Fighting Monkey is an applied practice for human development through movement. Fighting Monkey practice treats each and every person as a unique universe interconnected with the environment and within its own structure.
Since 2002 Linda and Jozef have been developing the Fighting Monkey Practice through a deep study on cross-motion analysis and with the aim to understand the principles of the human movement, communication and the ageing process.
Jozef has been studying under the guidance of Master Ming Wong C.Y., also a doctor of Chinese Medicine, the internal principles of movement and their relation to health and ageing. Jozef got his ArtD degree on Voice and Movement in 2002 under the supervision of Ludmila Machatsova, who is considered as one of the most influential communication trainers.
Fighting Monkey is an applied practice for human development through movement. Fighting Monkey practice treats each and every person as a unique universe interconnected with the environment and within its own structure.
Since 2002 Linda and Jozef have been developing the Fighting Monkey Practice through a deep study on cross-motion analysis and with the aim to understand the principles of the human movement, communication and the ageing process.
Jozef has been studying under the guidance of Master Ming Wong C.Y., also a doctor of Chinese Medicine, the internal principles of movement and their relation to health and ageing. Jozef got his ArtD degree on Voice and Movement in 2002 under the supervision of Ludmila Machatsova, who is considered as one of the most influential communication trainers.
Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of the Perth fit fam podcast. It's actually episode number 49 and we have a guest all the way from Greece who will be coming to Perth for his fighting monkey courses in October. So I'll let you guys know about that. But as your super fruit check, I think I've got that right. Who, like I said, he's out of a graze. He runs fighty monkey, which is a movement program helping people, um, get better movement back. He will be coming to Perth at Aspen coaching. He Mount Hawthorne from the 19th to the 20th of October for an open workout. And for those who want to learn more in depth information in how to practice the fight inner monkey technique from the 23rd to the 27th of October fall, he's full intensive workshops. So we will put those in the show notes for you guys. But this is episode number 49 with yourself through check. And there's always, the Perth fan podcast is brought to you by a true protein, truest unafraid to cut through the noise of an oversaturated market and break the mold to deliver authentic all natural products with genuine health benefits. And none of the fake stuff, true, have bucked the trend for expensive over-hyped, bad tasting protein powders and supplements packed with false promises to reinvent the marketplace and create, I want a hundred percent natural delicious quality protein with no gimmicks, nothing artificial, and a completely transparent ingredient list if you've never tried it true. I highly recommend jumping on the website, getting a sample pack of their WPO. They've begun testing it out for yourself because 100% guaranteed you love it. It will be the best tasting and quality protein you've ever tried. So that's true protein at dotcom dot. AAU and if you use the code perfect, fantastic, you'll get an exclusive 10% Perth fit fam discount. So that is all Yosef fruit. Check from fighty monkey on episode number 49 of the perfect fan podcast. Don't worry about it, we'll just do the audio. That's all cool.
Speaker 2:I've got to ask. So fru Keck to check fruit check. I knew that. I knew that I would put my Ozzie asset audit and that was me trying to vest not to fruit check. Well let's get this thing kicked off. Yosef. Fruit check. Check from fighting monkey all the way from grace. Yeah. Thank you for nutation dada. That's cool. So, um, you're going to be over here in Perth. We're going to talk about the workshops, um, a little bit later, but you're coming over to Perth for the second time. Um, but you run this culture, this community called fighting monkey, which is going around the world. But tell us a little bit about fighting monkey before we kick off. What is 40 monkey? Okay. You know, like, I get this question very often, but basically it could be, it could be kind of distilled into, into the three
Speaker 3:basic components. And the three basic components are, is how do we acquire skills and knowledge. I mean how we are learning, what is the process of learning? So how are we can from the environment, how we can find a knowledge that is valuable for us and how we can improve our life, right? So there's a first component. Second element is how we express that knowledge. So it means we have spread a knowledge and skills but it's necessary to exchange it. So what is the way having would be expressing the knowledge? And third one, can it be on top of the pool of knowledge that we have? Can it be improved as strategies in order to meet the demands of our everyday life? And of course we are doing it through the millions of movement. We are doing it through the means of movement situations. We are doing it through the means of concepts that we have creative like earthquake resistance architecture. Because it is very difficult to catch the mind only for talking or it's very difficult to just to um, and just to talk about things. But we really need to test them and experience then in this space in order to understand if our knowledge is valuable, if we can truly express it. And if we can improve our way of living.
