this one very specific skill for a long period of time? Are we broadly applying this kind of skill-based mindset to lots of things every time we go out there if from in training? That's less relevant than the fact that as an athlete who's trying to get better, you're actually thinking about these things when it's time to think about them, like in training, like in skill sessions. And then you also know when it's time to turn that off and say, like, okay, here we're we're no longer training, we are testing, we're competing, whatever. It's like it's the by any means necessary approach where there's a little bit less, let's say, I and a little bit more, a little bit less IQ and a little bit more athlete.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure. And the way that I explain bridging that gap to athletes who struggle with it is you need to be able to coach yourself in low stakes environments. And low stakes could be we're as far away from the season starting as possible. Low stakes could be warm-up, cool down, recovery, a zone two session. So intensity could be a little bit lower. And that's when you can start to add on. You don't, you know, the linear progression of building yourself up as a student of the game should start from a very simple place because then you can create that bridge in their mind of, hey, you already know all of this stuff. All I'm asking you to do is to start to add to it. And we'll do it slowly, you know, and we'll do it through remote coaching notes and things of that nature. Like, but if you're not open-minded about it, if you're not open to the idea, if it's I just prefer a coach to tell me what to do every second, then again, it's just doable, but it's not going to be as good as someone, again, who's in the same position as you that thinks about it in a different way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Um, I'll let you I'll let you do the honors here. Where does this start? Or where would you like to start? Because it doesn't really start anywhere.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't start anywhere. I I do I was thinking about that. I figured that question would come up. Like, let's if again I'll I'll think about it from the like the CrossFit pyramid sort of thing. So it's an actual pyramid. And at the base, in my experience, in my mind is the mind element. It's like you can have like a tremendous level of experience, you can have, you can be extremely fit from a numbers perspective, but like at the foundation, if your brain isn't in it, whether it's hey, I I, you know, I'm I I have all the tools, but I'm not interested in competing. I have all the tools and a lot of experience, but I tend to get in my own way. I'm, you know, I'm too smart for my own good. I'm not smart, I'm too much of an athlete for my own good. I think like the experience and the physical capabilities, like the only way that those line up and come together is if your your brain can kind of pull them together. So if I were to, you know, if I'm if I'm in charge of this design, you know, I might put it at the base. How you put the base as the flat side, like you can't, it's it's a point. So like yeah, you can't do it.
SPEAKER_02:But I should turn it even more so that it's like not like a 45.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and you and like you know, like I think probably both of us would rather work with given the choice between an athlete who has like a real desire to get better and learn, but has a low, you know, they snatch 95 pounds, they like they don't have ring muscle ups yet. That might be an extreme example, but you have, but this person really wants to get better and they're willing to do what it takes, and they have that kind of like the right mindset, so to speak. That athlete is in the long run going to be far more successful than the, you know, hey, I've been to the CrossFit games three times. Like, there's obviously an element of experience and and like physical capability, but yeah, like I'll I'll listen to you sometimes, but like I I think I know what's best here. It's like, yeah, I know you're trying to teach me how to climb rope, but like my way I think is a little bit better. So it's like, okay, like congratulate. I can only do so much for that athlete. And they're also just not that's not particularly fun to work with as a coach, right? It's like, what the fuck am I doing here? Uh if you if you know so much, like why, why are you paying a coach? So I think just like as an athlete, like you have to understand that too. And I I I have to imagine a lot of coaches are like that, but I'm sure there are some who would happily work with like somebody who's low, you know, who's just like, yeah, I'm just gonna do it, and you can call me uh you can call me your coach, and that's good for me and good for you, and whatever.
SPEAKER_02:But for the most part, that's a young man's game, what you're describing there. And and honestly, what's complicated about my job and not just my job as a coach, but my job as a business owner, because like the reason I get so pumped about going on to like Telegram is because there's this group of like a dozen or so athletes that are super active in there. And you can just see the athlete IQ, you can see the buy-in, you can see the buy-in to the community. And like those are the athletes that I like feel proud, like if they go to a competition, they're wearing a misfit t-shirt.
SPEAKER_01:I am much more regardless of where they finish, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I'm drawn to those people and want to help those people significantly more than a very high-level athlete where we don't have, and honestly, I can put it in the perspective of just listen to the rest of the episode. Like if you're not on board for this, and my patience for that gets lower and lower and lower as I go on. And it's just like, hey, I work with top 10 CrossFit Games athletes, and I help people on the GPP program and everywhere in between. And the common denominator of whether I'm like bought in to helping you, whether you're giving us 20 bucks a month or you know,$400 a month for remote coaching, is you know, your attitude and your coachability and things of that nature. Like that's what I'm drawn to and that's what I get excited about. So gone are the days of like some random walking into the gym and like doing a muscle up and being like, oh my god, amazing. It's like, yeah, I don't really care. Oops. Yep. We had I uh did a command F last week and we went from one F word to 18.
SPEAKER_01:That really makes me wonder what the count was like three weeks back and before we yeah, can I do a chart? We should do that next week. I'm gonna give everybody my golf stats for the year, and you can give everybody the the fucking clucking clucking the swear stats for uh that's a great distraction. Like I have too many things to do over the next week. Let me do this all of the times we have all of the swears in the last bit of the podcast and average them out. All right. You could put command F that and then just toss all that those stats into chat GPT. Get them to do a quick, nice, quick regression analysis. Hmm.
SPEAKER_02:We peek on F words when the I would like to see if it's like a correlation between like winter sucks or like it's during the open, or like what time of year does it?
SPEAKER_01:It's a phase podcast. It's a like yeah, yeah. That would be all right. Yeah, figured out.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna put you, I'm gonna put you on the spot again, but only because you coined one of my favorite terms and concepts. We actually talked about it recently. One of our podcasts that we did. So the subheadings for mind are maturity, patience, expectations, dedication, and life. And when we talked about maturity, you talked about it as just a thing and a concept that didn't really cross my mind. And now it's the only thing that comes to mind, really, when I think about maturity, and that's the idea of the maturity meter. I don't know how much of it that you remember. If you want like a little overview.
SPEAKER_01:If you if you have the brief overview, you could jog the memory and I can run my mouth on it for a second. I do remember it, but it's been a minute.
