Faith, Fear, and Finding Truth in Troubled Times

Clay and Elsa reunite after two weeks apart, revealing they've finally met in person after three years of friendship and two years of co-hosting. The pair reflect on how their different perspectives create the perfect balance for the show.

• Minneapolis school shooting reveals society's failure to address mental health issues and gender dysphoria
• National Guard deployment in cities shows immediate crime reduction but lacks sustainability without policy changes
• Cracker Barrel's rebranding disaster demonstrates the consequences of abandoning traditional customer base
• CDL language requirements debate highlights the importance of safety regulations for commercial drivers
• Ukrainian conflict continues as Zelensky refuses to negotiate despite Putin and Trump's willingness to end fighting
• Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce engagement demonstrates brilliant celebrity branding and marketing strategy

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Chapters

• 0:01 Show Introduction and Reunion
• 5:44 Minneapolis Tragedy and Mental Health
• 21:30 National Guard in US Cities
• 31:36 The Cracker Barrel Logo Controversy
• 48:39 Truck Driver CDL Requirements
• 55:25 Russian Soldiers and Ukraine War
• 1:01:30 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce Engagement

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

It's the Elsa Kirk Show, with Clay Novak serving up trending news and conservative views Brought to you by the Elsa Kirk Collection and Refuge Medical. And now it's time for the show.

Speaker 2: 0:22

So I'm looking at this guy on this screen here and you look familiar. Do I know you from somewhere. I feel like it's been forever. It's been like a million years. It's been two weeks. I know how are you Clay.

Speaker 3: 0:36

I'm good and it's been two weeks, but in those two weeks we actually met in person for the very first time. I know it's weird, but after three years of three years of knowing each other and two years of doing this podcast, elsa and I finally met. I don't know if y'all saw it on social media or not, but here it is. Here it is here is.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Clay and Elsa finally together in person for the first time ever. And I'm with you, clay. I don't know how many people had any idea of this, like I don't think probably a lot of people don't really even know the backstory, because we've we've been so blessed to acquire some new, new friends who follow the show and join us on here. Um, so, very quickly, guys, um, clay, clay and I met, like Clay said, like three years ago, right, Um, I interviewed you for your book keep moving, keep shooting, the, uh, the original version, and and here's where it got kind of funny so we did our interview is great, liked each other right off the bat. It was just a really easy time. And then, you know, as what happens, we didn't. You know, we were friends on social media, I think, but hadn't spoken to each other in a while. And then you had the idea to reach out and say hey, if you're, you know, looking for a guest again, I'd love to come back on and, you know, talk some more about cause, yeah, I think you're working on your second book and all that kind of stuff, right? And at that same time, in the same timeframe that you uh sent that email, I was in the thought process that I wanted to add a co-host, because I was just doing it by myself and you know it was fine. But it gets for me and maybe even for you guys, the viewers and listeners it gets a little boring listening to just one person blather on about their thoughts and opinions and blah, blah, blah, and I was like gosh, I'd really like a co-host, but who? I just don't know. Who, who would I pick? How do I even go about finding somebody that would be interested? Oh, it's going to be such a process.

Speaker 2: 2:29

And then I opened Clay's email and I went hang on a second and I pulled up our interview and I went yeah, this guy is like the perfect counter to me, to my personality, because we're very different. We have the same kind of values and you know, and beliefs generally and all that kind of stuff, but different perspectives, different ways and everything. I'm like and that's I don't want. I don't want another who wants another me. You know everybody is supposed to say we all do, elsa, we all do, it's okay, it's okay. Stop, guys, stop. No, I'm kidding, um. So so I was like, oh, this is perfect, this is a great balance, and and so I, without really honestly giving it more than a few minutes of thought. Um, I'd love to say I'm a big deep thinker like that, but I am. It's not impulsive, it's just quick decision-making. Um, I was like Clay would be perfect, I'm going to ask him. And I did. And you were like are you? Are you serious, right? Did you actually think I was kidding, or?

Speaker 3: 3:28

I thought so, but it was very, you know, a little bit surreal. And so I was like, yeah, yeah and but that it's been two years. And, truthfully, we it was really right about now because I think we came back like I did, I think, one episode, and then you were like, hey, I've got like two weeks of vacation plan, which has now become normal for us every year in August, and you were like, so we did the one episode and then and, and then we've been back since then and it's been two years solid. So but we've never met people. Like never in all of that time I've never met in person. And I was, you know, up near Elsa a couple of weeks ago seeing some family and saw an opportunity and we went and had lunch together and, you know, had a blast. Listen, we were sitting across the table from each other. It was literally just like this. It was the exact same. It was so funny.

Speaker 2: 4:23

It was so abnormally normal. Normal yes.

Speaker 3: 4:26

That's a great, great description, but you know, we took that photo before we left and then you posted it and I reposted and I was just telling Elsa this before we started recording, I got more responses from people that were like that's a lucky guy, I wish I was him. Blah, blah, blah. Let me tell you, folks. I will tell you that Elsa is everything in person that you see on the screen. That's honest truth. She is exactly what you think she is. It was great. It was great to have lunch and great to meet in person. Listen, in two weeks off we got a bunch of stuff to catch up on. Story time is great, but, uh, we got some stuff to talk about yeah so I'm actually really glad that we could.

Speaker 2: 5:10

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm so glad we started a little bit, a little bit light, because we we have to jump right into something that's really heavy, um, really upsetting, and um, I honestly I'll be honest, clay, I was absolutely dreading even talking about this. I have such a hard time Mother, grandmother, father, I have that these people aren't dealing with this reality right now, and obviously we know that that is not the case, especially in what we do as part of our chosen job here to talk about the incredibly difficult, upsetting things. I know that everybody already knows. All of our watchers and listeners already know the story. I will recap this very quickly for you.

Speaker 2: 6:05

A brutal act of violence shook Minneapolis, minnesota, this week when a 23, I thought it was 22, but I have here 23-year-old biological male Robin formerly Robert legal name changed, so I'm referring to this person as Robin Westman opened fire at Annunciation Catholic School, killing two children and injuring 17 others before taking his own life. Despite claiming a transgender identity, the facts are clear he was a man who targeted innocent kids in a house of God. Federal investigators are weighing hate crime charges against Catholics. The tragedy has reignited the debate over mental illness and security in faith-based schools and the destructive culture that lies and denies truth and enables this kind of chaos. So that's my personal takeaway on that. What are your thoughts, clay, and your perspectives on this, please?