Speaker 2:So like to summer, like to bring that down cause I'm interested in the knowledge component of it. So how does that apply? Like acquiring knowledge, which is expressed through movement, how does that apply to everyday life?
Speaker 3:Well, uh, life throws at us. You know, if it would be, if you would be talking in a very simple terms so that the listeners would understand, you know, there are only two things you really need to learn in your life. One thing is that you kind of need to love life. Love life means that you do not attend life mechanically. So that means a loving life means that you participating in some creative way. So we are not just a machine. You're not just going to do your workout. You're not just going through your work. You are not, you're not unhappy person. You are thriving. You, you create a meaningful relations. Right? That's, that's one thing is second thing that it's absolutely important component in Avalon life is that life throws at us different challenges. Are we able to solve them? So these are really only two things we need to do in our life. No, not 10 life mechanically. And the second thing, if there is a trouble can be changed at travel that problem into an opportunity and learn something from it. Can we create an interesting network because of course solving problems in life or solving challenges in life is a question of how valuable is your Northern linear neural network or your bodily network, but also then how you lead, how your brain is leaking into other people and how together with other relations you're able to overcome an obstacle then that might come into your life.
Speaker 2:So then to give people a picture, because people are going to be listening to an audio so they can understand what fighting monkey looks like, what happens within a or within a session
Speaker 3:that you do, like how many people are there? How's it run? What does it, what does it look like? Well, you know, you don't always depends on the form of the, let's say the Australian workshop will be around 20, 30 people like this and, and what we will be going through in open workshops or in athletic development work should be, will do, we'll try to kind of cover um, our basic components from breech. Good to my opinion for other like 15, 20 years of research for what could be the components of a good training to basically be a VR. All of our research is based on basically four different assays, different domains. And the first domain is finding your individual biological signature. So for different types of internal training, you are looking for how, what is your composition, what is your unique bio on what you call composition, how even in a practical sense if you're taller or shorter, if, if of what is the competition between upper body and the lower body. Um, in, in a, in a, again, in a kind of oversimplified version of this, you give someone a herbal herbal tea and they have a stomach ache and suddenly the stoma gate is gone and you give the same herbal tea to someone else and it doesn't work. And so we really need to understand not only our unique composition, so what these have homeostats is and how to sustain that health within our system. The rather than alostatic, um, um, interrelation means that how do I achieve my health balance in dialogue with the dynamic environment within VR? That's a first kind of part. So you could imagine this articulating your joints and finding better rhythm and coordination and looking for these invisible connections between movement and function of your organs or your volition or your beautifulness inside of your practice and how your fault, uh, how your Edo Kinesis can change your movement, can change your attendance to your own self. The second domain is a striking form, striking forms. And again, in, in very simple terms is um, if you would be talking about martial arts. So striking forms is boxing. And then from boxing, everything evolves. All other different type of martial arts that are derives from striking but striking us also in relation to anthropology. So the human beings were on four but they stood up and the hands got liberated. The vision got better, language was created and if you are amazing kind of researchers of the landscape, even searching for energy resources and we were able to fro and so we coordinate very well and somehow the domain of coordination, the domain of froing is like experiencing anthropology through movement and other than just learning some kind of sports specific coordinations but understanding but how are we biomechanically move better but also outside of the cultural base. So on, I'm a baseball player so I do movement only these were on my football player, but this kind of what are the PSAP coordinations for a human being because we move in very similar way. You'd be here but two legs, two arms and one head. The third domain is um, by the body practice body by the practice is again wrestling. So striking. Then we go to wrestling. So it is like when two bodies are together. So this is how the society works. So they are, you know, two bodies are closed and so it is from Dutch to heal to do, I'm lost up at the physiotherapy or whatever or going into a direction of wrestling, fighting together, competing together. And as you see throughout different cultures, every culture has striking or wrestling and they are not only a representation of a fighting, they're not only representation of a struggle between other human beings, but it is a way of learning communication. So wrestling can be a beginning of all the healing arts that are done for touch and hugging. It is as important as when you do not touch the kids. When he is born and you do not touch and you do not up their body didn't help them to map the body. They will not develop properly. Right? So these are like at first three domains that are very important for us. This is understanding like a classical physics and then we move in a domain of modern physics in some way. That means how on top of that, very important understanding how, how we function in a physical world, how we express ourselves in our very unique voice. So we call it the tribal dancing, but it doesn't mean that we are dancing around the fire. That I then seeming that I am doing a judo, but I do judo in my very particular way. So then we've been working with the LA Olympic champion in judo. He said, I don't do judge judo, this is my judo. So when you're a sculptor you also Scott in a way you scoped. So you see the world in a very particular angle. So this is the like a four domains and a fifth one is that we in some occasion in some workshops, not in maybe in Australia, we are still discussing what we will be done, but we creating abstract tools and sculpting. So it means you are able to sculpt things and only they do able to change the materials. So yeah, like a newer Lankan Archie architect, you are like, um, you know, someone chemist can do things so it can alter the environment in a very physical sense. So not only conceptualizing about, well I would like my environment be better, but you're able to create a tool and with the tool you can create another tool on it or an object. And if I cover it all, then overall it is training of, of effective communication. So we want to be understood and if you want to understand the world. So these would be like, um, if this would give any image of how the boards are, would look alike, but any kind of conceptual way, this is how I would express what we are doing in the last 15, 20 years.