SPEAKER_02:So it's not this massive thing, like, you know, I'm a I used to be an impulsive teenager, and now all of a sudden I need to snap my fingers and be stoic. It was like as an athlete specifically, and honestly, I think in life, stacking these little things, this linear progression mindset, and then all of a sudden you become more mature.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, I think it's the yeah, I was thinking like the tiny habits. And I think it's like it's the same idea as the concept that you have might have with like in my world for the affiliate athlete, where it's like, hey, I want to, I I want to improve my health, my fitness. I actually had a, this might be a good example, is that I had a member text me and basically was saying, like, hey, my doctor's letting me know that I have a couple of a couple of butt blood markers that are elevated out of whack. And it's actually like, this is the time that it's making me nervous. It's like, fuck, I need to do this. The follow up question to that was pretty interesting. It was, would I be better? better off doing one additional zone two day per week or one weightlifting day. It's like, so I have I'm I'm lacking this area, my health markers are not well, what's more beneficial? Zone two or weightlifting? And I'm like, it's the wrong it's it's the wrong question for sure. It's the wrong question. And it like when you have those conversations, it becomes like, hey, let's we're just gonna start to move one thing from the bad bucket to the good bucket. It's like, can we track like, and and we break you can break it down as far as you need to in order to make this seem like we're moving things in the right direction. It's like can you track your food for a day? Can you eat one meal that has protein? And this goes to the like, hey, you're always only one meal away from getting your diet right back on track, right? You're only one training session away from getting back into the routine of working out. And it becomes all of these little, little small decisions that ultimately like what what you were saying is is like these seemingly small decisions will eventually add up and kind of get me to where I want to go. And just kind of by nature that demonstrates a level of maturity in which like, okay, I have this broader goal. There's a whole shitload of things that I can and should do in order to move the needle in that direction, but understand that you can't do all of them at once. And like that's just also like you're probably setting yourself up for failure if you're trying to do too many things at once. You just need to start get the snowball, get the momentum going, get a little snowball that starts rolling downhill and all of a sudden it becomes really, really easy to pick up additional good habits along the way. And oh by the way, like with the more habits, it's an exponential curve, right? It's like these small little things don't seem to be making a difference for a little while until you hit that kind of inflection point where it's like shit like actually now I'm starting to see all of this kind of come together. I just needed to trust this process a little bit. And in that in and of itself is a level of maturity, right? Kind of the the faith that what I do right now is will eventually result in the, you know, or will eventually create the result that I'm after. But I have to have some faith that just because it doesn't show itself right here, right now, that doesn't mean it's not working. And for people trying to find that example in their life, it's like, how many times have you had a great training phase where you're snatching or you're clean or your back squat felt really good and one retmax test day comes and it's like I tied my old PR. I was 10 pounds under like what happened? And as the coach, that's where it's like, hey man, just like it's not like just because you didn't PR on that one day that the entire nine weeks before that were a waste, right? It's like that's ridiculous. You would never you would never say that like to somebody else just because it didn't the result didn't kind of like come out on the day that you wanted it to doesn't mean that all of that was for naught. And it's obviously a little bit different when it's competition, but you're also like we're also much more deliberate about peaking for and being ready to perform optimally in competition. Whereas you know a a a retest day in a training phase is like, yeah man, maybe maybe you're just still beat to shit from Saturday last week. Test day was on Monday. Just because it's a new week doesn't mean your body forgot about what you did on Saturday. So like let's not get too wrapped around the axle here. But yeah, I think it it comes down to that kind of habit stacking and just the a bit of a kind of relinquishing of of concern for like hey I I just need to make these small little incremental changes. Eventually I will see the fruits of my labor pay off where where it comes becomes difficult is like, well, when is that? And I don't have the answer for you and and nobody does. And I think that's a lot of times where athletes if that's the only unknown, right? We tend as just humans in general, like unknowns can be can be scary. And the idea that I've worked really hard and I still haven't seen the fruits of my labor come come to fruition are it's like that can be can be challenging and that's that's where having a coach can be super beneficial as well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah the I think the connection the bridge from maturity to patience is the all or nothing mindset that people have, myself included, you know, your same January 1st gang, you're like, okay, a new phase starts I'm finally going to and then you have this list that's 12 pages long of the new habits that you're gonna have because it's phase two. You're finally going to warm up, finally going to cool down, you're gonna do your pliability session, you're gonna sleep for 47 hours not sustainable, doesn't build patterns, you know, for habits that's been proven you know on a scientific level, research level. And what we're talking about seems so small but it's again the bridge to patients. We're not gonna be able to do all of it at once on a physical level either. So understanding that whatever additional things you need to add to become more mature as an athlete are going to take time for them to hold. And the linear progression model just kind of works for basically everything. And when it comes to patients, there is a massive element of physics, physiology, biology at our last camp I gave this the, you know, the talk about the natural order of things. You can't skip ahead. It's not possible unless you have ridiculous genetics which honestly isn't even skipping ahead or you're cheating. You just can't make things happen in a period of time just because you want them to happen. I take on a remote coaching client and almost every person that I take on wants to go to the CrossFit games. And most of them are two to five years away from that happening and if they're on the four or five year kind of plan, it's a long shot, but like I've been through situations where someone who really did not think that they could qualify for the games qualified or didn't think they could qualify for regional semifinals did or whatever level. So I try not to unless it's like literally the most obvious thing ever like if I somebody applied for remote coaching and they were 70 and they told me they wanted to win the indie games, we might have to have a tough conversation.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But that going back to like who I want to coach and who I like working with and who I like helping like that patience element is everything. Like you have to trust the process you have to buy into it or you're gonna have a really bad time. And we'll talk about expectations next, but they're gonna be wrong. They're not gonna make any damn sense.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean even if you have like you can have a certain level of expectations but again the bridge like you said between like maturity is kind of the recognition that this is going to take time and patience. And then like patience being kind of the actual execution portion of that, right? It's like you can have the maturity of saying like like it's it's on honest and even honestly like for an athlete it's you can convince an athlete pretty quickly that like hey you're not going to the games this year, but you could next year or the year after if we work really hard. And it's like yeah okay I can like I'm mature enough to understand that I'm not going to get there maybe at the end of this year. The question then becomes like so we have an expectation and you've kind of like on the other end of that you've decided like yeah I understand that this is going to take time. The distance between the two right is the patience element. And the problem is is that that distance is always changing and it is not guaranteed. Like there's no guarantee that you qualify for the CrossFit games next year, the year after or ever.
SPEAKER_02:You don't have control over it the amount of circumstances that exactly for sure delay. Yeah. And here's what's important once again we'll keep saying it we're we're making omelets here people we're breaking eggs. Like you will get to a point where your central nervous system is taxed and you're gonna become delirious and you're gonna be upset that you didn't have a 50 pound PR on the lift. You will lack patience in a micro environment and then you know that's when I give an athlete like hey why don't you go take a nap or it'd be cool if you went to bed tonight and then the next day they're fine. Or like if it's really bothering them, then it's okay, let's do that meeting where we do the like full zoom out and take a look at things. So there isn't we aren't saying to everybody that's listening, hey here are all the things that you need to be and you better be them right now and you better be them every day and in every training session and all of that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:I think one way that you can wrap that up and like to I'll kind of this kind of ties into more like expectations but like I'll have every once in a while like at the whiteboard it's a fucking gnarly workout ahead of the class people are nervous about it. People maybe they like it got circled when the when Streamfit revealed the workout they're like fuck you guys see Wednesday's workout whatever it is you stand at the front of the whiteboard say to your and say to the members like hey guys this is going to suck. Like this is going to be hard you preface that with like like yep you there's nothing hidden here like you already knew like I could see the anxiety I could see some nerves I can see people like kind of you know like what's coach going to say and in a lot of ways like leading off with like the elephant in the room like hey this is going to be hard and then people it's almost like okay like well if I know it's gonna be hard why can it I can plan for that right if it's an unknown of like I think this is going to suck. I don't know where it's gonna suck coach says hey this is going to suck the middle portion of the workout is going to take a really long time you're not gonna like it but you can get through it and we can you know let's scale accordingly to make sure this is appropriate. And all of a sudden it's like okay well I can do something hard because I know it's going to be hard. It's the unknown element and that expectation of like you know or the again it again it comes down to the unknown but if it's prefaced by like hey I need you to understand something if you work really hard we have some patience and maturity we work on these couple things I think that with time you could be a CrossFit games athlete but it's going to take a shitload of work. It's going to be really difficult. And if you're on board I am, it's like, okay, it's all out on the table and now it becomes just a yes or no like yep I do have I do think that I, you know, I want to give it a shot or like maybe maybe this isn't for me. But the fact that it's out there and it's like it's just it's spoken. It's no longer in your head it's it's been spoken as gospel it's like okay great we can step forward from there.