Speaker 3: 6:59

Yeah, just a little forewarning folks. I'm pretty salty about this. I'm pretty upset for a lot of reasons my language might be a little harsher than it normally is. When this happened, the first reports came out, my brain did what it does I went through analytics right away. We've all learned. I learned in the military for years. First reports are always wrong. I waited. I honestly didn't follow for probably the first hour, maybe two hours. I learned in the military for years. First reports are always wrong. So I waited. I honestly didn't follow for probably the first hour, maybe two hours. I didn't read anything about it other than headlines because I knew the details were going to be probably misreported or misrepresented. But my brain was cycling. So it was initial reports of Minneapolis, initial reports of a Catholic school, and my brain went to probably Somali, because there's a heavy Somali Muslim population, as we all know, in Minneapolis. So I went to domestic terrorism or terrorism in general, and then you know the thoughts of Catholics specifically, because you don't see that often. You know targeted religious site. So then I waited and everything you know, targeted religious site. So then I waited and everything you know kind of unveiled itself with some clarity.

Speaker 3: 8:10

So then the reports came through of a trans, you know, individual, and then it went immediately to mental health, which is what this is about. And so you know, for those of you that do or don't know or follow this, you know there's a manual for mental illness. It's the DSM, I think. Five is what it is. Um, gender dysphoria, which is what leads people to a trans uh procedure or trans lifestyle, is no longer classified as a mental illness, which is tragic, because what it also says in there is, while it's no longer classified as a mental illness, the people who suffer from gender dysphoria and they've renamed it to something else, something lighter, something less offensive tend to suffer from significant other mental illness issues or mental illnesses, and that, and so you know, they've clouded the issue by saying, yeah, they've got mental issues, but this isn't one of them, which I completely disagree. I think gender dysphoria, especially when it leads to mutilation of your own body, you know, is a mental illness. That is a mental illness. I think that we are, you know, softening this to the point where we're excusing it. There was a lot of follow-up yesterday about how many trans or trans-associated people have been responsible for mass shootings in the last few years. The number is astronomically high if you haven't looked at that. And then immediately, of course, everybody turns around and wants to pull guns instead of some of the key facts, which are mental illness one. Two parental responsibility.

Speaker 3: 9:40

By the way, this transition started before this individual was 18 years old, endorsed by the parents, who I found out this morning, and I don't know if this I would assume 24 hours or 18 hours afterwards, this individual's mother worked at this school. So now you've got a religious hate crime like there clearly was motivation against either the Catholic Church or the mother who worked at the Catholic church. You know I hate my parents because they allowed me to do this to myself. We all know that there's. You know, in a trans world, there's tons of stories of regret that happened as these people who transitioned as children grow into adults. I think that this person was suffering from that and lashed out.

Speaker 3: 10:21

You know, I think there was tons of mental instability, anger, issues, but of course, people and I'm taking a breath, people like Jen Psaki and I've got a list of names in the back of my head right now that I would like to call her and others. You know their immediate reaction is to blame guns and not everything else associated with it. And she, of course, also went after religion in a very backhanded way. I don't know if you saw her comments, but it was the typical thoughts and prayers aren't enough, praying is not enough, you know. Basically she said your religion is irrelevant in this discussion and that action needs to be taken. Well, that's exactly what Jen Psaki and people like her, the liberal left, want. They want to whitewash and rid the nation of religion. They want a godless thought process in anything and everything that we do, and it's relevant and it's apparent in everything they say.

Speaker 3: 11:13

When you've got an adult like this, who has severe mental issues, who has no problems going in and shooting and killing children, this starts with the legitimization of abortion. I'm sorry, I don't care what your opinion is, but when you start with it's okay to kill unborn children, then all of your belief system is based there. The irrelevant value of human life goes out. That is your baseline and I don't want to hear any other sympathy. And I am so sick and tired of the excusal of the. You know, oh well, this person's trans. You know the mayor of Minneapolis yesterday, you know, was blaming Christians, was telling Christians stop praying to. You know this is. You know, stop blaming the trans community. Stop, you know, seriously, shut the F up. I'm tired of it, I really really am. Shut the F up. I'm tired of it, I really really am. And everybody who is on board with this truthfully is sick. They have serious, serious moral and ethical issues, and Jim Kostacki is the epitome of it right now, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 12:17

Listen, if I nodded my head in agreement any harder, I would have whacked my forehead on the microphone because you are spot on, 100% in everything that you just said. I fully, fully agree and I especially love your reference to justifying and excusing and accepting normalizing because they love that word normalizing abortion. Yes, the devaluing of God-given, god-created life is unacceptable in any way, shape or form, and excusing and justifying it is the beginning of the depravity, really. And to allow and then we move into this agreeing with someone with gender dysphoria that their, that their body, that they were born in is wrong and bad and they should mutilate it and they should take hormones and drugs and things to stop the natural biological process of your body and your brain, knowing we know now the impact. We have enough cases and enough studies that have been done on the long-term effects on this. We witness what is happening with these people Mental illness period, like that is what this is. It's not guns, it's not. And, by the way, I'm not going to. You know, clay and I have had a pretty longstanding agreement that we're not going to give platform to these evildoers, to these people showing the videos of the person. They're out there, they're all over X If you want to see them. We won't have our feelings hurt if you step away and want to go watch those, and I'm not knocking you if you choose to watch them. We just agree that we're not going to be ones to give them more of a platform than what they deserve. I would rather give the attention to the victims and the victims' families, and the other thing that I have been doing and will always continue to do, despite the Jen Psaki's of the world, is to pray for the victims and for the families and for the communities and for this world and for this country and everyone and everything in it.

Speaker 2: 14:45

So, no matter what these jackasses say to the contrary, prayer is incredibly powerful, it is comforting, it is effective, it does so much. And for those that tell you that your thoughts and prayers are invaluable and they mean nothing in cases like this, you are incredibly woefully misguided as to the power of prayer and the purpose of prayer. Prayer is not like rubbing a genie bottle and getting wishes granted, and I think that's where some of these people tend to get maybe willfully confused about it. When we pray, we're not making wishes to a genie. We are praying for the outcomes and the things that we want, but we are trusting in God and that his will is greater than our own and that his comfort can sustain us through the most horrific moments and times in our life. These are man-made incidents. These are man-created, not God-created. God did not create what happened here. He is not responsible for it. Evil people are responsible for it. People who promote evil and who instigate evil and who justify evil are to blame here. So we turn to God to comfort us and to guide us in our words and our actions and our behaviors. And yeah, I mean that is the purpose and the power of prayer, and I do think that prayer is one of the most powerful, meaningful things that you can do. So if anybody tells you otherwise, pardon me, but they can suck it.