Speaker 2:So over the, I guess, over the past few years, um, I've seen a massive rise in, um, in this movement sort of culture. So you know, it, uh, Patel has, is we have a lot of calisthenics, body weight, places like Aspen. So where you're going to be at, um, Wim Hoff with a lot of his breathing, um, uh, cold water. Submersion do you think that, um, things like fighting monkey are important in society today because we're so disconnected from being human beings, like we miss out on a lot of these things. Like you say the touch, the connection with the brain, how we're supposed to work, the communication.
Speaker 3:Well it depends. It all depends on how formal or dogmatic is your training. If you're reaching for what do you think is the best for other people or if you rather giving people creative tools that they can improve their own life. So you know, we've been traveling around the globe for for some time and what strikes me the most is that in many different corners of the world people would be in aesthetical way. And this is a negative kind of sense mentioned
Speaker 2:body shape. Like, like the way that we look
Speaker 3:ma, the way the body way the people move, the vocabularies they choose was suddenly very similar to different corners. And, and if you realize this was were very great outdoors cities in they are moving around and somehow we are like a copying machine. We lie on the moon. Society's learning for photocopy, like you get a university book and the library and everything is available. And you know, when I was, I was in university for a really long time and, and I am invited back again university to finish my professor. And um, the, the challenge there is that, you know, like V like to attend things mechanically and I somehow I do not like to participate in cultural evolvement though. I, I if, if I think monkey would become like my agenda for how I like to move and therefore you have to move the same way, then I, I rather do not want to do that other stuff right now and I spend time with my kids and my family and I leave this domain completely. But if my role is to, um, it, it is of course a challenge physical but also, um, intellectual challenge. How can I offer you tools that will help you to improve your, your thinking in your own context rather than absorbing my only my world. So this is a great importance to me. So if, if all the things that are offered are not agenda related and are not manipulative, but there are other offering new solutions for then than he is, then I think it has a great importance. But course it has been here for many, many years and not only now the movement idea is here for this for such a long time. It is only now maybe got more visible in the popular culture. Yeah, that's right. So you mentioned that you've been developing fighting monkey for, I think you said 20 years. So what's your background like where did you come from before doing this? So maybe what is important to say that? Um, I'm not the only brain behind the, the, I do it with my life. So all my vibe, she was a champion of sport gymnastics on a very high level, very successful. Uh, but eventually, uh, she became tall and, and there is a time in your life that you basically need to stop to compete. And then she, she was thinking what to do and she'd throw herself into a physical education. She was, um, she was very good dancer. She'd fro herself into art and also traveled the world. And I had a very similar pathway. My father always wanted the diamond champion in sports. So from a very early age, you know, East to East European kind of spirit or rational like, you know, like this sparked and kind of education. So I was burdened by these idea that I have to be strong and whatever, achieving my life, but I didn't like it that much as a kid. I didn't understand the meaning of it. And I kind of escaped from June. I ran away from the training hole and I, I found a few other school, uh, as a child. And I went there myself and, and I discovered a world of self-expression, voice, um, um, acting fear there. And I understood, wow, this is also an interesting world. But then after, while I fro again, myself big into the sports and until I was selected to national team and then again, a lefty just before, if something would happen again, back bend too into art. So the, both me and my five V were all circulating between in sports too. They had their two worlds within, which in sport do you have defined rules and you know, how to measure things. You put a goal, are you doing with the goal is everything is very clear and aren't on the other hand is all unmeasurable something that is about I see the world in my particular way so I can bend the rules and I can alter the world that I'm attending to. Right. And this combination of these possibilities gave us a much greater spectrum of, of, of, from living options. Right? So, uh, uh, so this kind of started to formulate things and um, of course I have been, I did my doctorate study in university and I spent there many years and I was working with a really great outdoor, it is in, in the field that I've been working in. And so I got up really great knowledge, attitude, how to work systematically and how to, um, put things in order in a way that also someone else would have looked at them. So, so these things were formulating the art that we are, that we are now sharing with other people. But really fighting monkey was publicly open only in 2015 before we were more into festivals and into schools. But only after someone said, well maybe if some other people would benefit as well. So somewhere in may of 2015, we the first public workshop open to anyone.