SPEAKER_02:That concept is like deserves to be screamed from the mountaintops weekly like understanding accepting what's going to happen. And one of my favorite instances is working with an athlete and being at a competition and they have a long couplet or triplet kind of classic MGW with running in it. And every round you get back to the running and you're gonna run faster in that context than you ever have in your life. But because running has less localized muscle fatigue and it's got that effort element to it, I feel the same way about the skier say that they're like triceps burnout or whatever. But like when I'm running or skiing I just you have those moments where you're kind of battling with yourself. Whereas other machines for me often I'm just like dude I could try as hard as I wanted to right now and it's not gonna matter you know to to push. So that idea of like you're gonna be at like RPE seven in round one and we got five rounds and every time you go run, you got to run as fast or faster and accept that it's gonna hurt a little bit more. Every single time you go run and you're gonna you thought that you knew what your gears were and your RPE was and then somehow you're at an 11 on a scale of 10. So we've reordered, we've understood that there's a different place that you can go. But it's one of my favorite things to have that conversation of it's like every round when you start running it's like all right I'm off the rope climbs and back squats or whatever and I'm just kind of you know I'm ready to go again. Once you get back you know into your pace, like stay there and and swim around in the fact that it's going to hurt really bad. And that's okay. That's how it's supposed to feel.
SPEAKER_01:And you can strat then you can start to strategize around that. Once you once the understanding is there, it's like, okay, so how do we how do we get around that? Well you give yourself the first 50 to 100 meters to feel sad for yourself and then like you have to get going. And again it's it's just a conversation of like hey the like based on our goal, our expectation for this phase, this specific event this is what has to happen. If you execute what has to happen, this will suck. This will be hard. But I know you can do it. Let's have an appropriate strategy. We've got our you know gears matrix so we know how fast you're supposed to be running you just need to understand that it's going to be difficult, but it is executable and if you execute it it will result in the best possible case scenario for this specific event phase, whatever it happens to be. But a lot of times it's just getting the like the elephant in the room out there and then like let's figure out how to make this thing actually work.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna set the spectrum for expectations at one side is that person who has a very reachable goal that puts it out like seven years. Like I'm gonna qualify for quarterfinals in 2029. And it's like okay well maybe we'll speed that timeline up a little bit. And then we have the fully delusional I'm gonna win the CrossFit games and I haven't made it to semifinals yet. Like that kind of thing. Obviously we don't want to live in either one of those places and our expectations need to reflect different periods of time and where we're currently at like I really like an athlete that has that longer term big goal but is like okay last year I was 25th at semifinals this year I want to be sniffing around that top with those top athletes. So you have those expectations that are like needs, you know, if you want the flow state if you want to believe in what you're doing it needs to be out of reach. It needs to feel a little scary. It can't be safe because then I don't think you're gonna demand as much of yourself. You're gonna kind of slot closer to that person that's pushing it off a little bit too much. But expectations are extremely important again micro macro so what are my expectations of this piece I'm doing today or this lift I'm about to do or like what is my sort of long-term goal. And something that will come up here in a couple of bullet points that's important is who is allowed to tell you what the expectations are. And the answer literally is just you and people that you've decided are what in that bubble and no one else, right? It's not the barbell spin, it's not you know Hiller, it's not any of these people, it's not your fucking annoying it could be a parent, could be a brother sister, could be whoever that's just like oh you came in third like it's like I'm the third fittest person, what what like there's there's like that level that portion understanding where your expectations come from is also massively Yeah I think like again that's a conversation that you have to have with kind of the a coach like obvious but the the broader the broader kind of archetype is an unbiased third party right it's somebody who can like sanity check it and make sure that it's like it's both realistic and it's like it's not on one kind of extreme or the other because right because the goal is like it's very similar to how you might train in order to get better, right?
SPEAKER_01:It's not okay I'm in a I'm an affiliate athlete want to go to semifinals therefore I'm going to my ex like I'm gonna do semifinals workouts. It's right that's that's not how it works. Like you don't we don't do that. Having somebody who's there to like audit kind of what those expectations are and establish like hey is this actually realistic? Because X all expectations are are kind of like it's a goal without I don't know without like additional thought to it I guess is is how I kind of think about that. But having those expectations and then the additional step of like having somebody who's able to say like okay you know I I don't know how you might differentiate a goal versus an expectation but um might be a good question just generally like I'm annoyed by semantics.
SPEAKER_02:That's another thing that annoys me as I get later on in life, you know sometimes we get like that's why I joked about the order of this like we actually probably rewind eight years and we might have argued over it. Probably yeah which is good because then obviously you're drumming up other ideas and everything like that. But at the end of the day some part of us knows that like it's where you need to start no it could be any of these places because they're a bridge to another one that sort of thing. Yeah. When it comes to that stuff like like when people argue whether an audio book is reading it's like if I spent my time arguing about something like that, I might perish. Like I I can't sure I can't want it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah the uh the like the expectations or goal and then that obviously ties into the dedication element but it's like hey you know part of the expectation is establishing okay so is the let's say that the expectation is it's not completely ridiculous. It's within the realm of possibility it then comes down to the conversation of like well so here are the things that you need to be willing to sacrifice in order to obtain that right because without a level of sacrifice the goal is insufficient to like truly dedicate and work towards so like hey so we want to go to semifinals okay what here's here are like three things that are going to happen. You need to block out three hours a day to train you need to block out nine hours a night to sleep and I need you to track every single thing that you eat. And it's like if that athlete has never ever slept nine hours a night in their entire life or has never tracked their food or has never trained done more than like a one hour affiliate class we now know that like okay this is that's either an overwhelming it's either not the correct goal or the expectation or we then need to kind of break that further into its component parts and kind of apply maybe the maturity meter. It's like, okay, well we're gonna block out I need you to train you take your affiliate class great and then I need two days a week where we're doing some extra training and then it's eventually a third day a week and hey I need you to track your macros one day per week. And then we can build incrementally on that but outlining kind of the here's the big goal well within that goal there are a whole bunch of bullet points that need to be hit in order to obtain that goal having the conversation of are one, is it reasonable for you to try to reach for these like to check these things off and two, do you even want to right? We have this conversation all the time. It's like I want to be a CrossFit games athlete. It's like no what you want is to walk out onto the field or into the stadium alongside a whole bunch of other fit athletes with people cheering your name and you got a cool CrossFit games jersey on your shirt. Like that's what you want. What you don't want is to do the fucking hundreds and hundreds of hours in order to realize that goal for like 60 seconds and then go get your ass whooped in an event at the CrossFit games. It's like there's a very big difference between you know kind of the the the picture that you have in your head of the goal and what it takes to actually get there.