Speaker 2: 16:27

So sorry, I had to go lowbrow there for a second. Somebody will come at me for like, oh, you were doing so good, elsa, until you said that, listen, there's so much more that the me in me and this is my phrase that I like to use the me in me would like to say the very same words that clay wanted to say as well um, I'm yeah, so yeah, um, and I. I learned from you clay in, in taking that pause in the commenting and the sharing and all of that um, because, as, as I've been open with before, I have bitten my own bottom in the process of, you know, doing that, sharing things too soon and without knowing. And I did as I researched some images and things for this topic, I came across the first early postings of what was happening and, of course, it was a picture and a name of somebody completely different than who it ended up to be and they're like this is the you know reported shooter and this is their name and their picture and all that stuff, and like it's just some dude. It's just some dude who has nothing to do with anything.

Speaker 2: 17:32

But yeah, what it comes down to is that we have to actually address the deeper issues here, which is the mental illness, which gender dysphoria is a hundred percent a part of that, that needs to be reinstated into that, that those documents that you were mentioning needs to be put back in there. And, honestly, I think anyone who is and maybe I'm, maybe I'm getting wild here, but I personally feel like anybody who is performing these surgeries and prescribing these altering drugs and medications, medications and these parents who are, you know, championing? Championing this, um, I feel like it's criminal. I, I feel like it's criminal. I, I truly and genuinely do. There needs to be a greater, broader accountability for the mental decline that is happening, because it's not just like wow, how did this happen. There's a very clear path that you can see, because it's not just like wow, how did this happen. There's a very clear path that you can see how it's happening. So to deny it is just simply sticking your head in the sand and pretending that that's not the case.

Speaker 2: 18:35

And the other thing, clay, I wanted to touch on with that is, you know and this is definitely a big left and right divide obviously I want to see armed guards outside of these schools. I want to see armed, I want to see people who are able to be armed in these facilities, whether it's a school or a church, whatever the case is. Guns allowed, signs and rules out of your spaces where they're, particularly especially where there are children bullshit that you don't think those kids should be protected at all costs. You're going to protect, uh, celebrities and politicians and government people. I mean, are you kidding me? Right now, they're protected by armed guards and gates and walls and locks and all of those things, but our children, the most precious thing on the planet, is not going to be protected. Screw you, bullshit.

Speaker 3: 19:34

Yeah, and I'm, you know, I've always been an advocate for the number one thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun done. I've also said many, many times that there's an entire veteran population that has, you know, that would love to be involved in this type of protection. And listen, I'm honest and I understand who. You know who I am and where you know my background lies and the people that I have served with over the years Not everybody just because you're a veteran doesn't mean you're cut out for that kind of work and there still needs to be vetting done and those kinds of things. However, I think there's a lot of availability out there and a lot of people who would want to do that, to take that on, and I think it's appropriate at this point for all the reasons that you said, which is, we guard everything, up to and including our money, with armed guards, but we don't guard our children, and I think it's misaligned. I think you know this is an environmental nature versus nurture kind of discussion as well. The state of Minnesota is clearly a place that has some issues environmentally and I'm not going to blame everything on Governor Walz. Okay, as much as I would like to, because the guy's a big dum-dum and he's got his own issues. But you know this is well before him and you know. But it's nurtured by people like him in that state, clearly so. And I'm not hating on all of Minnesota, people don't freak out. But but if you live there, you probably know and realize what you're living in Very much. Like you know people who live in and around New York City or live in Southern California or live outside of Chicago, like those folks know that the debacle that their states and their localities are in, and I'm sure if you live in Minnesota, you probably feel it as well, especially if you're a conservative. So you know that that is a, it's an issue across the board. You know, and, please, you know Jeff Psaki again comparing us I think it was her comparing us to Europe like, oh, all these European countries have figured this out. Why, you know? Yeah, I know, but they have knife attacks every day and they're hurt with it, right, you know? And, truthfully, for a bunch of liberals who keep calling President Trump a dictator, you would think that getting rid of guns is about the last frigging thing that they really want to do, right? So it's all disconnected and it's all messaging and it's all bullshit because they just want to get rid of guns.

Speaker 3: 21:43

You know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist to the point of where this was a planned and planted incident for that specific purpose. There are a lot of people out there who are like that. I believe this is, you know, just a simple case not simple, but a case of, you know, mental illness and a severe problem with an individual, and that's kind of where we sit. Let's not belabor this anymore. This is a terrible topic and I think we did it all. So not that we've got a lot more light until maybe the end, but We'll get there, guys. We will.

Speaker 2: 22:11

We've got a couple lighter ones. We've got to get through the tough stuff first and to close out, you know, for my Christian family out there, I want to close out that topic with just saying to you the Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, and that is from Psalm 34, 18. And that's a little stick it to the Jen Saki's of the world. So, yes, I close it out with a little little faith and a little snark. Let's move on to the troops in our cities. Law and order or political theater. You take it from the top, go ahead.

Speaker 3: 22:44

Yeah, so I'm not a fan of this and I know there's a lot of folks who are fans of President Trump and that are fans of this, my, my. The reason I'm not for this is because it's not sustainable, clearly, in the short term. There has been a massive impact in Washington DC. All the stats show it. Crime is down, violent crime is down. Um, you know, street vendors are saying this is great, I can actually walk around and not be worried about getting mugged or or or whatever, and the impact has been immediate. Um, so that is that's. I'm not against it for that reason, but I'm against it because the policy in the city of Washington DC and as this expands to other cities, which is probably what's going to happen until you change the policy, until you implement more law enforcement you know, capability in terms of officers or whatever it is, or even just policy and prosecution by state's attorney, district attorneys this doesn't change unless you keep the National Guard there forever.

Speaker 3: 23:42

I wrote a blog about this this week and they can't stay there forever. None of us need them or want them to stay there forever, so there has to be a better solution and, in the meantime, most of those National Guard members are not trained to do this. And now we're going to arm them. They've been authorized to carry pistols and, in some cases, rifles, and things have been fairly quiet in Washington DC. I would tell you, if it expands to places like Chicago, it may not stay quiet.

Speaker 3: 24:08

And now you've got these kids, these National Guard members, men and women, standing on street corners who are now at risk, and not just of getting injured but of injuring someone else. Right, and I know it's easy to say that's what they signed up for, but in a law enforcement capacity and you understand this as a cop's wife. You know these kids are not trained police officers. They are not trained to enforce the law. They're being put in place to augment the police department, but if you're short, pick your number 2,000, 4,000, 8,000 officers when the National Guard leaves these cities go back to what they were, and that's why I don't like this as a solution. It's soldiers on our streets as part of law enforcement. None of us should be happy about this as a long term solution, but the problem is there is no other long term solution, and that is my greatest fear Right Now.

