{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.05,"endTime":2.0,"body":"Are we ready for AI to start welding?"},{"startTime":2.0,"endTime":4.22,"body":"Let's find out with today's amazing guest."},{"startTime":4.64,"endTime":5.79,"body":"Mark Barglof."},{"startTime":6.314,"endTime":9.945,"body":"Welcome to the Artificial Intelligence"},{"startTime":6.314,"endTime":9.945,"body":"Podcast, where we make AI simple,"},{"startTime":10.004,"endTime":13.215,"body":"practical, and accessible for"},{"startTime":10.004,"endTime":13.215,"body":"small business owners and leaders."},{"startTime":13.305,"endTime":16.305,"body":"Forget the complicated T talk"},{"startTime":13.305,"endTime":16.305,"body":"or expensive consultants."},{"startTime":16.364,"endTime":19.365,"body":"This is where you'll learn how to"},{"startTime":16.364,"endTime":19.365,"body":"implement AI strategies that are"},{"startTime":19.425,"endTime":22.695,"body":"easy to understand and can 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