Speaker 1:0:01I realized that action is worth so much more than ideas, man, we have so many ideas, but take action on so few of them. Podcast movement started with an idea, starve the doubts. Started with an idea that was followed by action. So there it is.
Speaker 2:0:24Welcome to starve the doubts. I'm your host, jared. Easily. It's been a little while since you put out an episode. Shame on me. But as you know, I kinda take strategic breaks here and there and with podcast movement, Philadelphia being all in focused on that. Thankfully it was a great success, but that definitely required my attention. Uh, but today, now I have the attention of our guests. It really doesn't need an introduction. He's been on the show and more times than probably I have jody mayberry. Welcome back to starve the doubts,
Speaker 1:0:51jared, easily. It's great to be here and that seems like an exaggeration to say I've been on more than.
Speaker 2:0:57No, definitely not, but when we count all the different shows that you're involved in and then think back to when you were just a lowly cohost on starve the doubts years ago certainly surpassed me when it comes to podcast episode production. So part of me is proud of that and the other part of me is like, man, I've, I've, I've slipped, slipped, but it's all good. So congrats.
Speaker 1:1:23Thanks jared. It's, and I've, on my recent 100th episode of the Jody maberry show, I talk about how you are, the reason that happened, it never, if it hadn't been for starve the doubts and you're saying come on, be a cohost that never would've happened and I did the math recently, but I don't know the exact number off the top of my head, but there's been more episodes, but it's around now 730 episodes I've hosted and produced that. So that's.
Speaker 2:1:51Yeah, that's yeah, that's a lot of work. Anybody that's recorded more than three podcasts knows that, so congratulations.
Speaker 1:1:59Yeah, well thanks. And that doesn't count being on starve the doubts. That doesn't count any of those episodes. And I, we did a brief, me and Alex Barker, who you, I know you know him, we did a brief stint of a show called pharmacy live radio where I hosted, but he did all the production work. So those don't count in into that either. So it's been from that very first episode with James Woosley Til now. My goodness, jared, you really, uh, gave me a slingshot and I've been taken windows out with it.
Speaker 2:2:33Well, I love your slingshot and a, I want to talk about things that aren't. Podcasting is, yes, you are a podcaster and we mentioned this prior to hitting record, but you don't necessarily tell people I'm a podcaster. And so let's just touch on that just for a moment. Jodie, why don't you just come out and say, I'm a podcaster. You've approached it differently. What's the thought behind that?
Speaker 1:2:55Well, the approach that I take is that I'm a consultant. That podcast. I'm a businessman that podcasts, like I know a podcast stuff, but the reason this works for me is because of the people I work with, they've never looked for a podcast or to help them. They've always looked for somebody that understands them, understand what they do, understands business, and if you can help them use podcasting to get their message out, then so be it, but that. So that's why I've taken that approach. I definitely am a podcaster and proud to be one, but that's not, that's rarely how I bill myself as, as a podcaster.
Speaker 2:3:38I think it's pretty amazing to see the new business that's been created from these efforts and then opportunities like keynoting conferences. I want to touch on that because one of those conferences I was very envious of. You had an opportunity to go down to California. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1:3:54Oh yeah, that was great. I got to speak at a conference at Disneyland and I don't know if it gets any better. Well, perhaps the only better speaking I've done is at podcast movement, but it's, it's pretty cool to have that opportunity and again, that's something that, oh, you can trace back to podcasting, but yeah, we, I got to bring my family to that. Got to speak at a conference at Disneyland and spend a couple of days there with my family and I will tell you what, that was one of my proudest moments to know we had so much fun. We got to do so much while we were there and the thing that I did this like not by myself, I'm not trying to brag. I hopefully you'll, you'll get this year, but to just realize, man, we're doing something this spectacular because somebody else wanted me to come and speak to them and that was just to me one of the coolest moments to bring my family along for something like that out of something like that
Speaker 3:4:54created that wasn't there before. Definitely an eye opener and
Speaker 2:5:03very well deserved. Jody, I think your generosity for those that know you, they're going to be shaking their heads right now saying, yeah, that's true. And for those that don't know you, then they'll hopefully learn as an example that. I mean, you've just been diligent, you've been patient, you've been kind and that has played out over time to put you in scenarios now that we dreamed about five years ago. So good on you man.