Speaker 2: 25:05

Those are great points, that's, you know I've I have felt conflicted about it, you know. You see, I agree. You see, you see, the short term results, where the crime stats are, have gone down dramatically, and that's, you know, that's a big yeah, that's exactly what needed to be done. So, you know, I guess my perspective would be pretty similar in that, like, listen, if we're calling this a reset, like this, we just hit the restart button and just kind of brought it back down to more normalcy, I guess, more law and order, wonderful. But yeah, what's, what are the next steps? And how do you walk them back now and give this power back to?

Speaker 2: 25:46

And I think I think the answer is that, you know, we have to go to even the courts. Like, we can't get the courts to do what they're supposed to do, which is lock up bad people. They keep sending them out. You know so. And my heart, as, as is obvious, and of course you know and anyone who knows anything about me, my heart always immediately, automatically goes to law enforcement, because they are out there trying to do their damn job, which is make the streets safer for people and for citizens, and to just simply do their job, and they do their job, and they do the job, and then the courts let them out again, and it's just this and this has been going on. This is decades long. This isn't anything new. This is why we've gotten to where we're at Right, to why it's so bad, exactly why we've gotten to where we're at, right To why it's so bad?

Speaker 2: 26:36

Exactly right, you know. So, you know I guess the answer is is it even an answer? Like the solution has to become how do we get the courts to do what they're supposed to do? And I know that that's, you know, easy to ask and harder to answer, because you know you're talking about overcrowding in prisons and this and that and how we categorize crimes, and you know, I know that this is such a bigger conversation than what I'm making it sound like here, but it has to be addressed Like we can't just go. Well, that's really hard, I guess we can't do anything about it. No, you kind of have to do something about it.

Speaker 2: 27:14

And you know and I love that, I love this as a first step, I love this, as you know, what feels like the reset button for you know, these cities and these areas that are just so overrun where people, you know, just don't feel safe going out anywhere. So great, restart. But make a plan for what's next. And I don't know, clay, I mean, are they? Have you heard anything like okay, so here's, we've, we've done this, we've got the National Guard out there, we've kind of restored the, the peace and law and order here. Next we're going to have you heard anything.

Speaker 2: 27:49

No, so, that is I agree that is a problem Like we need what's next, like what do we do? What are we going to allow the police to do? You know, basically, my question is more of are we going to allow the police to actually do their jobs, and are the courts going to enforce the laws? You know and I think that's that's kind of where I'm standing on it that you know, are the courts going to enforce the laws and if not, what are we going to do about that? Right, I don't know. What are we going to do?

Speaker 3: 28:14

about that, right, I don't know. Yeah, you know you've got, and People I've seen people like, oh well, you know they're targeting all of these blue states when really crime rates in red states are higher. And the reality is is that you know the crime rates in blue cities inside of red states are where the problems are Right. But when you've got a place like let's just take, you know you could take New York, you could take Chicago, you could take LA, where you've got a, you know, democratic governor, you've got a Democratic mayor. I mean, listen, chicago hasn't had a Republican mayor in over 100 years, 100 years, Right, um, so and and and again, a democratic governor, a democratic mayor. You know the district attorneys and all those like all of that. You know this is the result of decades and decades and decades of of just decay, um, and that.

Speaker 3: 29:06

I hate to say this, but I think Seattle falling apart, portland falling apart, san Francisco falling apart, which they are, as we've, we've talked about on the show, um, is not enough. One of our top five major metro areas is really going to have to collapse for there to be the backlash against local politics, in other words, mayoral politics, to fix this. New York was in the 70s was a mess, right, and then you know you had Giuliani and right, some things changed and that was a great. But people have forgotten, right, people, people have forgotten how bad that was and the pendulum swing to better and now they're swinging back the other direction and I think you need to see that again.

Speaker 3: 29:48

In a place like Chicago or Los Angeles and you know to go back to New York again, for that matter, to for people to take this seriously, you know to, or back in New York again, for that matter, to for people to take this seriously, but there's no exit strategy for the National Guard right now. So I'm, I'm I'm dismayed that this is. People are settling into this. I don't like it. We should remain uncomfortable and truthfully demand out of the White House, who implemented this, to say okay, like you said, what's the next step, what's next right, where do we go from here?

Speaker 3: 30:16

We can't sit back and say, okay, everything's cool. We're selling hot dogs on the street again. That's great, right? The National Guard's got to go home at some point. Like this can't be permanent, so we got to figure that piece out before you know, before it becomes permanent, and none of us none of us should want that.

Speaker 2: 30:31

Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, I want to move on to something I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd call it fun, but is it even funny? I mean it's. It's kind of funny in the sense that, wow, we are. We are, as a society, spending a lot of time talking about a chain, restaurant, logo, chain change, Like we are spending a lot of time and energy invested in this and I, I didn't, honestly, I didn't have a whole heck of a lot to say about it.

Speaker 2: 31:04

So I wasn't saying anything about this, clay, for I don't know, the first several days, if not longer, of this whole saga, Frankly, because I didn't care and I just didn't. I mean, like I feel a little bad, you know, seeing how emotional people got over the whole thing. I got, as you know, Clay, I got an email from somebody. Well, let me backtrack just a tiny bit here. I was perusing, which I don't often do and I do very short amounts of it. I was perusing, which I don't often do and I do very short amounts of it. I was perusing the comments section of one of my videos and someone had kind of had nothing to do with Cracker Barrel or anything like that, and somebody had made the comment that, Elsa, I haven't heard you say anything about Cracker Barrel yet. I'm curious what your opinion is. I'm paraphrasing, but that was like the gist of it and I was like somebody wants my opinion on Cracker Barrel. I mean, who am I? I'm losing my headphones here. You know, who am I to disappoint somebody who wants my opinion that I just love to give. So I, you know, I gave the whole thing a little bit of thought and I kind of just evaluate my thoughts and opinions on this and I was like, okay, so let's see, I have been to Cracker Barrel maybe three or four times in my life.

Speaker 2: 32:26

My opinion is that you know, it's cute and quaint and like, this is the gist of what I posted. Basically, you know it was cute and quaint. The food was kind of just average. You know it's like stuff that's like pre-made and heated up, I think. You know. I'm sorry Cracker Barrel if that's not correct, but that's kind of how it seemed. I don't know, Maybe it is made fresh, I don't know. Sorry, guys, because people, as you're going to find out, get very emotional about this. As you're going to find out, get very emotional about this.

