{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":2.28,"endTime":4.11,"body":"Is artificial intelligence ageist?"},{"startTime":4.2,"endTime":7.89,"body":"Let's find out today's amazing"},{"startTime":4.2,"endTime":7.89,"body":"special guest, Debra Albert."},{"startTime":8.769,"endTime":12.399,"body":"Welcome to the Artificial Intelligence"},{"startTime":8.769,"endTime":12.399,"body":"Podcast, where we make AI simple,"},{"startTime":12.459,"endTime":15.669,"body":"practical, and accessible for"},{"startTime":12.459,"endTime":15.669,"body":"small business owners and leaders."},{"startTime":15.729,"endTime":18.729,"body":"Forget the complicated Tech"},{"startTime":15.729,"endTime":18.729,"body":"talk or expensive consultants."},{"startTime":18.82,"endTime":21.82,"body":"This is where you'll learn how to"},{"startTime":18.82,"endTime":21.82,"body":"implement AI strategies that are"},{"startTime":21.849,"endTime":25.209,"body":"easy to understand and can 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fashioned."},{"startTime":1744.159,"endTime":1746.409,"body":"I'm not a big Twitter or X person."},{"startTime":1746.409,"endTime":1748.149,"body":"I'm not a big Insta person."},{"startTime":1748.674,"endTime":1755.814,"body":"So if anybody wanted to get ahold of me,"},{"startTime":1748.674,"endTime":1755.814,"body":"they could at Debra Albert NYC at Gmail,"},{"startTime":1755.814,"endTime":1757.734,"body":"and I'm fine to put that out there."},{"startTime":1759.984,"endTime":1760.524,"body":"Amazing."},{"startTime":1760.794,"endTime":1761.934,"body":"We'll put that in the show notes."},{"startTime":1761.934,"endTime":1762.924,"body":"Everyone could reach out to you."},{"startTime":1762.924,"endTime":1766.494,"body":"Thank you so much for being here"},{"startTime":1762.924,"endTime":1766.494,"body":"today for an amazing episode of the"},{"startTime":1766.494,"endTime":1768.324,"body":"Artificial Intelligence Podcast."},{"startTime":1768.924,"endTime":1770.274,"body":"Thank you so much 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