Speaker 1:5:26Well thanks. And I think it for both of us, it's opened up scenarios that we, yes, some that we dreamed of five years ago, but some that we never could have imagined.
Speaker 2:5:36Like absolutely. I'm like, like, like pod what I was going to say like podcast movement. When you started starve the doubts, I'm sure you that you hadn't even imagined that could happen and now look at, you know, I didn't, but now that I look back on, on some of the different aspects of my life, I see how there was number of seasons, everything from the navy to work in that summer camps to fallen in love with the wrong girl to, you know, I mean there's just so many random little things that add up that have uniquely prepared me to do what I do now. And I have to laugh at that. The irony of that, and to make it even more ironic is my father, unfortunately he passed away when I was young, but his background and his passion was broadcast communications and he was really into radio.
Speaker 2:6:29I'm sure if he was still living now, he would. He would be absolutely into podcasting and there was a gentleman that came to podcast movement who was one of my dad's students. My Dad was a professor at a college. One of his communication students is certainly much older now and then in the workforce for many years and been doing that. He came to podcast movement and sat down with me and, and uh, it was kind of awkward at first. Jodi [inaudible], he kinda was like, had some tears in his eyes. I was like, oh, this is weird what's going on? And he just expressed to me, he's like, you know, your, your, your dad really helped me when I was younger and in school trying to figure out what to do. And now I see his legacy continued through what you're doing through podcast movement. And I hadn't really thought of it that way, jody, because all along it's just been, hey, I like podcasting, hey, let's see if we can create an event where people can come together and continue to grow in that area.
Speaker 2:7:22Uh, but when he said that to me that, that really made sense, like the bigger picture of my dad's background in broadcasting communication and now I'm in a similar space of be added to an event for people to do that. And so little things like that, it just really is exciting and that is unexpected. That's exactly what you were talking about, jody, is like, I didn't know how some of these things would come together, but now I can see it and I'm certainly grateful and surprised and uh, I'm enjoying myself. Yeah, great. And it's all deserved. Men, you've put in a lot of hard work and this has been fun to watch. And who knows what comes next? Who knows? Maybe maybe there's something bigger than podcast movement you haven't even thought of yet. We love surprises on starve the doubts. And in the vein of, of surprising people, I wanted to surprise you, jody, with a new segment just for this episode.
Speaker 2:8:13And that's advice from granny jody, what, what's some advice from granny? Well, I know what your favorite piece of advice from my granny is and that we, we've mentioned this before, but it's been awhile. So I'm bringing it back. I mean we can dig deeper into, he said if you want, but we're bringing it back if you wait until the last minute, it only takes a minute, which is, my wife doesn't laugh at that when I tell her that. But uh, I still think I still think granny was dead on. Is there any other advice that that veteran he had that, that is relevant? I'm sure it is. Oh yeah. My, so my granny, she was like the philosopher of the, she,
Speaker 1:8:56she knew her stuff and she, she was always telling me stuff when I was younger and you know, you don't listen to that when you're younger. It doesn't, it doesn't mean much. But um, and you kind of put me on the spot with this one. So I'm trying to think of another good one, but I mean, here there's so much and where she got it, I don't know, I, you know, she could have maybe my grandpa said it and she repeated it. Who knows, but she was always saying good stuff and I don't know, maybe there just needs to be a grantee quote book or something out there, but uh, on the spot I'm having trouble coming up with, with one from scratch.