Speaker 2: 32:58

I thought the times that I've been there that I can recall the staff was very nice and friendly. I personally thought the little store to the side of the place was, you know, overpriced. But cute stuff in there it's just not stuff that I would buy, but it was a pretty underwhelming impression. I'm not really knocking it, but I'm also not like raving about it either. It's just whatever to me. They are not going to, they don't vote for me anymore, they don't endorse me and they don't like me and they're mad at me and they're getting. They're not going to follow me anymore because of the terrible things that I said about Cracker Barrel, which is like an institution and, you know, an iconic, like I don't know.

Speaker 2: 33:46

My opinion first of all, was that valuable? I will be more careful. I will be so much more careful with the weight of my words going forward. Like it was the most bizarre thing to me and you know I bring it on myself by by making my email address accessible to people. It was kind of meant as a listen. This is business, this is my job. This is my business. This is what I do for a living. I know that there are people in the world that do not consider what I do and what you do, a job that it's not real work. I'm sorry to disappoint you and to anger you further, but it is actually a job. I spend many hours a day every week doing this stuff.

Speaker 3: 34:41

But that's from my emails there that was Mr Elliot which we posted on social media. No, I still think we should have on the show.

Speaker 2: 34:47

Come on the show.

Speaker 3: 34:49

Yeah, but so, interestingly enough, folks, so we're this. We haven't done this yet. This is oddly Thursday morning, thursday morning, so you're going to see this tonight. This is oddly Thursday morning, thursday morning, so you're going to see this tonight, but Thursday morning we're recording this. I did in our normal rhythm with Elsa. I sent a list of topics on Monday and of course, cracker Barrel was one of the top two or three on the list. It was even before the Minnesota incident yesterday, which we added this morning, by the way, but you know Cracker Barrel was on there and from the time that I sent that on Monday to this morning, thursday, this was all flip dope, right.

Speaker 3: 35:19

Cracker Barrel has reverted. They are going back to their old logo. I don't know if they're going to. You know they had a handful of restaurants that had been converted from this old like seery, you know antique crap hanging on the walls. That was their vibe. It always was, yeah, but they, you know know, they kind of whitewashed it a little bit. They went to a lighter color, gray, and some other things, and you know. So I don't know if they're going to flip those restaurants back or not, but they are going back to the old um logo.

Speaker 3: 35:44

But I read a thing yesterday and this was about an investor, um, and and I'm not going to try and remember his name I do know that he is a um, high, high end investor, uh, investor in Cracker Barrel. I know that he owns some other things, the guy's a high money guy. But in 2024, this CEO, who's responsible for all this, came out and sent a letter to the shareholders and was like hey, these are all the things that we're going to do, and a lot of it was. You know, make friends with the LGBTQ community. You know, make Cracker Barrel a safe space, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3: 36:15

And he like threw a conniption thing. He was like this is crap, this has nothing to do with our business, this has nothing to do with our business model, this is not the targeted audience, you know, and all this other stuff. And he told he wrote some like either seven or 11 page letter in response to her you know state of the company. He warned everybody a year ago that this was going to be a disaster. Sure enough, and sure enough, it rolls around and it happens. And then there's been this quick turnaround on, you know, on, basically because of the you know the outcry from the the customers on. They don't like this. And listen, I get it. You know, if you're a, I like the food. It and listen, I get it. You know, if you're a, I like the food. It's very like everything's covered in gravy, which.

Speaker 3: 36:58

I'm a huge fan of, but I had a good friend of mine that I used to work with, who was a manager, managed a Cracker Barrel and they have a great. Cracker Barrel is actually a lot of companies model their manager development program after Cracker Barrel because it is very thorough, it's very intense and they take it very, very seriously. So there's some great business practices in Cracker Barrel. You know the store's cool. You know whatever Like if you're a Gen Xer, like every candy from when you were a kid is in there, which is kind of awesome.

Speaker 2: 37:37

But yes, the other stuff you can get everything in there, from like beard balm to, like you know, an apron with a tractor on it right and everything.

Speaker 3: 37:40

Yeah, it's cute stuff in there.

Speaker 2: 37:41

It's maybe, maybe because I'm not a famous person.

Speaker 3: 37:42

Yeah, yeah, this was a horrible business decision for that audience. What they should have done was concentrate on the other pillars in her letter, which were higher quality customer service, higher quality food you know a better kind of, you know environment or company culture, and they should have put their effort into that instead of the rebranding and everything else. And clearly that part of it is backfired and, after losing hundreds of millions of dollars in stock value and revenue, they're getting killed and and so what? What people don't realize, why this money guy flipped out a year ago was because cracker barrels revenue over an 11 year span. Like was it added a billion dollars in revenue but their profit decreased. Like they were still profitable but their profit went from. They were still profitable but their profit went from.

Speaker 3: 38:38

You know, let's just call it like it went from maybe 175 million to you know like 142 million, even though their revenue, their intake, went up by a billion dollars. They're, you know they're yeah, it's crazy. So he was like this is not fixing the problem. We have a problem. This is not fixing the problem. We have a problem. This is not fixing the problem. And you know she proceeded forward and the question is is how long until she resigns or is fired, now that they have said, hey, we're going backwards on this, we're going back the old man in the barrel, et cetera. So keep your eyes on Cracker Barrel, folks.

Speaker 2: 39:11

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's that whole. You know, woke mind virus Like you know, woke mind virus.

Speaker 2: 39:15

Like you know, this is, this is what happens. Like you know, you hire somebody who is incapable of reading the room and think that they're going to fix the problem. You can't even. You don't even, you should never even been hired. Like question number one do you understand our demographic? Like here's, like, let me, let me write your questionnaire for your, your prospective CEOs. Do you understand our demographic?

Speaker 2: 39:49

Do you know who, since I was, you know, reprimanded so aggressively for my opinions there, you know, I have been reading a little, a little bit more and it's actually very, very charming the, the there were people who put in the comments section were so gracious to put in the comments section their stories of their experiences in Cracker Barrel and what Cracker Barrel actually meant to them and means to them, and it's. It was actually very sweet and very touching that, um, cracker, like there were a lot of truckers that came in and said, listen, that is where I would go, uh, you know, on those long halls, um, that's where I would stop for my meals and it was like a little slice of home. It felt like home cooking and atmosphere and it made me feel better and it made me feel good and that like touched my heart.