SPEAKER_02:And that's the that's our segue to to dedication right like another hunterism that I remember from our last episode is go stand in front of the mirror by yourself and say I want to be a CrossFit games athlete and then you spin 360 degrees and you list out the things that it takes to get there and you answer whether you're willing to do them or not because that's what that means. And really what we're looking for is for your dedication to match your expectations. That's all it is. So everyone listening to this podcast is like I want to be this body fat percentage I want a 400 pound back squat. It'd be really cool if I could sign up for a 5K and not come in last I want to make it to quarterfinals. I want to win the cross whatever it is, we need those, we need the maturity, the patience, the expectations to match the level of dedication. Like it's almost I mean it's almost kind of as simple as that, right? Like we're talking through and we will in the rest of the episode what it means to be dedicated. But if you're listening, you like some part of you knows better and knows whether you are above or below that line based on what you're trying to accomplish.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I mean to like it's kind of intentional or not these tie in nicely like the dedication so we have let's say that you do have a whole lot of these kind of components checked off and are like hey so far we're all green lights here. It's like does your actual, does your life allow for this to happen? So for me personally like right now it's like my okay I would I would love to be a scratch golfer. I have the maturity I can coach myself to a certain extent I may not have the resources to pay like to pay a coach but I'll get a lesson from time to time I'm willing to practice I'm you know I want to practice I enjoy all of this I understand this is a slow process but I only have two days a week to legitimately dedicate to playing golf. And it's like man you can have all of those things but if life doesn't allow for that to happen like hey if you can't go out and chip and putt for like at least 45 minutes to an hour a day for the next year and then in the winter go in and hit golf balls into a plastic screen and film yourself. It's like having all of those things but not literally figuratively having the time and the lifestyle the you know the support structure whatever it is to actually go into those like it's just gonna it's gonna be it may mean may that might just turn it into a longer time horizon, right? It's like I've I've got the right attitude, I've got all of the like the dedication and the expectations are right. Maybe I need to adjust the time horizon. That's a different conversation but what it comes down to is like does can you actually you know there's lots of people listening who would love to be in a CrossFit gym for three, four, five hours a day exercising. Is that actually practically reasonable for you? Like maybe for some of you, but maybe not. And then like that final kind of like thing is wildly important to like literally just the the logistics of all of it.
SPEAKER_02:And I think the parallel that maybe more people will understand here is let's say you made that goal and you were making enough money to have that goal and you made the time for it and your significant other was pissed off at you every single Saturday and Sunday you spent on the golf course. Even if you still do it, that not having that system around you is going to take a major shot at it. It's not just that you're like, you know what, screw you, I'm gonna go golf or CrossFit. It's not just that. It's the turmoil and the gas tank being sapped. And I hope I hope she doesn't mind and maybe I'll ask and take this out. But just an amazing example of this and something that I'm super pumped about is McKenna is going part-time in her job to train more. And this was nice this was brought on by the support of her now husband Wyatt fellow misfit right and like really like pushed for it. Because again like we we talked about it in relation to me moving or you buying the gym. A lot of people don't feel like they have permission to make big changes in their life because it's just too much and maybe they grew up in a more conservative family and it's you know the like clock in, clock out and you you know march to the beat and you get in your car and you drive home and you just do what you're supposed to do, what society has decided that you should do. And you know I don't know how much of her like thought that this was like a long-term dream, but just knowing that the person that is there with her daily is not only supportive of it but like pushed for it and championed the concept is the ultimate representation of what we're talking about with that support system. And I want to be very clear and I'll just use this as an example because there's a million other examples there's friends, parents, significant others, all these different things, but it's not just on them. If you don't tell them how important this is to you or what you're trying to accomplish or you know do your part on you know in some other place in the relationship, then it's also on you. You have to set those expectations you have to put it out there. You are not asking for permission not to show up at all in a personal relationship. That's you know that we're back to the maturity meter here. So it's on both sides, right? And again it just I think it wraps up this whole side of the conversation of like as we work our way down this list, we have to be able to check the boxes in relation to what we're trying to accomplish and then what is needed within each category to actually make them happen. And the lifestyle of a CrossFit games athlete or semifinals athlete or honestly even a quarterfinals athlete has some very specific demands and you're not going to be able to work your way around them over a long time horizon. It's just not going to happen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah I think that that final the support structure again all pretty much everything up to this point are things that you know you are either analyzing on your own as an athlete or maybe you have a coach helping you, but at the end of the day it is very much kind of you know it's much easier to control the things that you can control, right? But there are second and third order effects like you said it's like okay well I I can't if I I can train four hours a day and a couple of those hours are going to be from six to eight p.m, what does that do to you know the home life? What does that do to the boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, whatever whatever it happen situation happens to be and does that start to create friction, resentment, you know, whatever and all of a sudden it doesn't really matter if you've got everything in line but if you're not getting the support that you need, you know? And and this is this is the tough the tough thing about this because this is kind of a especially like the more the bigger the goal right the larger the sacrifice across the board that it just kind of it's just kind of how it works and not feeling like you have that support.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like I feel like that's one part of it that's cool. It's it's complex in scope but it's very simple like the life of a like talk about punching the clock like the life of a CrossFit games athlete is you just need to buy in and your life needs to support this concept. But at that point it's like like one of the conversations I have to have with people once they have more free time is like we're gonna go harder and recover harder. I'm not gonna give you a mountain of volume. It doesn't make any sense. Like you're gonna get you're gonna notice how much fitter you can get with you know nine hours of sleep and like not feeling guilty when you relax between sessions and things like that. All right Ms Fitz we got to pause for just a second here. I don't know if there's a name for jet lag related to driving across the country and moving but there should be I forgot two important things at the beginning of the episode number one is early bird pricing for camp at CrossFit routes in Boulder, Colorado January 30th through February 1st ends in five days. You guys can still sign up after that but you're gonna have to pay$50 we do the early bird pricing to try to get a really good idea of how many people are going to be at camp so we can have the appropriate staff ready no matter what going to be a fantastic staff but head to the link and bio on Instagram get signed up for camp it's gonna be absolutely incredible. It's a beautiful place to be especially in the winter Boulder Colorado and yeah go get signed up. Second rain or shine collection you guys have been asking we've been teasing it a little bit finally came up with a design that I really like um feels appropriate with it being a very black and white topic and black and white design to have it be on Black Friday. So sharpenhexco.com everything on the site that is not new is gonna be 30% off which really means 40% off if you know your athlete codes but we want to always want to make sure that we're throwing our ambassadors a bone. So if you know your athlete codes, your favorite athletes if you don't know them, ask them on Instagram but it's gonna be 30% off and then you're gonna be able to add the code to add 10% off and we're gonna discount the Raynershine collection as well. The Raynershine collection is a pre-sale for a very specific reason. Number one, the amount of messages that we get especially during a sale that are like what the frick you don't have my size you guys never have my size you guys never have small, medium large extra large or I don't want a hoodie. I want a crew I don't want a long sleeve I want a t-shirt I don't want a t-shirt I want a crop. So we can do all of those things. And we've got some some sweatpants in there as well so you can kind of get the the full set heading into winter with the sweatpants and the sweatshirts. I'm really excited about the collection I think the design is sick and I also think that that ethos and that concept especially this time of year is incredibly important. So if you want to support MsFit Athletics support the podcast that is another way sharpenhexco.com we will run