Speaker 2:I think it's really interesting what you said, like going through art and that opening the horizon, whereas sport is traditionally really structured. Um, when I first got introduced to I guess the calisthenics or the movement culture, um, or Ninja. So Ninja warrior is quite big over here and we have an amazing facility over here. And I couldn't rap, especially in Ninja. I couldn't wrap my head around, um, the facility because I come from a bodybuilding or a CrossFit background where you go in, you, you know, there's targets to meet, there's times to be, there's um, uh, there's competition where in this, it was more, and I've said it on a podcast before, like the handstand culture. I said, it reminds me more of skateboarding. So where we from, like, you know, you have your skaters, they hang out, they just do tricks, but they kind of like live it in a non-structured sort of way. And I think it brings something very different. Um, compared to the industry, which I generally grew up in.
Speaker 3:[inaudible] Hmm. Well, you know, like, uh, it depends what you're interested in. Like I, I was interested, I was working with fire, probably called live fire. Oh, you're[inaudible] how's it going?
Speaker 2:They black the performers, like the dancing performance, the fire, the fire spinners. No, the rescuers. How are you? Oh, firefighters.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Firefighters. People[inaudible] it'd be the people from special forces and[inaudible] mainly discussing about the open concepts, you know, because life unfortunately doesn't go as, as we imagined. I maybe have some plans and strategy and there's some rules, et cetera. But these usually, well, do you use it in your life is a B plot and be plan because things are not evolving as we want them to evolve. And so I was always interested. Okay. The sport is happening between four lines. A rules can be defined and you can be a black belt or you can be a champion in something. But in life it's very difficult to be a black belt. And that is for one simple reason because one of these four lines gets open and the rules are being introduced inside. Their notes before introduce any is similar to a children games. So if I am kitchen oven and then we play hide and seek or catch me, if you can read my kids in, you know I ran after my son and I catch him and he suddenly he turns, any says, no, no, you cannot touch me now. This doesn't come. I said, why doesn't come as well because you cannot touch me on the shoulder. And I say, okay, but we didn't say that before. And he said, no, but I'm telling you right now. And then the game continues and then you touching him again. He said, no, it doesn't count again. And he said, why doesn't count as well? I mean the coroner, coroner is my house and they constantly changed the rules. And you get upset and then you do not want to play and then you want to play and you realize, Oh my God, this is a representation of life. The rules are always being changed. And the question is how fast can you adapt to changing environment and changing rules? So how do you practice in your life? We put in the sentence, how do you practice today if you do not know what tomorrow brings, why you're always repeating the same drills and skills. Well it's obvious because you feel great about yourself because the you leave such a cow, the GoLive you want to finally be in control. So please give me that. Wait and let me lift it five times in a five sets and then I'll give me a two kilogram. So I know I'm making a progress that is something tangible because we are so insecure in ourselves. If you get something unstructured, it really needs much more attention. But we finish our work and we are so tired. So you always ask, please give me something simple and led me to repeat it. So I'm happy about my life. But the question is kind of re Mitha leave human, leave the DV, attend things creatively so, so are inspired. We are able to alter things. We are able to create the creative tools that allow us to be more flexible in life rather than only simply repeating a certain drills and protocols. People always say, I give you a, I give you a protocol how to do this, how to save your elbow. I give you how to maintain your body. You don't want to maintain your body. Your buddy's not a machine is I like interconnected systems you did requires a little bit more attention of yourself. If you just make any clear repeating of workout, they will win. Very little benefit in a long run. So can you clear the practice that gives you energetical surplus? You need more energy and if you need more energy because more energy allows the town's formation. I met so many people they know they have to change something in their life. They know it, but they have no energy to make a change. So they run on the same out on Arctic pilot all the time until they're there. Off their mind until they're very of their body. They end up 60 years old or 50 years old. The Jordan, I'm not working and they're unhappy. So I, I personally