Speaker 2: 40:42

I'm like, oh, now I feel really bad about being kind of flip about this and like whatever, I didn't know. So I do apologize again, like this time more genuinely, that, Listen, I did not know the effect. I'm not from the South. I know Cracker Barrel just came to my area. Well, it's probably been around for like a decade or more, but I remember when it came to our area and I was like what the heck is Cracker Barrel? I didn't even know. So forgive me for my ignorance, guys. But yes, but it's okay. It's technically okay that I don't know. I don't work for Cracker Barrel, I'm not making decisions on their stuff and things, which you should all be thankful for. But yeah, if you want to rebrand, if you want to update that logo, just like keep the essence of it and just make it a little newer looking. You know, I don't know, keep I think it's Uncle Herschel, I think is the guy, the guy in the barrel.

Speaker 3: 41:30

I think you're right, yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:31

Yep, you know, keep him, keep the barrel, keep everything, just brighten it up a little bit. You know, keep him in his overalls. Don't even change the overalls, but just refresh.

Speaker 3: 41:40

Yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing. It's a business decision and I get, rebranding is what it is and companies need to go through that. And actually I give Cracker Barrel, the corporation, whoever it is some props, because they were a lot quicker to respond and rebound than, say, anheuser-busch yeah Right, and some other companies who have suffered from the go broke Right, you know they heard loud and clear and they were like all right, ceasefire, we're not. It's been a horrible week, let's stop doing this. So good for them.

Speaker 2: 42:09

Right, and you know, and this is not in the thing that they and for several of the topics our first topic and and this one is, well, you know, the left will automatically go to, you know, a. This is trans hate, this is lgbtq hate, this is, you know, all the phobias that they, you know, blah, blah, blah phobia. Uh, no, it's not, it's, it's a love and an appreciation for traditional values. Uh, for, and you can do and be however you choose to be. I don't hate you for it. Um, in fact, I love you and I want the best for you and I want you to have your best life possible and all the love in the world, and I want your mental health to be great. So it's not about that. It's about you can like what you like, we can like what we like, and if Cracker Barrel has always appealed to a certain demographic, a certain crowd, so that's who you're focusing on those. Everybody else is, everybody's welcome, everybody is welcome, but this is the key audience for that.

Speaker 3: 43:06

So that's who goes there.

Speaker 2: 43:07

Yeah, that's who goes there you know, and it's not that nobody else is welcome there, but you attract who you attract. I mean, stop making it up. Everything has to be a thing, so exhausting Clay.

Speaker 1: 43:19

All right, all right, we spent a lot of time on Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 2: 43:21

We got to move on. Less fun. Again we're bringing it. We're like we're on a roller coaster today. With this right we're going back down. This is awful oh my goodness, awful awful this is.

Speaker 3: 43:33

You know, folks, this is a lot of things, um, but this is a direct result of you know, uh, the immigration policy, the previous administration. Okay, this individual came here, uh, indian, had a co-driver with them. For those of you, I'm sure everybody's tracking this by now. But you know, tractor trailer, long-haul truck driver made an illegal u-turn, crushed a a minivan with, killed a family of three and then immediately fled back to California. This happened in Florida. Right, caught, the guy brought him back to Florida, found out that illegal immigrants, found out that California illegally gave him a CDL. You know all of the things that you know, we knew and assumed was happening as a result of the poor immigration policy based on the last administration. This guy is it? So? And now we're turning it back. Right, the guy's going to get deported. I think.

Speaker 3: 44:27

I think that the state of California should be held somewhat responsible for issuing the illegal CDL to this guy. And and I am a fan, I know, I know people say we keep taking jobs away from non-English speakers, but if you can't know and understand and read the rules of the road in the United States, then you shouldn't be driving. This is not about your ability to speak English. It's about your ability to know and understand the rules associated where you can risk the lives of, say, a family of three and a frigging minivan. So you know President Trump and Secretary of Transportation Duffy, you know who's saying got to speak English to drive a truck?

Speaker 3: 45:06

Great, I think it should be that way. You know you can't drive around and other you would be surprised. But if you have never been to another country and tried to see what it's like to get a driver's license, even for a passenger car in another country, good luck. You actually, in Germany, you have to be able to read and write German because you have to be able to understand the right signs. It's all of those things that you know. People here in America are like oh, this is targeting illegal immigrants. Yeah, it is, but it's the safety fact.

Speaker 2: 45:35

Right, yeah, so you know, I think the overwhelming problem I think that we have in this society, in this country, is that we live in this and I'm being a you know, this is obviously a generalization when I say this we, when I say we, we live in this bubble where we are so grossly unaware of the policies and the rules in other countries and we think that these expectations are so insane. You know that we should have borders, that we should have these rules, that you should have to be able to speak English in order to get your driver's license, especially a CDL license, I mean any license really but you know, there's this perception that this is a cruel and unfair thing and un-American and and all of that, all of that. And I mean, like you said, to echo you, clay, look at every other country. These are matter of course, actions and rules and guidelines and laws that they have, and why should we not Like?

Speaker 3: 46:40

it's just bizarre to me Clay and listen, we're not folks, we're not talking out of both sides of our mouth. Because I said earlier, you know Jeff Seth. He's like hey, we, you know, europe's figured out how not to have mass shootings. Um, why can't we follow europe's you know example? And we both were like no, we're not europe, this is you know. And then we turn around we say yes, it's hard to get a driver's license in germany. You know, we should follow germany's example. I, I get it. It sounds a little two-faced, but but there is some practicality and some common sense that needs to be applied. And that's exactly what we're talking about. If you can't understand and read road signs and you can't read the manual and take the test that says you know, here's how to be safe on the roads, then you shouldn't be driving. And that's that's really the issue. And don't even get me started. I don't know if you saw this thing with this little girl defending her sister with a knife, who got arrested. Did you hear about this?

Speaker 2: 47:26

I did not. I did not.

Speaker 3: 47:27

Yeah, so I think Scotland. It's in the UK. A man stalking, filming two young girls 14-year-old, 12-year-old and you know, filming with his phone and kind of coming up to them and it was clearly an uncomfortable situation. The older sister, 14, pulled out her knife and said get away from my sister, Stop filming us and threaten the guy Right. You know who got arrested the 14-year-old girl, Of course, Because she was carrying a knife.

Speaker 2: 48:00

Right, un-freaking-real Right.

Speaker 3: 48:02

So that's not what we're talking about, folks, right, we're talking about some common sense. Read the driver's manual, be able to pass the test, read the road signs in English. And for those of you that say, well, why don't they just have the test in Spanish? Or why don't they just have the road signs aren't in Spanish, folks, the road signs are in English. Nor should we go back and redo everything in multiple languages. Not a thing. So the reason it's not in multiple languages to take the test is because the right signs are in English, they're always going to be in English and you have to be able to read.