the pre-sale from Black Friday through Cyber Monday and you can stock up on t shirts and socks and things of that nature for 40% off if you know your athlete codes. All right back to the episode. All right we are going to jump to experience next our sort of subheadings under experience are education, history and perspective. Education is happening In real time. If you're listening to this, then you are bought into the concept, especially if you're an hour and five minutes into this episode. You are bought into the concept of, again, continuing education and understanding what you're doing. And honestly, we'll use probably the other bullet points to explain it potentially a little bit better, but you are educating yourself every single day in that gym. And if you have that athlete amnesia, affiliate coaches, you guys know what I'm talking about. You teach somebody a thruster for 45 minutes and open gym, and then the next day they say they don't know what that movement is. And it's like, this is crazy. And then, you know, an athlete that has, you talk about it all the time, a mountain of data daily, a gigantic mountain of data points that can make you better, that can make you smarter, that can give you a better athlete IQ. And if you don't pay attention to them and take notes and think about how you would do something differently the next time, like, I don't know, there's no way to assign a percentage to it, but 30% of your like, I think about it as like taking 30% too much of a supplement and then peeing like 45 cents into the toilet every time you do. Like that training is only partially as effective, again, as the other athlete who did the same thing as you and then kind of thought about it while they were cooling down and took some notes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, like you can underst like for one thing, like IQ, it like broadly speaking, is your ability to recognize patterns and process information faster than somebody else, right? That's kind of how that is developed, how it's tested. There's some like unfortunate statistics on like the fact that it's really difficult to improve from like a broad human IQ perspective, but from an like when we're talking about a very niche thing like athlete IQ in the sport of CrossFit, that's much easier to develop compared to like a again, like broad fluid IQ. Understanding that like all what you just said, taking the information that you have, your experience, the information that you've uh that you've gleaned over however long it is, and also trying to connect. There's a whole lot of like, and especially as a as an affiliate coach, it's like there's like a handful of movement patterns and positions that athletes need to be good at. There's a million movements in CrossFit, but there's like a handful of just general patterns, movements, positions that you need to be able to get in. And if you can get into those positions, then you can do essentially any of the movements that we have. You just need to maybe be taught how to do them most efficiently. But the recognition of how things kind of connect and intertwine, whether that's literal, like I was kind of alluding to, positions, all the way to like, well, how fast do my 800s need to be in this three-round MECCO in order to one, be competitive to like, you know, I'm not, I'm not gonna run at a pace that I'm physically incapable of running, but what is that pace? And then being able to tie your experience into like, well, I know that I tend to know that in this sort of setting, I can push a little bit harder than maybe I give myself credit for. So I need to kind of bake that into the cake, so to speak. So all this comes down to is just like the more history you have, the more kind of perspective that you have go into our the other bullet points and just like what you kind of consume, whether it's content like you alluded to, like books, podcasts, whatever it is, it's less important that we're like perfecting these very specific niche components of your education and more just like, are we actually interested in learning and getting better? And then are we actually paying attention to how a lot of these concepts connect and intertwine? Because when you can start to pick up on those patterns, all of a sudden, like you can outcycle your, your, your opponent, your peer, whatever, when it comes to like making decisions and you apply that to a very, very specific level. It's like, okay, I'm going head to head with this person in an open workout. If I can recognize the pattern, make a decision and execute and cycle that loop faster, like I can like I'm gonna win. In the military, that's a it's a it's a super well-known, it's called the OODA loop, O O D A. Military loves their acronyms. The can't remember, I think it was an Air Force kernel, Air Force Colonel who who developed it, but it's observe, orient, decide, act. And it is just like it's pretty self, pretty, it pretty intuitive, right? And it's just a constant feedback loop, okay. Like, what's going on? I need to orient myself to the right decision, make a decision, and then execute that decision. And this is a constant iterative process. And you can think about that in a workout, right? It's like, okay, I did that first round too fast. I need to make an adjustment, and then I need to execute. And you are constant, and then it's like, oh fuck, out of the corner of my eye, I saw somebody, they're not slowing down. Okay, no, I can't slow down, observe, orient, and then that that oodle loop is just constantly being like refined and executed on. And the better that you can get at recognizing, observing, orienting, deciding, and acting, that's how you win in the like the actual military application. This was in reference to like dog fighting, like dog fighting fighter jets. Like if you can outcycle the enemy as far as like that UDO loop, you win. Yeah. If you don't, you lose.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. Yeah. Stakes are pretty high there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:A little different. The thing that's popping into my head right now, and if we got any nerds listening to this, which we definitely do, Farnum Street has a mental model. I think they have a volume one and two that you can buy on Amazon. And when you have a mental model for training, we're going back to the maturity meter because you have, you know, just sort of the loop type thing that you're talking about, Hunter. We have a way to audit what we're doing and get the information out of it. And then that linear progression of remembering to do it and making it an actual habit on a regular basis. It's like, I really want to know if you tweaked your warmup, did you feel better in that workout? I really want to know like, did you finally get over the fact of not going unbroken? And we did three sets of chest to bar, and now your score got way better. So many pieces that we could add to it, and we have to look at it through a certain type of lens. And if you have a mental model for the way that you audit, then you can continue to do so over time, and it can be incredibly helpful. And I wanted to bring something up to explain my concept here. So let's stop this. Technology window.
SPEAKER_01:You have to remind me before the end of the podcast, I have to shout out Tony for something hilarious in this past week that a lot of listeners will appreciate.
SPEAKER_02:So this right here is maybe a little bit of an explanation of my brain. I did this at camp, and it's funny because it was to prove a point, and people took a pic like took pictures of it and tried to study it. And that was not the where we were going. One feature of ADD is you re-arrive at concepts in a completely different place, partially because you don't remember the specific thing that you said about one of the bullet points. And I find that to be fun. Like when I'm looking at these things, I want to know, and and not to bury the lead, the bottom bullet point here is perspective. So I'm arriving as a coach back at this conversation with a different perspective. And what you're seeing if you're watching on YouTube is all of the things that we said as a group of three coaches at the time during a podcast about athlete IQ. And it's fun to, again, have education and history. I can go back and look at this and be like, oh yeah, that's right. Like I remember that concept. That's really cool. And then I can also arrive at a completely different conclusion today to sort of think through things. And it came to mind because I was like, history, hmm, like what am I gonna say about that? And it's for my brain, it's not typically what have we said before. It's like, how am I thinking about it at 1016 a.m. or 25? And just the idea of your personal history, the history of your competitors, the history of the sport. Like, I'm when I think history, I think of all the crazy spreadsheets that I have of every single movement that's ever been programmed by Dave Castro. I think about all the experiences that I've had as a coach at literally every level, like beginner's class, personal training, someone's having a tough time standing up off a box, top 10 at the CrossFit Games, podium at the CrossFit Games, all that stuff. And all of that history and all of that knowledge and all that education, it's it's again just another thing that like epitomizes athlete IQ. Like I could be better without training, like training aside, basically. Like I could get significantly better if I really thought through the history of the sport and like, oh, I remember when they did the cut rope climbs. I gotta find that video of Catherine and Brent wrapping their crotch around the rope, you know, for their second pull or something like that. And just these little things of like, for me, I taught movement based on the best athletes in the sport. I would download their videos, I would rip their YouTube videos, and I would go frame by frame and be like, oh wow. Like I remember a Ben Smith video where you could not tell where his extension and turnover stopped and ended on the rings. And that was where I came up with the whole like fluidity of movement idea that we've talked about a bunch. So history studio of this. Yeah, I there was this scrawny kid who just flew past him at the Mid-Atlantic Regional. I don't know who it was, but it was it was majestic.