Speaker 2:9:37Well, the one that you shared is good enough and I, I appreciate you, uh, being flexible to do that. Thank you. I like to put you in end fund scenarios. You're also a very good storyteller. I'd love for you to just share maybe a story or two that has nothing to do with podcasting, but just, just some fun stories that resonate with you that you've used in, whether it's public speaking or the podcast or just something you've heard that you want to reshare. I enjoy your ability to share stories. Insights opened. Maybe might do one more.
Speaker 1:10:10Well, I have found that stories work really well with public speaking. If I start off, especially with a park ranger story, that was a park ranger for eight years and there are so many stories and if you start off with one of those, it really gets people. So I'm going to. I'm going to share one that I shared when I spoke at podcast movement last year. So jared, I know you know this one but other people don't so you know how it goes so you'll just have to forgive me for not pulling a new one out for you. But I like this one. So when I was a new ranger at a parks I was at one, I moved to another and I was just doing the rounds, still familiarizing myself with the park and I noticed an outhouse had a door propped open and that shouldn't be.
Speaker 1:10:58So I stopped, pulled the truck over and I got out and I walk up there and I'm going to move the stick that has the door propped open and there's a guy in there and. But he's not, he's not using a house. He has a stick stuck down the whole, you know what I'm talking about right here, the whole and now house. He has a deep down there and I said, hey, introduced myself, Park Ranger, what are you doing? And he said, oh, well I, I dropped a jacket down the hole and I said, look, you don't, you don't want that because it with a stick. I assume that's what he's doing. Fishing it out. And I said, look, you don't want that jacket. We only pumped that thing once, twice a year. It is just nasty down there. You do not want that jacket. Just let it go. He said, no, no, I don't want the jacket, but there's a sandwich in the pocket. You know, I, I like using those funny ones. There's a, there's so many though, from being a park ranger because you would see some crazy things in the park. You'd see a lot of fun things, some crazy things every once in a while, a dangerous thing, but that was the fun part of being a park ranger. I mean, we've got, I've got several stories and granger's getting locked out. How stories and all sorts of great stuff.
Speaker 2:12:23Rachel Atlanta now, what's Tennessee for vacation earlier this summer and we went to a part of east tend, don't know if you're familiar with that, but it's a high, I think the highest. Oh, you've been there. Okay. So it's the highest point in I believe the smoky mountains and kind of a neat path that you can hike up to a observation area. And on a clear day it's beautiful. And your story. It reminded me of this. We went to clingmans dome and parked and it was busy and there was a lot of people there and there were some bathrooms at the bottom of the path before you start hiking up. And I guess my better judgment, I decided to use that bathroom and I went in that bathroom and I mean the minute I went, the second I went in, I knew this was a bad idea. And um, while I'm in there trying not to breathe, trying to figure this out, the bathroom next to me, I can hear the person rowing because because the weather's so bad, I had to get out there and like I, I mean it was a good thing. It was outdoors in the mountains because I, I'm pretty sure I didn't smell very fresh after coming out of there. But just so that made me think of that like that. That was the worst public park bathroom
Speaker 1:13:41for the first time ever on starve the doubts. Jared, we have resorted to potty talk.
Speaker 2:13:45That's not my intent. But uh, I'll say that you started never wanted it to be true,
Speaker 1:13:50but you know, jared park bathrooms to some. Well maybe we shouldn't even get. We should just move on to the next topic.
Speaker 2:14:00I think so. I think there's wisdom in that. Jody, you've had some cool travels this summer. You get to spend some time in Florida and you live in Washington state. Of course. I want to hear about that trip and not just what you did, but what were some things from that trip that really stood out to you as as as being a memory or
Speaker 1:14:18or something that you appreciated? That trip was just incredible. We spent a whole month and Florida and other than two days, two nights at Disneyworld, two nights at key west. It was all at the same spot on the beach and it was great. We saw manatees. I've always wanted to see a manatee in the wild and I was so excited to finally get to see a manatee in the wild and it's first. It's pretty exciting and then about a minute later you realize it's not much different than watching a tree, but it was still exciting to see a manatee. We at to everglades on the way back from key west and saw alligators and those massive grasshoppers you have in southern Florida. The that were just amazing and we saw so much and it was easily the best vacation we've ever had and I did have to work a little bit while I was there.