Speaker 2: 48:30

English and, by the way it's, I mean you want to even simplify it even more. The majority of these signs are symbols. Like if you can't understand, if you don't know what those symbols mean, like you don't even know. Like, fine, you don't want to learn English? Ok, fine, not really, but you know, just go with me. Learn the symbols. Like how did this guy pass this test? How did he pass the test?

Speaker 3: 48:56

Like someone explain that garbage, if you, if well, he didn't pass the test. He got those license illegally, obviously, as we know now. But also if you've ever driven in the Middle East, I know this guy was Indian, as we know now. But also if you've ever driven in the Middle East, I know this guy was Indian. But you know Saudi Arabia, iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, like I've seen and been on those roads. And let me tell you something they don't follow. I would be surprised to have road rules, but they certainly don't follow. So that's a culture issue as well. But regardless, I'm on board with this Department of Transportation. You got to speak English to get a CDL vehicle drop truck.

Speaker 2: 49:30

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 49:30

Should be a way. That's the way it is.

Speaker 2: 49:32

Yeah, yeah, y'all can argue it all you want, but that's the fact. I don't care, I don't care, let's see. Okay, so this, this one.

Speaker 3: 49:41

I surprised you with this one, didn't I you?

Speaker 2: 49:42

did. I'm like I read it, you know, and I, what I do is I I like copy it and I put it into there, Like there's a whole process I go through and then I plug it in to do my research and I kind of just did it like on autopilot. You know just that initial process of it. And then I read it again. I'm like I'm sorry, wait what I'm, I'm what. Go ahead, clay, tell them what's going on.

Speaker 3: 50:05

Listen, this is going to this is also going to bleed into our next topic, so we'll just go one into the other. But this has to do with the war between Ukraine and Russia and really what you've got is Russian soldiers right, are paying each other. This isn't like shoot me in the foot so I don't get drafted. This is on the battlefield, shoot me so that it looks like I was wounded in combat and I get all the benefits that come after Right. So this is like out of the you know, out on the battlefield, one guy pay you know, preplanned pays a fellow soldier, however much it's a lot of money Right to shoot them in the course of, you know, a war so that they can get sent home and draw all the benefits of their VA, the Russian VA system which they have.

Speaker 3: 51:00

And this is a thing now like this is legitimately drawing enough attention that it's being reported globally. Like I can't fathom. This is like when you have a conscript army. This is what happens. So for all of you that are like we should institute the draft in the United States, this is the kind of stuff you get. So yeah, but again, now this bleeds into the next. So what did you think of this when you read this.

Speaker 2: 51:19

Well, I mean and apparently it's my standing reaction here I can't help but laugh. And I know it's not funny, guys. Oh it is funny. No, it's funny, thank you. Thank you. I know that I have a terrible sense of humor. I find terrible things funny. I've passed this terrible gene. Can I segue for one very quick? How we do it? I'm going to my grandchildren.

Speaker 2: 51:54

The two-year-old and the one-year-old were fighting over real estate on the chair with my daughter, with their mommy, and the two-year-old had won in the real estate game and the one-year-old was climbing he's like a little spider monkey and he was climbing up the chair. Essentially it's like one of those recliners. And the two-year-old kind of gave him a gentle nudge with her foot to help him off, to which he landed on his head. He's fine, guys, he's fine. But the two-year-old and I kid you, not the two-year-old watched this happen and went, laughed her ass off at him falling and I looked at my daughter and I said I'm so sorry she gets it from me. So that tells you. That tells you how rotten my humor is. So I'm sorry that I found this funny.

Speaker 2: 52:36

I feel better that you found it funny too. It's, you know I. There's layers to it Certainly that you're like, wow, that's, that's really. Where's the valor there? But you made such a great point on that Clay Things that I don't think about when it comes to this kind of stuff. That like this is what happens when you're basically forcing people to fight in a battle, in a war that they want no part of. They're going to try and find ways to get out of it. So I find it oddly brilliant on their part. So it's equal parts awful, hilarious, brilliant and a shame.

Speaker 1: 53:12

I think I covered it all right, All of those things.

Speaker 2: 53:17

Yeah, all right, so we can roll right into this guy right here.

Speaker 3: 53:22

You know, maybe you can take the lead. The short version on this is Zelensky has come out and said no matter what President Trump says, no matter what Putin says, he is the one who's going to decide when the fighting ends. And you know, folks, we've all been rooting for this. President Trump, especially, has said this from the campaign. He just wants the killing to stop. We all want the war to end.

Speaker 3: 53:38

You know, Americans have a skewed perspective on this, because for the last I don't know since the end of World War, I really we have stopped taking the loser's stuff. Like warfare changed in the 20th century, where it was like you win, you get the loser's stuff, you get their land, you get all their riches. We don't do that anymore. And Americans think that's how warfare goes, and it's not true. And so, really, the negotiating point that President Trump has been trying to make is that Ukraine's going to have to give something up for this to stop. That's just the way it's going to be. And oh, by the way, a century ago that's exactly what happened to warfare.

Speaker 3: 54:11

But Zelensky has said he is the one who's going to decide when the fighting stops. And let me tell you, folks, this guy has no vested interest in this war ending, because as soon as the war ends, Ukraine holds elections and he comes out of power, and that is the last thing that he wants, Right? So this is not ending anytime soon, as much as President Trump wants it to, and, truthfully, even President Putin, who's dealing with knuckleheads shooting each other to get VA benefits Right he knows this is going on Right, Like he's trying to deal with that stuff. As much as even he wants it to end, it's not going to happen because you know combat sweater monkey boy is is not going to allow that to happen, because he comes out of power when it does and the guy's a piece of trash. Stop making him a hero. He is far from it. He has nothing. He doesn't care about the Ukraine. He doesn't care about Ukrainian people. He's a failed comedian who somebody put in a position of power that he doesn't want to give up.

Speaker 2: 55:05

Yeah, he's just a. He's an actor playing a role and probably getting incredibly wealthy doing it.

Speaker 3: 55:11

Oh yeah, billions would be, billions would be.

Speaker 2: 55:14

You know that little tiny man is just stockpiling that cash like Midas, you know, yeah, it's crazy, it's so disappointing, Like I feel. Like you know, everybody sits around the table there, you know, and everybody's all ready to, you know, to sign away and just be done with this. And then you know, he's the guy in every office meeting that's like I just have a question and everybody know I'm, like, you know, downplaying it and everything. But at this point, like I it is my nature I have to. I got to find something to laugh about here with this. So, yeah, that he just sucks so bad I can't stand, Can't stand. What did you call him again? Monkey?