SPEAKER_01:Back in 2014, I know you were, I know you ripped that video down, analysis for for sure.
SPEAKER_02:So what what comes to mind for you when thinking about history as sort of separate from education?
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, that little caveat at the end there is really fucks me up here.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, I mean again, and and I don't I have no I have all the qualms with uh semantics.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. History.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, I it's uh I think the his one, as an athlete, you can look back at the there like you have to study history in order to have an idea of where the sport might be headed. Um we've seen that basically every year since 2010. Say, I mean, even before that, but like when people really started paying attention a little bit more to competitive CrossFit, just the evolution of going from like holy like holy crap, there's a 405 deadlift at the CrossFit games to like, yeah, that's three rounds of seven 405 deadlifts, an air run, and a shitload of G HD sit-ups. Like, I hope your midline is prepared for this. And so just having like an understanding that's more about like from a preparation perspective, as far as like, hey, if you're not paying attention to what we've done in the past, here maybe another more applicable example is like, are you paying attention to what crossfit.com posts? So something super simple because how many times have those workouts? I saw a workout somewhat of a sidebar, but it was like, where was it? It was like, I think it was 108642 hour snatch overhead squat bar muscle up at like 185. Um it was like it was a fucking gnarly. And I was like, that's a dot-com workout. And like every once in a while they'll drop one where it's like, I have to scale that. Like 155 is that that weight for me, 155, 165, something like that's the weight for me. But I'm like, that is that is a semifinal workout next year. And I'll I'll I'll call that now. I'll say, like, yeah, I would not be surprised if we saw something similar because that just had a that just reeked of a a terrible, like, I I would love to see games athletes throw down and see how fast they could do it.
SPEAKER_02:But the point is last chance qualifier, heavy overhead squat muscle up was brutal. Like it was one of those workouts that on paper looked like however many minutes based on doing just the like wad timing math, and it's like five minutes longer because you you gotta you gotta wait.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the muscle fatigue element for sure. But yeah, and I think like learning to pay attention to we, you know, and by we I mean you mostly, you you do that analysis of like, hey, this is what we can expect to see at the CrossFit Games because this is what we've seen at the CrossFit Games for the last 10 years. It's like you're getting this event on this day, you got these stimuli that are probably gonna get hit. You know you're gonna see one, two, or three weird things. But as an athlete, like just paying attention to those sorts of things over a long enough period of time and you start to pick up on the patterns. And then there's also the again, going back to kind of like the literal IQ element. It's like, okay, what are they not going to program? Or what is like, yeah, they're more than likely not putting these couple things together because, well, like, how the fuck would they possibly do this logistically? You can like get really into the weeds thinking about like what they are likely to do, what they have done in the past, and what they might do in the future based on, again, historical precedence and just like using your brain.
SPEAKER_02:Last bullet point here is perspective. And it's a very sort of never-ending developing thing from all fronts, from the coach, from the athlete. And I just think it's about like part of me thinks it's about allowing yourself to change and develop. Like, cause there's sometimes maybe in politics or like your general opinions in life where you're internally your opinion changes, and then someone you like you have fear that someone will like be like, you changed your mind, or you've changed, and you want to be like, Oh, thanks. Like, that's a common thing. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So again, your perspective needs to continue to develop and change and what angle you're looking at things from. And you can look at it again from multiple angles. And we're we're doing that on this podcast, interchanging between the high-level athlete, the affiliate athlete, the coach, the athlete, all of those different things. And you're just you're gonna make your way around this circle and you're gonna get your mind in a better spot, and you're gonna get your body in a better spot, and you're really gonna start to pay attention to your mountain of data and the mountain of data from the sport itself, and your perspective will change, or at least it should for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, I think that the example there of like, you know, maybe more broad general thoughts on, you know, politics, great example, given how volatile that is right now. It's like, is something that you believed previously and historically something that you still believe because you still believe it, or is it just kind of like attached to your persona that because that's who you were at a certain point, other people have like kind of assigned that to you from a from a social perspective. And now that that's just kind of like part of your personality, not necessarily because it's even true anymore. It's just because at one time it was, and then other people kind of latched onto that, and then they associate like Hunt Hunter's Hunter's the guy who never likes to go out because he liked he would rather stay in. It's like that can change, and like you have to be willing to change that perspective from like a a more maybe a better example for the athlete is like, well, I've always go back to the rope climb thing, I've always climbed rope this way. That's just how I do it. And like, I've never really considered an outside perspective. And then the outside perspective being like, well, have you considered that like here's three or four reasons why you might not want to do things the way that you have historically done them in the past? Like, and then what are the like, well, you know, if your goal is to improve your placement in quarterfinals and you know that this is a movement that you need to get better at, consider the alternative that, well, what you've been doing has proven to not be working, right? Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be here asking for help. So is there the possibility that your preconceived notions are actually incorrect or they're ill-founded, or someone gave you advice one time that was applicable then, but it's no longer applicable now, and you just haven't changed your perspective in order to like accommodate new information, better information, a different way of approaching things? And I think that, like, honestly, if you were to draw a line, like you could fucking bring that line and arrow all the way back to maturity at the very beginning. It's like, do you are you mature enough to recognize that like wow, I'm holding on to this persona, this thing that I've just kind of that's just kind of been latched onto me for so long and like it's actually no longer serving me, and I need to make this change and you know it's not an immediate thing and it's gonna take time, but like, you know, that's that's kind of that's the that's the maturity meter, right? It's like that's the 100% biggest application of the maturity meter right there.
SPEAKER_02:Since we're creating this list, things that would make Drew perish, towing the party line, any party, the CrossFit party, the real political parties, like the idea that you can't have your own individual thoughts, and someone else will be like, actually, that's not what we think at the moment. I'll just wither away.
SPEAKER_01:Motherfucker, who's weak?