wouldn't like to participate in that kind of development. And uh, luckily I had the opportunity to be in a university settings where you know, what is your salary? You know, you have your students so you really can only concentrate honestly in what you're doing. You are not melted through the popular cartoon when you need to run after your students and make them more comfortable. So if of you are sitting ones with my wife, he said, how are we could teach people and is there anything we can be teaching them? And we said no, we gonna be gonna design movement situations within which we test their knowledge and behavioral adaptability. And according to what we see, we will alter the rules again to help them to improve. And we say, what is this type of practice? This type of practice is like if you're teaching your own kids, you don't want your kids to be dependent on you. You wanted the they have, they have abilities to stand on their own feet and eventually leave you and become greater than you. But where in the world you would like to find a master then we like that you become greater than you. If you, if you're giving information to people, you make them more independent and they're more likely will not only stay with you, they will stay with multiple people because we need to draw the information from mold[inaudible] points because if you have a concentration like neuro concentration, if you, if you, if you're, if your movement, let's say if you talk practically, if your movement skills are for like concentrated only one Euro cluster and are not incorporating other parts of your brain vol, then you get the head stroke and that part dies. Everything dies with it. So how do we can create in a training overlapping networks, neural networks, bodily networks and dialogue networks that go into environment, that venue, we are in a time of trouble. We are able to take from different resources, the energy and information.
Speaker 2:Now, one thing that I saw on the website, which I thought was really cool, um, in the opening, I guess start of it with an explainer or 40 monkey. So it says, move with grace as you age, um, create, creating energy surplus to transform obstacles into opportunities. So like how, how does that work? Like how do you guys make that like through the fighting monkey practice, how do you make that happen and who, like who do, who benefits out of it? Who comes to fighting monkey?
Speaker 3:We have our, some of our trainers, they work with kids. Some of our trainers, they work with the elderly people. Um, and someday you, they have these middle, uh, most uninteresting part of the population where everyone is healthy and happy and no one knows what they're doing. So he had them kind of, or not me personally, but fruit and network of people that we work with. They tried our things. People with Alzheimer, people with after injuries. We have people that are running physio clinics and are learning from us. So the application is, is why? Well, it depends. Really magical world ward is always, it depends. So when we have an open workshop and the VI touch on many different things, so um, the usually started with zero forms and we try to understand how does the body works, what is, how do you sound the best you see? Right Northern in relation to your voice, but also to your body interview and explain the concepts of how the training can be composed and how it can be altered in a different situations. When you're healthy, when you're sick, when your joints are not working, then you have already inflammation or how do you practice, it's in the evening, in the morning, how does it affect your wellbeing, etc. Then we go into kind of what we call a movement situation. More situations are obstacle games, obstacle games. That means I, I create a certain obstacle and without any further instruction you're trying to solve those obstacles. They could be games that are relating more like a grappling games, but there are limitations where you can have where you can cannot do or you have to complete some memory tasks while you're moving. And as you're completing this games it's very difficult to be self aware. So it means we are emerging. You immersed in in the game and so you lost yourself there and so you are, I'm a little bit more exposed so we can be observing the per layer of your black. I'm supporting the nation layers if there are some gaps so it means that you're moving perfect but then you have to compute something while you're moving and need to interact with someone else or yanked on someone else. Though there is a great decrease on how you move and what is the quality of human your your your being shows us there are no deficiencies and then we not always on a one person but we take us in general how the group behaves and then we identify those things that they've seen and then if we give a feedback and then we move again into that game and we see if we can improve and then we are observing. What is the process of solving how you basically questioned why some people