Speaker 3: 56:00

Combat sweater Monkey boy.

Speaker 2: 56:03

That's a. That's his new name. Name now forever. I'm even going to make a meme.

Speaker 1: 56:07

I'm going to make a meme of that.

Speaker 2: 56:10

Oh, okay, listen, we saved the best, the most important, epic breaking news. I need everybody to calm down, okay, calm down. But oh my God, taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are engaged. Yeah, I know, you could tell that I was not serious about caring. Listen, congratulations to them. I think it's lovely and wonderful. I, the most brilliantly branded couple on the planet, the billionaire pop star and the hunky I mean not to me but apparently to other people hunky football player guy, and their whirlwind, charming romance has culminated to the engagement of what appears to be the engagement of the century. Like. This is the biggest news. We have major mainstream platforms gushing over this, like, like, fangirling so hard and I have Did you hear about the college professor that had to stop class.

Speaker 3: 57:27

This was a man, a male college professor. The announcement came while they were in class. He had to stop class and he let everybody out. He was so emotionally overwhelmed. Oh my, this is insanity.

Speaker 2: 57:41

It is bonkers. And I mean, listen, I have zero Taylor Swift hate. I know people love to hate on her. I have teased and made light fun, not actually of her, really actually of her rabid fan base how they go like absolutely bonkers. If you even hint at saying something vaguely negative about her and I did once and they came for me, it was and it wasn't. It was more about not making. It had to be Elliot. Now I'm going to go back. I bet you it was Elliot.

Speaker 2: 58:11

He started the whole thing. It was like I think I made a video about basing your vote on what a celebrity says and I used her as the reference and I simply said maybe don't vote based on a girl, a girl whose all her songs are based on bad choices of men. You know, it was funny. It wasn't even originals. Other people said it. I just said it slightly differently. And they're like how dare you? They got all Greta Thunberg on me. Like how dare you Listen again, congratulations to them. You know, obviously this was huge. It is fascinating. So gq hailed the announcement as a pr coupe, so smooth. It wasn't just an engagement, it was the launching point for swift's upcoming album, the life of a showgirl, uh, and they, they called it a branding symphony sealed with a ring. And you said which I, which I didn't know that he has a clothing line, he has a clothing line.

Speaker 2: 59:09

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3: 59:10

Yes, he has a clothing line. I don't remember what it's, it's true, true colors, I think, and spelled stupidly like with a K, you know. And they're doing a collab with American Eagle Outfitters.

Speaker 2: 59:25

Very interesting actually.

Speaker 3: 59:26

Very interesting right.

Speaker 2: 59:27

That's fascinating to me Of all of this. That's probably the most interesting thing of it.

Speaker 3: 59:32

That dude is about to sign a prenup that's about as thick as the Yellow Pages. He is clearly fodder for the next album, because we all know how she operates. Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 59:43

I wonder if everybody's going to love this album as much, because I would imagine all the songs they won't even listen to it.

Speaker 3: 59:49

They won't even listen to it.

Speaker 2: 59:50

no more, it's going to go right to number one, double triple platinum. You know, whatever the highest thing is, listen, you know I watched her years ago. I haven't watched any of the network shows in many, many years but I used to watch the Voice. That's the one I used to watch and she was and I remember this very distinctly because I was very impressed and I didn't have really an opinion of her before. I liked her well enough, whatever but she was like a guest mentor or something like that. I forget exactly what they call them, but a guest mentor for the contestants. And the advice and critiquing that she was giving these young wannabe stars, singers, was kind of amazing. Like she's actually pretty brilliant in her lane, like she is exceptionally smart in what she does. I don't know about any other aspect of it. I don't know anything about her Listen you don't get to be a billionaire.

Speaker 3: 1:00:45

You don't Right Like aspect of it. I don't know anything about her. Listen, you don't get to be a billionaire. You don't Right Like she is a business billionaire. She's not just a talented billionaire, she is a business billionaire.

Speaker 2: 1:00:53

That girl is not dumb, no, I think she is musically brilliant in knowing what sells, what works. So I give her tremendous props and credit, and for that, and she's marrying a big, dumb animal. A big dumb animal. Good on her. Good on her for you know feeding the animals. Good girl for.

Speaker 3: 1:01:17

Listen, folks. I'm calling. You're hearing it here first. I'm making one of my predictions. Super Bowl halftime show Taylor Swift. You're hearing it here first. It's coming.

Speaker 2: 1:01:26

I feel like it's got to be. How could it not be? How could it not?

Speaker 3: 1:01:29

Oh, by the way, they're the new Harry and Meghan.

Speaker 2: 1:01:34

Yes, yes, don't tell.

Speaker 3: 1:01:36

This is the biggest engagement since Harry and Meghan, and the wedding will be that large, like it will be a media event. Oh my goodness. Yes, large, it will be a media event. Oh my goodness, you can see that coming as well.

Speaker 2: 1:01:48

I can honestly tell you that I will not watch it, but I will watch all the clips on TikTok or wherever.

Speaker 3: 1:01:54

I bet they televised it.

Speaker 2: 1:01:56

No doubt You're not going to miss that opportunity. It makes sense, Smart girl, they will not miss that opportunity at all. Again, I'm not knocking it. Good on you, Listen. Use the opportunities that are put in your path or that you've created for yourself.

Speaker 1: 1:02:09

Go girl go, you know yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:11

That's it Right. I mean, that's all we got. That was. That was really good we. I think we had a really nice balance. I'm like commending us, I'm critiquing our, critiquing our performance. I think we did a marvelous job Of navigating the roller coaster.

Speaker 3: 1:02:24

Knocked the rust off after two weeks of rest and we're back at it, folks, we're back again.

Speaker 2: 1:02:30

Yeah, we came back fresh. We are super excited to be back with you guys. We missed you. We missed each other. This is like our thing. This is what we do every week. We talk about the stuff and things and, yeah, and Clay, you know, teaches me things that I didn't know before and gives me a different perspective, and I love it, and I teach Clay all about Taylor Swift and the importance of her life, and it's a very good balance that we have. But, yeah, so, guys, please jump in the comments section. We'd love to hear from you, love to chat with you in there and see what you think about everything. You know, even when you don't like it, like Elliot, you know it's all good.

Speaker 3: 1:03:07

It's all good. Clay, you want to close them out? Hey, folks, happy to be back and we're right back in it. Things don't slow down, even in the two weeks we were gone and we appreciate you guys coming on and joining us and, like Elsa said, jump in the comments section, tell us that we're crazy or that you love us, we don't care which. And until next week for me, keep moving, keep shooting.

Speaker 1: 1:03:23

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