SPEAKER_02:I will be hanging, I'll be hanging from a tree, the leaf will die, and I will just blow into the wind. I won't exist anymore. So I think that wraps up the experience part pretty well. And we're gonna finish with body. And we're an hour and 23 minutes into this podcast, so we'll try to wrap it up. But this is the most cut and dry part of this. And I have it split out into GPP, skill, and recovery. And I again, all the way back to the beginning of the podcast, believe that you need to understand and buy in to the full power of general physical preparedness if you want to excel. Because there are different times of year, especially as a competitor, honestly, or even just like we're about to do basically Texas method in the affiliate and, you know, or at least, you know, a linear progression five by five back squat in the next phase. And that's gonna make such a profound effect on an athlete's physiology, even though you're not gonna do a MetCon that day. Like I remember the old Rob Wolf thing, once you get your CrossFit total over a thousand pounds, Fran is like a reasonable workout and you can really hammer it. And, you know, thinking history, education, perspective, the things that shape you as a coach, especially and as an athlete, is being like, wow, that's crazy. You would assume that I just need to be doing burpees and wall balls all day if I want to get better at this. And it's like, well, like if it's a lot easier on your muscles to cycle that barbell, then your heart rate's gonna be lower, you're gonna flush a waste faster, you know, all of those things. And I really just believe that like it's one of the reasons why we have naming conventions for what we do. You know, we have the, you know, mafetone or zone two sessions, we have, you know, build for our anaerobic stuff, we have aerobic, we have power output, we have muscle overload and cardio and all of these different things. And I want people to see what happens to everything else when you get better at one thing or two things or three things. And if you don't believe, if you don't trust the process, if you don't believe in your training, you are once again taking some percentage of what you're doing and throwing it in the toilet. Because if you're not really along for the ride, the intensity, the focus, all those things probably aren't gonna be there in the same way as they would if you're like, like it just McKenna's another really good example, the stuff that she bought into and worked on while she had the, you know, recovering from ankle surgery. She just trusted the process. And even though it was frustrating at times to continue to be doing the same things, phase zero was like they were her best, a lot of her best numbers she's ever had and things she hadn't done in, I don't even know, six months, longer, eight months. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, we saw that with like Caroline during COVID, right? Like just stimulus being king and like, yeah, sorry, we didn't have access to a barbell or rings for very long, but man, we got real good on machines and running, and lo and behold, the CrossFit games athlete pops out the other side.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think from the the on the body perspective, the I see, I see like the GPP and the recovery bullet points as being kind of like the physical when we think about CrossFit like breaking up almost general skills into the organic versus the kind of like neurological, meaning like, hey, I I'm gonna actually the GPP and the recovery, this is me just physical exertion, like prop properly programmed, is going to result in progress. And notice, note that it doesn't say like, you know, it's not bitchwork and recovery, it's not five by five back squat and recovery, it's not squat snatch recovery, it's not muscle ups and recovery, it's general physical preparedness, right? And recovering from general physical preparedness. It's train, do the CrossFit like kind of like the GPP style of programming that we do, recover from it, and you're gonna get better. The skill element to me falls in that's where that that's the neurological adaptation of like, okay, I need to outside of intensity, I need to figure out how the hell to appropriately lock my feet into the rope to climb. I need to figure out this, you know, I'm a games athlete. I've got to spend a little bit of time with this stupid fucking jump rope to try to get a triple under or two because it might pop up. You know, there's a whole spectrum of what that means based on your ability level, but I just see those two things, that kind of that whole section of the triangle being broken out into like the organic adaptation. I just train and I get better at it versus like I need to practi I need to spend a little bit of brain power practicing to try to learn something new or make some sort of muscle memory connections here so that I can actually utilize this thing now for my GP.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and skill is a funny one and it's it's important to be here because you just again, how much of it is you educating yourself versus your coach helping you is probably a separate conversation for a separate day. But really just understanding how to get better at something and buying into the idea that you will get better if you have maturity and patience. Maturity meter. There it goes. Exactly. If we get back to that same conversation and how, you know, there's a GPP element, GPP-esque element to this whole thing, right? You get a little bit better at this and then it shoots over here and it shoots over here. And again, if you're on YouTube, that was the point of what this is on the screen, aside from different coaches' perspectives and how it sort of adds up. It's also, you know, like this turns into this. Like we gotta work on all of it. We got to keep circling back. We're going left, we're going right, we're going up, we're going down, you know, the triangles, the pyramid, you know, it's a hypotenuse. But the skill element of not only do I know how to, or someone is coaching me in the right way to get better, but the belief that I can and will get better is so important. That level of buy-in, not having that, not having the perspective and the education and the dedication and the maturity and the patience can make these things so frustrating because again, depending on who you are, you probably have like a niche in the sport. It's what got you in, you know. You whooped everyone's ass on the rower, or you could do muscle ups to start off or, you know, super strong, that kind of thing. And you have these expectations for like, well, I'm the, you know, I'm the barbell guy. And then they announce a particular stimulus that puts you in the grave and this guy is falling. The ups, the downs are huge because you don't understand that it's just a new thing. It's a new stimulus to figure out, it's a new skill to figure out. You know, if it's repeated Olympic lifts over and over at a moderate weight, am I just gassed because I'm hitting quadruple extension and ripping the bar to my eyeballs when I don't need to? You know, am I moving my feet too much when in CrossFit? Sometimes you gotta, you know, plant those babies and let her rip, that kind of thing. That belief system, no matter what, I think is so imperative.
SPEAKER_00:All right.
SPEAKER_02:Last but not least, could have started here, but we're gonna end here. Call it the other 23 hours because it's most applicable to people. Most of the even the people listening to this podcast, maybe it's 22. Um, but we're working hard for an hour to an hour and a half a day. Um, most days. So if this is an important thing to you, and one twenty-fourth of your behaviors are dedicated to it, might be a problem, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Low-hanging fruit will disappear at an alarming rate in this sport as the history gets deeper and deeper, and you understanding how to recover, you know, that, you know, back to the, you know, talk about it all the time, the super compensation model. Like, if you just keep driving yourself into the ground, you don't pop back up above the baseline. Yeah. And man, we're not gonna do we just totally separate episode of what the specifics in recovery are, but a lot of it is like talked about it in the, I think the last episode or the one before, that YouTube comment about Chris Bumstead and someone being like, I think I know why he's so good. He's so chill. Like he seems like the kind of guy who could go in and do, you know, whatever 10 by 10 bench with 150-pound dumbbells and then be asleep like 30 minutes later on his couch. And if you watch his YouTube, you can tell that dude spends a lot of time hanging out, right? It's like eating 12 trillion calories a day and sitting around outside of his ridiculous training regimen. So, like the work hard, play hard thing is one of the cheesiest monikers in the history of the world. So we gotta come up with something better than that. But again, like training your ass off and then turning that off is often the side of whatever it takes that people aren't all that interested in. They got into this because they're type A, because they're willing to hurt, because they're willing to push, and then they go bring that to the other parts of their life, and that gas tank gets sapped, and that super compensation is not super.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's kind of funny. You spent we spent an hour and a half talking about all of the thing, like all of the things, and then there is an element where like it needs to be none of the things. House of friends, right? Yeah, like there needs to be if if you're always on, you're never on, right? You have to be able to turn it on and off, and there's a skill component to that for sure. It's like, hey, you're not not in the gym anymore right now. You're you know, you let's let's think or talk about something that isn't competitive CrossFit. And you know, I I don't want to shy people away from like, you know, if you if you have a a really lofty goal, that there may be less of that. But like if you're uh you know an affiliate athlete who's in here an hour a day to be fit and healthy, but all we talk about is thrusters and pull-ups, it's like we might have a priority, a prioritization kind of issue here as far as like what does our goals align with our actions? But yeah, I think just hooking, you gotta turn it off. Gotta turn it off every once in a while. If you want to be able to turn it on, you have to be able to turn it off.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Um, all right.