Speaker 1:15:11But the coolest thing for me was to realize that through hard work and planning that I was able to create something where we could go to Florida for a month and now I didn't get to spend every moment on the beach like my wife and kids. But the fact that we were there in the sunshine during the time, and I know it was June in June, is hot in Florida and you have sunshine all the time, but in Washington state we don't have sun until July. So that was a real treat to spend time in the sun and playing on the beach and playing on the pool and to know that I've created a business that allows me to do that now. I've worked more than I probably wish I would have while I was there. But I still played a lot and got to. Unfortunately our schedules never lined up, but I got to visit some cool people. I was there in Florida and that was, that was fun. I know a lot of people in Florida and I wish I could've got to visit more. But man, what a what a great trip to be able to. You really get to experience someplace in a different way when you're there a month versus if you're there for a week or two.
Speaker 2:16:21Well said. Jody and I was looking at your pictures of instagram throughout that trip and I had to stop because there was a little bit of envy there, jody, but that's because you know how to do a vacation the right way and it looks like you had a great time with the family and certainly well-deserved. So jody will start to wrap up here. This was more just a a fun catch up time. Congratulations on 100 episodes of the jody maberry show that's coming out soon. We kind of touched on that in the beginning and there are some other things you're working on or we can tell your friends on. Starve the doubts will let. Let's just give a preview of what some of the stuff coming up,
Speaker 1:16:57one thing be working on and which may is fitting because you're the one that got me into podcasting. I've been working on a a podcast course to help people learn all that I've learned after 700 plus episodes and hundreds and hundreds of interviews, so that is coming hopefully sooner than later. I've got some great work already done on that. I think I've got. You won't be surprised to hear this, jared. I think I've got another podcast coming out within the next couple of months. I've been. I know on a past episode I said I was working on a book. Well, I've shifted at least twice since then, but in finally getting close to having a book called the nature of business, it's all. It's. It's getting close. I say it's imminently going to be on the books shelf soon, but it's closer than it was yesterday.
Speaker 2:17:57Hey, one step at a time. Right? We've always done. We've always encouraged people. That's right. That's right.
Speaker 1:18:02Hey, my book's going to be on my bookshelf right next year. Booked. Aired
Speaker 2:18:07well. I probably need to write another book. I promised my business partner Dan Franks and I went to hold off on books for a little bit so we could really hone in and dial in on podcast movement and not that we've got everything mastered, but I think we're in a better place than we were two years ago. So I might get that itch to try to pull the God man.
Speaker 1:18:28Here's the other piece, something new that Lee Cockerell and I have started doing. We've done a couple of courses, Jerod, I know you've gone through one of them and we've got more courses coming, but w, one thing that we've started doing is very small live events that we do in Orlando and those are great. We spend one day with a group of 12 people and that's been a lot of fun and it gets me extra time in Florida. So that's another thing that's coming up.
Speaker 2:18:57And uh, and the likelihood of, of you still living in Washington state over the next couple of Canada.
Speaker 1:19:05Wait, it'll start rumors.
Speaker 2:19:08I think it just in case your wife listens to this, that is the correct answer. All right, so jody
Speaker 1:19:17podcast movement. Starve the doubts. 100 episodes of the jody maberry show, and I realized that action is worth so much more than ideas. Man, we have so many ideas, but take action on so few of them. Podcast movement started with an idea, starve the doubts started with an idea that was followed by action. So there it is. Just take action. Pick one of those wonderful ideas floating in your head and take action on it.
Speaker 2:19:43I've heard that quote, the ABC action brings clarity. Yes, I think there's some truth to that.
Speaker 1:19:50Way To wrap it up, jared.
Speaker 2:19:51All right, jody, people can find your jody mayberry.com and all the great podcast you mentioned in this episode and thanks Jen. Thank you for being a guest.