can adopt debater in life in one side. People why some people always say the same and you're basically, your role as an educator is to help find the tricks, positive tricks, how to attune the person to in a more creating creative way to solve the troubles. So it can be on the layer of your, how you perceived the world and what you bring into existence or how you move purely how, how, how do you move your joints around and if you're damaging them or if you can improve them or it can be in a way you analyze things. So it goes through all the layers and you really need to understand it. We don't have developed systems in the body. They are just, there is just one system. There is no like upper body and the lower, but there is only one Barbie ended one by these a one animal. And unless the one body moves in a rhythm and call proper coordination, there is no kinetic potential because the[inaudible], when we say how the human body develops, so we say coordination, Meriden, kinetic potential, power, exploration and strength and the strengths comes only at the end. But of course our society's focused on strength because we think its, we going to solve the trouble. But actually it is the rhythm and coordination. How, because your knowledge has to be placed in the right time and space. Um, what we are interested in how we act in uncertainty and risk because when life is easy and you have an endless amount of time and energy to research and then see how you apply your knowledge, every feeling is okay. But did you usually act under, um, circumstances of pressure and so how you argue in circumstances of pressure, how you, what is your perception of the space? Which kind of solutions you're finding it center now with the, with the um, fighting monkey classes and the education that's provided, how is it usually practice? Is it usually in a group class environment or a people that, um, participate, um, within fighting monkey? Did they get the skills to be able to do things like at home as well? Hmm. Okay. Is it like a, is it like a daily thing or is it like a, you just go to class and do it at class. Okay. Okay. So they have different layers when it comes to zero forms is something extremely sophisticated. So there is at the moment online coaching if someone would do are there is more than 700 tutorial widows that we help run on. There is a one on one dialogue all those. So you kind of still keep it a very high class exclusive things. So when you work with who doesn't on online coaching there is nothing automated means that VR having a dialogue together, the identifying what might be the possible solutions or how are we going to go around, what is, what has to be improved. They are supporting videos, 700 videos plus we are filming in you in case there is a necessity. So this is like a super top thing. We work with people from NHL and some very special individuals. Then um, and that also when you are even, let's say you've been in a workshop and you're like the zero forms very much you finger, you might be benefiting and so going. So you can always buy an online course on the, on legs or on spine, etc. So there is also this thing, but VRV it is organized in such a way that you need to see us in order to buy it. Meaning that via are not making it easily accessible to anyone. So you are in us and you see it and you'd say, wow, in 12 weeks I'll be done. And I have fun. I have a special progression and I understand it all. We are organizing our knowledge in a little bit more, um, challenging way. So it means you need to study. And of course that some people would say it's stupid for mine company. Why do I not prom it and make it easier? But you know, it's, I, I believe humans are very creative. I believe humans are complex. And so we need to train it in a complex way. And um, and I, I still like doing the best people in such a way that in 20 years there will be giving me a good feedback, not been three weeks or three. So this is another aspect. And then of course we give them a lot of educational cycles that they can follow with us. So, so during the workshop you have things that you can learn in the moment, but you can also require more in depth information later on when it finishes. So these are, so yes, these are the different layers. Um, Bob of course. And I told you that I, uh, I do not like to teach people for photocopy, so they're active. They need to be active participants over their education. But of course people don't have to be scared, you know, it's not like they go to university, but it's,
Speaker 2:it probably does this study now with, um, cause you, you mentioned, um, you work with an NHO athletes. Um, so my question was, and what I find interesting is with fighting monkey and getting these movement patterns, um, uh, both a kinetic, um, is it suitable as like a supplementary program to someone who is an athlete, a runner, a CrossFit, a, you know, whatever. Or is it like a standalone sort of thing where people will just do fighting monkey and that's their fitness program?