SPEAKER_02:So final thoughts. Final thoughts. Okay, you go first. I'm developing one.
SPEAKER_01:That's fine. My this isn't as relevant of a final thought, but I tease this. But man, okay, so where fuck, where was it? Week five, week three, day five, optional piece, three rounds for time, one thousand meter row, one hundred foot double dumbbell front rack carry, seventies, twenty G HD sit ups, one hundred foot, sorry, hundred feet, hundred foot double dumbbell front rack carry. I receive, I receive text message. You think that's yuck. I receive text message two hundred feet per round. I'm like, look, what's he talking about? I think I know what this piece is. Yep, yep, yep, that's 200 feet per round. Two rounds took me 26 minutes. And I'm like, okay, like let's worst case, like say four and a half minute one K round. That's how we got we got four minutes, like that's that's like a minute, five, six, seven. Let's say, like, absolute worst case scenario, that round takes you eight minutes, and it's a 16-minute two round, which is kind of fucking slow. And then it dawned on me, hey Tony, did you carry the dumbbells or did you do something else with them? I lunged.
SPEAKER_00:How many feet of lunges did he do?
SPEAKER_01:Four son of oh, yeah, yeah. Hold on. I'll stand by for that calculus. I was like, Tony, I and I felt terrible because I was like, I should have specified in the notes. I was like, this is a carry, not a lunge. We're talking walk with the dumbbells on your shoulders. It's a shitty midline workout.
SPEAKER_02:And he was like Austin, it would have been in caps lock and I would have sent it to Caroline to tell him.
SPEAKER_01:Uh and like that. So I take I take some responsibility for that. But then I was like, Is it are we in the fucking danger zone here? I'm like, hundred feet. Okay, so that's that's especially for good by 25 foot, let's eight 25 foot lengths in one round. So that's 16 25 foot lengths. 16 times, let's respectfully say Tony's five foot five frame yields him 10 lunges per 25 feet. We're we're looking at around 160 old lungy boys with the 70s in the front rack. I was just like dude.
SPEAKER_02:I told him I was like believe you. You you we talked about seal fit and you programmed I programmed seal fit, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I did send him the seal of approval though. I said I was like, I was like, I'm so proud of you for. absolutely hazing yourself. And I was like, you should really spend some time like mashing. I don't know if in the waiting room in a hospital just in case.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like I was like, I don't know if a cold plunge is like gonna like if that's feasible for you to get to, but like maybe dunk those stems or something like that. And he was like, it's like actually like my legs don't feel that bad. Uh I was limited a bit on capacity at that weight. I'm like, yeah. I was like, I'm curious to see how this statement ages. I did not, I was somewhat unpleasantly surprised that I didn't receive a message from him that said, I'm fucking dead. Maybe it was the two doubles and a milkshake from Shake Shack.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, shout out Tony for just absolutely fucking hazing yourself in what was already like a long muscle overload stimulus workout. So like what like it was still long and muscley muscle overloady. And he he cut out the third round. He did he did the ru bless his heart. He did do the third round of rowing but he omitted the additional 200 feet of front rack lunging, which I'm totally fine with. So he not only hazed the shit out of himself, but he got the third round of rowing in, which of the movements was the one that I would have loved for him to actually get in. And yeah, just a friendly reminder to everybody to just just take a peek at the old words on the page but Tony, I love you, man. That's just a fucking goddamn warfighter Tony.
SPEAKER_02:That is incredible.
SPEAKER_01:His boots trying to sizes that day. As soon as he said it about what you were as soon as he texted it, I was like, I think I knew what he's talking about and I think I know what just happened.
SPEAKER_02:And because I had a during COVID I had a thing that I would do with 40 pound dumbbells. I would walk up my driveway with them over my head until I was close to failure. And then I would go to farmer's carry until I was close to failure. And then I would go to front rack close to failure. And like it was such a good stimulus. Like I I definitely I gave it to some of my more is that the order kind of is that the right order that was the right order for me personally. But I um hardest the easiest is the direction I was going kind of like drop sets basically.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And the front rack and you think the the front rack was easier than the farmer's yeah it was for me.
SPEAKER_02:We won't talk about why publicly I understand I understand. But part of the reason why I like the stimulus so much is because in this position here I have really good mobility like I can feel very stacked and keep my T-spine where I need to but when your shoulders and your forearms don't work that position is like gnarly. And I definitely did mix up the other ones and I just felt like the other order, like especially going from front rack down to farmer's carry, like I didn't have I couldn't walk for as long. So maybe that's more of what it was is like I felt like that order is where I could walk the furthest.
SPEAKER_01:We made it so far on the podcast before the internet website can you still hear me Carter's in there playing Geek Squad.
SPEAKER_00:I know he's messing around with the internet what?
SPEAKER_01:Alrighty Miss Fitz I think we're experiencing some technical difficulties. Drew's Colorado internet is not cooperating likely because Carter has unplugged the Wi-Fi.
SPEAKER_02:All right gang I am back after some technical difficulties. I just wanted to wrap up my final thoughts on this topic a concept that I was thinking about throughout the episode that I think is really powerful and kind of leans into the 50-50 agreement that we talk about with the coaches and athletes. And it's just this idea of if you're going to coach or be an athlete, you have to be willing to go as far as the other person. And I like to let the athlete set that standard and then work with them to improve it. But I'm always going to match or exceed what the athlete is doing. But if each side takes responsibility in a really huge way, it marries together into something extremely powerful. So for my coaches out there, you need to take the responsibility of developing the athlete IQ from the coach's side, teaching them how to do it and working under the assumption that you are, you know, almost solely responsible for the success of this athlete in a way. And I'll explain what that means in a second, but the athlete needs to feel the same way. They need to do as much as they can to help themselves because then their level of understanding and their ability to absorb the lessons from the coach will be significantly higher. So if the athlete is all in on all the concepts that we talked about today and the coach is as well and they're not kind of doing the Spider-Man meme of pointing at each other and saying like, well you're not doing this or the other side isn't doing that, then you can really accept responsibility for your side of things. And if both people rise to these really high levels, then things are going to go extremely well. So this is one of my favorite topics. This is one of my favorite episodes to do every year. You know, we're we're over an hour and a half here but I appreciate you guys taking the time to listen all the way through and would love some discourse, you know, email me coach at misfitathletics.com, jump into the telegram group, talk about, you know, sort of what your thoughts are on this topic. And yeah, we'll see you guys next week. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Misfit podcast. Thank you to GorillaMind for sponsoring this episode. You can go to gorilla mind.com forward slash Misfit or use the code misfit at checkout to save 10% their Black Friday sale is still running and we'll run through the week 20, 30, 40% off and then you stack the code and that becomes 30, 40 or 50 really good trial period for us, you guys to try out our new sponsor and support the podcast. If you're looking for affiliate programming you can head to teammisfit.com click on the sign up now button and you get a two week free trial at StreamFit, sugarwatt, or push press or if you'd like the PDF version, shoot me an email coach at misfitathletics.com and I will get that over to you. All your individual programming needs are link in bio on our Instagram get signed up on Fitter or Strivey. We see you guys next week.
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