Speaker 3:Well, I, um, well these are very good questions. So just not to, um, first thing not to make myself bigger than I am. It's not like a whole world trying to train with us and anybody have all the golden, my dailies via some, some really high level people. But mainly it is for ordinary people. And this is my main interest because we always look up in the sports, but do we need to understand that sport is an entertainment and people I usually abused there, the reason why athletes would come is because they need to help their joints and they need to continue their career. That's why some of those meetings are happening. If nothing is happening and you're healthy and there's no problem, you don't need anything extra, right? If you're on books or just books, if you're a football player, just play football. But if you had a concussion or you have a repeatedly problem in your knees, then maybe you will search for our help and you search for alternatives because you cannot always depend on a physical scanning in. It's fixing you buddy. You need eventually create a training partner and it will allow you to self heal and creative creative properties that will allow you to execute your sport better. Right now if you want to. Yes, you can. They will be always things that we will be missing because in Yvonne avant, no matter how creative the domain or fighting monkeys, it cannot cover the individuality and cannot cover the different contexts in which people leave. So I can do very well with fighting because it includes the[inaudible] include boxing and either includes of wrestling, interview with[inaudible], our games are being developed with a national coach and a free guy who grew a world champions. Right? So, uh, I've worked with people in boxing that has grew, uh, really great, uh, great fighters. So the consult with those people. So you have, you have quite the reach training, um, training opportunities. But what I believe in personally, of course I would like to the whole world, he's doing only fighting monkey and I'm the best master in the world and they all love me and I, and I sold over and follow their alive. But in that is of my heart. I know that you're a climber. So what do you need to do? Fighting monkey? Well you need to do fighting like only to the extent that maybe you need more attention how you attend to the rock. You may be needing more healthy shoulders or maybe you need a better coordination in some aspect that you cannot do alone but you need that someone looks at you. So then then this is a very, this is very important. Or, or maybe you, maybe you're a boxer and you had um, you had a concussion and so can we improve your balance or can we improve again, your vision or can be improved more your mood, food, food works. So you might be, you might be solving the troubles in the morning. Easy way when it comes to us sport-specific solutions, if we always need to collaborate with experts from their field, how anyone would expect that. Me or anyone else from any other methods around the world from movement would solve problem from any sports. If you don't understand those sports. So there is a trainer, there is a culture is a strength conditioning coach, etc. They don't understand the very crucial aspect of strategy and the different demands and demands of those sports. So we are coming in as if someone who refreshes the air and someone who gives it another kickstart, you know, so you can start on you and you can see things that otherwise were infeasible for you. And we sometimes use very unorthodox methods for it. So it means we can shutter your world sometimes. I mean if he pro everything the garbage and we start to rebuild again and that the rebuilt moment can also does something really refreshing to your nervous system. And so you can maybe have more vision, desire to move and improve.
Speaker 2:Now you have traveled around the world with fighting monkey doing your workshops. He'd come into Perth. But what's your highlight been so far? Um, since kicking off in 2015? I'm sure you would've seen a lot of things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my live or uh, you know, when, when I, when I get person that fought, when I get person that seen our practice and they say they cannot do it and they are doing it and they are, health is improving, that's a, that's the biggest success. If someone posts something on Facebook or Instagram and the um, you know, we are not supporting that very much. But mainly when someone writes me an email and said, Joseph, I've, I think I've benefited. It seems like on a longer I have benefits. That for me is like the, the greatest reward. And that's why I at this very moment is we are talking right now I feel like a multimillionaire because um, it's kind of investment makes me happy. That kind of social rewards for me is the highlight of, of my work. There are also these bright things, you know, and where you get the most of our plows or people like[inaudible] clique. But in fact these things are coming in going and didn't give me this kind of longer-lasting rash on of endorphin in my structure. You know, so I I get, I as a person get very happy for from invisible from a small changes. And so because I am attentive to a small, um, I can be a longer happy, um, I don't need the really great, um, ovation in order to smile in my day. I, I am, I'm happy when I see my kid's face and I recognize their faces. They knew again that that makes me an an then it gives me a great fuel to continue the day or to continue the work that I'm doing.
Speaker 2:That was really, really well put. Really nicely said. So fighting monkey will be coming to Perth. You are doing two workshops while see here. So the open workout on the 19th and 20th and then the full intensive course on the 23rd to the 27th of October. So first of all, the 19th and the 20th of the open workout. So who should go to that and what should they expect?
Speaker 3:Everyone should come and they should expect the mortality. They will all get the mortal and healthy for the rest of the[inaudible], which is happy and smiling. And the light obeyed by them.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's a good page.
Speaker 3:All right. In, in, in an ideal, in an ideal world. And of course they will get challenged. They'll need to change in a nicely away. It's not challenging in a sense that they will get broken in home and they will feel like, Oh, I cannot do anything. But they will get challenged in a way how the, how we question the things and let's see what, uh, we will be testing how healthy are their joints, which can be sometimes very, um, not very pleasant many times. But for many times this is, this is a great feedback. You get a feedback, well in my hips, I am 25 years old or maybe my hips are as old as 50 years old person. And it's amazing because you rather realize that before the trouble is there. And so you have enough time to do something about it. Um, so that's an open workshop and in the intensive I will be giving two people 200 pages book there, will give beginning some other presents and I'll be sharing with them my research. And, um, you know, research pathways for, um, establishing for Dem cells a better movement practice and maybe developing for them sense of the best landscape, uh, as a, as a features, as a coaches, as someone as a tap out with these or[inaudible] teachers in their schools or whatever. So then an intensive is mainly to terrain to get the battle go in depth of underlying aspects that you've burst to those different beautiful things that you can share on social media.
Speaker 2:So with the intensive, if somebody does the intensive and they're a personal trainer or a coach, does that allow them to be able to like do they become part of a fighting monkey network where they can teach these methods to people or is it not like that? It's just for their own personal
Speaker 3:education? Oh, this is very well placed question. I mean we are questioning this all the time. So you participate in, you get a great amount of information. If you can always use the inflammations anyway you will. Like there is no policemen that is going behind you and telling you what you can or you cannot do. If you would like to associate yourself with doesn't sound weird because you feel inspired of you. We are here to support your development and eventually you might become an fighting monkey instructor or teacher eventually over some domain. So there's this educational pathway that is opening via opening it slowly. Um, as I said is not the best economical model, but it's the honest model. So it doesn't mean because you pay, you're going to get everything you pay and you participate. But we also need to see how you're working. So you spread a good work and you spread a good practice so it doesn't get all 10 just because I want to have more certified teachers so it spreads like a virus. Um, and, and, and also if anyone, um, if anyone feels interested, there is a plenty of opportunities to visit us again and alter the practice towards their needs and towards their environments.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love how you've put it, uh, how you've positioned yourself and fighting monkey that you could expand it, you could grow, you could license things out, but for you, like the quality is like very important. And then keeping things very genuine, genuine, and um, uh, not commercials. So yeah, it's, it's really fresh to hear.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not easy. He's a but because of course if people have expectations that we, Oh, you know, our people, we have like 80% return, um, people that have been working with us, so I'm, I'm very happy, but then of course they expect eventually to gain something from it. So I am, I am exploring that together with my students, not to get every my business partner right. So we have discussing with the students is the way that you would feel comfortable and, uh, qualified on spreading the news. Right. So you cannot be fortified in everything in immediately. How are you going to be qualified in anything in today's workshop or the one year? You know, maybe I'm coming from a more, I don't know how to say that. You know, I, I, for my PhD, when I was younger, I spent eight years to kind of complete the research and, and at the end I finished it. I was, well, what? It wasn't well done. And you know, I have permission from a, one of the really great Chinese doctors did these really respected person and published many books and been in a national Chinese committee about traditional Chinese medicine. I have a diploma from dead guy and no one even knows because I don't just don't feel qualified. I mean teaching those for which I go the diploma. So I don't give a courses on, on Chinese medicine[inaudible] we give a courses on kind of cheat codes or whatever because I, I, I think it requires another maybe 20 years. But in some aspects it's shared with the other people. Not necessarily when you go the diploma that you know anything. It's very beautiful. You know, I enjoy my title in front of my name and behind my name and you know, I'm, I'm still continuing the academical, um, achievements, but it's more like a joke rather than truth because Hillary and other ways of practice because he is something is reading a book. And another thing is, can you put the book in practice? Can you actually find an application for what years or GC? Just staying as a territory.
Speaker 2:That's cool. I love it. I love it. It's a really good wide set. Um, Yosef, thank you so much from Bay Dodd. So the 19th or the 20th of October and the 23rd to the 27 and um,
Speaker 3:we will put links to your Instagram and the courses in the show notes and push them out there for people. But um, I look forward to catching up when you're in Perth. Perfect. Perfect. I, I'm very happy to see you all and a muscle you up and challenge your thinking and movement skills.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Okay.[inaudible] thank you very much. So there we go. That is episode 49 of the Perth fit fam podcast with the creator of fighting monkey Yosef through check coming to Perth on the 19th of the 20th of October and also the 23rd to the 27th of October at Aspen coaching in Mount Hawthorn. The details will be in the show notes, or if you'd like to know more, just feel free to shoot us a message and we'll point you in the right direction. And I think that's it. And as always, stay tuned for more of the Perth fitness and become.